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SCO Gives up on Linux Website

Richard Mathias writes "Following on from the posting a month ago, where SCO said it was going to launch a new website to counteract Groklaw and give its side of things - well, now the company looks like it's given up on the whole plan. It was originally supposed to be at Prosco.net, then SCOinfo.com, but both have holding pages and a spokeswoman has said it may never happen at all because of "legal and management concerns"." Update: 11/03 01:10 GMT by T : editingwhiz writes "Despite earlier published reports, SCO Group is indeed still planning to post a lawsuit-information Web site under a new name, SCOinfo.com, company spokesman Blake Stowell told IT Manager's Journal today. So SCO is not throwing in the proverbial towel after all. But does it really make any difference? (IT Manager's Journal is part of OSTG.)"

178 comments

  1. Looks to me... by leonmergen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Looks to me that website was to Groklaw what Elgoog is to Google - a fun but twisted way to look at reality... :-)

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    1. Re:Looks to me... by aurelian · · Score: 3, Funny

      Guess they should have called it Walkorg then.. sounds like one of Tolkien's monsters. Which is kind of appropriate.

    2. Re:Looks to me... by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      Looks like walk.org was already taken...

    3. Re:Looks to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Walk Org?

      Sounds more like a Scientology franchise* Of course, SCO reminds me more and more of a Scientologist for some reason (probably because both are always suing people for incredibly stupid reasons).

      * In the event a member of Scientology's own law firm, or another representing them reads this, note that I'm anonymous, your "tech" is insipid, and you yourselves called them franchises before you started pretending to be a religion in order to get tax & legal advantages :P Why don't you go recruit Darl now? He's easily brainwashed (not much to wash, really), highly suggestible, operates well in a moral vacuum, is very (in)famous, and likes suing people. Sounds like a model Scientologist, to me.

  2. Just goes to show... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can only throw shit for so long before your arm gets tired.

    1. Re:Just goes to show... by gmac63 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Doesn't matter. The shit sill stinks.

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    2. Re:Just goes to show... by beacher · · Score: 4, Funny
      FTA..... "The purpose is to provide factual information regarding SCO's litigation".. and you wonder why the website is empty?

      At least someone has a semblance of reality over there or somehow escaped their twisted alternate universe....

  3. Wow! by forgotten_my_nick · · Score: 4, Funny

    SCO is still around? Thought they died months ago.

    1. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SCO is still around? Thought they died months ago.

      You don't visit /. too often, do you?

    2. Re:Wow! by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

      They died years ago. Now they're just shambling around like a zombie, causing damage and panic, and looking for brains. So far they haven't found any.

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    3. Re:Wow! by Karma+Farmer · · Score: 2, Funny
      Well, at this point SCO can't even afford to create a website, so it's probably all over but the lawsuits.

      Though, I can't see why they wanted to create a website anyhow. Who would be the target audience?
      1. Potential new customers?
      2. Current customers who haven't committed to migrating away?
      3. ...
      4. Underpants Gnomes?
      Heck, the lawyers probably own most of the equity in the company by now anyhow. They're probably less interested in an actual business plan that McBride is.
    4. Re:Wow! by simcop2387 · · Score: 1

      Well, at this point SCO can't even afford to create a website, so it's probably all over but the lawsuits.

      Great if we slashdot them maybe we can make them go away! make their bandwidth bills over $100,000,000!

    5. Re:Wow! by Blob+Pet · · Score: 2, Funny

      Someone needs to tell them Halloween was Sunday.

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    6. Re:Wow! by DigitumDei · · Score: 4, Informative
      A couple of my favourite bits from Zombies according to wikipedia. Doesn't take much to apply them to SCO or Darl.

      A more skeptical take is that a zombie is a living person who has never died, but is under the influence of powerful drugs

      While zombies do not usually appear in lawbooks and few laws exist to regulate them, in some places, such as Haiti, they are considered a public nuisance.

    7. Re:Wow! by robertjw · · Score: 1

      Didn't you see Dawn of the Dead or 28 Days later?
      Zombies don't shamble around anymore - They RUN!!!

    8. Re:Wow! by EvilAlien · · Score: 2, Funny
      Its important that we're all prepared for assault by unknown evil such as al Qaeda, Iraq, SCO, or Zombies: Zombie Survival Tactics.

      I'm not sure any of those tactics will protect against SCO/Darl Zombies, however.. coming soon on Fox: "When Darls Attack".

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    9. Re:Wow! by mpe · · Score: 1

      They died years ago. Now they're just shambling around like a zombie, causing damage and panic, and looking for brains. So far they haven't found any.

      Maybe they are hoping someone will vote for them :)

    10. Re:Wow! by Chris+L.+Mason · · Score: 1

      They died years ago. Now they're just shambling around like a zombie, causing damage and panic, and looking for brains. So far they haven't found any

      Well, I think they got Darl's a while back, although though that was barely an appetizer.

    11. Re:Wow! by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny
      No, I don't have Dawn of the Dead (2004), fsck off and go away!!!

      Oh, sorry! Yesterday I got a dirty DHCP IP address, and all day long there was a continuous stream of Gnutella clones knocking on my port 6346 and asking for part of that movie. I could turn away some of them with a "HTTP/1.1 404" response, but the P2P net kept sending more of them to look for the last piece of that movie. Eventually I gave them a 302 Moved response and told them that the Location was themselves, but I'm not sure if their protocol supports that.

      Silly me, I should have told them that SCO was the best place to look for zombie flicks.

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    12. Re:Wow! by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny
      ... t this point SCO can't even afford to create a website, ...
      They can afford to create a web site (what's that cost nowadays ... pretty much nothing).

      Problem is, they can't afford the $699.00 linux binary license for the server :-)

    13. Re:Wow! by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      From the look of this Scientology Org, they want people to take the Personality Test.

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    14. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A while back someone came up with the idea that if we ran up their bandwidth bills, they would go bankrupt and be taken over by their isp.

      Someone else followed up with, "Then Unix will belong to AT&T, and we'll be back where we started."

    15. Re:Wow! by mink · · Score: 1

      I dunno, "Shaun of the Dead" shows us a more traditional type zombie can still be quite effective.
      Sure the "just do it" zombies are cool but the light that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

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    16. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "While zombies do not usually appear in lawbooks and few laws exist to regulate them, in some places, such as Haiti, they are considered a public nuisance."

      damn those niggers intolerant...!

