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SuSE Linux 9.2 Professional Released

InnerPhalanx writes "Today, SuSE 9.2 Professional Edition has been released. SuSE writes: 'It combines a fast, secure operating system and more than 1,000 popular open source applications. It is the first complete Linux package to harness both the improved Linux kernel 2.6 and the recently enhanced GNOME 2.6 and KDE 3.3 user desktop environments. Ideal for Linux enthusiasts and developers, SUSE LINUX Professional 9.2 improves support for mobile users and delivers a host of essential tools.' More information at the SuSE website. The price is $89.95. The update version is $59.95. A live DVD image is also available on the SuSE website, for use by DVD. Have fun, SuSE Pro users!" Reader tannhaus submits an early review.

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  1. The Linux Mirror Project... by tcopeland · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...is hosting BitTorrents of the SuSE 9.2 LiveCDs here. 1.3 TB transferred on the DVD so far!

  2. Update version at Amazon for $55 free shipping by UnderAttack · · Score: 4, Informative

    I wasn't able to find the update version at Suse.com. However, it looks like Amazon.com got it (with free 'super saver' shipping):

    Suse Linux Professional 9.2 Upgrade Strong Encryption 128 Bit

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    1. Re:Update version at Amazon for $55 free shipping by purplebear · · Score: 2, Informative

      I thought it was just early when I received an e-mail yesterday stating it had been released and pointing me to the SuSE store. They only show 9.1.
      Since it still only shows 9.1, it looks like someone at Digital River is slacking.

      Also notice that Amazon says you get a $35 discount. The show the retail price of the full version for the upgrade, then show the actual price of the upgrade as their discounted price.

  3. Re:Question by purplebear · · Score: 3, Informative

    Updates for each version of SuSE have always been in separate repositories. If you want to stick to standard packages, you'll have to upgrade.

  4. They changed name by RPoet · · Score: 1, Informative

    The distro is called SUSE, not SuSE. It happened like a year ago, you'd think people catch up :)

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  5. Re:Gnome 2.6? by destiney · · Score: 3, Informative


    The review (that you didn't read) clearly states that since Gnome 2.8 was only released in September that it was not included due to time constraints.

  6. try for yourself - download here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    ed2k://|file|suse-linux-professional-9.2-cd-dvd-wi th-md5sum-informations.txt|3580|B7D3B78022BA0F7E10 F78A622830F804|h=TA4EN5LDDZI5JCR2F3EGGGHTZBU73PJ2| /
    ed2k://|file|novell-suse-linux-professional-9.2 -x8 6-i386-cd1-of-cd5.iso|680470528|529BB31D4D3C0B1726 D001E49B55CEC2|h=VCYUWEDDDQT3M3YPOXZE5PUFUVLQKQNO| /
    ed2k://|file|novell-suse-linux-professional-9.2 -x8 6-i386-cd2-of-cd5.iso|680206336|7B8BC4989E2D3C19FC F8BDB8E1BC1EEE|h=DQTZ6T3IDRSTGACOWVTMTEUZCOQHPYTW| /
    ed2k://|file|novell-suse-linux-professional-9.2 -x8 6-i386-cd3-of-cd5.iso|682151936|C2AF5B0865DF1D632D 71208D1E26A54B|h=LU5HW7B32HORTATL72EIR3EBTTOXBPTH| /
    ed2k://|file|novell-suse-linux-professional-9.2 -x8 6-i386-cd4-of-cd5.iso|679241728|8B56EE175E45D961E1 658B3E9826C75D|h=7ZEDZ73R5GIM5IKBH6IHKS4WJZIR7PUO| /
    ed2k://|file|novell-suse-linux-professional-9.2 -x8 6-i386-cd5-of-cd5.iso|677640192|F0B9753272D5CCBC01 4CF0E851938B13|h=OGBF5MBDJQDDWK7SDNKPTM4WJ57UIGZX| /
    ed2k://|file|novell-suse-linux-professional-9.2 -co mplete-emule-hashes.txt|55722|CBA840924ADE8EF87E8C BB9D9F58F653|h=IGCCD6WRRUXTZ6HEWQMWD4XCNKFJTRBO|/

    beware of the slashdot spaces.

    also be sure to try out the suse livecd/livedvd from some of the mirrors:

    http://www.suse.com/us/private/download/ftp/live_e val_int.html

  7. Re:How about a laptop by tty21 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've loaded the Suse release 8.1 pro on Dell laptops - no issues other than the panel display wasn't detected the xfconfig for the neomagic - lots of web support for it. If you're wondering about the Dell website not listing Linux, call them direct and if the sales drone can't help, have them escalate. I find you can usually get what you want by whining and snivelling.

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  8. great for laptops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have been running it since RC3, and they have really focused on laptops in this release. It installed smoothly on my HP nc6000, and everything works - including build-in bluetooth and wireless.

    Nice job SuSE developers!

    1. Re:great for laptops by Lord_Raptor · · Score: 2, Informative

      Friend at work had a new Sony Vaio, and the SUSE distro was the only one of the 4 tried that would support the (fairly) new hardware out of the box.

