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US Army Testing Robots with Shotguns

Darren writes "The US Army is testing robots armed with shotguns. The robots are called Packbots and have already seen some action in Iraq. It also has chemical sensors that detect nuclear, biological, and chemical contaminants. Maybe I've seen a few too many bad sci-fi movies, but robots with shotguns scare me."

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  1. Dupe? Old? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Haven't we already covered the packbots and their shotgun plug-ins enough? This is pretty old news.

  2. Well... by cplusplus · · Score: 5, Funny

    So much for the three laws of robotics.

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    1. Re:Well... by Agent+Green · · Score: 5, Funny

      Three? I think these five would go well:

      1.) Serve the public trust.
      2.) Protect the innocent.
      3.) Uphold the law.
      4.) ??
      5.) Profit?

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    2. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nah, they just modify it a bit. The law is therefore known as the Bush-Ashcroft Law of Robotics:

      1. A robot may not injure a freedom-loving and Jesus-praising Republican or, through inaction, allow a corporate-loving or anti-abortion Republican to come to harm.

      2. A robot must obey orders given it gun-loving and oil-drilling Republican except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

      3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law and the contract is given to Haliburton.

      4. (Secret Directive) A robot is allowed to kill other robots opposed to the Bush-Ashcroft Law of Robotics.

    3. Re:Well... by Rei · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The thing is... our troops have a hard enough time *in person* identifying friend from foe. Now we're going to have robots (even if there are people remotely operating them) do it? I mean, for god's sake, aren't we killing enough civilians already?

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    4. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Compassionate conservatives believe that killing is wrong, and thus will do everything in their power to protect the unborn WHITE American child. Oh, they also believe in killing as many innocent people in Iraq as possible. I see no conflict.

    5. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That comment may have been modded down as "flamebait," but it's actually very true and insightful. Think about it for a second...how can an administration be both anti-abortion and pro-clusterbombs at the same time? Anyone who thinks clusterbombs only kill "enemy combatants" needs a serious whack with a board of education.

      Don't worry slashdotians, I fully expect this to be modded down as either offtopic, flamebait, or troll soon enough, so don't get your panties in a bunch, mmkay?

    6. Re:Well... by jpop32 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Saddam would have killed 2X the the number that have been killed this year just for the sake of repression.

      Do you have _any_, and I mean _ANY_ evidence to back this claim up? I can provide you with one side of the equation. More than 100k people have died since the begining of the US invasion on Iraq, as a consequence of that invasion. Here's my source: New scientist.

      Can you point us where it says that Saddam used to kill some 200-300k annually? Or were you just pulling the '2X' out of your ass, because 'we all know he was a murderous tyrant'?

      The Iraqis as a people are much better off this year.

      Yeah, right. +1, Insightful.

  3. Now we might have to obey when the great one says; by adolfojp · · Score: 5, Funny

    "kiss my shiny metal ass"

    cheers,

    Adolfo

  4. Re:New NRA slogan by whiteranger99x · · Score: 5, Funny

    More like...

    "Guns don't kill people, mecha-manical robots do!!" ;)

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  5. Re:Die for a Robot by Stevyn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now that's just a huge fallacy.

    Gore has repeatedly stated that he would have thrown the terrorists in a lock box. The key to the lock box would also be safely kept away in another lock box.

  6. Robots with shotguns have been around a long time by deadsquid · · Score: 5, Informative
    Bomb disposal units have used devices like this for quite some time. The shotgun is usually used to detonate (suspected) explosives/explosive devices (some things don't react to . It's just a little safer than sending a human in to do it (except for the robot, of course).

    The arms the shotguns are attached to tend to move pretty slowly, and using them against live combatants would not be the simplist task. I think the author of the article was looking to add a little more sauce than necessary. These things are most likely being used to go into hazardous situations to collect information and handle volatile/dangerous substances/objects.

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  7. Re:New NRA slogan by yali · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't worry about the humans. It's the sharks with lasers who are your true enemies.

  8. Re:DIE DIE by arose · · Score: 5, Funny
    Thats not even an honorable death, dying from a robot?
    Youe looking at it wrong: Died heroically debuging.
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  9. Re:Robots with shotguns scare me by Martin+Blank · · Score: 5, Informative

    These aren't nearly the first robots carrying shotguns. Bomb-disposal robots used by police bomb squads have used shotguns for several years. They're usually used for shooting locks to allow the robot to open doors to get to where the bomb is. I suppose the shotgun could alternately be used to detonate the bomb, though that would be a very expensive use since the robot would likely be destroyed in the blast.

    All of these robots are remote-controlled. This is no different in concept from arming a Predator RPV with missiles. You're providing a mechanical extension of a human operator the capacity to do a specific job.

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  10. Re:New NRA slogan by 13Echo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Those are "frickin' lasers", if you wish to be exact.

  11. spammer by ginotech · · Score: 5, Interesting

    the guy that wrote this article, which was linked to from one of the original links is president and CEO of a well known email marketing software company. In other words, it was written by a SPAMMER. http://www.arialsoftware.com/

  12. Re:Well...Not so simple by Herschel+Cohen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Look up an article about the U.S. Marines being cut to pieces by the U.S. Air Force while taking enemy fire (NYT). Messages were sent to the AF pilots to cease, but they continued to attack. I guess they were having to much fun. [That is not completely my snide observation.]

    I bring this up because, the marines have a unique vehicle that should have been recognizable from the air. Moreover, this is a repeat of experiences of the first Gulf War. Supposedly these problems were solved. However, those among the honored dead are in that state due to persistent screwups. If saying it isn't so suffices for you, then you are totally misinformed or are a true believer.

    We have real problems that robots alone are not going to solve. When you have idiots at the controls at the very highest levels and a media that repeats their stupid assertions. How can they ever recognize they have created a situation that can only progressively worse? Hitting the right target is not easy particularly when your enemy understands you better than we them. It appears to me we have a prescription for disaster. This is spoken by a person that believed that the Iraq adventure could possibly be successful and benefical to the Iraqi populous.

    If ignorance is your guide it is all to easy to repeatedly hit the wrong targets whether by remote control, robotic or in person. That's where we are now.

  13. Does ANYBODY read TFA anymore? by Len+Budney · · Score: 5, Informative

    If they did, they'd discover that the article is actually an excerpt of a larger article. THAT FA was written by a nutritionist/fitness guy, with a semi-nude picture of himself and his sixpack at the end of the article.

    If you try to find HIS source, good luck! There are no links to credible sources on that page.

    In other words, nothing to see here. This is not a credible source; it's an anti-war rant.

    ...not to mention the fact that the last thing you'd install on a pacbot is a pump action shotgun, which would require a little robotic arm to work the pump. If the story were remotely plausible, it would have selected a sensible semi-automatic shotgun, not a pump.

    Len.

  14. Re:New NRA slogan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny


    So what you're saying is that you're the one who will be welcoming our new humorless moderator overlords?