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Patrick Volkerding Battles Mystery Illness

sethadam1 writes "Calling all Slashdoctors! Pat Volkerding, maintainer of Slackware Linux, needs your help. This morning, he posted his very detailed account (mirror) of his battle with Actinomyces here on the Slackware FTP server. Patrick has given his blood, sweat, and tears to the open source community for years in Slackware, one of the oldest surviving Linux distributions. If you can, please help!"

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  1. Re:"if you can, please help" by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can start by pulling your head out and clicking on the mirror which works fine for me and probably everybody else that clicked on it. Since that didn't work for you or you didn't see it, read below.

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    Tuesday, November 16, 2004, 10:43

    "Last post?"

    Hi folks. If you're reading this, I thank you. Perhaps you'll have a role
    to play in bringing about the miracle that I desperately need. First, I'd
    like to apologize for the lack of updates lately in Slackware -current and
    stable... I know there are a few outstanding issues that need to be
    addressed. However, I've been too sick to work for a couple of weeks and
    now I am away from my computers and at my parents' house in Fargo, North
    Dakota where my only online access is through an AOL dialup. I have told
    only a select few people about what's going on thinking that I did not want
    the internet at large to know about this, that I'd get it taken care of
    and get back on track without a major problem. Now, I'm hoping that this
    will get seen by a lot of people and that if it hits Slashdot that some
    kind medical geek will help save my life.

    I've generally been a pretty healthy guy. Nobody I know would characterize
    me as a hypochondriac by any stretch, so when I raise an alarm it tends to
    be for real. I'm going to give a timeline and run through all the
    symptoms I've had (so if that sort of thing grosses you out, you can stop
    reading right now). For the rest of you, here goes. This is going to be
    long, but hopefully somebody who can help will read it...

    This all began quite some time ago, perhaps as long ago as May of 2001.
    I was preparing Slackware 8.0 for release and working really hard. A pain
    developed in my shoulder, and (too busy to do anything about it right
    away) I ignored it and continued to keep working. It got to be pretty
    bad and one afternoon in early June I was rushed to the emergency room
    at a hospital in Concord, California. I was sweating, feverish, with a
    weak pulse of around 50, experiencing chills and seeming to be on the
    verge of passing out. The doctor who saw me did a chest X-ray and didn't
    think it was too unusual. I was told it was probably bronchitis and was
    sent home with a presription for ciprofloxacin which mostly cleared up
    the problem. Still the pain in my shoulder seemed to vaguely remain.
    By mid October of 2001, I was in bad shape again. My parents asked me
    what I wanted for my birthday and I told them some more Cipro. They
    found someone who was able to help me out with a 60 day supply (no small
    task as this was right after the infamous Anthrax mailings when all the
    newspapers were running articles about Cipro and people were trying to
    horde it). I finished the two month course of antibiotics and felt
    better. Not perfect, but significantly improved. I chalked the events
    of 2001 up to stress, but in retrospect I am not so sure. I had
    similar problems in 2002 and 2003 that were also knocked back with some
    antibiotics, but the pain in my left upper back (and some kind of
    "presence" there) never did fully clear up. Tests for TB came back
    negative.

    Fast forward to May of this year. I found myself complaining about "my
    usual pain", as I had started to call it, more and more. I was starting
    to wonder if I was even going to be able to make my annual camping trip
    out in western New York state at the beginning of July, but I did go.
    I figured the sun and a little exercise would do me some good, and I
    did feel a little less like I was "fixin' to die," but upon my return
    to California things started to do downhill for me again. This whole
    time I was coughing up some strange stuff. Some of it was white and
    reminded me of dental plaque. In spite of being a dentist's son I've
    never had the best oral hygiene

  2. Re:I know wikipedia is hip and all by shawn(at)fsu · · Score: 4, Informative

    WebMD didn't have anything that I could find, but a google found this eMedicine
    I am not anything near a Md so this makes no sence to me. But as they say the half of knowledge is knowing where to find knowledge.

