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Torvalds Dubbed Most Influential Executive of 2004

quamaretto writes "CRN has named Linus Torvalds the most influential executive of 2004, in the magazine's feature list of the top 25 executives of the year. For perspective, he is followed by Sam Palmisano of IBM and Steve Balmer of Microsoft. The coverage of Torvalds is 5 pages, including pictures, a written article, and a lot of interview material. Topics are business centric, including SCO, OSDL, and Torvald's personality in development and management."

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  1. in what way is he by Surt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    an executive? What company is he in charge of these days?

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    1. Re:in what way is he by Sweetshark · · Score: 4, Informative

      http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=executive
      1. A person or group having administrative or managerial authority in an organization.
      organisation != company.

    2. Re:in what way is he by Neward+Rylet · · Score: 3, Informative

      Read the article
      He's neither a chief executive nor a chairman. He holds no executive title. And just last year, he accepted his first paying gig in the Linux industry that he founded. He belongs on the list due to his influence, but due to the nature of his creation he lacks the executive title.

    3. Re:in what way is he by kelnos · · Score: 4, Insightful
      On his own, Linux would not have become the corporate success that it is on its way to becomming, that is thanks to IBM, Suse, Red Hat et al.
      How does that in any way make Torvalds less of an influential executive? IMO, the fact that these companies are willing to invest their livelihood in what started out as Torvalds' pet project speaks volumes about how influential he is.

      It's high time that influence in the tech world is gained not by rhetoric and marketing, but by being a reasonable, credible, respectable person with a boatload of techincal talent.

      Put another way, "influence" doesn't just comprise the things a person actually does, but includes all the indirect effects of a person's actions. He *started* the Linux kernel. Could someone else have done it? Probably. But he's the one that actually went and did it, and he's maintained a vision for it and nominal control over it during the past 13-odd years.

      Did he create the Free Software movement? No. But if he hadn't created Linux, I see OSS more of a fringe thing, composed mainly of fanatical followers of RMS. What good are Free programs if you don't have a Free OS to run them on? (Note that RMS himself has very little influence outside the OSS world, and I'd argue that his influence *inside* the OSS world isn't all that much either.)
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    4. Re:in what way is he by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful
      What influence? He didn't create an Open Source movement. He founded no companies and the official kernel is used only as a guideline for distros.
      Founded no companies? Big deal. Most companies have never created something as influential as Linux.
    5. Re:in what way is he by LuSiDe · · Score: 3, Informative

      The GPL was 'made' by Eben Moglen, not by Richard Stallman.

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  2. Good to hear, but not surprising. by laughingcoyote · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Given Linux's penetration of business-level computing, and its influential role on software development as a whole, this is not really as surprising to hear as some might think. Still, it is excellent to see someone recognize this.

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  3. heh by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think it's ironic that a normal guy who doesn't have millions in the bank (as far as I know of course, please prove me wrong if neccesary) is seen as more influental than those IBM and MS bigshots.

    Funny :)

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    1. Re:heh by burns210 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I would, instead, read the book 'Just For Fun' by Linux Thorvalds. It is a great book. The names escape me, but several distros, in the earliest of days(mid-90s), gave Linus stock options as a 'thank you' for their opportunity... I wanna say redhat, and then later(the more financially interesting of the two) was like Suse or similar... it topped several hundred dollars a share on its IPO, and slowly dropped afterwards... Linus was at the time, in the span of 1 day, a multi-millionaire on paper(he couldn't sell any of the stock though, for X number of days)...

      Good book, go read it.

    2. Re:heh by qbwiz · · Score: 3, Informative

      then later(the more financially interesting of the two) was like Suse or similar

      It was VA Linux, the parent of Slashdot, of course.

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  4. #exec Linus\ Torvalds by Shut+the+fuck+up! · · Score: 5, Funny

    bash: exec: Linus Torvalds: not found

  5. No Jobs? by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It seems rather odd that Steve Jobs isn't on that list, considering how much the stock price of Apple has gone up this year. The iPod is big news, and the company seems to be coming back into relevance in the Scientific, educational and home desktop markets. Instead, Michael Dell is on there, and all he's done is put a lot of machines together and put out a copy-cat MP3 player. (He's done a good job at it and made a lot of money, don't get me wrong. He's no innovator, though.)

