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Shortage of Intel Laptop Chipsets

EvilTwinSkippy writes "Taiwanese notebook vendors are reporting a short supply of Intel CPU chipsets for laptops. This includes the popular Centrino line. In case you didn't know most "name brand" laptops like Dell, HP, and even Apple are actually manufactured by OEM's in Taiwan, Mainland China, and Korea."

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  1. Uh, shortage doesn't strictly apply to Apple by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 5, Informative

    Considering Apple computers don't rely on Centrino or Intel chipsets, I'm not sure why they were even thrown into the blurb.

    A 20% shortage translates into higher prices or loss in profit for everyone involved (except in this case Apple because their chipsets don't go through Intel).

  2. Uhh... by cartzworth · · Score: 4, Funny

    In case you didn't know most "name brand" laptops like Dell, HP, and even Apple are actually manufactured by OEM's in Taiwan, Mainland China, and Korea. No Shit. Wait I thought they were made by rosie the riveter here in the good ole USA.

    1. Re:Uhh... by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Wait I thought they were made by rosie the riveter here in the good ole USA.
      Wow, the idea that the US could manufacture anything has literally become a joke.
  3. That's why you don't use Intel Chips by ilyanep · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This shows that AMD is doing way better than Intel. Doesn't AMD make mobile processor chips? If not, they should! AMD's chips have always run faster at the same rated speeds (don't ask me how that works). That's why a game's requirements may say "1 Ghz Pentium 4 or 800 Mhz AMD Athlon" , etc.

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    1. Re:That's why you don't use Intel Chips by Entropius · · Score: 3, Interesting

      AMD's mobile processors seem to be worth it to me.

      I am posting this on a mobile Athlon 64 3400+. It has a 14.1V 4.4 amp-hour battery, and get slightly under three hours on a charge. Much of this power consumption comes from the large LCD (15" WXGA).

      True, some Pentium-M notebooks use less power than my machine. However, when plugged in, I highly doubt that any but the most expensive Centrino notebooks can compete with the Athlon 64's in the number-crunching arena. For me, AC-powered performance (I'm a scientist and a gamer) outweigh the gain in battery life on the Pentium-M's.

      The Athlon 64 notebooks I've seen, particularly the eMachines 68xx line (I have a 6811) are relatively inexpensive, get respectable battery life on DC, and have unmatched processor performance on AC.

      AMD has done a great job balancing the need to save power while on DC with the need for performance on AC.

  4. Cupertino, CA by arashiakari · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple laptops like my iBook are designed in the USA by best-of-field engineers, which makes all the difference in the world. They don't go to Taiwan and see what some company there has put together as and order a million units... which is pretty much what everyone but IBM and Fujitsu do.

    Don't lament that the machine and assembly line labor is done in nations with developing economies - it means our high tech equipment is that much cheaper for us... so we buy more and attain that much more of a productivity advantage.

    1. Re:Cupertino, CA by Mr.G5 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I thought that too until I read this:

      Lam says that Quanta, which has 500 design engineers in Taiwan, did about half of the design work for Apple Computer's G4 notebook.

      Although it doesn't what the half includes but that seems like a lot more from Apple who proudly stamped my Powerbook G4 with Designed by Apple in California. Assembled in Taiwan. My guess is the design is only for the exterior of the case and the Taiwanese handle all of the hardware layout.

    2. Re:Cupertino, CA by sokoban · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't see why it is so shocking that Apple doesn't design their computers from the ground up. They don't design the cpus, memory controllers, ethernet controllers, and the like. I would say that apple really does little more than lay down specs, exterior design, and a few other things. Are they heavily involved with what quantas designs for them? Certainly. Apple is not a semiconductor company any more than Quanta is based out of 1 Infinite Loop.

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    3. Re:Cupertino, CA by PipsqueakOnAP133 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, I've actually met one of the people who does logic board layout and one of my friends worked on one of the G4 northbridges before going to grad school. Both of them worked in Cupertino.

      So outside of manufacturing, there really isn't much design work they do FOR APPLE in Taiwan.

      However, that's not to say that Taiwanese companies didn't do the design work for the LCDs (probably Korea actually), the hard drives, the bluetooth modules (since almost every single one is from CSR or broadcom), CD/DVD recorders, actual battery cells (not controllers), LCD inverters, and discrete components.

  5. Likely precautionary... by mercuryresearch · · Score: 4, Informative

    There was a serious, big-time oversupply of chip sets last quarter. This shortage could likely be the chip set suppliers being cautious -- the last time something like this happened we were swimming in finished notebooks for more than a quarter and it had a fairly negative impact on Intel and AMD's operations for about six months.

  6. ODM, not OEM by VeneficusAcerbus · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's technically Original Design Manufacturer.

  7. Meanwhile....... by twfry · · Score: 3, Informative

    Intel is sitting on a record +3 Billion in inventory. If they have a shortage anywhere it means their managment have lost their minds.

  8. Hmm... recalls could be a problem too.... by Justice8096 · · Score: 3, Informative

    There have been quite a few recalls of laptops because of overheating (such as Toshiba) - this could also have an effect in the shortage instead of just "demand".
    Fortunatly, I bought an AMD based notebook after 3 laptop meltdowns, and it has had less problems than the Intel ones (even though it is a Compaq, and they have always given me overheating problems before). So I am not going back to Intel based machines ever again.

  9. Taiwan != developing economy by Glowing+Fish · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Intel (for example) has its headquarters in Portland, Oregon where I live. I've been walking around Portland today, and I seem to not have noticed any bullet trains. Also, there are still these coin operated pay phones. The traffic lights don't even tell you how much longer you have to cross the street. 7-11s don't have doors that slide automatically. Not even half of people have broadband! And if I was to take a bus ride for 200 miles, I wouldn't get my own easy chair and television set, for ten dollars. Also, Portland doesn't have the tallest skyscraper in the world.

    Taiwan is perhaps not the most developed economy in the world, but it is hardly a "developing" economy. In some things, they are behind us, in some things they are about the same, and in some things, they are way ahead. Their croissants are certainly good and cheap.

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  10. Re:Alienware by Zorilla · · Score: 4, Funny

    This explains so much. I ordered a Laptop from alienware last month and they say they are still missing parts and won't start building it for another two weeks. Punks!!

    Supernatural forces are helping you to avoid spending $4000 on a $1100 machine.

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  11. Manufacturing has little to do with it. by poptones · · Score: 5, Informative

    PC boards are manufactured on automated assembly lines by machines. Very little of the work outside loading the machines and tending the reflow ovens is actually done by humans.

    Quality, in this case, comes from testing. You test devices as much as you need to get your scores up, then ship the unit. This offends the heck out of a lot of old school engineers, but it's still a fact of modern life. Testing individual chips adds pennies to each device; testing the pc boards much more, then repairing them and retesting adds more still. At a certain point it becomes cheaper just to expect x% of your product to be returned under warranty, bin it, and ship a new (also untested) replacement. This is the tact increasingly taken by manufacturers including biggies like Dell and (especially since the takeover by emachines) Gateway. Cutting back on quality means cutting back on labor costs in testing, not so much cutting back on materials costs.

    Buying a high end tv or stereo is pretty much the same these days: very little differentiation comes from what's on the inside. If you're willing to do your own Q&A before the warranty expires, brand matters almost nothing.

    This, BTW, is the primary reason so many folks like "vintage" things. These things were made before quality became a mathematical afterthought, and devices that have survived intact all these years represent the cream of their respective crops.