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  3. Re:I know wikipedia is hip and all by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 5, Informative

    As per the dude's post, googling for sulfur lung granules works fine.

    The first hit is fine.

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    There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
  4. How To Help: Be an MD. Admit him to a hospital. by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Informative
    > How am I supposed to help?
    >With TFA slashdotted, I don't know exactly what he wants. How do I know if I can help?

    TFA has already been cut-and-pasted into the Slashdot thread. To summarize:

    If you are an infectious disease specialist who can prescribe high doses of antibiotics (presumably penicillin-based, delivered by IV), and/or admit him to a hospital, you're supposed to call him or email him, and that goes double if you have experience treating Actinomycosis.

  5. Slashdot, mirrors, and clarifications by fred87 · · Score: 4, Informative

    - RE those "It's inconsiderate to post this on slashdot":
    "Now, I'm hoping that this will get seen by a lot of people and that if it hits Slashdot that some kind medical geek will help save my life."

    - Mirrors:
    http://uml.axpr.net/
    http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/PAT- NEEDS-YOUR-HELP.txt
    ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-cu rrent/PAT-NEEDS-YOUR-HELP.txt

    - Clarifications:
    --he does not want a help fund - we've asked him.
    --the gpg signature is valid, key is on the slackware 10 disc, and he keeps the private keys on a computer which is not attached to the internet.

  6. Mayo Clinic by agressiv · · Score: 5, Informative

    Being in Fargo, he's only 5 1/2 hours from Rochester, MN, where the Mayo Clinic is. I'm not sure if its warranted, but I've known a few people who have gone there under similar circumstances when all else has failed.

    1. Re:Mayo Clinic by jangobongo · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Mayo Clinic came to my mind too. He should get his doctor in Fargo to contact the Mayo clinic, tell them he has to be seen ASAP and don't take no for an answer or let them put him off.

      In my experience (our family dealt with a rare infectious disease - Kawasaki's - in which I knew more about it than our doctor thanks to the internet), doctors are fascinated by a chance to treat a rare disease that they don't see too often, esp. at a teaching/research hospital. Get going already!

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  7. Re:Get Help Now, Maybe? by AnonymousCohort · · Score: 5, Informative

    From a doctor:

    Thats absolutely correct. He may be a brilliant computer programer but he should not try to be his own physician. By his own admission he has already significantly delayed his care trying to treat himself.

    The signs and symptoms he describes are consistant with pulmonary actinomycosis but there are also a number of other infections and other conditions that could cause this.

    While his own description of 'yellow nodules' is interesting and possibly significant no one has examined any of these nodules and no one has definitively diagnosed him yet.

    There is a good reason his doctor is required to consult an ID specialist before hospitalizing him.

    He should follow this advice, contact the best physicians he knows, and let them decide what he has and how it should be treated.

    If he does turn out to have actinomycosis his prognosis is very good for a complete cure and good recovery. I wish him the best.

  8. Hey folks by volkerdi · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've been getting some mail over this, and most of it is positive stuff that has me feeling better right now. Thanks. :-)

    One thing I'd like to clear up is that I am not now, nor have I ever been self-medicating with Cipro or any other antibiotics. I've always taken them under the advice of and with a prescription from a qualified medical doctor.

    Again, I'm feeling better and hope it continues. Thanks for the well wishes!

    Pat

    1. Re:Hey folks by tickticker · · Score: 4, Informative

      Good to hear you are feeling better.

      The long term IV anti-biotics are no big deal. They give you a PIC line that you can have for over 6 months, and the pump is in a fanny-pack. Almost no schedule interruption except you have to waterproof your arm in the shower. I've had 3 for various infections over the years and you just deal with them then they're over.

      Tickticker

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  9. Re:Get Help Now, Maybe? by sunwukong · · Score: 4, Informative

    Looking at PubMed for "Actinomycosis" brings up a couple hundred papers on this beastie.