    1. Re:No Jobs? by Software · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Jobs isn't on the list because CRN is targeted towards business computing ("Vital Information for VARs and Technology Integrators"), not home computing. Dell does both, while the iPod and most other recent Apple inventions are targeted towards the home.

    2. Re:No Jobs? by paxcirca · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Xserve, Xserve RAID, OS X Server, Logic Pro, Final Cut Pro, et cetera, are aimed towards home use? As much as I want an Xserve cluster in my closet, these products aren't aimed towards the consumer market.

  6. Love the interview by Dynastar454 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Interviewer: What do you think of _____?

    Linus: Oh I don't know. Doesn't really matter. I just like to code.

    Copy-paste as needed. :-)

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  7. Influencial? by myrdred · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He may be a great person, a great kernel programmer, a great executive, but influencial??? He influences what gets into the Linux Kernel and what doesn't. He doesn't set trends. He doesn't guide where the industry is going.

    Applications do that, not the kernel. Firefox has an influence. Sure Firefox is Open Source, but Linux has nothing to do with that. Features in desktop environments such as KDE and Gnome can be influencial, an Operating System as a whole can be influencial - but Linux - who deals only with the Kernel. I just don't see it.

    Maybe I'm missing something, but how is Linus Torvalds influencing the industry? What executive decisions has he made that made that changed everything?

    1. Re:Influencial? by kaiser423 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Maybe he's influential in that he provides a steady hand, and transparency for (nearly) all processes. You don't have to be some dynamite guy doing crazy things. Keeping a big ship steady is a big job, and commands respect. When he talks, people listen. He's not going to bullshit anyone. I guess he's influential, because he doesn't overly use his influence, gaining him more respect, and more influence. Mutually reinforcing cycles.

    2. Re:Influencial? by quamaretto · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Maybe I'm missing something, but how is Linus Torvalds influencing the industry? What executive decisions has he made that made that changed everything?

      Linux is the kernel driving the most common Unix implementations right now. The Linux kernel project in high use on inexpensive hardware is what has largely fueled the Unix culture for the last 5-8 years, and has caused Microsoft (Via it's campaign of FUD) and Apple (By adoption of Unix as an underlying OS, disputable but possible), as well as Unix vendors, to sweat and improve to compete with a technology that is highly useful and completely free. And surely there are other important people behind this movement; but the most prominent one is Linus.

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    3. Re:Influencial? by Jameth · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The point is that, as a single individual, he has astounding control over that one thing: Linux. And that one thing, Linux, has an astounding amount of influence in the world right now.

      Linux is essential to IBM's current marketing strategy. That means Linus has influence on IBM's marketing and marketshare. Linux is MicroSoft's top threat. That mean's Linus is influential in the competing with one of the top companies in the world.

      Cities and countries are talking about switching over to Linux (and I don't mean just open-source software in general). That mean's Linus is influential with many governments.

      Novell has a lot riding on Linux. That mean's Linus is influential with the future of Novell. RedHat, Apache, MySQL, KDE, Mandrake, and many other organizations and communities have their intrests tightly tied with Linux's results. That means Linus is influential with those organizations.

      Groups like Debian base some of their decisions on what does and does not go into Linus's kernel tree, which means Linus is influential with everyone who is a part of those groups.

      Although his influence in any one place is small, Linus has a very large influence overall.

    4. Re:Influencial? by CAIMLAS · · Score: 3, Insightful



      Maybe I'm missing something, but how is Linus Torvalds influencing the industry? What executive decisions has he made that made that changed everything?


      Well, for one, he's benevolent. Granted, he doesn't have money dealings, but he is incredibly good at dealing with the feelings and emotions of the people involved. He doesn't anger people (overtly), and he manages to walk away with more friends than enemies.

      If more corporate executives were to do this, the whole of business ecology would be much better, we'd have more employment, less offshoring, better wages, and less hours we'd need to work.

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  8. Is he, really? by northcat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is he really the most influential executive? It is not a list of the 'best' executives or the most popular executives. It is a list of the most influential executives.

  9. Awesome quote by ghideon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    On most days, he toils before a glowing terminal, playing his keyboard like a baby grand, not much different from his early days conceiving the kernel in Helsinki back in 1991. But now Torvalds orchestrates thousands of Linux developers distributed around the globe, synthesizing and arranging the bits into the masterpiece that disrupted the software establishment, crippling Sun, reviving IBM and giving Microsoft a taste of mortality.


