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Mozilla Releases Firefox 1.0 RC1
islandroots writes "Mozilla has finally posted the first Firefox 1.0 release candidate on their FTP servers. This could very well be the last official release of Firefox before the big 1.0 launch date on November 9th. Mozilla FTP Servers"
this dodgy website. I am using 1.0 RC1 at the moment and it often renders this site very badly, hiding the text in negative-X land. Perhaps I should have stuck to internet explorer, which this site is obviously designed for.
Why not play Halo2 at one of the launch parties?
http://www.openforce.at/mozparty2/
Extensions
Are difficult to install for my family, who simply don't understand or trust the process.
Often incompatible with latest releases, preventing me from upgrading for months
Incomaptible with each other
Can cause problems EVEN if deemed "compatible", and often even uninstall fo extension does nothing! Have to reinstall fire*! This is my biggest annoyance, Adblock broke the downloading progress bar, then tabbrowser extensions ruined my cookies settings. All too often I feel like the extensions are like a house of cards piled up, and I'm hesitatant to even install a new theme in case they all fall over and I have to install them all over again, fingers crossed.
Really, the whole extensions system is a mass of incompatabilities, conflicting requirements, errors and security dubious sources. I'd prefer any bloat to that!
Ask yourself these 2 questions about FF and then IE...
How many times have you heard (directly) of someone's machine being infested with 'sploits and spyware through that browser?
How many times have YOU found something slightly suspicious on your machine due to that browser?
Which browser came out as "less secure"?
Security flaws are One Thing, actual in-use live exploits of vulnerabilities are Quite Another.
Plus;
get FF backdoored, browser fucked.
get IE backdoored, COMPUTER fucked.
In a nutshell, one is worried that the UMO (update.mozilla.org) staff does not have the resources to properly scan all extensions and extension updates for malicious code. And even if you do check the extension when submitted, the author may add an update later with malicious code, and then Firefox installations all over the world may get infected.
Currently, they may be able to handle the task, but if Firefox manages to gain even more popularity, one can probably expect even more submitted extensions, and with a larger user base, it becomes a tempting target for crackers.
Fortunately, the discussion in the MozillaZine forums seems to result in a lot of nice ideas about how one can handle this, but it might still be something one needs to keep in mind.
It would be sad if Firefox was hit by security problems with extensions similar to how ActiveX has been a problem in Internet Explorer.
Perhaps Firefox's growing popularity will lead to more donations, of which some money can be used to hire staff to really make sure that UMO is not used as a tool to spread malware?
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At least this is a better way to catch incompatabilities. *cough* SP2 *cough*
just my 2 bytes
That's funny. Do you remember that in beginning of XIX century french virtually owned the whole Europe (that Napoleon guy was kinda cool). As for WWII - they did not loose their territories, lost fewer people than others, preserved their culture. How is that stupid?
I only have one extension. The one that came with it, the "DOM Inspector".
Firefox still works perfectly for me. It's not useless at all.
"It is better to risk sparing a guilty person than to condemn an innocent one." - Voltaire
What about those potential vulnerabilities discovered by Michael Zalewski ? Are they fixed ?
Thats something very important IMHO.
Each one of them is one potential exploit waiting some malicious hacker.
I believe all of them should be fixed before the 1.0 release, which should be considered stable, and doesnt have the benefit of the "pre-1.0" excuse.
"The way we can tell it's C# instead of Haskell is because it's nine lines instead of two." -- wadler
How about the ability to sort bookmarks alphabetically? The ability to make the browser popup ALT attributes for images? The ability to copy images directly into the clipboard? The ability to switch user-agent on the fly? The ability to download with software other than the browser?
There are a ton of extensions I use. How can you proclaim a browser's strength as its extensibility, and then have this 'don't use extensions' nonsense every time you upgrade version?
== Jez ==
Do you miss Firefox? Try Pale Moon.
First, I am an American.
if the other Allies hadn't "rescued" France during WWII, they most certainly would have lost everything.
You know, there was this little thing called the revolutionary war, and if the French hadn't "rescued" us we'd all be eating fish & chips and biscuits.
Get some perspective, and a bit of an education before you blurt out lines you've heard other idiots use.
"Oh, you hate your job? There's a support group for that, it's called everyone, they meet at the bar."
How about making the browser more user-friendly and not requiring archaic commands in about:config?
Unfortunately, backwards compatability can't always be guaranteed, particularly in applications under rapid development like Firefox.
Refusing to use potentially incompatible components is the most user-friendly solution. I'd rather it did that than misbehave and potentially crash! about:config is not meant for the average user, but as a handy direct approach for power users (makes a change from editing config files, like I do in Opera).
I do still hope that things settle enough after 1.0 that extensions won't be invalidated on every minor update...