      ...

      oh...wait...i thought that said "White zombies"...never mind.

  4. Perhaps occasional lying is better than constant? by garcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fernandes cited "legal and management concerns about the content of the website" as precipitating the review but declined to comment on specifics.

    I have a feeling that they knew they would have very few supporters on that site. They would probably spend more time astroturfing and fighting off the "bad" posts than they would "spreading the truth".

    They have enough lies coming out in press releases do they really want to have a site that lies constantly? Wouldn't that just be more fodder for those on the pro-Linux side?

  5. slashdotted? by Tanktalus · · Score: 5, Funny

    First time I ever saw a site slashdotted before it went live...

    1. Re:slashdotted? by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny

      It looks like it's doing okay. Check it out and hit refresh a few times to make sure.

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    2. Re:slashdotted? by Tanktalus · · Score: 1

      I do understand that the instant you have to explain a joke to someone, it becomes a lot less funny, but I have to do it ...

      It looks like it's doing okay. [prosco.net]

      At this point, it seems that AndroidCat (229562) is, indeed, missing its parent's joke. However ...

      Check it out and hit refresh a few times to make sure.

      the encouragement to slashdot the hell out of prosco is entertaining in its own right. If I laughed any louder, my coworkers would have complained! AndroidCat's subtle encouragement to cause the joke s/he supposedly missed is a poignant expression of ... oh, who am I fooling - it's just plain funny :-)

    3. Re:slashdotted? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      I almost put "hit refresh a few times to make sure of it", as in a few more rounds of ammo, but I figured that would be a bit too thick. :)

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    4. Re:slashdotted? by druxton · · Score: 1

      Oddly enough, according to Netcraft that server is running on Windows 2000. I guess they couldn't afford that Linux license after all.

    5. Re:slashdotted? by tolan-b · · Score: 1

      OK I just re-read his post again and now feel suitably silly.

      I didn't notice the last bit about clicking refresh honestly!

      Well at least I didn't have mod points that day eh?

      *hides*

  6. They Had Nothing by brandonp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In order for their idea to work, they'd actually need to have real and factual material to put on their Groklaw 'archrival'. Otherwise the new site would've been ripped appart.

    So in summary, They Had Nothing.

    Brandon Petersen
    Get Firefox!

  7. When the truth comes out... by thewiz · · Score: 1, Interesting

    the liars start running.

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    If "disco" means "I learn" in Latin, does "discothèque" mean "I learn technology"?
  8. "legal and management concerns" by MarkEst1973 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Means they didn't have the money to put towards it. That website would not be the profit center that the lawsuit will be. All resources must go to the lawsuit, while there are still resources to be found.

  9. Speaking of SCO... by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Interesting


    For those who haven't checked lately, SCOX has been trading at around 3.0 lately.

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    1. Re:Speaking of SCO... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For those who haven't checked lately, SCO is down 5% over he past trading week, RHAT is down 8%.

    2. Re:Speaking of SCO... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SCOX is a really interesting stock if you keep incramenting the time period. Sure glad I didn't invest in 2000!

    3. Re:Speaking of SCO... by DrXym · · Score: 1
      LOL, less! Currently trading at 2.91 as I write this. I thought they'd tank a lot faster than they have, but I suppose there were a lot of fingers of the scales bolstering the price before now. With Baystar bailing out as fast as possible, I wonder if the pace will accelerate.


      Bye bye SCO we hardly knew ye.

    4. Re:Speaking of SCO... by sootman · · Score: 1

      Aw, c'mon, post a link to the FUN pic.

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    5. Re:Speaking of SCO... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      For those who haven't checked lately, SCO is down 5% over he past trading week, RHAT is down 8%.

      Yes, and whatever portion of the fall in RHAT stock that has been caused by false information and threats in the press and directly to current and potential RHAT customers (such as the demands for "licensing fees" for SCOX IP fron Linux users) becomes an issue for the courts. I believe that RHAT has already filed under the Lanham act with the courts for trebled damages. The courts will sort that out later, but trebled damages from an 8% fall in RHAT Market Cap is more than the entire worth of SCOX.

    6. Re:Speaking of SCO... by nicke999 · · Score: 1

      Whenever you're feeling down you can always watch SCO's performance during the last year....sweeeeeeet.

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    7. Re:Speaking of SCO... by Marc+Desrochers · · Score: 1
      They have been trading at around $3.00 for a while. What is interesting to see is the flurry $0.01 incremental asks, quickly followed by the same $0.01 incremental bids for 100 shares, every day 10 minutes before closing. They held out above $3 for a while, guess it was some critical value for a major bagholder to cash out at, who knows.

      Stock manipulation??? SCOX!?!?! Never...

    8. Re:Speaking of SCO... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm, actually it opened at 2.90, having lost .02 overnight (it closed yesterday at 2.92). It appears to have closed at 2.85 today, so lost 0.07 since yesterdays close. If it keeps loosing a nickel a day, at it's current price, it will be at 0 by the end of December. If it keeps loosing 0.07 per day (as it did today), it will be done in 40 days. It's also interesting to see the 52 week range, where the lower end of the range is the daily closing value, and the upper end of the range is 9 times as large as where the price is now.

  10. Sco lawsuit is media driven not truth driven by nattt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Again this proves that the SCO suits are all media driven to spread FUD about Linux, to help their "friends", Microsoft, and to manipulate their stock price.

    Once Groklaw started to show people the facts of the case through legal filings and great research, SCO started coming undone, because we know they are Caldera, they contributed to Linux, released Unix code, helped IBM with project Monterrey and didn't object at the time to PPC AIX, indeed advertised the fact! We see their lies in their own words where they repeatedly contradict themselves.

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    1. Re:Sco lawsuit is media driven not truth driven by spacepimp · · Score: 1

      Again this proves that the SCO suits are all media driven: if this were so, is not a website a form of media?

    2. Re:Sco lawsuit is media driven not truth driven by nattt · · Score: 1

      Good point, but the "threat" of "SCO truth" to them is a better media bat than a website that actually proclaims "SCO truth" as:
      1) their words would be used against them by IBM in a court of law
      2) printing court filings would also show that SCO are loosing badly....

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  11. Legal concerns? by dnaboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCO? Who'd have thunk it.

    1. Re:Legal concerns? by northcat · · Score: 1

      When a case is in the court what are the legalities to start a website like this? Isn't it some kind of disrespect to the court? Any lawyers here?