    Certianly a great number of supporting applications helped, but I wonder where the OSS movement would be today with the Linux kernel.

    1. Re:Awesome quote by Fallen+Andy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Probably nowhere if RMS hadn't tilted at windmills.
      (To be honest, that leap of courage still scares me
      even today, although I like him believe in the right of a programmer to have source (responsibly)). Don't ask how much UCSD p-system
      source I once had lying around (probably more than
      Softech or Pecan... (grins)).

      We all thought RMS was stark staring mad. But what a beautiful madness. I hope I get struck by the same disease one day when I'm mildly less uncomfortable...

      Sadly, back to the .NET grind.

      But, seriously Linus the Executive. Now penguins might look like they wear suits, but I imagine Linus hates the idea of justifying something to a banker... (cue oblig John Cleese).

      In any case the BSD movement was there and would have happened (see DDJ onwards). But possibly not
      quite the same way.

      I hope Linus writes a thoroughly beautiful "no I don't want an OBE" speech and posts it to them.

      Given Linus's literary skills that will be a fun read...

    2. Re:Awesome quote by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I wonder where the OSS movement would be today with the Linux kernel.

      You mean without the Linux kernel?

      Um, wouldn't we be using BSD?

  10. Sure, OK. Whatever... by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 5, Informative
    Yes, sure. Whip out a dictionary and quote away.

    But when most people think about what an "executive" is, running a company, or being high up in the managerial food chain in terms of running a company, that is what most people think of.

    Without question, Mr. Torvalds is some kind of executive, but his duties differ by miles from what most executive like Ballmer / Gates, and all the rest of 'em do.

    Isn't whipping out a dictionary and quoting verbatim a little antagonistic?

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    1. Re:Sure, OK. Whatever... by JanneM · · Score: 5, Funny
      Isn't whipping out a dictionary and quoting verbatim a little antagonistic?

      antagonistic

      \An*tag`o*nis"tic\, Antagonistical\An*tag`o*nis"tic*al\, a. Opposing in combat, combating; contending or acting against; as, antagonistic forces.


      No.
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    2. Re:Sure, OK. Whatever... by opos · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Seems to me that the issue here is not what most people think, but rather what actually is. The quoted dictionary definition is a rather precise definition and the Linux Kernel group of developers surely qualifies as an organization. What is missing from your "most" perspective is that neither Linus nor Linux are "most" in any manner of speaking. Rather, Linus and Linux reflect the leading edge of a paradigm shift in software development - where company boundaries are blurred.

      Within this frame of reference, a company is the residual of the past software development paradigm and the organization is a step in a new software development paradigm.

      That Torvalds duties differ by miles from that of Ballmer and Gates is a sign of genius - Linus can manage an open source development organization without the traditional management hierarchy that is managed by Ballmer/Gates and all the rest of 'em.

    3. Re:Sure, OK. Whatever... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think he meant plagiaristic.

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  11. The John Stewart of Software by Chagatai · · Score: 4, Funny
    I like how passive and below-the-radar Linus is in these types of interviews. The interviewers try to get him rialed up by mentioning topics in an almost antagonistic manner, and he just brushes them off. It reminds me of John Stewart on Crossfire:

    So what do you think of the Bill Gates vibrator story?
    "I don't"

    So you give away this software totally for free? Yecch! I'd hate to have dinner at your house!
    "I know, and you won't."

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  12. They forgot one! by LeiGong · · Score: 5, Funny
    Where's Darl McBride in this?? How can they put in that hack Torvalds and leave out the man that's responsible for creating Linux?!? OUTRAGEOUS! Who's with me on writing a letter-to-the-editor???

    </sarcasm>

  13. Oh, I get it.... maybe you will too... by 3seas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    its about making linux (a kernal) enterprise ready and as a side effect causing real competition to happen again in the market place.

    Or in other words, causing the others on the list to alter their ways..... hence most influencial...

    and the other side of that coin..

    Do the others on the list influence Linus and what he does?

    probably not or very little...

  14. Executive?? Linus == stuffed suit?? by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 4, Funny

    There goes geekdom. I hope he wore the Tshirt and pants with matching stains to prove he isn't a real executive.

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  15. Ballmer by mnmn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The author goes to pains to find the good in Ballmer. Keywords are man of 'action' and 'energy', and these two words are repeated, with the failure of discovery of another virtue.

