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Preview of KDE 3.4

comforteagle writes "In this month's KDE: From the Source George Staikos details what is to be expected from the upcoming 3.4 version of KDE. An Alpha release is due any minute so you might as well know what you're in for if you're a loyal K head. Some changes include major rework within KHTML & Konqueror, Subversion support, and Apple's Rendezvous."

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  1. In Korea, only old people ... by Koyaanisqatsi · · Score: -1, Troll

    In Korea, only old people preview Kde

  2. some KDE myths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    The KDE project is famous for its funded and organised trolling of weblogs and
    message board associated with Linux and Free software/open source. Outrageous newbie
    impressing claims are made for the software and huge quanities of FUD are spread to
    destroy competitors. If this sounds familiar, then you are correct, most of these
    tactics were lifted straight from Microsoft's arsenal of dirty tricks. The Windows
    look and feel is not the only thing the KDE project has copied! In this short article
    I will address some of the lies and FUD spread by the KDE trolling teams. It is my
    hope that this, in some small way, will redress the balance and re-introduce two
    things almost eradicated by the KDE project: Honesty and facts.

    Myth #1 - KDE is more integrated than GNOME

    The oft-heard cry of the noisiest KDE advocates. No explanation is given, the reader
    is expected to simply grok the wholesomeness of KDE and the lack of this mystical
    quality in GNOME. It is nonsense of course. Neither desktop is particularly
    "integrated" compared to Windows XP, and certainly not compared any version of the
    Apple Mac. Whatever "integrated" actually means.

    Myth #2 - KDE is easier to use

    Again, such nebulous arguments are never explained, and the reader is expected to
    simply understand the truth of the zealots statement. Both KDE and GNOME have
    user-interface irritations (all systems do), but "ease of use" is not a simple thing
    to measure. KDE has never been subjected to detailed user testing, unlike GNOME
    [gnome.org] [gnome.org], and the claims of user-friendliness are from crazed
    supporters and not average users. Furthermore, the KDE faithful rarely look beyond
    simple-minded copying of Windows, and forget that administering a desktop system is
    just as important as having widgets in the correct place on the toolbar. For example:
    What about application installation and removal? GNOME has the excellent RedCarpet by
    Ximian [ximian.com] [ximian.com], which makes the installation, removal and updating
    of applications trivial. KDE users are expected to fend for themselves with brutal
    command line driven systems. GNOME also has the excellent Ximian setup tools to
    handle various tricky cross-platform and potentially risky system configuration
    operations. KDE offers none of this, only a few small half-assed Linux-only tools,
    which make no attempt at check-pointing to return to known working configurations.

    Myth #3 - KDE is more popular

    In what sense? Arguably more people use KDE, but it is a close run thing. Most KDE
    zealots use the results of online polls as proof of their superior userbase - which
    is, quite frankly, complete and utter nonsense. Online polls are the joke of the
    century; it doesn't even require a motivated script kiddie to render then worthless.
    A single post alerting the faithful on a zealot-ridden site can skew the result so
    much it makes American presidential elections look fair and well organised.
    Popularity is also difficult to measure when *both* GNOME and KDE are frequently
    installed on the same system. The systems can co-exist and even run at the same time,
    except for certain applications such as panels. Many KDE users actually run GNOME
    applications for their superior features and stability, not realising that by doing
    so they are barely running KDE at all.

    One of the few solid measures of popularity is commercial use of a desktop, and here,
    GNOME is far ahead with both Hewlett Packard and Sun committing to using GNOME as the
    desktop for their Unix systems. This also ties in with the previously mentioned ease
    of use. Sun's major contribution to the GNOME project is in the areas of
    user/developer documentation, testing, accessiblity and user-testing. Three of the
    less glamourous parts of desktop development. The arrival of the GNOME 2.x series
    will see these contributions reach fruitition and allow GNOME to make a quantum leap
    ahead of KDE in most of t

  3. Does it have a proper exchange handler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Does it have proper exchange support in korganiser and kmail?.. if not then whats the point of the new version hahehehe. j/k

  4. COREA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    KEKEKEKEK err um CECECECE

  5. Needs less bloat! by liber8ed · · Score: -1, Troll

    KDE has a lot of potential, but even KDE 3.3 is buggy, slow and bloated with useless features.

    Instead of adding more feature, why not try to fix the one already added and make it more efficient and streamlined

  6. Re:Real Window Managers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    If you want to see one, code it. Otherwise, shaddap and stop your whining and get a job.

  7. Re:autorefresh by strredwolf · · Score: 0, Troll

    Both Konquerer, and KHTML doesn't impliment the HTML Meta-Refresh tag directive.

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  8. GNAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    GNOME sucks!

  9. again, a lack of priorities. by chasingporsches · · Score: 0, Troll

    although the screenshots show that the UI is getting better, the UI of KDE and GNOME is still severely not user-friendly.

    my message to KDE and GNOME developers:
    put more emphasis on usability if you don't want linux to fall in a few years.

    i know linux inside and out. i am extremely comfortable with the OS, have been using it for years... but i don't use it on any of my computers at home. why? because using KDE or GNOME or any other WM for linux makes me want to dig out my eyeballs with a spork. so i use mac os x... i've tried yellowdog many times, but it just doesnt work. KDE and GNOME are ugly, hard to use, and don't come close to the user-friendliness of windows or mac os x. i usually am a linux apologist (especially to those who knock it) but there's no use BSing a crowd of linux users. the UI sucks. and i'm sure a bunch of 13 year olds who just installed red hat 7 on their parents old PII-350 are going to rebut saying i don't know what i'm talking about... but from a CS student's perspective, the UI needs a LOT of help.