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Stargate SG-1 & Atlantis Renewed

scifi451 writes "Both Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis have been renewed for another season, 9th and 2nd respectively. All of the key cast members are coming back for Atlantis, where as SG-1 stars are in negotiations, with Amanda Tapping expecting a baby in March right as filming begins. Also Richard Dean Anderson might look for an even further reduced role in the show. More news can be found here: Gateworld & Scifi-Wire"

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  1. To quote Teal'c by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Indeed. This is a cause for much celebration.

    1. Re:To quote Teal'c by Kethinov · · Score: 2, Funny

      Jaffa cree!

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    2. Re:To quote Teal'c by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      And to quote Daniel:

      Maktel shcree lotak meta setak... Oz.

    3. Re:To quote Teal'c by Johnny318 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Will there be cake?

    4. Re:To quote Teal'c by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 3, Funny

      Indeed. This is a cause for much celebration.

      Dude, you forgot the eyebrow. It just doesn't work without the eyebrow.

    5. Re:To quote Teal'c by da3dAlus · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, but O'neill says there will be pie.

      Urgo: "I want to live. I want to experience the universe and I want to eat pie!"
      Jack: "Who doesn't??"

      Teal'c: "I have read of a place where humans do battle in a ring of jello"
      Jack: "Call Daniel."

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  2. Richard Dean Anderson has a reduced role? by Xpilot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Will he disappear for most of the season? You know, be stranded on some strange world without a stargate, until he builds one out of bamboo, chewing gum and duct tape with his trusty Swiss Army knife...oh, wrong series.

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    1. Re:Richard Dean Anderson has a reduced role? by metlin · · Score: 5, Funny



      Nah, Daniel would just get himself killed. Just like the old times.

    2. Re:Richard Dean Anderson has a reduced role? by miltimj · · Score: 2, Informative

      Speaking of MacGyver (okay, it was inferred not spoken)... I was very pleasantly surprised to see that it will be released on DVD beginning in January!

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    3. Re:Richard Dean Anderson has a reduced role? by da3dAlus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You have to love how they work in the quotes though, even from the first episodes:

      Sam Carter: It took us fifteen years and three supercomputers to MacGyver a way to power the gate.

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  3. All I have to say is: by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 4, Insightful
    w00t!

    I just hope the main cast is back, even if characters, like Jack, are reduced in screentime. SG-1 isn't SG-1 without... SG-1...

    1. Re:All I have to say is: by wertarbyte · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I just hope the main cast is back, even if characters, like Jack, are reduced in screentime. SG-1 isn't SG-1 without... SG-1...

      In my opionion, SG1 has lost much of its appeal with O'Neill becoming brigadier general. It's just not the same anymore. Stargate-Atlantis has the advantage for bringing fresh new ideas (and a fresh new cast) the the concept of the series

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    2. Re:All I have to say is: by T-Kir · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Even though RDA (hoho, we need a Recommended Daily Amount of Richard Dean Anderson in SG1) had a reduced schedule for season 8, I feel he has had a much better presence since the promotion... mind that may be due in part that all his filming is done on the main set.

      Even if there are cast changes for season 9, I think the Stargate series has developed such a strong mythology and sheer amount of storylines that it could keep goign for a while longer. Plus, I'm extra happy that they aren't permenantly stranding the Atlantis team... and looking forward to seeing the Daedalus and Atlantis showdown with the Wraith hive ships. w00t! indeed! :-)

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    3. Re:All I have to say is: by Wylfing · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Stargate-Atlantis has the advantage for bringing fresh new ideas (and a fresh new cast) the the concept of the series

      I enjoy Atlantis quite a bit. However, I don't feel like they have achieved the character depth of SG-1. The four SG-1 characters all carry pain, which makes them interesting to begin with, but what is fascinating about them is their pain is connected -- they've hurt and healed each other. Example: Daniel carries the with him the loss his wife, but what's worse is that she was ultimately killed by Teal'c, which adds betrayal. Killer lines:

      TEAL'C - Is there not some form of human ritual by which I can ask your fogiveness?