    Key point is Ballmer's interest in 'innovation'. Goes in line with Microsoft's PR, sounds like there was no research on this man, just interview someone at Microsoft about its CEO.. they'll just repeat the company bottom line.

    When I hear 'energy', for some reason reminds me of 'developers, developers, developers'. Makes me proud of Linus' laziness.

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  16. On the other hand by RealProgrammer · · Score: 4, Funny
    From TFI:
    • I don't think [being chief software architect of Windows] is something to be particularly proud of, and I don't think it is necessarily true. But if [Gates] wants the job description, hell, I don't think anybody would try to wrangle it away from him. I don't think Gates can lay claim to [lead programmer].

    This is almost as good as saying Darl is on crack. Linus, as the accomplished veteran of alt.fan.warlords, apparently still knows phony hubris when he sees it.

    [Linus toadie mode: off]
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  17. What influence? you ask? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What influence did Jesus of Nazarath have? He didn't create the Catholic Church. He founded no church. On his own, Christ would not have become the religious success that he is except for the Catholics, the Protestants, etc. If someone doesn't like what he said, they create their own brand of righteousness. So what influence does Jesus have. He's said that sin is wrong, but that hasn't stopped anyone, so where is this influence?

    Don't get me wrong, I have respect for what he's done and that he's been able to do it, its far more then I can ever see myself being able to do and he deserves every praise for that, but most influential? That's really streching it.

  18. Most people think.... by oliverthered · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What people think is very rarely the truth.

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  19. Number 1 Quote by Mad+Hughagi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "I guess you could call the belief in sharing of knowledge a 'philosophy,' but I just think it's a fact. It's what differentiates science from alchemy or witchcraft." --Linus Torvalds (2004)

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  20. Re:The Right Kind of Hero by jonabbey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In fact I would think IBM is more of a concern than linux persee.

    Oh, not true, I promise you. Remember when IBM was going it alone with OS/2? It was a joke, despite the product having some very significant technical strengths. Linux is important because millions of people, tens of thousands of businesses, and scores of governments think it's important.

    Add in the fact that Linux undercuts Microsoft on price, the fact that it (along with the freely implementable IETF and W3C internet and web standards) frees people from Microsoft's network effects monopoly prison, and the fact that people get to choose how their own computers work without paying Microsoft for the lesser privilege of serfdom, and you've got a social movement to seriously rival Microsoft's commercial dominance.

    Don't ever kid yourself that IBM is making Linux. Linux is the leverage that IBM needs to remain relevant against the terrible power of a network effects driven monopolist like Microsoft. And it's not just IBM.. all of the PC manufacturers here and abroad benefit from Linux interrupting Microsoft's pattern of claiming all profits in the PC world to itself.

    In materials that leaked out of Microsoft during the federal cases against it, Microsoft strategists explained that their greatest worry was that a Compaq or an HP might simply decide to spend an amount equivalent to the hundreds of millions of dollars that Microsoft charged them per year and put it towards the development of a free alternative commodity OS in free conjunction with the other industry players, freezing out Microsoft and taking back the industry's profits.

    IBM alone couldn't do this. Compaq or Dell alone certainly couldn't do this. What was required to make that happen was a commodity operating system that would not threaten any hardware vendor in the way that OS/2 did IBM's competitors, and which everyone could trust to be equally accessible to them all.

    Linus did that, because of his programming skill, because of his use of Richard Stallman's GPL, and because of his management and social skills.

    Linus and his followers have overturned a many hundred billion dollar industry, and he deserves as much recognition as can be given to him for that.

  21. Re:Repeat after me by spir0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Money is not everything.

    but I sure sleep better when I can afford to pay all my bills.

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  22. Sabina by obdulio · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Paraphrasing (?) an spanish poet called Joaquin Sabina:

    Bill Gates is so poor that the only thing he has is money....

    Linus may not be a rich man, but what he has (the respect, love and admiration of the computer world) is of much more importance than the billions that Gates has and the trillions he may have in the future....

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  23. Influence by example by Per+Abrahamsen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He has, by the example of his competent leadership, demonstrated that important business software can be developed under a free software license.

    This has influenced the industry so that 1) it is much more likely to rely on free software (Linux and other), and 2) it is much more likely comtribute to, and to release software of its own under a free software license.