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Switching to Contracting?
SoonToBeWorking asks: "I recently did a telephone interview for what I thought would be an absolutely wonderful job. It is primarily embedded Linux, with a stable employer that was less than 10 miles from my residence. The interview went extremely well, until the end. The position was listed as full-time but they want me to come on as contractor because the approval is easier to get. Then, I am told they would move me to full-time. I'm recently married, and looking for stable income because I have more than myself to look out for now (kids are not present or on the way for several years yet). I've never contracted before, so I am in unfamiliar territory. I hear a lot of good things -- 3-day work weeks and crazy amounts of money, but is the lack of stability worth it? I know I need my own health & life insurance, but what else? How do I convert my base salary to a contractor rate? Without a 401k or a 403b, how do I take care of retirement?"
What a timing! I'm recently thinking of moving from permanent employment to contract works, not that I don't enjoy my current income, but the inability to do something else in the quiet period (unlke Google which allows employees to work 1 day a week on their own hobby/project) is a killer. I'm a developer and all I want is to develop/create things, not sitting around waiting 3 months for PHB to approve a 8-week project.
I'm also thinking of my future income and lifestyle. Contractors seem to have more exposures to different industry/management styles, I hope to be more in-demand with such exposures, and through word-of-mouth, as long as you did good in the previous jobs, it shouldn't be too hard to find another contract. Your permanent employer probably wouldn't do word-of-mouth for you to many others.
And let's not be fooled into thinking you have a stable job by being "permanently" employed. You're only employed as permanently as the required notice period, 4 weeks maybe?
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I've been contracting for the last 5 years..
With the company I am presently with, for 2 years. They constantly dangle the "full time" carrot, but never deliver. I've found this with every place I have contracted, they talk the talk, but make excuses when its time to pay up on promises.
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There's a number of different options for independent contractors as regards to retirements savings. You can actually save more than an employee as an independent contractor. You can put 25% of their income up to $41K / year into a retirement savings account.
The Google keywords are: independent contractor retirement savings.
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I switched to contracting 4 years ago and generally have not looked back. I do miss the lack of structured vacations. (they end up being between contracts with a slight level of uncertainty if I haven't prearranged the next contract before leaving). I am a pretty healthy person so sick days are not an issue and I've always covered life insurance from my own pocket to even supplement my employer. For health care... Living in Canada it's not a huge issue so I can't help you there.
All in all I would do it again and I recommend it.
Depends on the job. Most contracts I've taken have been short-term for almost that reason: if you don't work out, they want to be able to get rid of you.
If you're right for the job, then chances are the contract will be extended (depending on what kind of job it is). I've never had a contract that only lasted as long as the initial duration, and about half of them have lead to full time positions.
Dont be fooled into thinking that a non-contractor position is any safer than being a contractor.
The market is still brutal and there is no loyalty anymore between corporations and their employees. I would take the position in a heartbeat.
Good Luck!
2) Then, take out at least 10% for 'short term' savings (S) - in case you lose the job (something like a savings account would do.) If this acct ever gets over a couple thousand, move it to long-term savings.
3) Then, take out another 10-20% and set that side for retirement (R) in a long-term fund. I set it this high for several reasons: 1) you want to retire early, 2) inflation, 3) knowing the flukes of our economy and career choice, you'll likely need it sooner than later. This is also a practice of the Japanese culture (or was, 10 years ago), and it's been shown that the 'recommended' 10% that most Americans save has traditionally not been enough.
4) Now, figure what your annual health (etc.) costs (H) will be, and subtract it from what you have left.
5) This will leave you with the money you have for day to day annual living. Divide by 52 to figure out what your weekly available budget would be.
6) Figure out what you could get by on in order to pay rent/mortgage, food, utilities and a base level of entertainment (eating out, movies, video games) funds for the both of you. Subtract this living cost (L) from the total.
7) You should have at least 5% of your living costs left over at the end of the month.
So, in summary:
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If you are working in the tech industry, I think you would be crazy to think that full-time employment means something more stable than contracting.
Thanks to the new overtime rules, you are more than likely to find yourself exempt from any kind of overtime pay on that salary. As the folks at EA how that's working out for them. Contracting is paid by the hour. I've never been paid overtime, but at least if I end up working a 12 hour day, I get paid for it.