  9. no personal any more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    there is no more personal build for 9.2 and above.

    but u can try the live dvd media

    http://www.suse.com/us/private/download/ftp/live_e val_int.html

  10. it helps sometimes... by Run4yourlives · · Score: 1, Informative

    to read the entire sentence.

  11. Suse Linux by digitaltraveller · · Score: 3, Informative

    Do the freely downloadable ISO images contain Suse's OpenExchange mail/groupware server?

    The other ones seem to lack a bit of pizazz. The two major competitors seem to be the
    BillWorkgroup (as in Gates) server and the unencumbered Netline version of OpenExchange which IIRC is derived from the Suse OPX codebase.

    Everything else I looked at is crap. I checked out Communigate Pro (a commercial product) and though it looked mostly professional, it had a bunch of features that simply weren't available in Outlook. I'd consider tolerating that from a free software project but not a proprietary offering.

  12. Re:What the hell? by scribblej · · Score: 2, Informative

    Depends on the time of day. I'm afraid you missed my point. If you must pay for access to the software, then that's a barrier to many *other* cheapskates (besides me, though I also love a bargain).

    Those *other* cheapskates eyes will no longer even have a *chance* to see the code for the additional software Suse and Redhat suggest putting in all *ENTERPRISE* level deployments.

    Maybe I don't "get" the Linux Philosophy, but to me, using proprietary software that just anyone can't have a look at is NOT meeting the Ideals that Slashdot brought me up to believe were Good and Right.

    That's all I'm saying.

  13. suse live cd/dvd images also on many http sites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
  14. Re:Replacing Windows/Exchange with Suse/Groupwise by gregarican · · Score: 2, Informative

    From what I had read on this, Microsoft Exchange Server is replaced with SUSE OpenExchange Server. It seems to be a good fit. That takes care of the server end. On the desktop end those shops still using Windows clients can continue running Microsoft Lookout as the messaging client. To the enduser everything is supposedly seamless.

    Of course this is all based on research, not practical experience. I'd love to hear of some practical success stories making the switch.

  15. Re:Doesn't fedora have the new Gnome KDE and Kerne by sirReal.83. · · Score: 2, Informative

    Such a lie. FC3 has had KDE 3.3.0 for a good while now. kdelibs is at 3.3.1, even.

  16. SuSE by Ambient_Developer · · Score: 2, Informative

    I used to love SuSe the networking utilities that SuSe has are excellent, and I think YaSt is excellent for beginners that do not know anything about linux. I started off on SuSe (simply because it took up the most disks), and I eventually lost my love of YaSt (sometimes it has problems properly managing packages it seems). I would still use SuSe today it there were freely available ISO's on thier site (not live cd either). Last time I checked though the only way to get SuSe (free) is through a live FTP install, which I would rather not do. So I made the switch to mandrake, which seems also excellent.

  17. Re:Thinking of Switching your Enterprise To SuSE? by minus_273 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mods, read the article in question. This is not even close to a troll. It is something that is on topic and people should see it. The article is quite interesting and does not takes sides. It is also not something that would ever be allowed on the front page becasue it presents an objective overview of the problems that Linux adoption has faced in Europe. If nothing else, this shoudl be a good lesson for future adoption efforts. Some of the mods just dont want people to read this becasue it is not full of glowing praise.

    Mod Parent up!

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  18. My problem with SUSE by AvantLegion · · Score: 4, Informative
    I love SUSE for many great features, but I don't use it as my regular Linux OS. The main reason for this is that there is simply TOO much software that is NOT available through YAST/YOU. It seems that a lot of people use apt4rpm along with it, and track down a ton of 3rd party repositories, some of unknown origin (to me at least) and questionable veracity. Maybe I'm weird, but I hate being pointed to a repository with a domain name that I don't recognize, with no apparent ties to the distro project itself... just sorta *there*. Who's doing it? Why should I trust their packages?

    I guess that's one reason I like Debian and Gentoo. If I need it, they've got it, and not in some package ghetto somewhere.

    Plus, I think YAST is so handy, but useless in that I have to go to apt4rpm for so much software. It takes away one of the advantages to SUSE.

    If I could access all the software I needed through YAST, and could do so with either repository efforts with ties to SUSE, or at least well-defined community project repositories (ie. not just an unlabeled "dump" site), then I could go back to sweet SUSE.

    Maybe it's there, and I haven't looked close enough. Then call me an idiot and point me in the right direction.

    1. Re:My problem with SUSE by seguso · · Score: 2, Informative
      Here's everything you need:

      ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.1-i386/

      You can find the latest kde, mplayer, xine, libdvdcss, synaptic, etc.

      Quick instructions:

      First, install apt (which means installing three packages: lua, apt-libs and apt, if memory doesn't fail me. ). you can find these packages in the subdir suser-rbos.

      Then, edit /etc/apt/sources.list according to the software you need.

      Then apt-get update.

      Now you can install every other packages like you would on debian.