    2. Re:Legal concerns? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      There's nothing illegal about having or starting such a site. It's just extremely foolhardy, as anything you publish on such a site can be used against you in a court of law.

      Now, if they put up material that had been sealed by the court, that would be a different matter entirely. That's worse than foolhardy, it's suicidal. Same if they violate a gag order.

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  12. running out of cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    sco is nothing more than a charity for lawyers and executives, lets just hope no one goes postal because of their financial losses

  13. let me get this out of the way.. by Tracer_Bullet82 · · Score: 2, Informative

    scocucks.com

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  14. Re:Perhaps occasional lying is better than constan by I+confirm+I'm+not+a · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have a feeling that they knew they would have very few supporters on that site

    IIRC, SCO weren't going to permit posting. My suspicion is that SCO realised that it'd be deadly dull with no posting. (It's a tribute to Groklaw volunteers that Groklaw manage to make a very dry topic quite interesting - without volunteers I doubt SCO could have given "watching paint dry" a run for its money).

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  15. SCO be a happy place to work by lottameez · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't even imagine how depressing it must be to work at that place. Can't even manage to put up a website with their version of the truth.

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    1. Re:SCO be a happy place to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why they use powerful, dangerous and illegal drugs.

    2. Re:SCO be a happy place to work by metlin · · Score: 1

      Probably has this big guy with loud bad breath walking around in a black dress saying, "I sense your lack of faith disturbing."

      To make interesting, there's probably a version of Steve Balmer jumping around yelling, "Lawyers! Lawyers! Lawyers!"

      I think it would be awesome, pure entertainment 24/7. Hell, you get paid, too.

    3. Re:SCO be a happy place to work by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      That picture was so lame it was funny. =) Especially the tiny face.

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  16. Clever monkeys by /ASCII · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Guess they figured out that it is easier to track down lies in websites than in complex legal documents, speeches and interviews.

    This way they can continue to make snide remarks about groklaw beeing owned by IBM without backing their claims.

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  17. "legal and management concerns" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should be concerned because of their management acting illegally.

  18. I think Nelson Muntz said it best by castlec · · Score: 1, Funny

    HA HA!!!!

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  19. No posts by wowbagger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They were not going to allow posts from the public, as does Groklaw - their site was to be nothing but their voice, with no comments from the peanut gallery. As such, the concern for trolling/astroturfing/conflicting opinions was non-existant.

    The more likely explaination was that, in the absense of such posts, the only thing their site could have would be either court documents a la Groklaw (which would do them no good), or statements from SCO, which would find their way into the courts, and as such would have to be true or they would expose SCO to (more) problems in court. When SCO legal informed them of this, SCO probably realised that there was no benefit in doing this.

    1. Re:No posts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      statements from SCO, which would find their way into the courts, and as such would have to be true or they would expose SCO to (more) problems in court

      Exactly. SCO's various adversaries have already been having a blast showing their various judges the inconsistencies between what SCO has claimed in different courts. In Red Hat's case, in fact, the whole point of the litigation is the lies that SCO's management had been spreading in public statements. I suspect that "legal and management concerns" is shorthand for "legal was concerned that management was full of idiots".

    2. Re:No posts by badasscat · · Score: 2, Funny

      I suspect that "legal and management concerns" is shorthand for "legal was concerned that management was full of idiots".

      And legal isn't?

      I think you're giving them entirely too much credit. I think Darl probably just couldn't figure out how to get FrontPage to put the site up for him, and finally gave up.

    3. Re:No posts by PMuse · · Score: 1

      You nailed it. Apparently SCO is still listening to their own lawyers every once in a while.

      Yes, Your Honor, that's our site by PMuse (320639) on 02:31 PM -- Wednesday October 13 2004 (#10516256)

      You've gotta be kidding me! SCO is going to open up a whole site mouthing off while they're still in the middle of a court case?

      Quick! Some one start an egg timer to see how long it takes before the Judge sees something SCO wrote on there and takes their heads off for it.

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    4. Re:No posts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      They were not going to allow posts from the public, as does Groklaw - their site was to be nothing but their voice

      I wonder if they realized that this isn't any different from pages from their own web site.

      the only thing their site could have would be either court documents a la Groklaw (which would do them no good), or statements from SCO, which would find their way into the courts, and as such would have to be true or they would expose SCO to (more) problems in court.

      And why would anything they say or put up be a problem?

    5. Re:No posts by shotfeel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And legal isn't?

      Let me answer that with a question. How much money have the lawyers pocketed?

    6. Re:No posts by Kenardy · · Score: 1

      I think legal realized that SCO is nearly out of toes and can't afford to shoot itself in the foot forever. Legal probably doesn't object to the toe mutilation as much as they object to the 'out of money to pay attornies' part.

  20. I thought that speaking of SCO... by gmac63 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...was forbidden. If not, it should be.
    Oh, damn, I said "SCO". Doh, I said "SCO" again! GD, There I go again. "SCO" right there in print.
    Auughhh! Crap. I just can't keep from saying "SCO".

    SCO. SCO. SCO. SCO. SCO.

    Sorry for that folks. The author has comitted suicide for saying "SCO". Oooops, sorry for saying "SCO". Ahhhh, sorry for saying "SCO again". Oh, no. There I go saying "SCO". Forgive me...

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    1. Re:I thought that speaking of SCO... by Alazoral · · Score: 1

      Oh I saw what you did there. I like the signature file, too, its totally like "LOL LINUS LOL".

    2. Re:I thought that speaking of SCO... by ptlis · · Score: 1

      Even if that was supposed to be ironic (which I doubt) it was the most retarded comment i've ever seen on /. and that's going some.

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    3. Re:I thought that speaking of SCO... by thephotoman · · Score: 1

      Say Ni. It'll save you! Ni! Ni! Ni!

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    4. Re:I thought that speaking of SCO... by jadel · · Score: 1

      Nobody is to Slashdot anybody even if - and I want to make this absolutely clear - even if they do say 'SCO'!

  21. Keeping a low profile by FearUncertaintyDoubt · · Score: 4, Interesting
    To date, SCO's actions have been a little like sticking your head up out of the foxhole -- with about a thousand guns trained on your position. Every time they try to take a shot themselves, they get pounded with a barrage of fire from several different directions. So if you have any sense, you just stay down and don't give them anything to shoot at.