      DANIEL - No.

      Their relationship does heal over time, but there is always something between them in the background. That is an astonishingly complex character relationship for a science fiction series. All four of those characters are interconnected in similar ways. There's some tension between the Atlantis characters, but I'm waiting for something more, er, painful between them before it gets up to the level of SG-1.

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    4. Re:All I have to say is: by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah- but it will happen after time. After all- the only character with pain in the original Stargate Movie was Jack O'Neil- fresh from the death of his son, ready to blow up himself with a nuclear weapon to prevent the Gua'uld from coming to Earth.

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    5. Re:All I have to say is: by ravingsanity · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agree. When I saw the episode where Hammond retired and O'Neill got his promotion, I thought the show would be losing a significant amount of its character and that it was the beginning of the end. Off-world missions/episodes just aren't the same without O'Neill along.

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  4. Slashdot ruined this for me by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 2, Funny

    A while back someone on slashdot pointed out to me that Colonel O'neal (sp?) was MacGuyver. I can no longer watch SG-1 with a straight face. I'm always waiting for him to create an event horizon or temporary wormhole out of a bubblegum wrapper or something.

    1. Re:Slashdot ruined this for me by Unkle · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I can no longer watch SG-1 with a straight face.

      You mean you could before? Andersen's O'neal is much different than Kurt Russel's in the origional movie. He is much, MUCH funnier, while Russel was more serious (But, of course, in the movie O'neal had just lost his son...). The show would not be the same without him.

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    2. Re:Slashdot ruined this for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      There's an outtake from the first season where O'Neill and Carter are trapped in the Antarctic with a broken Stargate which features Carter going into a rant about being trapped with MacGyver and how he should be able to make a working gate.

      In the pilot, Carter also describes how they made their own dialing device and says they "MacGyvered it."

    3. Re:Slashdot ruined this for me by paRcat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So many people think they're actually funny rehashing a joke that wasn't funny to begin with.

      Anyway, if you'd actually sit down and watch the show, you might be surprised that RDA can in fact be something other than the 80's TV show. He's really an amazing actor... to the tune that I don't believe the show would ever be as good without him. Of course, he's one of the producers too, so the show may not even BE without him. :)

    4. Re:Slashdot ruined this for me by Zach+Garner · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In the episode "Secrets", Col. O'Neill tells a reporter "That's O'Neill, with two L's. There's another Colonel O'Neil with one L. He has no sense of humor." In the feature film Stargate (1994), the lead character, whose name was spelled with one L, was played by 'Kurt Russel' and was a much more humorless character. [link]

    5. Re:Slashdot ruined this for me by eht · · Score: 2, Informative

      Two L's
      Kurt Russell .... Col. Jonathan 'Jack' O'Neil
      Richard Dean Anderson .... Col./Gen. Jack O'Neill

      people often confuse one guy for the other...

      something O'Neill (Anderson) says in one of the episodes.

    6. Re:Slashdot ruined this for me by bmongar · · Score: 2, Funny

      Mmmm near, far, near, far; distance matters not when you use the force.

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    7. Re:Slashdot ruined this for me by Richard_at_work · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How come they both have the same dead son and Daniel Jackson knew O'Neill in the series 1 episode pilot by sight, as well as several others on Abidos? That and a few other things prove they are the same character in the series and the movie, regardless of the inconsistent spelling of the name.

    8. Re:Slashdot ruined this for me by the+gnat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That and a few other things prove they are the same character in the series and the movie, regardless of the inconsistent spelling of the name.

      I think this is the creators poking fun - at the audience or Russell, I'm not sure. It's like the classic DS9 episode where they worked the cast into the original episode "The Trouble With Tribbles." Someone asks Worf why the original series Klingons look so different, and he says "We don't like to talk about it."

