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Red Hat Launches Online Red Hat Magazine
loconet writes "Today Red Hat published the first issue of their online Red Hat magazine, formerly known as the Under the Brim newsletter. Each issue includes Editor's Blog, Red Hat Speaks (interviews with Red Hat personalities), From the Inside (News, Whitepapers, Events), Ask Shadowman, Tips & Tricks, Fedora Status Report, Contests. This month's issue features a detailed article on Fedora Core 3."
All the article links are Flash... preventing an "Open in New Tab". This is certainly a weird way to do rollovers on links.
Debian rules - but RH has it's niche as being the PHB's distro. You won't read about debian in CIO monthly.. ;)
Does it come with a secret decoder ring?
The owls are not what they seem
...actually different from Under The Brim in content? Doesn't look like it. Any other differences?
Interesting! This magazine will give corporate users more confidence on Linux. There will be little new technical information in this site. However, people from companies will find it very usefull, in the same way that they find usefull the Oracle or DB2 magazines. It is just corporate support to the products that they are buying. Great!
This magazine was brim-ming with potential naming greatness, but their crown-ing achievement was "Editor's Blog" and "Tips & Tricks"?! What about Hat Tricks? Brim Shots? Bowler, I Don't Even Know Her? Buy software in the Haberdashery! The Beret-B-C's of Linux? Helmet-ropolitan Opera House?!!! (OK that last one is a stretch.)
Kids these days....
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
A little birdie told me that they want you to read Red Hat Magazine, but stay away from Fedora Core. It will EAT YOUR BRANE.
This month's issue features a detailed article on Fedora Core 3 Wowee! I hope next month's issue has an article on the history of the parallel port!
How is this insightful? Sounds like a troll to me.
.deb.
Honestly though, Debian is great and DEB's are more stable technology than RPM's, but they are also a lot harder to build and that's why there are less of them. It's still easier to deal with a few dependencies in binaries than to deal with them in source form because the author of a package wouldn't take the time to make a
Also how up to date is Debian's distro? It is very stable (and I use it on certain servers), but a lot of the packages are somewhat behind. Cut RedHat a little slack. It is also a lot better than it used to be.
Obviously not the same moderator, and obviously no the entire site's fault. Dumbass.
Exactly. Why is this news that one company behind one distribution is relaunching one of their marketing tools. Thank you /. for giving them the free plug.
This is the company trying to turn Linux in to the most expensive operating system, not the most economical.
This is the company the launched a subscription update service for its users and in less than the duration of a one year subscription cut the legs out from it, and the subscribers who paid money for it, and abandoned the whole flagship desktop product and their loyal users.
Well they didn't exactly abandon it, rather they unloaded it on unpaid labor who do all the work for them and they just control, market, exploit and profit from it. Nice business if you can pull it off.
Me I used to go out of my way to buy Red Hat box sets just to support a company that I thought was one of the good guys. No more. Gentoo for me.
@de_machina
Or was it just me, but that site did not play nicely. Maybe it was the useless flash, or the adblocker extension fooling around, but scrolling up or down the page really bogged down mozilla. Maybe the site is also designed as a stress test for your box?
Gnome: A never ending quest to make unix friendly to people who don't want unix and excruciating for those that do.
Is RedHat still around?
if you RTFA:
The downloads for the Fedora Core 3 release have been stunning -- the torrent at Duke sustained over 16,000 image downloads, exchanging about 37TB in just two days!
Apparently one or two people like the project but don't let that get in the way of someone on Slashdot telling you RH is dead, please by all means ignore the fact they're the #1 distro in India, just opened an office in China which is now their main focus. They have office in Munich and landed some very big contracts there. Are currently the #1 installed distro in the world by a landslide according to netcraft. If you guys read that Mag and put down the zealot sword for a second you might see why everyone uses redhat/fedora, It's kicking the crap out of the competition.
-- "of course thats just my opinion, I could be wrong." --Dennis Miller
Gentoo! Gentoo! Ebuild! Portage! 37.587% speed increase! Rah, rah! :)
What time is it/will be over there? Check with my iPhone app!
