What about people with weak hearts... They would survive one hit, but what if some triggerhappy cop gives 10 shots to a big person with a weak heart? Not so non-lethal anymore..
The correct term for these weapons is "less lethal". There is no such thing as "non lethal", Even a paperclip can be lethal in some instances. Bean Bag guns, pepper spray, tasers, have all caused death in some instances. The idea is to use the "least lethal" form possible.
"It's funny you can download better operating systems for free than what the richest corporation on earth can sell you."
"Better" for whom ?
Isnt better the one that allows you to do what you want, and fits your needs ? I loved the idea of Linux when first exposed 5 years ago. I could finally run ONLY what I wanted, no hidden DLL's. But after dozens of installs, I gave up. I could and did install any distro. What I could not do was run what I wanted to. Two or three distros on the same machine, would all use different drivers for the same video card. Hours and Hours editing config files to try and get sound. Endless trips up the stairs to the kids computers to hop on IRC to try and find the right driver for eth0. Flash ? Forget it. MP3's, only if you manually install the codec, PDF's haha.. first you have to get a printer running. I'll admit, it's been about two years since I tried a distro (Got a PowerMac), and I know things have improved. But Linux will never get the home desktop. It is just too complicated, and most people care less about their OS that they do about their phone bill.
They just want something that works.
On another note, isn't this comparable to the free gifts that pharmacutical companies give doctors on their conferences. It is just that this doesn't have the obvious connection to peoples health and well being and perhaps is a bit smaller in scope
I always thought those free pens and pads were cool and harmless. Then I found about a pharm company sponsored ski trip, that has some glitches in the travel plans. When they surgeons came back, they refused to prescribe any of the companies antibiotics for one month. The drug rep came in nearly crying to get them to stop.
There is a great site run by doctors tired of Big Pharm and the Big Push to write new expensive drugs.
http://www.nofreelunch.org/
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I was right, here is the quote from the actual ruling:
"The court further concludes that because a portion of SCO's 2003 Sun and Microsoft Agreements indisputably licenses SVRX products listed under Item VI of Schedule 1.1(a) to the APA, even if only incidental to a license for UnixWare, SCO is obligated under the APA to account for and pass through to Novell the appropriate portion relating to the license of SVRX products. Because SCO failed to do so, it breached its fiduciary duty to Novell under the APA and is liable for conversion."
That sounds like they will get something, but not all. Depends on what SCO actually sold.
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"It's more than 16 million, because under the APA, SCO had to remit *all* of the fees to Novell to receive 5 percent as a sales commission."
Actually, before Groklaw's servers took a nose dive. I read it as whatever SCO sold Microsoft and Sun contained "some percentage" of Novell's Unix. They now have to decide how much, and Novell will get that percent. Hard to check now without the actual ruling.
"Look up ABLE ARCHER 83, a little more serious and we would all be dead now (or mutated)."
Look up the common cold, or flu, a little more serious and we'd all be dead. Thats the point of all this the very big "IF" it mutates. Look at Ebola, one of the most deadly viruses known. Spread by water droplets, similar bird flu, but it has not made it out of Africa in any large numbers.
If there is a bird flu pandemic, we would have a lot more to worry about than the 'Net.
"The" legal system? You make it sound like you think there's only one. Here's a clue: the US legal system is just one of many legal systems in the world. Spamhaus is based in the UK, where we have a somewhat different legal system.
Correct, but if you operate a buisness in another country, you have to follow that countries laws. Ask Google about the Belgium case. But again, as numerous people have stated, Spamhaus' problem, is they tried both ways, first they argued, which gave the case merit, then they defaulted, which gave the spammers a slam dunk. BTW for all the hysteria, no one has said they will enforce this order yet. And it is only a prilminary order. Spamhaus still has chance/right to appeal. EFF Where are you ??
Here is where your wrong, and Spamhaus has a problem. They DID go to court in the begining, and argued to have the case moved from State to Federal court. Which they succeeded in doing. But then they just didn't show for the trial. They recieved bad legal advice TWICE, and then defaulted. They still have a shot at getting this reveresed on appeal, but they need to show, or this ruling will stand.
jail should be a last resort. It makes no use of the person or their time, and does nothing to "rehabilitate" anyone
It could also be argued that jail is punishment. Fines and jail time are common in these cases. There is also the school of thought that jailing people like this, may give the next CEO pause, if he tries the same thing.
"MS is so consumed with keep aliances with companies by having heavily restricted DRM methods,"
Not to be a troll, but IPod is not DRM'ed ? I see newgroups full of people trying to get songs they PURCHASED off their Ipods onto their computers. ITunes also copies CD's into a propriety format, to make sharing more difficult. And does IPod currrently have free WiFi sahring to all those arround you ?
Dont get me wrong. I have a 20 gig older Ipod that I would not trade for the worrld, and I dont need a multi-media streaming video on a 2" screen. Lastly, would you want anything running Windows to have open WiFi enabled ?
Not to be a troll, just Devils Advocate. What do you think would happen if Cox "blocked" Google. Do you think the vast majority of Cox users would care enough to switch ? Do you think they have the ability to switch ?