      There've been many Slashdot threads trying to explain this, but the answer is really quite simple: it's an in-joke, a nod to all the fans who've been worrying about this for years. Think of it as a shout-out to all the Comic Book Guys of the world. SG1 had another of these in the pilot where they use "MacGyver" as a verb.

      They're just TV shows, there's nothing that dictates that they have to be absolutely 100% consistent over the years, and little throw-aways like this are the writers' way of acknowledging that yes, their internal consistency is sometimes not perfect.

  5. Nooo not SG-1 :( by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From the past few series 8 episodes of SG-1, its really past its prime and struggling to find a decent storyline. The last episode made it painfully obvious what the entire episode was going to be about in the first 5 minutes, and sure enough it was - talk about a filler episode (Teal'c stuck in that gaming chair). I really wish they didnt make another season of it :(

    1. Re:Nooo not SG-1 :( by canwaf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I actually complained about SG1 being renewed too, I think Stargate SG1 needs to be retired. Not much you can really do about it though, they can milk out money for that extra season.

      But onto the subject of 'Avatar' (The episode where Teal'c is stuck in that gaming chair), this episode was created as advertisment for Stargate's new video game. Which made the episode feel cheaper than it was originally. I'm not certain, but the game footage in the episode could possibly have been done through the game engine used in the to be released video game.

    2. Re:Nooo not SG-1 :( by Drachemorder · · Score: 2, Funny
      " what happend to SG-2 SG-3 SG-4 ... 12"

      The other SG teams are the Stargate equivalent of the red-shirt crew members in Star Trek. If you see an SG team other than SG-1 in an episode, you can be pretty sure there are going to be fatalities before the show's over.

  6. Mixed reactions to this by ravenspear · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I love SG-1 (Atlantis is good too) and I'm glad it's coming back, but I hope it doesn't end up going way too long like the X-Files. I've noticed that the production quality has declined somewhat this season. It just feels too routine, there's not much spontaneity in the show anymore. And I don't think it will do better if RDA's role is reduced even further. If they can keep a good show going then it could work, but I'm a bit skeptical at this point.

    1. Re:Mixed reactions to this by The+Angry+Mick · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While I love SG-1, I also feel that the show is slipping noticeably now that Anderson's role has been reduced. He presence is what really made the team feel like a "team". When he's not around, you kinda get the feeling that the others are just out on a beer run for the boss - the missions don't feel as satisfying, and the drama drops somehow.

      What I'd like to see them do, from a plot perspective, is to begin wrapping up the series by tying up all of the loose Goa'uld storylines into a single, massively long story arc that airs over several episodes. Instead of a two-part season finale, how about a seven or ten parter? It'll guarantee ratings as the viewers couldn't afford to miss one episode of the arc (even with Sci-Fi's neverending repeats), and you'd wrap up the series with a bangup sense of accomplishment.

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  7. Smart decision by YetAnotherName · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I only watch either show occasionally (my wife's quite the fanatic), but what I've seen is pretty good, as far as science fiction goes. Acting is definitely above average, Richard Dean Anderson's portrayals as an everyman facing aliens brings a wry grin now and then. Oh, and Amanda Tapping is quite cute, no doubt about that. It's nice that SciFi can make the right decision sometimes. (And sad that they can make the horribly wrong decision other times, c.f. canceling Farscape not so long ago.)

    1. Re:Smart decision by underpar · · Score: 3, Funny

      You know she just watches the show for Daniel Jackson. He's geeky and cute and you can hardly notice the episodes where they try to cover up his rather large belly by making him hold a sweater or wear a huge belt. He's dreamy.

      My husband has accepted my crushes on fictional characters.

    2. Re:Smart decision by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think the best thing about SG-1 is their attitude to technobabble. It seems quite common for writers of similar series' to fill in gaps with long strings of technobabble which anyone with even a moderately scientific background can tell are just nonsense, and try to base the plot on these. Most of the time in SG-1 when this happens, Jack's blank stare or interruption stops them before they get started. One of my favourite lines was from (I think) the first episode of Atlantis, where someone tries to explain something about the stargate and Jack replies with `Well, that was a waste of a perfectly good explanation'.