      For example, here's the line I usually add to sources.list:

      rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.1-i386 suser-rbos packman-i686 packman base funktronics suser-scorot suser-tcousin suser-ollakka suser-oc2pus suser-jogley suser-gbv suse-people suser-guru suser-sbarnin rpmkeys ximian xorg wine

  19. Re:Question by sloanster · · Score: 4, Informative

    I will definitely want to go to 9.2 for various reasons, I don't see any benefit to staying on 9.1 when it's easy and free to upgrade. While current and older releases will continue to get security fixes for awhile, many packages will never get upgraded, and you'll need to move forward to get some of the fresher goodies in 9.2 (and later versions)

    As far as upgrading 9.1 to 9.2 via apt, it is just a matter of pointing your apt sources to a 9.2 repository - next "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" cycle will get you on 9.2 -

  20. Re:Distro with 2.8? by dweezil-n0xad · · Score: 2, Informative

    doesn't Ubuntu Linux use gnome 2.8?

  21. SuSE 9.2 LiveDVD by akulbe · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was a disappointment. My idea was to try out 9.2 before buying the boxed set... because we're looking at offering it as the Linux solution to our customers. I'm not sure if the first problem I encountered is a licensing issue, or not... but when I booted the DVD on my desktop box at home, the modules wouldn't load for the Atheros-based wireless card. ath_pci.ko exists on the DVD, but it loads ath_hal.ko as well... which does NOT exist on the DVD. So... it will boot, and look pretty, but no networking is available. I thought I'd bring the LiveDVD to work and test it out on the ThinkPad laptops. A joke. When the LiveDVD would boot, it would get to the cloop part of the boot, and there were hex strings, scrolling the screen until I got an error message about no more memory being available. So it was of no use to me in either situation I tried it on. Big disappointment this time around... I wanted to check out the 9.2 boxed set, since one of the things mentioned in the release notes is improved wireless configuration tools. Wireless was the one and only issue I had with previous 8.x and 9.1 versions. All of this to say that it SUCKS that I can't even try it out. I'm going to see if I have any better luck with one of the LiveCD versions.

  22. Re:Is Mandrake better? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Actually, Mandrake 10.1 (which I'm using ATM) only supports KDE 3.2.3. KDE 3.3.0 is on the 4th CD and not everyone has access to it. Also, it's still labeled as experimental, and is not installed be default. So Suse 9.2 is the first to have it by default.

  23. Re:What the hell? by crush · · Score: 2, Informative
    Both RH and Suse offer certain configurations of their software which you cannot get without paying. I don't have anything against paying someone for software I use, if it's also available for free. But I do have a problem with software that you can't even look at unless you pay.

    Some specifics would be useful in evaluating your strongly stated claim that Red Hat and SuSE have software that "you can't even look at unless you pay". As far as I'm aware this is completely untrue. All of Red Hat and SuSE's software is offered under FL/OSS licenses and can be downloaded from their servers. This extends all the way up to the top of the line offerings from Red Hat's "Enterprise" and "Advanced Server" ranges which include stuff like Piranha and the Satellite update system. What they don't offer are binaries of this software. You have you use your shallow bug-eyes to read the code and figure out how to compile and install it.

    As for wanting your software configured for you for free: hire a systems administrator or do it yourself. No one's under any obligation to configure your systems for you or to play your games for you.

  24. Re:How about never by c_spencer100 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not about popularity, it's about Microsoft. To gain the right to ship OEM verions of Windows, most computer manufacturers had to sign a contract, part of which states that they can't ship any other OS with their hardware. At the time, Linux wasn't nearly as big as it is now, so companies didn't realize they were signing away their rights as much as they were. In fact, I think Dell is really screwed because I believe they also have such an agreement with Intel as well.

  25. Re:How about a laptop by pgfault · · Score: 1, Informative

    Dell's Precision notebook may have come with Linux at one time, but not currently. The rest of the Precision workstation line can be had with RHEL or XP Pro. Although we've moved to SuSE 9.1 at work, those wanting their own factory Linux system are encouraged to check out the Dell Precision. Hopefully a SuSE solution from Dell will be on the horizon and hopefully we'll see Linux on their luggable M60 tank (er, notebook).

    If you ask nicely and order a sufficient number of units, Dell will drop the MS license from some their Optiplex models and simply ship you a copy of FreeDOS. These are known as the 'n' models. E.g., GX270n. Do you remember getting such a model back in the 90's? I don't either.

    Standard disclaimer applies (I don't work for Dell) and YMMV.

  26. Not pre-shipped but... by Knara · · Score: 3, Informative
    I just got (yesterday) a Dell Inspiron 600m and installed SUSE 9.1 on it.

    Believe it or not, the install worked better out of the box than installing XP Pro and using their shrinkwrapped driver CDs.

    As far as I can tell, everything was detected automatically. I haven't played with it much yet, but nothing leaps out as broken or non-functional.

    And for us techno-types, that's pretty nice.

  27. Re:DVD Player by orcrist · · Score: 2, Informative

    The problem with mplayer is that it can sometimes be tough to find the dvdcsslibs and configure them properly

    I think you must be a little out of date. Mplayer already coms with css decoding built-in these days. The only extra stuff you need to download is if you want to watch stuff that needs win32 codecs.

    -chris

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