    SCO doesn't have much on it's side. The more they encourage effort on the part of their adversaries, the more they have to lose. Perhaps they believed that in this overly intellectual property-conscious land, they would get sympathy, but if so, that was a miscalculation.

  22. To prevent karma whoring. . . . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    SCO dumps Linux crusade website

    Having second thoughts thanks to 'legal concerns'.

    By Robert McMillan, IDG News Service

    The SCO Group is reconsidering its plans to launch an alternative to the Groklaw.net website that was due to go live yesterday.

    Nearly one month after promising to launch the site that would provide information on SCO's various legal disputes, the company is having second thoughts on the project, said Janielle Fernandes, a spokeswoman for the software vendor. "It's still up for debate whether the website will ever go up," she said.

    Fernandes cited "legal and management concerns about the content of the website" as precipitating the review but declined to comment on specifics.

    After having its every legal move dissected on the Groklaw.net website for more than a year, SCO executives decided to launch a website of their own, devoted to giving their side of the argument. It should have gone live on 1 November - yesterday.

    SCO originally said the site would use the domain name Prosco.net. That name has now been dropped in favor of SCOinfo.com, although both now resolve to a blank screen with the message: "SCO is anticipating that it will use this site as the future home for all information relating to SCO's pending lawsuits and related issues. For current information about SCO's suit against IBM, please visit www.sco.com/ibmlawsuit, and about SCO's suit against Novell, please visit www.sco.com/novell."

    "The name was changed to support the purpose of the website," she said. "The purpose is to provide factual information regarding SCO's litigation, thus the name SCOinfo.com." Whether and when SCOinfo.com will ever contain this information is still up for debate within the company, Fernandes said.

    SCO is presently involved in a number of legal disputes with IBM, Novell, Red Hat, Autozone and DaimlerChrysler - all stemming from its insistence that it owns the copyright on part of the open source Linux kernel.

    Started shortly after the 2003 launch of SCO's multi-billion dollar lawsuit against IBM, Groklaw began as a Web log for Linux enthusiast Pamela Jones, a paralegal working for a law firm at the time. It has evolved into an open-source project itself, where legal filings are meticulously dissected by an army of volunteers.

  23. Sorry, but I have to say it.... by cyberkahn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Netcraft hasn't confirmed it yet. :-)

  24. The site will be up... by Dinosaur+Neil · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm sure the site will be up just as soon as they present some actual evidence of how IBM done them wrong...

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  25. Caldera logo= Mickey Mouse by Rico_za · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Slight OT, I know, but still mildly interesting:
    Every time I look at the Caldera logo, I'm reminded of an image of Mickey Mouse baloon as seen from the side, so you can only see half his head and one ear. I mean, take this image put it on a red baloon, and look at it from the side: result
    It's always been kinda ironic to me how it mirrors SCO's Mickey Mouse bussiness practices.

    1. Re:Caldera logo= Mickey Mouse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not interesting, nor is it a new observation.

      What I find interesting, however, is that Slashdot hasn't come up with a childish icon for SCO news, like the Borg Gates icon, or the Broken Windows icon.

  26. Management Concerns.... by MosesJones · · Score: 4, Funny


    At SCO ? I mean how likely is that ? These are people who think that attacking IBM is a good company move. This means either two things

    1) The site was actually a good idea

    2) SCO management have gone past insantiy and out the otherside, potentially a large number of times.

    I doubt its 1, so it must be 2, which is fantastic as all we need to do is wire them up to a magnet and coil and that constant rotation from sanity to madness will enable us to create cheap, non-polluting energy. The only by product of this generation would be an increase in Slashdot posts around the madness peak, but hopefully we can pull that energy in as well.

    Other potential energy sources included the quantum state of Iraqi WMDs, but unfortunately their state has now resolved itself.

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    1. Re:Management Concerns.... by MikeBabcock · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think #1 may in fact be correct. SCO *needs* good spin on this issue, and we all know Darl isn't providing it. Given proper implementation, they could possibly help themselves with such a site.

      I doubt they'd win the case, but their share prices may go up long enough to sell out.

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    2. Re:Management Concerns.... by shotfeel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Which opens another can-O-worms -misleading investors.

      If SCO "publishes" misleading information on their web site, and people make investments based on that information, seems they could be in for another round of lawsuits aimed at them.

      IANAL.. ...but I play one on the internet.

  27. The end is near for SCOX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    1. Re:The end is near for SCOX by Relic+of+the+Future · · Score: 1

      The two-year graph is even more... interesting.

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  28. The real reason? by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 5, Funny

    and a spokeswoman has said it may never happen at all because of "legal and management concerns"."

    Maybe they looked at their own argument and realized it even looked stupid to them.

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  29. Probably figured they had enough legal battles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    w/o having to fight a urological health warehouse club over the "prosco.com" domain.

  30. SCO Fail It! by cheezemonkhai · · Score: 4, Funny

    SCO has noticed code violations in other website which are directly taken from our own site.

    Due to this we have pulled our site to prevent further theft and will be taking legal action to defend our interlectual property.

    Examples of stolen code include:

    - used on many lines in may pages.
    - used on many lines in may pages.

    - used on other pages and I guess we should have used XHTML too ;)

    On consultation with out lawyers they said this case whad a good chance of being profitable, although they didn't say who for ;)

  31. read as... by catdevnull · · Score: 4, Funny


    Read "legal and management concerns" as "We're tired of DDoS attacks and getting rooted by people who know more about *nix than we do."

    he he

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  32. For $3 by forgotten_my_nick · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would buy one share. Is it possible to get the share in paper format that will look nice framed? Might make a good history piece.

    1. Re:For $3 by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 1

      Now if they could only find ten million "souvenir" hunters...

    2. Re:For $3 by shotfeel · · Score: 1

      Could soon bring new meaning to the phrase "not worth the paper its printed on."

  33. They could be held responsible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They have enough lies coming out in press releases do they really want to have a site that lies constantly? Wouldn't that just be more fodder for those on the pro-Linux side?

    Yes. Especially since in civil suits, media statements from the parties can be entered into evidence. Pro-SCO comments on a SCO operated forum would, disclaimers notwithstanding, be held against SCO (as if the officers at SCO weren't digging fast enough in their press statements). They would be better served by putting up a MSN-sponsored site, where they can astroturf without being held accountable in court. Strike that. That would enforce the Microsoft-SCO links.

    But the stock scam is all but over, looking at the stock price. And I wonder if they really got enough profitable quarters in a row to give Darl McBride the big bonus...