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    3. Re:Smart decision by lowmagnet · · Score: 2, Informative

      Daughter, Mia Tabitha Shanks, with Lexa Doig, born 13 September 2004.

      And so it begins. This also explains why Brandy Ledford has been on Andromeda, and Lexa is limited to head shots.

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  8. Jumping the Shark? by Rosyna · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm worried that prolonged existence of SG-1 might make it jump the shark. AFAIK, it was never supposed to exist past its 7th season but the ratings that year were so good they scrapped the plans for the movie and made it into that year's season finale (which also explains its awesomeness and why the good Doctor had to die).

    SG-1 and SG:A were never meant to coexist, also why Atlantis was moved to another galaxy. The creators/writers never meant for them to show at the same time and they didn't want the easy way out whenever SG:A had a problem and just get SG-1 to fix it. I think this simultaneous rushing for two shows is also why the first half of each of the most recent seasons sucked compared to season 7.

    1. Re:Jumping the Shark? by pete-classic · · Score: 2, Funny
      good Doctor had to die


      Well, I'm just about to undertake watching all this on DVD.

      Thanks for the spoiler warning, you lone gunman fuck.

      -Peter
    2. Re:Jumping the Shark? by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Funny
      I think SG-1 is going to get better and better myself. The new series adds Ted McGinley as slick, cool, Doctor Wozniak, who accompanies the team on each of their missions.

      They're also adding a dog, Rover, who'll play a kind of "Lassie" character, alerting the team to danger and fetching help when they're in trouble.

      They've got some excellent guest stars lined up for the next season, including N-Sync and J-Lo, Al Gore, Alec Baldwin, Wierd Al, and William Shatner.

      Finally, they've actually worked Tapping's pregnancy into the script. I may be saying too much, but expect a baby to be part of the plotline mid season - with surprising results!

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  9. Re:Woot by PatrickThomson · · Score: 2, Informative

    Aye, the guy is from Scotland but has been working in America for ages, and I can tell you that although the accent sometimes seems strained, it's a nice familiar touch for us Scottish geeks.

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  10. And now... by Atmchicago · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Let a million references to the recent potential discovery of Atlantis ensue.

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  11. Re:Hooray!!! by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 5, Funny

    My wife and I are excited, who's the other guy?

    I don't know, but he might be the reason your wife's so excited

  12. Re:3 fans? by Kethinov · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One thing I always found interesting was how Enterprise is consistently regarded as a failure even though it gets more viewers than Stargate which is considered a success. I guess Star Trek is held up to a higher standard or something.

    That said, I just started watching Stargate a month ago. I blasted through seasons 1 through 7 in that time and I'm just about to start with S1 Atlantis and S8 SG1. I've thoroughly enjoyed the series.

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  13. Atlantis is terrible by visionsofmcskill · · Score: 4, Informative
    Atlantis is the Voyager/Enterprise of Stargate, The show is really terrible. And this isnt even the fourth iteratin of the stargate universe (if you disclude the cartoon and movie).

    Dont get me wrong, i dont expect stars and accolades out of a series which barely discerns itself from the likes of zena/hurcules/Beastmaster in some of its episodes (did these guys share their prop guys/ set designers or what?)

    But for me, the most endearing part of the Stargate series has for themost part been McGyv..Richard's humorfull character. Without Dean, the show just becomes just another crappy lets fight aliens in fantasy planets with cool ancient civilizations based on old earth.

    And Atlantis is pure poo, the characters are all cookie cutter type-casts to the point of stereotyping your viewer audience fan-service, maybe this is what happens when sci-fi channel does..... well just about anything.... but that show is terrible.

    Stargate itself has been pretty damn good (with some notable exceptions ... ergo anyone?) and im glad to see it continue on, but atlantis is in dire need of a total abortion or a complete re-write with some more serious characters who actualy act like a military operation.

    Anyone remember space above and beyond?