To me this is scarier than any MS monolopy. With MS I have alternatives. I have no other choice for highspeed other than RoadRunner. I cannot get DSL, and have only one provider. What happens tomorrow if they decide to throttle back Gmail, and throttle up Hotmail ??
I don't suppose you'd be so kind as to provide a link, would you?
This link was posted earlier in the thread, it appears to be an MS blog talking about FF support. I am using Live in FF right now, some of the eye candy is tunred off, but it works okay. (For hotmail anyways). Funniest thing, when I sign on, I was entered into some contest, and the Hotmail spam filter sorted the Live mail confirmation as Spam. !!
Here is the link to the blog about FF support
http://spaces.msn.com/livecom/blog/cns!D4909E7F27E 254E9!181.entry
Commodore 64 and Radio Shack tape deck on my little 9" Back and White TV. I actually found it about 12 years ago,and ended up giving it to someone geekier than myself.
"Sorry, but that logic is flawed in so many ways I don't know where to start. It's the same kind of reckless irresponsibility that makes newspapers print material they know will cause massive uproars. Anyone who publishes information has a responsibility not to needlessly cause harm."
Gotta disagree. By your statement, you think factual reporting should be curtailed if it will hurt someones feelings ? This person, like it or not, was a celebrity". Do you think Scott Petersons name should not be printed, because it will cause greif to his parents ? Do you thinkthe Dutch should not print cartoons, because it will cause harm ? I consider myself VERY conservative, but you are awfully close to censorship. Who decides what is likely to "needlessly cause harm"?
There has been so much chicken little, sky is falling hysteria about voting I think the public has become immune. Before you mod me troll, I think this is a scary thing. How anyone can say voting records are propriety data is just beyond comprehension to me.
Electronic voting is scary, in all its forms. Unless it is open, I don't know how we can trust the result of ANY election. 2008 is looking more and more like 1984.
The feedback system is flawed. A friend was caught like this. The seller opened a small store, and sold small figurines at low cost for months. His feedback was in the 90's. Then the holidays roll arround, and suddenly he is selling exclusive, hard to find, big ticket items. If you look at his feedback, he was great. Of course, this guy took all the cash and ran.
My friend lost $1500 for some one of a kind trinket. I would rather pay a few bucks, and be sure of the seller. Only small items for me from now on with Ebay.
Anyone else notice that the first document linked on the OASIS site is an MS Word doc ? They do have it in PDF form also, but the first one is Word. Kinda Ironic given what is going on in Mass.
"Still. Why leave the USA to handle it all? I'd rather see either a newer/better/improved system (than DNS)"
Because it is working, and is not being abused. Why change something that continues to operate effectively ?
If the EU cuts off US DNS servers, the only people who will suffer are the EU citazens and buisnesses. I just can't see this happening.
Instead of the 2 "pre-selected" candidates, we get more choices. I think this system would give non mainstream candidates a better chance.
What about people with weak hearts... They would survive one hit, but what if some triggerhappy cop gives 10 shots to a big person with a weak heart? Not so non-lethal anymore..
The correct term for these weapons is "less lethal". There is no such thing as "non lethal", Even a paperclip can be lethal in some instances. Bean Bag guns, pepper spray, tasers, have all caused death in some instances. The idea is to use the "least lethal" form possible.
"Better" for whom ?
Isnt better the one that allows you to do what you want, and fits your needs ? I loved the idea of Linux when first exposed 5 years ago. I could finally run ONLY what I wanted, no hidden DLL's. But after dozens of installs, I gave up. I could and did install any distro. What I could not do was run what I wanted to. Two or three distros on the same machine, would all use different drivers for the same video card. Hours and Hours editing config files to try and get sound. Endless trips up the stairs to the kids computers to hop on IRC to try and find the right driver for eth0. Flash ? Forget it. MP3's, only if you manually install the codec, PDF's haha.. first you have to get a printer running. I'll admit, it's been about two years since I tried a distro (Got a PowerMac), and I know things have improved. But Linux will never get the home desktop. It is just too complicated, and most people care less about their OS that they do about their phone bill. They just want something that works.
I always thought those free pens and pads were cool and harmless. Then I found about a pharm company sponsored ski trip, that has some glitches in the travel plans. When they surgeons came back, they refused to prescribe any of the companies antibiotics for one month. The drug rep came in nearly crying to get them to stop. There is a great site run by doctors tired of Big Pharm and the Big Push to write new expensive drugs. http://www.nofreelunch.org/
"The court further concludes that because a portion of SCO's 2003 Sun and Microsoft Agreements indisputably licenses SVRX products listed under Item VI of Schedule 1.1(a) to the APA, even if only incidental to a license for UnixWare, SCO is obligated under the APA to account for and pass through to Novell the appropriate portion relating to the license of SVRX products. Because SCO failed to do so, it breached its fiduciary duty to Novell under the APA and is liable for conversion."
That sounds like they will get something, but not all. Depends on what SCO actually sold.