  34. I guess that means S. C. O. stands for.... by cmdrwhitewolf · · Score: 1

    "Still C****ed Out".

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  35. sco sues slashdot by torrents · · Score: 1

    i noticed there was no link to sco in the story... probably a good idea to avoid doing anything that may lead to a barrage of litigation...

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  36. duh!! by jonathanduty · · Score: 0

    SCO is a "legal and management concern"

  37. gotta be a budget thing. by twitter · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I have a feeling that they knew they would have very few supporters on that site. They would probably spend more time astroturfing and fighting off the "bad" posts than they would "spreading the truth".

    How many sites can they afford to astroturf and DoS? There's Slashdot, Kuroshin, Google, Grocklaw itself. All of those efforts cost money but have failed to one extent or another. I doubt they have the money to keep it up.

    No one was going to read their goofey fanboy site anyway. It's hard to make a community out of brand loyalty to a product no one is buying. You can fool some all the time and everyone some of the time but you can't fool all the people all the time, not even the press.

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    1. Re:gotta be a budget thing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      How many sites can they afford to astroturf and DoS?

      That's a good question, but what I wonder about are your claims of SCO executing Denial of Service attacks. Do you have any links to back that up? Google shows nothing about SCO doing such things, would you mind sharing where you learned of this? I've heard of causes of SCO claiming they were DoS'ed, but that's about it. As we've been saying to SCO the whole time: put up or shut up :)

  38. They found prior art by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

    when they researched the term sock-puppet. (Mainly the Usenet usage where a kook creates dozens of alternate identities to agree with himself; but usage of a cheap puppet with a hand up its bum works too.)

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  39. How about.. by freaksta · · Score: 2, Funny

    scowho.org ?

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  40. Re:SCO Fail It! Should have read by cheezemonkhai · · Score: 1

    SCO has noticed code violations in other website which are directly taken from our own site.

    Due to this we have pulled our site to prevent further theft and will be taking legal action to defend our interlectual property.

    Examples of stolen code include:

    "html" - used on many lines in many pages.
    "/html" - used on many lines in many pages.

    "br /" - used on other pages and I guess we should have used XHTML too ;)

    On consultation with out lawyers they said this case whad a good chance of being profitable, although they didn't say who for ;)

  41. ``legal and mamagement concerns'' REALLY means: by nels_tomlinson · · Score: 4, Funny
    ... a spokeswoman has said it may never happen at all because of "legal and management concerns".

    ``Legal concerns'' probably means their lawyers told them: ``If you do this, we won't be able to maintain the fiction that you have a case.''

    ``Management concerns'' probably means that management didn't think it would pump the stock up enough to make up for the lawyers jumping ship.

    1. Re:``legal and mamagement concerns'' REALLY means: by antiMStroll · · Score: 1

      I read it as SCO couldn't manage to find anything legal in their support.

  42. Did the lawyers have a say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I seem to recall several several times that if you are involved in a court case, you should keep your mouth shut. Maybe the lawyers are telling SCO execs that this is a dumb idea.

    By the way, I am not a lawyer, and taking this as legal advice without asking a real lawyer is like drinking poision to see what it tastes like.

    1. Re:Did the lawyers have a say? by Hieronymus+Howard · · Score: 3, Funny

      taking this as legal advice without asking a real lawyer is like drinking poision to see what it tastes like

      Yes folks, always get a real lawyer to drink poision for you.

    2. Re:Did the lawyers have a say? by dheltzel · · Score: 1
      Yes folks, always get a real lawyer to drink poision for you.

      Preferably a whole team of lawyers, more data points that way. I understand some have built up (legal) immunities.

  43. Stupid is as stupid does. by twitter · · Score: 1
    For those who haven't checked lately, SCOX has been trading at around 3.0 lately.

    Dumber things have happened. Why mess around with plot when you can go to the conclusion? Pump followed by dump.

    The DLoP (Distributed Lack of Purchasing) attack continues.

    The real questions are, "who's buying that garbage" and "what do they think are they are buying?" After the largest investors expressed their misgivings and tried to get out, you would wonder who'd be dumb enough to buy SCOX.

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    1. Re:Stupid is as stupid does. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Basically Gamblers are buying the stock.

      It is like playing the Lotto. becasue the case isn't over yet. For $100 an investor has a chance to make much much more if SCO somehow pulls out a trump card and makes a comeback. If they loose then the investor has only lost $100.

      As for the what do think they are getting, the think they are getting a Lottery ticket and they are. Remeber, the case isn't over yet and with the current fuckwad that is the American legal system, I woudln't count SCO ut just yet.

  44. Pronunciation by subStance · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "legal and management concerns" is pronounced "fear of being sued for libel".

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  45. www.darlmcbride.com is functional by GillBates0 · · Score: 4, Informative
    http://www.darlmcbride.com has been up and functional. It contains an "Open Letter to the Open Source Community September 9, 2003".

    Stop by and take a look....unfortunately I couldn't locate a place to leave "Comments" and "Feedback" to their FUD.

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  46. SCHo-Hum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Spoken out of the side of the mouth to Darl, et. al.:


    "Go away, boy; you bother me."

  47. Re:Perhaps occasional lying is better than constan by Lt+Cmdr+Tuvok · · Score: 2, Insightful
    There is a substantial flaw in your argument.

    Firstly, I must object to your subject, "Perhaps occasional lying is better than constant?". It assumes that the managers of the company under discussion, SCO, are deliberately spreading falsehoods. This is not an objective fact. You risk sounding like a zealot by using such strong language in this regard.

    Also, if SCO is already, as you claim, partaking in regular 'lying' by means of press releases, what is the principal difference between this behavior and setting up a website that also regularily 'lies'? In no way do you explain why that would be as great a leap as you claim. I am puzzled as to your logic here. Perhaps you would care to elaborate on this issue?

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  48. Looks to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Wouldn't the appropriate website be SCOnfusion.com?

  49. Re:Perhaps occasional lying is better than constan by happyemoticon · · Score: 4, Interesting
    My suspicion is that SCO realised that it'd be deadly dull with no posting.

    Groklaw: Provides legal docs; presents a point of view which does not get media coverage; and, allows people to discuss the issues.

    They already have a repository for legal docs somewhere on their main site. Their highly publicized press releases are partisan to their viewpoint. They are not really interested in posts from people in the "community" because there is no community; they are more unilaterally despised than any other computer company today, perhaps in the last ten years.