I for one will be trying hard to IGNORE the fact that it's 9/11 *AGAIN*. FYI, no I'm not a terrorist, yes I have a heart... but for GOD'S SAKE...it's been years...and if we really wanted to mourn we should also mourn for the thousands of innocent Iraqi's that have been killed because of W.
A.A
Your mind is like a parachute. It works best when it's been opened.
You mean they where too much cowards not to buy into Bush's lies about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?
--When routine upgrades break things, they are going to label it a piece of shit and never use it again.--
You sir MUST be new to computers. Mosey over to microsoft.com and see just how many fixes there are for their pos SP's that BREAK ALL KINDS OF SHIT. Oh, and last I checked....lots of people have labeled Windows a "Piece of shit" and they use it all the time.
Your mind is like a parachute. It works best when it's been opened.
We may not imagine how our lives could be more frustrating and complex—but Congress can. – Cullen Hightower
The point, unless I am mistaken, is to get people to switch away from IE. Does IE have a built in mail reader, irc client, calendar app? No. It's a browser vs browser war. Granted, there are mail readers (OE), etc, but those aren't what the Mozilla/Firefox guys are fighting against.
Glen
Track your fuel economy
I was a big user of Netscape Navigator's web browser and email clients, but switched over to Mozilla when it went gold. I've tried Firefox a few times, but it doesn't have a mail client and therefore doesn't fulfill my needs. How is Thunderbird? I don't really want to change over to a pre-1.0 release unless someone can convince me that it is prety darn stable and feature-complete.
dont change this. its better to do it one by one, or get new versions.
// do pre 1.0 code // do post 1.0 code
there WILL be extensions with a minimum "version" of 1.0, and this hack will break those extensions.
or if you have an extention that does:
if (application.extensions.version 1.0)
else
you will end up in big trouble.
Have a nice day!
I use v0.9.3 of firefox on one machine and the 1.0rc on my other machine.both the machines have exactly the same config, the are both hp ,same models bought on the same day.But the one with 0.9.3 performs really well.The new version keeps hanging n crashing after a few hours of use n abuse.
have you guys experience a decrease in speed of the later version?
Lord of the Binges.
"Firefox has been Beta, and still is."
RC stands for release candidate, right? This is supposed to mean that it isn't in beta, most of its bugs are fixed, and they are doing final tests to make sure everything works. One of the RC releases will end up as the final release, right?
Shouldn't the release candidates have consistency?
Steve Cohen
Then don't try to push beta software down my throat. Don't start this campaign to get 1 million downloads for a preview release. I bet no one told their friends & family that when they download Firefox, they were downloading beta software. Oh yeah, and don't bitch when companies aren't adopting Firefox. Save all this for the 1.0 release.
get IE backdoored, COMPUTER fucked.
Well... shell and (mostly) internet connection.
If FF has a bug that allows execution of arbitrary binary code, your computer is fucked. (or at least that user account and those of all open windows) Same for IE, but without the "if".
Weighing in at a svelte 25 megabytes and launching (on a 1ghz G4) in a mere 20 seconds, Firefox is perhaps less useful for Mac users. Safari launches in a fraction of the time weighs a lot less.
Isn't there some way to trim it back? I want to like it. I use it exclusively on the PCs in my life, but I can't put up with its excessive bloat on my iBook.
Slashdot doesn't care. Post your problems on Bugzilla instead. More effective, too.
I love how the US picks on france's lack of courage, and this is from a country that put off entering the war until they were finally attacked on their own soil.
Then again, I'm just a troll.
-Derek
Treat me like a marketing stat, and I'll treat your movie like a series of ones and zeros
Why would Slashdot users, or people who dislikes IE and Microsoft, have an XBox?
Yeesh... the one thing from keeping me from using Firefox as my promary browser...
All I want to do is open a link in the background when middle clicked:
Firefox on every platform but OSX? YES
Opera on OSX? YES
Safari? YES
Even goddamn Mozilla under X on OSX? YES
Firefox on OSX? NO
Still lovin it but WTF
I browse at +5 Flamebait- moderation for all or moderation for none.
No, their soma goes by the name of fox news, msbc, talk radio, etc.
In the new america, facts and history and decadent excesses of the reality based community. The faith based community has no need for such things.
Hopefully not someone from the USA, a country whose major culinary exports are tasteless piss beer, burgers and a number of carbonated soft drinks.
There is no guarantee that a Release Candidate will be compatible with the previous testing version, only with future RC's in the same tree.
We may not imagine how our lives could be more frustrating and complex—but Congress can. – Cullen Hightower
FF runs as the local user, which for windows 99.9% of the time is in the administrator group, discounting work computers with strict domain settings. That means FF fucked, computer fucked.