    This is why im really happy about the Battlestar galactica series comming this new year... Gritty, realistic, and hopefully... above all else... not more episodal space opera campy bullsh*t.

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    1. Re:Atlantis is terrible by BorgDrone · · Score: 2, Informative

      the characters are all cookie cutter type-casts
      Go watch season 1 of SG-1 again, you'll see the same thing.

      New series need time to deepen the characters, that's why every season has at least a few 'character building' episodes.

    2. Re:Atlantis is terrible by metlin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, SG-1 started off like that but picked up real quick. For instance, they introduced the Nox, the Tollans, the Azhard all in the first season -- _and_ they did it really really well.

      Season 2 was good too, especially some episodes such as the Fifth Race and Tok'Ra -- it wasn't just about fighting aliens, it was being out there and there was something special about humanity's deepest aspirations to be out there, and do cool stuff.

      I somehow find that missing in SG Atlantis.

    3. Re:Atlantis is terrible by YetAnotherAnonymousC · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sadly I must agree with this. I always thought the strength of SG-1 was the characters. Not just O'Neil, but many regular and recurring. Even the scenery-chewing goauld had some individual personality to them. I can't say the same for Atlantis. Those few characters that are even distinguishable tend to be stock types lifted from other sci-fi (genre-not-network) shows.

    4. Re:Atlantis is terrible by CoolCash · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Go back and dust off your season one DVD set of Stargate SG-1. Compare those characters to the characters of today's episodes, completely different. Back then they were the stereotypical, cookie cutter, typecasts. It took a couple of seasons before the actors found their nitch. Also, if you looked back when The Next Generation aired, many of the same people said the same things about that show.

    5. Re:Atlantis is terrible by Viol8 · · Score: 2, Funny

      "when The Next Generation aired, many of the same people said the same things about that show."

      Yeah , and they were right. Stock stereotypes right up to and including the last episode. But then you can say that for every star trek series including the original with its Dashing Captain, Logical 1st Officer, Comic Relief Scotsman, Irascable Doctor and Token Black Woman.

    6. Re:Atlantis is terrible by Richard_at_work · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I dont think they are badly acted, I think they come across as 'real'. None of this acted emotion crap. And the camera work is meant to be like that, its shot in a documentary way, which I kind of like.

    7. Re:Atlantis is terrible by FortranDragon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      [...] worst of all the camera work was done by a trainee they grabbed off the street - half the time the camera is looking at the roof or floor not at the actors!

      That's deliberate. They are using the documentary-ish technique that Firefly had. Kind of a 'what happened? where?' attempt for TV.

      I would say give them more time, but you've indicated that you aren't. YMDV (Your Mileage Did Vary) I try to give a new show a season to work itself out. It takes time for the people involved to see what works and what doesn't. The lead time for production means corrections aren't going to happen in just a few episodes.

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    8. Re:Atlantis is terrible by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I really have trouble taking the Wraiths seriously in Atlantis (and not just from the fact that both they and the Ancient weapon in Antarctica make me feel that one of the writers has been playing Escape Velocity: Nova too much). They supposedly defeated the Ancients 10,000 years ago. Since then, they have had 10,000 years to develop their technology. Let's assume that they sleep for 90% of the time, and that's still 1,000 years. And yet, their ships can still be shot down with a bazooka (even the Gou'ould have better shields than that, although only on slightly larger ships), and they can't get past the Ancients' iris-shield (which I'm fairly sure the less advanced Tollan could do).

      I'm really hoping that these people are going to be revealed to be minions of the `ancient enemy' (Babylon 5, anyone?), because at the moment they seem a lot less impressive than anything in our galaxy. Next to the replicators, they are positively laughable.

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    9. Re:Atlantis is terrible by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      "Let's assume that they sleep for 90% of the time, and that's still 1,000 years."

      Empires fall, people lose interest. Greece was once the center of civilisation. Don't apply your little window of history across the whole universe and enjoy the show.