    QED, a website would have been a redundant waste of the precious little money they have left.

  50. or too much money by standing_still · · Score: 1

    Or it could be that the new website cost too much for the small bank they have.

  51. Re:Perhaps occasional lying is better than constan by swillden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They would probably spend more time astroturfing and fighting off the "bad" posts than they would "spreading the truth".

    Well, they said in their initial announcement that they wouldn't allow comments, so that wouldn't have been a problem.

    do they really want to have a site that lies constantly? Wouldn't that just be more fodder for those on the pro-Linux side?

    This, I think, is the crux of the matter. Assuming they ever really planned to do this (it may have just been a PR stunt designed to help their stock out for a short while), I think they probably realized they had a problem when they started trying to decide exactly what to put up, and where they were going to get it from.

    Some of their options were:

    • Misleading information that wasn't actually wrong, just carefully selected or out of date. Older court filings and press releases, for example. The problem with that, of course, is that the Groklawyers would have been all over it, dissecting it minutely to both de-FUD it -- PJ would probably have set up a page specifically to fill in the gaps -- and to analyze SCO's thinking, motivation and legal and PR strategies by what they chose to put up. That plan would likely make SCO look bad.
    • Baseless claims, probably with a few complete whoppers mixed in, but with no actual evidence, since they don't seem to have any that they can go public with (or any at all, more likely). Again, the Groklawyers would have trashed this soundly, making SCO look very bad.
    • Up-to-date and accurate information, like the court filings, depositions, etc. There really wouldn't be anything to criticize about this approach, but it's very doubtful that they could do it without coming off as a poor imitation of Groklaw's excellent archives. If they just pulled the content from Groklaw, they'd look really dumb and if they didn't they'd have a lot of work to do just to provide scanned versions of all of the documents, much less nicely-formatted text/html! They don't have Groklaw's army of volunteer court-runners, document scanners and transcribers. Not to mention the fact that the truth as reflected in all of the court filings is not very flattering to SCO's position.

    I think (still assuming they ever intended to do this) that they started trying to figure out what they could put up that would be legally safe (no libel, etc.), helpful to their image and not make them look like a poor Groklaw imitation, and they came up empty.

    Oh, two other potential problems with pulling the material from Groklaw just occurred to me: First it might open them up to charges of copyright infringement. Although the court documents are public domain, any formatting is copyrighted. PJ licenses everything under a creative commons license that does not permit commercial use, so using Groklaw's stuff could land them in yet another court case. Second, it would definitely open them up to more criticism; they're accusing others of "stealing" their IP and talking a great deal about the sanctity of IP and the importance of honoring it, so it would look really bad for them to be accused of "stealing" from Groklaw.

    Oh, one more problem: It's a bad idea to speak in public about ongoing court cases. Thanks to SCO's regular violation of this bit of wisdom, Red Hat, Novell and IBM have been able to construct their recent filings with large doses of SCO words, mixed with a bit of explanatory text. SCO has said so much to screw themselves that the attorneys on the other side were probably more excited about this new source of material than anyone. I'm sure the lawyers told Darl and co. yet again that they should really keep their mouths shut. SCO obviously isn't inclined to listen to such advice, but maybe they caved this time, based on all of the other problems.

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  52. Re:Perhaps occasional lying is better than constan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IIRC, SCO weren't going to permit posting.

    That's blatently untrue! SCO was going to permit the general public* to post,

    * General public limited to paid shill pro-Microsoft trade rag journalists, SCO penny stock market makers, and will be moderated by SCO chief publicist Maureen O'Gara.

  53. Re:Perhaps occasional lying is better than constan by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Fernandes cited "legal and management concerns about the content of the website"
    The lawyers must have finally beat some sense into the management at SCO. What would this gain them? Nothing. What would it do? provide more material for Slashdot to bash SCO over the head with. More material for IBMs lawyers to bash SCO over the head with. And more bills for SCO to pay to have there lawyers review everything they post to make sure it didn't do more harm than good.
    What probably happened is they showed some of the first information that they wanted to post to the lawyers. And after the lawyers edited it all was left was the SCO logo and pictures of the SCO Christmas party.

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  54. What about the Indians? by ebooher · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While we have all joined each other in loud, hearty guffaws at the rate at which SCO as a company has driven itself to hell without aid of handbasket, I must take a moment for an aside.

    According to the SCO website, they are still attempting to deliver a UNIXWare(R) product. This means that they *must* still have technically savvy folks working for them. Slaving over a hot pentium all day to cook us up some UNIXWare(R) goodness. How do they find the strength to get up in the morning and make the drive to work? For that matter, how does Darl McBride? The writing has been on the wall for quite a while now. How many of them are just hanging in, hoping for a long enough tenure with the company to get *something* out of all their hard work?

    This only causes to reenforce in my mind an earlier (albeit drunken) revelation I had about the truths of the online community that is /. I am sorely tempted to register a holding company, some Corporation designed to hold stock. I know there are legal Corp Classes that are allowed to do such things. Get everyone on every online forum I can find to be shareholders of the Holding Company and use all share money to outright purchase SCO and end this once and for all.

    I mean, they do have *some* validity to the claim that they own UNIX(R) Source. I'm not quite sure how much they truly own lock/stock. But what happens when their bubble *does* bust? We all know it's coming, we all know it's going to happen. Think that which is the UNIX(R) Source will suddenly become automagically opened?

    Most likely Microsoft or some other non open friendly giant will swoop in at the last minute and purchase up what remains of the UNIX(R) Source so that it will forever remain in a corporate collective somewhere. If it is Microsoft, they would probably begin the litigation anew. After they ran patents for everything and anything that looked like it might clear the US Patent Office in favor of the new owners.

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    1. Re:What about the Indians? by ZorbaTHut · · Score: 1

      Except that Microsoft isn't stupid, and they realize that SCO's case holds absolutely zero merit.

      Although I'd love to see Microsoft and IBM battle it out. It'd be like Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla. We'd have to evacuate Tokyo, of course, but the movie sales alone would make it profitable.

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    2. Re:What about the Indians? by antiMStroll · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm not sure what relevence the ownership of Unix really is. Linux is not Unix and doesn't appear to contain any closed Unix code. SCO's claim revolves around stolen code, a claim backed by arguably the most famous legal firm in the US and still it goes nowhere. Microsoft 'buying' Unix and taking up the baton only exposes them to further accusations of anti-competitive practices and pits them directly against IBM. My guess is if MS really is behind this they'll find other ways to do Linux damage and let SCO quickly fade away.