Wow its like not even worth reading slashdot anymore if Redhat is mentioned. All the little debian, gentoo, and suse freaks come out of the word work and freak out. Its like werewolves on a full moon. Listen guys, Red Hat are the good guys, they offer great products and the corporate folk like them. They don't abuse anything or anyone, they open source everything. Try getting Novell to do that, Novell is just testing the waters because Netware failed, they have no interest in OSS, they'll jump on the next big train outta here if they think it'll get them more money. Red Hat's business *is* linux, they were in a position to buy Suse and were close to it but decided the market would be too closed, thats what kind of good guys these are. Anyway, its hard to get through the thick skulls of some slashdotters, but in the real world Red Hat or Suse are the only choices, my experience has been that Red Hat is better, others may feel different. Thats fine, have fun, but regardless of my choice I will support both distributions and tell others of them simply to get the ball out of MS's court. Once we do that, then can we have the linux distro flame wars? It shouldn't be too long 4 years or so, you can wait. ;)
Regards,
Steve
Fedora Core 3 is better than any of your distro's anyway
Sometimes it's necessary to cut your losses and admit that you can't have everything. In my case I embrace RH and their march toward the mainstream. The only way I can 'elect' to run Linux is to toe the line of certification and to RH's credit they have shelled out the bucks to appease all the PHBs in control of virtually everthing. When freedom of choice moments of clarity arise I scramble to fedora or some other cleansing moment...
they unloaded it on unpaid labor who do all the work for them and they just control
... @mandrake ... @debian ... @gentoo ... @suse
... @redhat ... @mandrake ... @debian ... @gentoo ... @suse
... @redhat ... @mandrake ... @debian ... @gentoo ... @suse
... Gnome :-)
But all RedHat does is steal work from these poor programers just look at the end of this comment. They contribute more than any other single entity, dedicating 1/5th of their income to R&D. If anyone deserves a "free plug" certain Red Hat is one of those companys.
$ find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep "@redhat" | wc -l
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With the upstream glibc-20041021T0701
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With the upstream gcc-3.4.2-20041018
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Do the same with
by some guy named By my_name on OSnews forum.
-- "of course thats just my opinion, I could be wrong." --Dennis Miller
So does this mean the print magazine Wide Open is officially dead? I got my first copy-- went to subscribe (at the redhatmagazine url) and they said they were switching to the magazine being free. I thought - 'Yeah!' and then filled out the application. Since then... silence.
I wonder if this is taking its place and they decided to act like Wide Open never happened. (the jokes are too obvious - please don't even bother)
It's hard to believe that's how Micronians are made. Why don't we see it right now by having you both kiss one another?
"This is the company trying to turn Linux in to the most expensive operating system, not the most economical."
To expand on this more you know there is a problem with Red Hat when Microsoft and SUN can point to them and say Linux is the more expensive option and actually have a plausible arguement when they say it. They are giving a Linux a bad name on the value proposition front and that was its biggest asset and the thing thats fueled its growth.
I know there are big companies that need all the support and are willing to pay for it, well let them throw money at Red Hat, but I think its time Red Hat stop being synonymous with Linux in the U.S. They have painted themselves in to a niche, and its a niche which deserves to be ignored by tech savvy people like the denizens of slashdot who are building systems and servers and know they don't need to throw money at Red Hat for most of what they are doing.
I really with all the people working on Fedora would migrate to Debian or Gentoo and leave Red Hat high and dry and make them actually pay people to do the work they are currently exploiting.
@de_machina
Keep using yum, or install apt. For security and general updates, stick with up2date, or just use "yum upgrade". There are many many repositories out there with thoushands of applications. Just have to add a line to your yum.conf or apt sources. Here are a few of my favorites:
FreshRPMS
Dag
Livna
Fedora.us
Some repositories play nicer with each other then others, i.e. Livna is maintained to be compatible with the Fedora.us repo. Dag has a huge selection of applications, as does FreshRPMS. You should read each site and see which you think is best for you. Personally, your best and easiest bet is to just use the yum.conf provided by FedoraFAQ.org. You may want to uncomment some additional repositories, but if you leave it how it is, you should be fine. FedoraFAQ.org is also a good site for general Fedora information. If nothing else, go in #fedora on irc, everyone there is usuaully always friendly and willing to help.
Regards,
Steve
Uh, cygnus dominates gcc and glibc development and have for a long time before they were part of Red Hat. It doesn't say anything about their commitment to Linux that they haven't axed their Cygnus acquisition so they are still leading the work on it. I think the Cygnus people get paid money by companies, under contract, to support these tools for them and it doesn't exactly have anything to do with the rest of Red Hats business model.
Gnome, yawn...me being a KDE user I could care less.