    A good portion of these are "post-", i.e., this looks like its easily misdiagnosed/missed.

    The common treatment seems to be: 6-12 months of high levels of penicillin/amoxicillin/ceftriaxone plus surgery to get rid of pseudo-tumour growths.

  10. Similar to Tonsilloliths? by Sygiinu · · Score: 4, Informative
    I'm not an Medical geek, but the "yellow lung granule" sounds to me like it could be a tonsillolith.

    Tonsilloliths are some times called "tonsil stones". I'm aware that he maintains the granule came from the lung, but I'd be interested to examine the throaght and tonsils throughally to eliminate that posibility. I'm also aware that tonsilloliths or similar objects can form much further down than the tonsils.

    I'd be interested in whether the paitent had a history of tonsilitus, ear infection, post nasel drip or other sinus trouble.

    I'd try to find an ENT (Ear nose and throaght) surgen to discuss that with (and if s/he hasn't heard of tonsil stones go somewhere else or take some info from the web). Next stop would be a lung specilist, and someone to investigate the stomach and esophagus.

    Does anyone have an E-mail address where we can contact him if we can't call him by telephone?

  11. Re:Treating yourself with antibiotics by volkerdi · · Score: 5, Informative

    Although he doesn't come out and say it, it appears that he was treating himself with antibiotics.

    I didn't say it, because I didn't do it. All of the antibiotics I've had were prescribed by qualified physicians who had seen me personally.

  12. Univ N. Dakota Medical school GO THERE! by spineboy · · Score: 5, Informative

    The best place in the world to go if you have a weird problem is a universityhospital for a medical school. There you will find all sorts of specialists, who colect al the "zebra" cases from the surrounding 200 miles and treat them, 'cause no one else knows how to. Almost every medical school I know will take any pt, reguadless of insurance, on an emergency basis, and run the appropriate tests.

    I am a surgeon, and I don't like the sound of his lung/chest complaints at all. The address for the school is..UND School of Medicine & Health Sciences, 501 N. Columbia Rd, Grand Forks, ND 58203
    Phone:(701)777-5046

    I wouldn't waste time with community doctors, they probably are in WAY over there heads, or might not even recognize the seriousness of the situaton.

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    1. Re:Univ N. Dakota Medical school GO THERE! by Nurseman · · Score: 5, Informative
      who collect all the "zebra cases"

      Great referance, for those non medical types, the med school saying is something like "When you hear hooves, think horses, don't think zebras". In other words, think of the obvious first. Also great point about teaching hospitals, I seem to be in mod point drought, so I can't help you out here.

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  13. Treatment Options by WombatControl · · Score: 4, Informative

    You need to seek qualified medical treatment.

    Your best options are at the University of Minnesota, which is about a 4 hour drive, or the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, about a 5 hour drive. Either one will have doctors who are trained in the treatment of infectious diseases. I would first visit the hospital in Fargo and make sure you fill out a HIPAA release so that they can forward your records onto the appropriate hospitals.

    It's clear you have an advanced infection that is not responding well to various treatments. The risks of developing an antibiotic resistant infection is very high with prolonged use of drugs like ciprofloxin.

    If you need help, my cousin is a doctor at the U of M (in oncology/hemotology) who would be able to at least get you in touch with the right people there.

  14. GET HELP NOW OR DIE by rpbird · · Score: 5, Informative

    He went to the wrong doctors. When dealing with a bacterial infection, you need an INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST. You can find them associated with large medical centers. Bacteria are hard to defeat, they can be tolerant of antibiotics, so a multi-drug therapy has to be used. Bacteria can encyst themselves when exposed to a hostile environment, to reappear later. All cysts must be drained. This can be minor surgery when they are in muscles, or major surgery when involving a major organ (like a lung). This isn't to be played around with, they can easily kill. Most doctors don't have the knowledge to treat them. Get to an INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST immediately! There aren't that many of them, and most are associated with large institutions or university teaching hospitals. Get on it now, your life is in jeopardy.