California, as I suspect is the same elsewhere, is an "at-will" state. You can be fired at any time for any reason. There is no tech union so unless you are working for a government agency, if the company decides to get rid of you, poof. Contracting is theoretically unstable but you at least have some notice. If you contract is ending in a month, all you need to do is ask the company if they want to extend it or start shopping for another customer. If you contract for an agency, they take care of this for you. I've never worked for a company that didn't expand the scope of a project several times. Six month contracts end up being 18 month contracts...if you do good work, believe me they find places for you.
The dirty secret of contracting is that it's considered overhead, not employees. You get paid out of the same fund that pays for things like light and heat. So consequently, there's not a lot of attention paid to what gets spent, it's simply the cost of doing business. It's not uncommon to make twice as much per hour as a salaried equivalent. For specialize things like security, thin-client, servers you can make hourly rates that bring back visions of the dot-com days.
Health insurance is a biggie if you have no coverage right now. I was on my parents health insurance when I started contracting, and I switch over seamlessly to my own plan when that expired. I pay $170/mo for your basic HMO garbage, which isn't ideal, but I make enough to cover the cost. I got a Roth IRA way back when that I occasionally remember to pay into, but honestly...the only real way I've made any money is real estate. I bought a house that doubled in value in four years. Thank you California.
For stability, your best bet is to get work for a government agency. TSA, Post Office, I have many techie friends that moved to those jobs when the dot com bust happened and they haven't looked back...essentially they have jobs for life. Working for state governments is a more midgroup approach. You still have a pecking order (they don't fire, but they might layoff), but if you make it there a few years, again, employment for life. But full time? In this current pro-corporate climate? I don't think it's stable. You should expect to change jobs at least three or four times in your lifetime.
If that's what you are facing, the question remains, why not at least make the most while you can? Just don't be a spend-happy idiot consumer. Put lots away for a rainy day and keep your taxes in a separate bank account. As a contractor, you have to pay your own taxes and that's a pretty hefty chunk if you don't remember to "set aside" like withholding does. Again, agencies will often take care of this for you but you will be paying for it...if they pay you $30/hr you can bet they are billing more like $60/hr
Anyway, that's my thoughts. I started contracting, went through two failed dotcom companies, got fired from one full-time position (long story), got my business license, started contracting for myself, and haven't looked back.
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Corporations are individual entities.
A corporation with one employee will shelter that employee from personal liability when working for the company. (Though I'd guess gross negligence where there was bodily harm, could be tough still.) That liability would go somewhere though, and that is to the corporation.
The problem with incorporating is you can't get money out as easily. The corporation then takes payment for your work, and has to pay you (the employee) accounting for taxes, etc. At the end of the year, you have to declare that as individual income (and get taxed accordingly.) Plus pay corporate taxes and paperwork overhead.
That's where the cake and eat it too thing is.
I've read stuff that talks about doing lots of stuff with corporations as far as buying assets (like your house) and then giving privileges to use the house to their employees (you.) In that case the house is subject to corporate liability, but less so to person liability.
Research incorporating thouroughly. It's expensive to start, expensive again to stop, and in order to be done properly has a fair amount of bookeeping overhead, and strict discipline with seperating personal and corporate finances.
My account advised me against it for the purposes of computer consulting.
And while you are seen as overhead, as a salaried employee, I am seen as "free" labor. I was having a conversation with a director the other day, who happens to be my boss. I was trying to get across to him the concept of planning, and how there are 4 things:
Cost
Functionality
Schedule
Quality
You can Optimize one, Constrain one, and you have to accept the other two. I was using a current example, where we were constrained by schedule but wanted to get the most functionality in the release. Therefore, we had to accept the cost and the quality. His response? "Cost doesn't factor into this, because as a salaried employee, your cost is free. You can just work overtime and you don't cost any more. Problem solved."
That is how salaried employees are treated.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
You should carefully weigh what you feel. Do you have a natural drive or are you more interested in things outside your sphere of work? If you have the need to charge forward and can self-motivate then, assuming you have decent social skills, you could probably make yourself a better living as a contractor. As for your questions about health and retirement I would suggest you check with a local expert. Perhaps your bank or your lawyer could point you in the right direction. That direction, of course, is a decent accountant (similar to a geek but it doesn't count in binary, it counts in $).
What is important to remember is that you really will need to have good social skills, I have seen so many "coders" try to go independant and fail because they think that they can just "geek" their way through.. uh uh uh... nope, wear that suit and articulate properly, yes, go for aftershave! As an independant, YOU are the executive and you must look the part. I cannot stress this enough!!
Good luck and Go get 'em tiger!
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