Your mechanism also fails to differentiate between the GOOD Red Hat before they went public and started worship quarterly results, and the new BAD red hat who could care less about anything that isn't profitable.
"dedicating 1/5th of their income to R&D."
That is kind of typical percentage for most tech companies. Wall Street would probably take a dim view of a tech company that didn't invest in R&D, because they wouldn't have any differentiator from their competitors. How benevolent it is depends entirely on where its going and how much of it they are trying to make proprietary one way or another.
@de_machina
I think the Cygnus people get paid money by companies, under contract, to support these tools for them and it doesn't exactly have anything to do with the rest of Red Hats business model.
Wrong. Red Hat gets paid, not the developers directly. And Red Hat has hired people and continued to expand on gcc, such as gcj, which could not possibly be part of a support contract.
Red Hat releases everything they develop under the GPL. So how is that BAD?
Good guys and bad guys is bullshit. Red Hat is a company, they will do what they think is going to make money, nothing more, nothing less. If they didn't buy Suse, it was because it did not make sence to their positioning, not because of some honour you seem to wish to see in them.
regardless of my choice I will support both distributions and tell others of them simply to get the ball out of MS's court
I just love a fair and ballenced view. Guess what Red Hat isn't Jesus Christ and MS isn't the devil, they are just companies with the same goal, to make money. On top of that, Microsoft does make a good product. It might not do everything right, but neither does Red Hat, or Suse, or Solaris. Letting a religious feeling decide what tools you use without ever considering actual technical reasons is retarded.
"I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are."
What crack are you on?
For Gnome:Open a terminal window and run the command gconf-editor. When the GConf editor window appears, open the apps folder, then the metacity folder and finally click on the general folder. Find the variable called reduced_resources and click the check box next to it.
For KDE:Open a terminal window and run the command kcontrol. When the KDE Control Center window appears, click the "+" symbol next to the Desktop menu item to expand it. Then click the Window behavior menu item. Under the Moving tab, uncheck the options Display content in moving windows, Display content in resizing windows, and Animate minimize and restore.
That is fair and unbiased. and both use a gui.
Regards,
Steve
You have Red Hat to thank for the fact that Gentoo doesn't suck. Red Hat contributes more to the open source community than any other Linux company out there and they've been doing it for years. Red Hat developers' code is all over the place when you're "emerging". And Red Hat's profits continually go back into improving that same code you're running on all your Gentoo boxes. So really you should be cheering Red Hat on.
Celebrate the finer things in life
Like I said this is not differentiating between the work they did when they were a good company and now when they are chasing quarterly numbers, jerking around their loyal users, and seeking to milk Linux for all its worth. They aren't doing it out of any benevolence anymore, at least it sure doesn't feel like it did before they went public.
Obviously they are contributing to it still but so are IBM, Novell/SUSE, HP, SGI, etc. They are trying to make quarterly numbers just like all the other companies on this list and they have to contribute the work they are doing to justify their premium license costs, back to the kernel thanks to the GPL. They don't deserve any more or less credit than all of the other companies that are doing the same thing. Companies like IBM are probably a little higher on the benevolence scale since Linux is more just a cool tool to them and they make their money on consulting and services and not so much on the subscription scheme Red Hat is using now to exploit Linux.
Its still a fact that they are milking unpaid volunteers to put together their distribution for them. I don't follow SUSE much but I doubt its quite as blatant a milking of volunteers as Fedora is.
All in all I'll take the Debian or Gentoo model where volunteers are contributing their efforts for the benefit of themselves and their user community and not to benefit some nameless shareholders on Wall Street.
@de_machina
"and they've been doing it for years"
I'll say this again. I was a loyal Red Hat buyer back to 5.x. I went out of my way to buy box sets up to 8.0 just to give them money to put in to Linux. I bought a subscription for the update service as soon as they came out with it. I used to love them. No more.
The day they stick a knife in their flagship product and all the loyal users and developers who got them where they are they stopped being worthy of your hero worship.
The fact that they were once the best thing that ever happened to Linux has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the new Red Hat of the last year or two, since they started fixating on their stock price, bites.
@de_machina
Okay you keep saying over and over how RedHat is exploiting linux, or "milking unpaid volunteers"
rmap, nptl, O(1) scheduler, O(1) VM layer, drivers, tcp/ip stack, selinux, statefull linux, exec-shield, gcj, mozilla, Anaconda, RPM, kudzu, GTK2, GCC, Glibc, ext2, ext3, GFS, and soon Netscape directory.