Actually, before Groklaw's servers took a nose dive. I read it as whatever SCO sold Microsoft and Sun contained "some percentage" of Novell's Unix. They now have to decide how much, and Novell will get that percent. Hard to check now without the actual ruling.
Sort of like to old story about "Windows is not done until 1-2-3- will not run"?
Look up the common cold, or flu, a little more serious and we'd all be dead. Thats the point of all this the very big "IF" it mutates. Look at Ebola, one of the most deadly viruses known. Spread by water droplets, similar bird flu, but it has not made it out of Africa in any large numbers. If there is a bird flu pandemic, we would have a lot more to worry about than the 'Net.
Correct, but if you operate a buisness in another country, you have to follow that countries laws. Ask Google about the Belgium case. But again, as numerous people have stated, Spamhaus' problem, is they tried both ways, first they argued, which gave the case merit, then they defaulted, which gave the spammers a slam dunk. BTW for all the hysteria, no one has said they will enforce this order yet. And it is only a prilminary order. Spamhaus still has chance/right to appeal. EFF Where are you ??
Here is where your wrong, and Spamhaus has a problem. They DID go to court in the begining, and argued to have the case moved from State to Federal court. Which they succeeded in doing. But then they just didn't show for the trial. They recieved bad legal advice TWICE, and then defaulted. They still have a shot at getting this reveresed on appeal, but they need to show, or this ruling will stand.
one word. Drudge. Love him hate him. He began this. Drudge put blogs on the map.
It could also be argued that jail is punishment. Fines and jail time are common in these cases. There is also the school of thought that jailing people like this, may give the next CEO pause, if he tries the same thing.
Not to be a troll, but IPod is not DRM'ed ? I see newgroups full of people trying to get songs they PURCHASED off their Ipods onto their computers. ITunes also copies CD's into a propriety format, to make sharing more difficult. And does IPod currrently have free WiFi sahring to all those arround you ?
Dont get me wrong. I have a 20 gig older Ipod that I would not trade for the worrld, and I dont need a multi-media streaming video on a 2" screen. Lastly, would you want anything running Windows to have open WiFi enabled ?
what does a genuine email fromm the bank look like?
Simple. My bank N E V E R sends an email that requires a logon. Most banks are the same.
DONT CLICK that link and you will be fine
Duke Nuke'm had some funny bits too, catching the monster in the bathroom, giving the go-go girls money for a pasty flash.
Good clean fun !
Not to be a troll, just Devils Advocate. What do you think would happen if Cox "blocked" Google. Do you think the vast majority of Cox users would care enough to switch ? Do you think they have the ability to switch ?
To me this is scarier than any MS monolopy. With MS I have alternatives. I have no other choice for highspeed other than RoadRunner. I cannot get DSL, and have only one provider. What happens tomorrow if they decide to throttle back Gmail, and throttle up Hotmail ??
This is something that needs more press.
This link was posted earlier in the thread, it appears to be an MS blog talking about FF support. I am using Live in FF right now, some of the eye candy is tunred off, but it works okay. (For hotmail anyways). Funniest thing, when I sign on, I was entered into some contest, and the Hotmail spam filter sorted the Live mail confirmation as Spam. !! Here is the link to the blog about FF support http://spaces.msn.com/livecom/blog/cns!D4909E7F27E 254E9!181.entry
Can a private company file a RICO suit ? I thought that was a Govt charge ?
Commodore 64 and Radio Shack tape deck on my little 9" Back and White TV.
I actually found it about 12 years ago,and ended up giving it to someone geekier than myself.
Gotta disagree. By your statement, you think factual reporting should be curtailed if it will hurt someones feelings ? This person, like it or not, was a celebrity". Do you think Scott Petersons name should not be printed, because it will cause greif to his parents ? Do you thinkthe Dutch should not print cartoons, because it will cause harm ? I consider myself VERY conservative, but you are awfully close to censorship. Who decides what is likely to "needlessly cause harm"?
There has been so much chicken little, sky is falling hysteria about voting I think the public has become immune. Before you mod me troll, I think this is a scary thing. How anyone can say voting records are propriety data is just beyond comprehension to me. Electronic voting is scary, in all its forms. Unless it is open, I don't know how we can trust the result of ANY election. 2008 is looking more and more like 1984.
The feedback system is flawed. A friend was caught like this.
The seller opened a small store, and sold small figurines at low cost for months. His feedback was in the 90's. Then the holidays roll arround, and suddenly he is selling exclusive, hard to find, big ticket items. If you look at his feedback, he was great. Of course, this guy took all the cash and ran.
My friend lost $1500 for some one of a kind trinket. I would rather pay a few bucks, and be sure of the seller. Only small items for me from now on with Ebay.
Anyone else notice that the first document linked on the OASIS site is an MS Word doc ? They do have it in PDF form also, but the first one is Word. Kinda Ironic given what is going on in Mass.
Because it is working, and is not being abused. Why change something that continues to operate effectively ? If the EU cuts off US DNS servers, the only people who will suffer are the EU citazens and buisnesses. I just can't see this happening.
First thought was the cover of Animals by Pink Floyd. If you don't know what I am talking about see this link.
http://bps.fika.org/Animals.html