  55. Sounds a bit like MACBETH by artifex2004 · · Score: 1

    You know, that SCOttish play?

    "Aahhhhh! Hot potato, off his drawers, pluck to make amends. Aaahh!"

  56. Class action? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SCO executives decided to launch a website of their own, devoted to giving their side of the argument. It should have gone live on 1 November - yesterday.

    And now they change plans? Stock plummets on the news? I smell class action opportunity.

    I can see the massmails now: Do you own Microsoft or SCO stock? Have you been deprived of rightful Linux monopoly profits due to management incompetence? Has someone you love died or been injured by a heart attack or stroke after hearing news of SCO's financial mismanagement? YOU COULD BE ENTITLED TO MONEY!

  57. SCO press releases by mobiGeek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Has anyone noticed an absolute lack of "SCO headlines" since May? http://www.sco.com/company/news/ Really wicked change in PR-direction, is it not?

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  58. it may never happen at all because of legal by frovingslosh · · Score: 4, Funny
    it may never happen at all because of "legal and management concerns".

    Makes sense. I expect the lawyers and management pointed out that SCO would certainly never say anything about someone else that was not 100% true, and a program of wild accusations would be unseemly for a respected member of the community.

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  59. Ooooh... I see now. by Minwee · · Score: 1

    Here I was expecting a web site which would explain how SCO was giving up on Linux.

    The problem with the English language is that it doesn't have a word for ambiguous.

  60. well, now the company looks like it's given up.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After loading FrontPage, they couldn't figure out how to use the darn thing...

  61. Die Sco Die by phoning · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Die Sco Die

  62. Not too surprising for me. by Robotron2084 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was actually emailed by a sco representative who wanted to link to one of my animations on their website. Here's most of it:
    -----------------
    We are putting a site together that will go live on November 1 and have a link on the site called "Just for Fun."

    We would like to link to your site to give people access to "Steve the Linux Super Villian." It's absolutely hilarious and we would love to profile that on this section of the site, just to show people that we have a sense of humor.

    May we have your permission to link to your site from our site?
    -----------------
    To which I replied:

    ABSOLUTELY, WITHOUT A DOUBT, NO.

    Obviously they didn't notice my Penguin Blood Ninja FiaSCO animation.

    I'm not too surprised by today's news!

    1. Re:Not too surprising for me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Duh. Say "Sure" and then replace the former with the later....

    2. Re:Not too surprising for me. by kurokaze · · Score: 1

      at least they asked. I'll give them that much credit.

    3. Re:Not too surprising for me. by EllynGeek · · Score: 1

      Since when does anyone need permission to post a link?

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    4. Re:Not too surprising for me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I was thinking you could redirect anyone referred by SCO's page to a ... cruder ... image. It's *almost* a legitimate use for that nasty goatse image...

  63. SCO had to shut up. IBM was quoting them. by Animats · · Score: 3, Interesting
    SCO's output of over-the-top press releases stopped about the time IBM started quoting them in court filings. It looks bad to the judge when the plaintiff is making public statements that contradict what they're saying in their court filings. And SCO definitely did.

    Over on the stock front, SCOX is at $2.93 today, continuing the long, slow slide of the last year. Since July, the price decline has been almost a straight line on a linear scale. The market cap seems to be tracking how much cash SCO has left, which means the market is valuing SCO's UNIX rights at zero.

    1. Re:SCO had to shut up. IBM was quoting them. by Benanov · · Score: 1

      Take a look at the five-year graph for that stock, because that's definitely more entertaining. ;)

  64. http://karatebob.com is an SCO web site. by r39525 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    What a strange thing. Check out these two web sites:
    http://karatebob.com
    http://www.karatebob .com/main.html

    The first is an SCO web site and the second is some guy with a minimal Slackware-friendly site.

  65. Has anybody read the article? by Herschel+Cohen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The content is essentially: the web site may never be activated due to management and legal issues. The spokesperson refused to supply either the specific reasons or flatly state the site will never open.

    So much speculation and comments on so little substance. Indeed, you need a different headline on this story.

  66. scoinfo.com == NOinfo.com by fanatic · · Score: 1

    Just like their court case.

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  67. Die b.i.t.c.h ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Die b.i.t.c.h !

  68. Re:Perhaps occasional lying is better than constan by enormouspenis · · Score: 1, Funny

    My understanding is that they had two working business models: 1)Allow posting for a few weeks and then sue all the posters 2)Threaten to sue and shut down the entire internet if no one posted Internal infighting shut the whole plan down.

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  69. Babelfish translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Die Sco Die

    The SCO those

  70. Freelance contractors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They probably have freelance contractors working on the code nowadays. These guys will be paid more than a permie employee but of course will not have a future career in the company to rely on (or to be saddled with :-)

    Some contractors I know don't care too much about politics and, as long as the money is right, will code for anyone. Even SCO.

    Would you work for SCO, given $100 per hour? Don't tell me you wouldn't think about it!

  71. Cut the grass by siskbc · · Score: 1
    Good one! Groklaw allows posts from the public? Uhm, no. Groklaw deletes any post that does not (1) cast SCO in the worst possible light; and (2) kiss PJ's ass.

    After that Linux insurance scam she ran with her employer, OSRM, I don't know how anyone trusts her or her site.

    Nice turf, Darl!

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  72. SCO inadvertently promotes Groklaw by StLawrence · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's hard to believe that anyone bothered to carry SCO's story
    about their alternative website, but it certainly had the effect
    of promoting Groklaw, which is probably not what SCO had
    in mind. Another SCO backfire, with Maureen's help. What
    a bunch of idiots...

  73. Reminds me of credits in Monty Python... by anakin357 · · Score: 1

    We apologise for the fault in the subtitles.
    Those responsible have been sacked.

    We apologise again for the fault in the subtitles.
    Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked.

    The directors of the firm hired to continue the credits after the other people had been sacked, wish it to be known that they have just been sacked.

    Just replace "subtitles" with "SCO Lawsuit."

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  74. Heh, funny. by Baloo+Ursidae · · Score: 2, Interesting
    "legal and management concerns"

    You mean other than not owning Linux and having no case, right? Cause that didn't stop SCO before...

