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Mozilla Releases Firefox 1.0 RC1
islandroots writes "Mozilla has finally posted the first Firefox 1.0 release candidate on their FTP servers. This could very well be the last official release of Firefox before the big 1.0 launch date on November 9th. Mozilla FTP Servers"
How different is this from my Preview Release? Should I download it? Or just wait until Nov 9th?
I've used each version of Firefox (or whatever their earlier names were) since 0.7. I am on PR1 now, or whatever the version label is. Oddly, I feel compelled to wait and not try this release candidate. I know the date of the planned 1.0 release and for some reason knowing that has me thinking it's perfectly ok to wait until then.
I just installed 1.0PR and got everything just the way I wanted it, including a recalcitrant Java terminal emulator working. Ah, well, price of progress, and off I go to do it all again!
One CPU cycle wasted on digital restrictions management is ONE TOO MANY.
Although it's nice to have an announcement on slash, it would also be nice to have a pointer IN the article to a changelog which would give me reasons to upgrade from "Pre-Release" to "Release Candidate"
Why?
See http://www.moox.ws/tech/mozilla/
It's firefox and Thunderbird compiled specifically for processor architectures. (they have slightly better performance than normal Firefox)
Thing is, this is a GOOD THING (TM). The Mozilla foundation is trying to weed out the bugs now, the security bug hunting contest, etc should ring a bell . They fixed more than 250 bugs, blocking the 1.0final. Its better to make things work now, than to break things later. Anyway the NYT ad is about FF 1.0 FINAL, which should not have any serious security problems (look at the Burning Edge for bugfixes. There are other reasons that why IE shouldnt be compared to FF aswell, including M$ policy about what is considered a "vulnerability" and a "security issue" and that IE is not actively developed now for four(!!!) years. Its quite bad that there are serious bugs in IE at all(!!), remember they had four years to weed those out. Just my $0.05 :)
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My company portal uses SVG graphics and no matter what I do I cannot get Firefox/Mozilla to view them.
Sort of makes it useless for me on a coorprate level and that makes me very sad.
Things Firefox does differently or does not have that Mozilla does (from my experience): * Bookmarking groups of tabs and then opening them all with a single click - Mozilla yes, Firefox no. * Opening new blank tabs with a button - Mozilla yes, Firefox no. To me these are features I use very often and that I can't use in Firefox. I hope they continue Mozilla. Thanks for listening.
I upgraded just now (win32), and now my home button doesn't work. It totally ignores it. When I middle click on the home button, it _DOES_ open home in a new tab. This is really odd.
Has anyone else had this problem?
Being a longtime user of MozSuite, I've often wondered what the hype is about FF. I don't care about the mail and IRC clients etc, just the browser.
There's some stuff in MozSuite that I have missed in FF:
- Ctrl-click to open in new tab (no middle mouse button on my touchpad)
- "Open URL" box (I have location-bar-o-phobia, an irrational fear of entering URLs through the location bar)
- A proper window icon (yeah, I know I can put one in myself, but most novice users will find themselves staring at the frelling MS Windows logo!)
And some good stuff in FF:- Displaying the server name in the context menu when blocking images.
- Ability to set a standard download folder.
Most of that is pretty trivial. Startup time isn't bad for either browser. (I don't use the MozSuite preloading option) and I can't say either one is noticeably faster than the other in use.Of course, switching from IE to FF or MozSuite is a no-brainer, but what would convince a MozSuite user to switch to FF? Personally, I don't see the need and think it's rather sad that all the users' and developers' attention seems to go to FF.
I think the problem is that slashdot is using non standard code. But that does constantly amaze me that one of the main supporters of mozilla (and its brothern all of which render the same) doesn't render properly in mozilla. WHATS UP WITH THAT?! :)
Since I am not a coder, does anyone know if there will be a 64-bit build of Firefox? I'd like to use it on my 64-bit XP Beta machine.
Viv
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there have been _MORE_ vulnerabilities in Firefox than IE in the last six months!
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Whether thats true or not is open but; two points -
1) firefox hasnt officially released to the public yet its close Thats what the RC1 (release candidate) every one that is using firefox right now is a potential tester/bug reporter; if you find a problem with Firefox and you are a good citizen you should let them know via the bug tracking system.
2) The fact that you are seeing all these bugs being found should inspire confidence that the firefox team and testers are doing a good job in weeding them out.
When Firefox is officially released - after the RC stage. Then you can start getting worried about people finding bugs. Its enevitable that will happen but by the looks of things they are doing a damn good job of getting them out now, so when Firefox 1.0 Final comes out you should be in good hands.
Nick
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Refusing to use potentially incompatible components is the most user-friendly solution.
It also encourages users to stick with old versions with known security holes because they work with an old extension that hasn't since been updated.
Maybe make a Firefox/Mozilla SDK for sites that are IE-only Firefox friendly? that should help propagation.
I wrote a perl script called slashdotgrab.pl; feed it the link from the "Read More" page and it will chase through all pages, outputting a single html page consisting of all comments on the topic, in chronological then nested format. It also creates a list of all comments downloaded for that topic, so when you run it again, the comments downloaded the previous time (which you have presumably now read) are marked as having been read (they are greyed out).
It's still a little rough around the edges (mainly through lack of optimisation, really) but works very well and I can't read slashdot without it now. At some point, I may add threshold support, and make comments below your threshold initially collapsed until you clip on a javascript expand button.
If anyone's interested, I'll try posting it somewhere, but live in fear of being slashdot'd!
Cheers,
Simon
And mosschops responded Unfortunately, backwards compatability can't always be guaranteed, particularly in applications under rapid development like Firefox.
Both true, but unrelated. I can't really expect beta software to be backward compatible from release to release. I do expect released software to be backward compatible, and hopefuly FF will figure this out from 1.0 on.
As for the about:config stuff, couldn't agree more. It's OK for truly obscure stuff to be buried in there, but it's an interface that shouldn't be required for the vast majority of users. Expose those things in a proper configuration screen!
I've been using FF for a while now and my biggest gripe is around the tabbed browsing. Tabbed browsing is a wonderful thing, but FF doesn't take true advantage of it without the tabbed browsing extension. And if extensions break when you upgrade the browser, that's a drag. I'll certainly withhold judgement on FF until after the formal 1.0 release, which I'm hoping is an improvement over the PR. If it's not I'll stick with Mozilla, but I fear that'll become a backwater.
Morally? Why would we even care about the morals of either situation? I was simple describing an event that took place.
It's called history for a reason and the facts speak for themselves.
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I've always longed for the option to have previously read comments either grayed out or hidden. As it is, I mainly read articles days after they're posted; if I read them when they're fresh, it's too tedious to read through again to see what was added later. So yes, one vote of interest.
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