      Umm, not really sure what you're trying to say here. My point was that even counting their long hibernation cycles they should have had 1,000 years of awake-time to improve their technology. Even if they had done nothing other than sleep, then their tech level should be higher than the Ancients (hence their victory). If they spent any time awake, it should be an even bigger gap.

      "their ships can still be shot down with a bazooka"

      Stinger SAM, but we'll let that one pass for the moment. Have you considered that a significantly more advanced race might not actually use it's shields out of contempt for a preagrarian race?

      Okay, I was using Bazooka in the common usage as shoulder launched rocket projectile. Perhaps I should have been more precise. Yes, they might not be running their shields out of contempt, but this is unlikely, since (if it were the case) they would have activated them when they were fighting the puddle jumper (which had Ancients weapons). Note also the ease with which the puddle jumper destroyed them, in spite of the fact that it was technology made 10,000 years ago by people defeated by (presumably) the wraiths.

      "they can't get past the Ancients' iris-shield (which I'm fairly sure the less advanced Tollan could do)."

      With a titanium iris, not a forcefield, and the inference was that the Tolan were a lot more advanced than the Gou'ould, and roughly on a par with the Nox, which is why the Tolan were wiped out after the contratemps over the warheads. Certainly nobody else apart from the Asgard could create the ground based cannons.

      While the Tolan were highly advanced, they were less advanced than the Ancients in at least one area (contrast their cannons with the system used at Antarctica - one stopped by Anubis' shields, the other goes through them as if they were vacuum). On the other hand, the difference in complexity of travelling through a force field and a lump of titanium is something I have no direct experience with, so I'm willing to concede this point.

      "because at the moment they seem a lot less impressive than anything in our galaxy."

      Well, you wouldn't want them to go and 'pussify the borg' like Star Trek did, would you?

      Personally I think a race that views humans as animals is a tad more realistic than having aliens that simply mimic human nature with cartoon inflated attributes. Certainly the introduction of the Tokrah made the snakeheads slightly more fluffy than they needed to be.

      Don't get me started on the Borg (perfect communist society for frightening capitalists transformed into yet another hierarchical group with slightly more advanced technology). The Gua'ould (sp?) were somewhat too human, but they made a fairly respectable enemy. I'm not sure there is much difference between a race that views humans as hosts and one that views them as food (and personally I'd consider the possibility of having to live for hundreds of years watching someone commit atrocities in my body to be more frightening than someone killing me). Food is also not an entirely compelling motive, since any race with technology that rivals the Ancients must also have the ability to synthesise food indistinguishable from the real thing on a molecular level at a negligible cost. The only reason they would have for hunting humans is that they enjoy hunting. This hardly seems likely - the humans are so far behind them technologically that it's not exactly a challenge - similar to fishing with drift nets in terms of difficulty. This would be more credible if they had teleported to surface and hunted on foot, rather than using semi-random tractor beams.

      A more likely

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    10. Re:Atlantis is terrible by mdfst13 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Have you considered that a significantly more advanced race might not actually use it's shields out of contempt for a preagrarian race?"

      I would say that a better argument is that an advanced race might not actually have shields that are effective against physical weapons. If no one uses physical weapons against them, why would they shield against physical attacks? All their weapons were designed to work against the Ancients, who were presumably well past the need to use physical weapons.

      Notice how the humans are more effective against the replicators than are the Asgard. This is despite the fact that the replicators have incorporated all the tech that the Asgard have. The replicators are still damaged by the guns of the humans while they simply absorb the energy of the personal weapons used by the Asgard and the Goa'uld.

  14. Re:3 fans? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's the difference between cable and broadcast television. Getting a 1.0 rating on cable makes you a decent success. Getting a 1.0 on broadcast makes you the bottom of the barrel.

  15. Re:3 fans? by JPelorat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because Enterprise generates its fanbase from the horny teens who watch in the hopes of seeing some more Vulcan skin. Writing, plot, acting, can all fall by the wayside when softcore TV porn is involved in getting ratings.

    Bad softcore at that, but they don't know that. Nor do they care, apparently.