I'll put that up against Apt-get if you want to have a contest about who is "milking" the community more. Debian or RedHat/Fedora.
-- "of course thats just my opinion, I could be wrong." --Dennis Miller
Seriously... even Times new Roman is better than that... just because X seems to have and issue with font rendering, doesn't mean you have to propegate it.
> exec-shield
Ingo's work is cool, don't use it but its good. Doesn't make up for Red Hat shafting their loyal customers and developers.
> selinux
I think the NSA did this originally. Not going to worship Red Hat over it.
> O(1) scheduler, O(1) VM layer, drivers, tcp/ip stack...
If Red Hat's wasn't there someone else's would be if there was a need. Sure maybe it would take longer, or be a little rougher, not really gonna adopt your apparent position Linux would be useless and hopeless were it not for Red Hat.
> Anaconda
Don't use it, don't care, most packaged distro's have installers, big f**king deal.
> RPM
Did use it, don't anymore. I found it to be a curse, looking for the damn things that match the system I had, and you eventually end up with a Frankenstein of an unmaintanable system. After you've installed enough of them outside of the official release you eventually end up with an urge to wipe the whole thing and do a fresh install.
I'll take Gentoo anyday. Tried both and I sleep better at night with the Gentoo approach. I never have to look for a binary match and I at least know everything is compiled against the same bits.
> kudzu
Was this the prober in Red Hat 8. If so I did use it, I quickly started despising it. Don't use it any more, don't care. Maybe its better now, naive users obviously need something like it, again I personally dont care.
> gcj, glibc, gcc
Again mostly Cygnus, and yes they are a part of Red Hat now. Its probably not a good thing.
> GTK2
Well I have used it and I can say I'm generally happier using Qt or almost any other GUI than either version of GTK.
> ext2, ext3
Mostly predates the evil Red Hat. I'm using reiser lately. Filesystems are dime a dozen now, not anything I need to worship Red Hat for.
> Mozilla
Don't know how big their contribution to it is, sure there is some, doubt they like "own" it. I use Konqueror so I don't care though its cool Firefox is putting a dent in IE, it was actually covered on CNN this morning.
Bottomline I really don't care if you spend all night listing everything they ever touched. If they fell off the face of the earth Linux would keep on keeping on. Like I said I used to love and worship them as much as you do. They jerked my loyalty over in a big way. Companies only do that to me once and they are toast.
I have no problem if they decided to do their enterprise edition but they should have left their flagship desktop release and their subscription service as it was, charge enough to break even, and deal with it if it wasn't hugely profitable. By axing it they did serious harm to Linux because they caused a massive discontinuity in a distro that up till then had been reliable. If nothing else they obviously created a whole lot of animosity they would have been better off without.
@de_machina
It's good to see they finally sped up yum, it was HORRIBLE in FC2... took 10x as long to do the same thing as apt-get upgrade.
Yes NASA developed SElinux, but it was having difficulty breaking into the mainstream, RH hired Russel Coker and pushed for its inclusion into 2.6 kernel I can assure you they have paid people working on this so that it will work with every day tasks instead of only being applicable to 'hardened' distro's. This is huge IMO
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kudzu is hardware tool, used in knoppix to get that "works on any hardware" people were screaming when it first came out.
gcj/gcc/etc you say its probably not a good thing, have you read the changelog over the last year? Pretty incredible stuff. There is a couple things from the Article here I liked too about GCC:
GCC 4.0 has Static Single Assignment (SSA) performance improvements -- SSA's usefulness comes from how it simultaneously simplifies and improves compiler optimizations, by simplifying the properties of variables. and
The FORTIFY_SOURCE extensions add both compile-time buffer overflow detection, and very low overhead runtime overflow protection. This is an excellent development tool to help improve the quality of code out there, and a current aim is to have the -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE option to compile the entire Fedora Core 4 distribution! (Nothing shipped in Fedora Core 3 makes use of GCC4) For more information on this, refer to a posting made by Jakub Jelinek at http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2004-09/msg0205
I concider these good things. So have the last 5 years since cygnus merged.