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    1. Re:Heh, funny. by mink · · Score: 1

      you forgot Pol^H^H^H C++, they own that too according to Darl.

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    2. Re:Heh, funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You mean other than not owning Linux and having no case, right?"

      We mostly meant the libel/slander laws. Apparently if we actually put stuff on a website, it is harder to call the interviewer a liar when we get sued.

      Damn those laws restricting my first amendment right to lie! They're as unamerican as people writing software for free. Damn communists ruining the country.

      Darl

  75. Darl/Novell (his roots) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember Digital Research? Look it up you newbies!
    Darl single handed killed what was good at DR, even after losing the desktop war, there was multi-user DOS, and a desktop realtime OS, Flexos.

    The European market was hot on DR and many Americans also saw the value in a multi-user DOS system.

    Darl, is basically a vampire, IMHO, and I hope this puts a stake in is heart and sends him back to Utah where his Morman friends can go on a mission for him and pray he enters whatever heaven they believe in, cuz in the real world he belongs in the deepest, hotest part of hell, again IMHO.

  76. They already got a site, yo by idiotnot · · Score: 1
  77. SCO Refraining from Lying to Us? What's up? by Greyfox · · Score: 1
    I figure only 2 things could have happened:

    Hypothesis 1: Someone in legal said that someone could potentially be held personally accountable for any slander on the site, they couldn't find anyone in the company stupid enough to step into the line of fire.

    Hypothesis 2: Someone in legal realized that a site with enough "spin" to make it useful would have to print quite a lot of outright lies, putting up a nice big target for a SEC "Shareholder Fraud" investigation.

    Of course, IANAL so I don't know feasible either of these hypotheses are.

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  78. Re:Perhaps occasional lying is better than constan by Penguinshit · · Score: 1


    I think this confirms that they were unsuccessful in recruiting Ari Fleischer.

  79. Ha Ha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I said Ha Ha

  80. SCO ??? by Hobberdome · · Score: 1

    AGAIN .... Where's my pitchfork?

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  81. Re:Perhaps occasional lying is better than constan by hunterx11 · · Score: 1

    I think a better choice for them would be Saeed al-Sahaf.

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  82. no morals thing. by twitter · · Score: 1
    That's a good question, but what I wonder about are your claims of SCO executing Denial of Service attacks.

    Astroturf is a form of DoS. It disrupts a real community by wasting it's resources and diluting their actual conversations. There's a thin line between that and other stuff, such as crap flooding, harassment, and offensive posts. People who do one have the morals to do both. Catching them is not my job, but sooner or later one of the bigger sources of garbage here is going to be proved to be some kind of M$ paid flunky outfit like SCO.

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    1. Re:no morals thing. by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      The best way to fight FUD and spin is, quite simply, with facts. To say that Astroturfing is a form of DoS is twisting the definition to suit your purposes, and is putting a spin on it. Why not use the truth instead of resorting to such tactics? Are you running for office or something?

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  83. SCO now stands for... by txag98 · · Score: 1

    Site Currently Off?

  84. Happy now? No. Later, yes! by chadjg · · Score: 1

    I'd be willing to bet my lunch money that at least one person working at SCO is quietly preparing to write a book and/or squeal on network television. Think about it, how many people do you know are totally and completely, hard core, Zen-like, and totally uninterested in money? Sure, it would be a bit scary and depressing, but I think a number of people would pay for an insider's view of the meltdown. Futhermore, I wouldn't doubt it if the said author-to-be is carefully stashing documents and other fun evidence away. He or she probably has a bunch of USB flash drives wrapped in plastic baggies and hidden in the toilet tanks. If the person is smart and waits a couple of years to publish, and can prove every single accusation or unflattering remark, they should be golden. They will have to be a servile dog for a while, and they will be able to tell nobody, but it could work. The prospect of a big hunk o'change could brighten the mood. Not that the person would be trusted ever again.

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  85. Irony by FusionDragon2099 · · Score: 0

    SCO was Caldera.
    Smoke comes out of a caldera.
    SCO is blowing smoke out their ass. Coincidence?

  86. Not that I'd bother to read it. by twitter · · Score: 1
    They already have a website where they blither all they want. Nothing real or factual, of course.

    For current information about SCO's suit against IBM, please visit www.sco.com/ibmlawsuit, and about SCO's suit against Novell, please visit www.sco.com/novell."

    They have one really nice server. Why would they need another? It's not like they have anything new to say.

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  87. I call Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good one! Groklaw allows posts from the public? Uhm, no. Groklaw deletes any post that does not (1) cast SCO in the worst possible light; and (2) kiss PJ's ass.

    After that Linux insurance scam she ran with her employer, OSRM, I don't know how anyone trusts her or her site.


    Bullshit. I'm a critic of Groklaw and PJ, and you totally mischaracterize Groklaw and slander PJ with your wild accusations.

    Here's the deal. I can disagree with PJs opinions, and still find the presentation of the news to be trustworthy. As I'm not a complete idiot, I can filter the bias quite easily.

    I've complained about the deletion of the posts in the past; now I just don't participate in that part of Groklaw.

    Anyway, judging by your wild accusation, I think you must be Merkey. I'm posting anonymously, because if that's the case, I don't want to have a well known internet sociopath be aware of my existence.

  88. SCO quiet? by twitter · · Score: 1
    if you have any sense, you just stay down

    SCO clearly has no sense.

    they believed that in this overly intellectual property-conscious land, they would get sympathy, but if so, that was a miscalculation.

    Microsoft paid them to steal other people's work and try to make free softare look like a legal pain. The attempt was recognized for what it was and the actors for who they are. They are liars and theives and few people have sympathy for that.

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  89. Re:Perhaps occasional lying is better than constan by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

    Ever notice that you never see Ari and Saeed together? Coincidence? I think not.

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  90. In other news... by serutan · · Score: 1

    SCO chief Darl McBride broke down in tears today and sobbed to reporters, "I just want people to like me."

  91. Re:Perhaps occasional lying is better than constan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you going to stop burning crosses on non-white folk's yards?

  92. Just like... by jack_csk · · Score: 1

    you would have to sign an NDA or pay $699 if you visit prosco.net, which their lawyers eventually found it infesible.

  93. Groklaw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How does Groklaw make a go of it financially? They're forever pouring over legal documents and the like for our benifit, and running a website is a labour of love, definetely not lucrative by any stretch...

    I say we should all cough up a donation to these guys :)