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  17. Thats good by HyperVerbal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That great that there still going but i still wish there was more Firefly not just the movie coming out. :(

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    1. Re:Thats good by MrPrefect · · Score: 2, Interesting

      damn right, firefly was a great show, but I would rather see a great show cut short, then a great show transformed into a flaming pile of poo..

  18. Fixing SG-1 by Erasmus+Darwin · · Score: 3, Insightful
    What they really need to do is get the SG-1 team back on track in the show. To do this, they need to replace the opening left by Jack and start doing off-world missions again. Too many of the current shows have had them futzing around Earth, giving a "filler episode" feel to almost the entire season.

    As for filling Jack's shoes, a suggestion I liked from another forum was to let Adam Baldwin reprise his role from "Heroes". He'd be good at providing the aggressive, militaristic mentality that'd help keep the same brain vs. brawn balance that the team had before.

  19. Re:Danger - fanboys with points by Dachannien · · Score: 2, Informative
  20. Re:My gf will be happy by mmkkbb · · Score: 2, Funny

    I hear you man.

    My girlfriend fawns over James Spader. She wants to be his secretary :(

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  21. Re:Teal'c and O'Neal were in cahoots in the 80s by peragrin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You want cross over switch to Andromeda. Not only have/are the actors crossing back and forth,

    Daniel Jackson Married Rommie. The reason why Rommie isn't in much of this new season is because their child was born recently.

    I am to busy(lazy) to look up the actual actors names at the moment.

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  22. Re:3 fans? by Dusabre · · Score: 2, Informative

    Enterprise is viewed as a failure because it is an abomination that only gets higher ratings because there are more viewers on its network and trekkies would eat treeble shit if it was labelled "Star Trek". Enterprise is a failure compared to TNG.

    Stargate on the other hand does not have almost forty years of fandom and generations of geeks propping up its numbers. Stargate is a success because its not built on the back of a franchise.

    Don't mention Firefly though...

  23. MacGyver by slapout · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm still waiting for MacGyver to do a guest appearance. :-)

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  24. Re:WTF u talkin' about, Willis? by Rand+Race · · Score: 2, Informative

    That would be Rimmer.

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  25. Re:Amanda Tappings pregnant????? by Ignignot · · Score: 4, Funny

    You fool! What if she has a daughter??? Your dreams are utterly reborn!

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  26. Re:3 fans? by metlin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    TNG was awesome only because of its characters.

    Agreed, it had good storylines too -- but then so does Enterprise, for that matter even (eww) Voyager. But the way the characters handled it was what made it better.

    I mean, I simply love Patrick Stewart's speeches, and the way he handles situations. It's... impeccable. Ditto for Brent Spiner and a lot of other characters.

    The characters in ST:TNG were strong, and they felt real. The characters in Voyager felt ridiculous. Enterprise tries, but sadly they do not have the kinda cast that TNG did.

    I guess that's one of the reasons SG:Atlantis is failing too. While SG-1 had a good cast -- not exemplary by any standards, but good for sure -- SG Atlantis has a mediocre cast. The difference shows.

    And whos' the guy behind the camera of SG:Atlantis? Half the time he's showing the sky and not the faces.

  27. It's not a star gate by seann · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's a far gate.

    It has nothing to do with that syndicated television show, or that really good movie.

    That I haven't seen.

    But it's a good movie.

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  28. Download Every Stargate Episode by bigtallmofo · · Score: 2, Informative

    I hesitate a bit to divulege this on Slashdot... but here goes.

    Fans of Stargate-SG1 and Stargate Atlantis can download every episode ever made via IRC on irc.rizon.net in the channel #stargate-atlantis

    There are at present over 500 users in the channel along with dozens of XDCC and other bots there waiting to serve the files to you.

    Eh, I'm sure this isn't the first time an IRC channel has been /.'d.