I don't mean to say redhat wrote all these apps from the ground up although they did for some. Just that almost every top notch app for linux you can think of had a money player behind it like RedHat/SuSE/etc. What does this mean? Free distro's are the ones benifiting more from the $$$ guys.. The $$$ guys are the ones piling on the features we ask for, they're the ones giving us the "killer apps"
-- "of course thats just my opinion, I could be wrong." --Dennis Miller
Is this like an oxymoron ...Jumbo shrimp, Military Intelligence, happy windows user??
Slashdot, where armchair scientists get shouted down and armchair theologians get modded up.
that 'box set' still exists as fedora. why do people keep bitching about this?
PHP is the solution of choice for relaying mysql errors to web users.
Heh...i like the name of the department (submit-debian-articles-just-for-fun dept) and hooray! more daily reading![eh..actually i think i might have to consitter it..i dont like red hat...it's to robust and slow...i wish i had a fast computer..] (that takes the place of MausI and II that i have yet to finish and im worried because i have a test soon!)
that 'box set' still exists as fedora. why do people keep bitching about this?
STFU Fanboy.
Fedora is the unstable devel version. At one time, the affordable version of Red Hat didn't amount to paying to beta test.
LK
"Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
You won't appreciate much in this magazine if you are not curious about software, are a die hard Debian fan, or simply know quite a bit about Red Hat or Fedora Linux already.
I've bookmarked it, will review it regularly, and will consider passing along articles or the URL to friends and associates as it is appropriate.
A firewall can not protect you from yourself. Turn off what you do not need. Do not use the firewall to do your work.
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (June 2004)
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (June 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
You found a bunch of redhat email addresses on your redhat install and redhat packages ... very interesting!
Then why is redhat astro-turfing every opportunity it can? slashdot/osdn/whoever they are these days are getting paid to make this redhat/fedora thing look bigger than it is. redhat isn't kicking the crap outta anyone, they're going down.
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... the word of the day (for redhat)!
Their overall market share is way down
Down
Why don't you grow up? Red Hat contributes to the Linux community. Don't like RH? Then use Gentoo or something else. I use Gentoo almost exclusively but I do not complain about RH. Red Hat is still a Linux company, unlike Novell; I trust RH much more than SUSE because Novell could live without Linux and RH could not.
> Keep using yum, or install apt.
Those interested in Enterprise Linux can just use CentOS 3.1 (includes yum).
Those who installed RH Enterprise ISOs somewhere and are now stuck with no updates (or have to get them by compiling SPRMS) can switch from RH EL 3.0 to CentOS by installing CentOS 3.1's Yum RPM.
http://www.centos.org/
OK I haven't RTFA, but from the summary, it sounds like they're just changing the name of their old magazine.
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Take some Oregano Oil for your health and well-being.
Check your agencies.
http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/
Yet Socrates himself is particularly missed.
A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed.
"Yes NASA developed SElinux"
How did you get +5 insightful when you apparently didn't know it was NSA not NASA.
"gcj/gcc/etc you say its probably not a good thing"
You misunderstood though I wasn't clear. I meant to say I'm not sure its a good thing Cygnus is part of Red Hat since it gives one vendor with dubious motives more control over the some important fundamental tools.
"Just that almost every top notch app for linux you can think of had a money player behind it like RedHat/SuSE/etc."
All depends on your outlook. Another way to look at it is someone will proably step up to fill the niches that need filled. Without all the money flowing from Wall Street maybe it will be slower or rougher, but it is a really bad thing for Linux if we reach the point it has to have huge infusions of money from Wall Street to exist and grow.
If a publicly traded company contributes, great, as long as they don't start acting like they own Linux. Maybe I should clarify my point. There are a lot of great engineers and programmers doing great work for Red Hat. I have no bone to pick with them, I'm glad they are getting paid for their work. Still doesn't mean I can't have complete and utter contempt for their execs, especially their founders and their marketing people. They look to be about standard for the obnoxious marketing people you find in any proprietary software company. Young and company have giant gobs of cash in their pockets from their IPO and they should be treating the community that made it for them with more respect.
The one great beauty of Linux is no one company or person owns it. When companies start acting like they do or conning people in to thinking they do, which Red Hat seems to have done to a lot of suits in the U.S. it is just bad.
The community needs to drive whom to them that they can fall of the face of the earth and we wont care. If they wont to contribute great, just don't sucker us in to buying their software and services and jerk us around like proprietary companies do.
@de_machina
All the little debian, gentoo, and suse freaks come out of the word work and freak out. Its like werewolves on a full moon.
Hey, what about us Slackware freaks? Ooooowwww...
What?