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  29. Good. by BoneFlower · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Things are going to heat up in the latter half of this season, but there are still some threads that need tying up. Klorel for one, he needs to be dealt with to fully resolve the Apophis storyline. The Aschen arc was supposed to be three episodes. I also don't see the Replicators being finished up this season. And... Think back to "The Fifth Race". I think it would be a great final episode for O'Neill, Thor, the Nox chick, some Furling, and Oma Desala to meet at Ernests planet, or perhaps the place where O'Neill first downloaded the ancient library, to restore the old alliance and admit humanity.

  30. Re:Renewed!! by BoneFlower · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sci Fi airs each season of Stargate in two chunks, one over the summer and the next several months later when they are done rerunning all the first chunk episodes. So the renewal has nothing to do with whether or not you will see the sequel episode to The Storm.

  31. Re:things that annoy me about SG1 by BoneFlower · · Score: 3, Informative

    "I basically like the show, but I get annoyed by the fact that every body they encounter speaks English. On Star Trek they explain this through their universal translator comm badges or something, but I've never heard of the explanation for SG1. It's like every mission they have to painfully explain that they come from "Earth", but otherwise they have the same names for everything. it's stupid."

    The MGM FAQ explains this. They don't want to spend 15 minutes every episode working through the language barrier, so they ignore it unless its particularly important to that episodes plot. Personally, I'd rather it be ignored than have some sort of universal translator that never has its basis of operation explained.

    "Also, if the gate is there and they've made all sorts of contact with other worlds, why aren't there more aliens wandering around the SGC? and why arent there more earth people permanently relocating to other worlds like Daniel tried to do when he fell in love in the original movie? Wouldn't it be a better show if there was regular travel between different people in different places? How about establishing regular trade between worlds? Stuff like that."

    Most "aliens" are aliens in the earth legal sense- they are human, just born somewhere else. Several have taken up residence on Earth. There have been very few species encountered that are obviously different, and most of them simply have no interest in simply hanging out on Earth. Others, such as the Enkarans, would suffer serious medical problems if they stay on earth more than a few days. Just because humans can survive in their environment doesn't mean they can survive in humans environment- look at Earth species for instance. Humans can survive in the tundra and in the desert. But take a tiger from the deserts of africa and throw him in northern canada, he won't last long. By the same token, a polar bear won't last terribly long in the desert. The main biological advantage of humans is adaptability... we have a body design and mental capacity that allow us to function in a much wider variety of environments than most other species. It is quite possible that this advantage would hold over other sentient species on other planets.

    As for earth people staying offworld, there aren't many earth people who even know of the Stargate, much less have an opportunity to go through it and find a place they want to move to. Col Maybourne an exception...

    "and I think they should resolve and kill off the ancient egyptian stuff once and for all. it's a crutch for the series, it's boring and lame at this point. the threat of the goauld should be reduced in importance and they should do more exploring. the way the series looks, it's like the goauld has a big presence in almost every other planet than earth."

    The reason the Goa'uld are on almost every human planet is referenced constantly... It was the Goa'uld who transported humans to other worlds as slaves in the first place.

  32. Re:Atlantis low points by DavidTC · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The Wraiths are in most of the episodes? Are you even watching the show? We just had the two part mid-season arc about a hurricane that almost destroyed Atlantis, and, in the middle for the evacuation, the Jenii took over. It wasn't about the Wraith at all.

    No Wraith in '38 minutes', no Wraith in 'Hide and Seek', no Wraith in 'Home'...

    That means slightly less than half the episodes could have taken place without the Wraith at all.

    Of the other six, half those just had the Wraith as a long term enemy that had effected society: the Jenii, the 'Don't trust anyone over 25' world, and the world that was poisoning itself and thus the Wraith. It was 'How would the Wraith affect society', not 'Let's go and fight us some Wraith'. You know...the kind of questions science fiction asks?

    One remaining was about a spy, and would have literally worked in a non-scifi enviroment.

    And the other two were the opening of the series, where, duh, they needed to explain the Wraith.

    I have no idea how someone could watch that series and think it was all about the Wraith.

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