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AP Reports Young People Use The Internet

prostoalex writes "You read a lot of stories about older generation either adopting or having troubles with Internet. But some people in this world cannot imagine their everyday life without Internet. The kids who went to school during the early days of the Web are now going to colleges and are demanding broadband, downloading music, sharing photos and posting to Web logs, Associated Press says. Most of the everyday tasks, like homework and job search, have migrated to the Web as well. According to the latest data, 188.5 million Americans and more than 1 billion people globally are online."

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  1. Ok... by krymsin01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Where's the news in this? A story on slashdot about the fact that there are people out there in the world who can't imagine not having net access? Look who you are talking to here...

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  2. I guess it depends on your country by Viol8 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here in the UK there seems to be a shift in younger children (not late teens) back to more sporting activities , outdoor games etc and away from the computer/console. Also the use of the computer and internet in schools seems to have been a bit of white elephant as letting kids just surf is no substitute for proper teaching.

    1. Re:I guess it depends on your country by Tim+C · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I bet you'd struggle to find one in 50 who had ever even written a hello world in qbasic, one in 500 who could do the same in C

      And what has that to do with a person's ability to use a computer as a teaching aid? If they're supposed to be teaching computing then sure; if they're just supposed to be *teaching*, though, and are using the computer as another tool, like exercise books and a blackboard are tools, then what does it matter? As long as they *can* use it, they should be fine.

    2. Re:I guess it depends on your country by HoldenCaulfield · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While I agree in spirit with what you've said, it's worth noting that for computers to effectively be used in the classroom, we're asking a lot of our teachers. In my mind, for a school to justify using a computer in the classroom as a teaching aid, a teacher has to be comfortable with the tech, realize that a computer crashing isn't the end of the world, and then come up with innovative ways to use a computer, so it's not just a glorified blackboard. In my experience teaching, most schools (K-12) are still at the point where computers (and more tech oriented stuff in general) are just sort of gee-whiz devices, with lots of bells and whistles.

      There's definitely still a lot of entrenched teachers who are thinking "Why bother?" when it comes to computers, as there may be relucatnace to learn something new, and also the benefits from bothering to learn it are slim to none - i.e. they've been teaching for 20 years, and it's worked so far, why switch now?

      Part of me thinks it's going to take a killer app of sorts for computers to really take off as learning tools - classroom management you already see them being used (worksheets, networked grade programs, e-mail, etc), but as teaching devices, they're not quite there . . .

      Anyway, to get back to the original "hello world" example, teachers who can do that, are going to be more likely to take risks and experiment using the technology in the classroom, than the teacher who all they can do is use the internet and office apps. So, there is definitely some benefit to having teachers who are traditional hackers of sorts . . . though it's disappointing sometimes to realize how few teachers are like this . . .

  3. Re:Duh by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't be silly, Old people use email.

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  4. Obvious by bobbagum · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's an appropriate use of the Obvious tag for once. Hang on a minute... Oopse, Wrong site...

  5. young savviest ... by foobsr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Young people are now the savviest of the tech-savvy,...

    Yes, from my point of view, especially those who have failed to learn their native language ...

    CC.

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  6. News for /. by oexeo · · Score: 4, Funny

    The dictionary called, it wants its definition of redundant back.

  7. Holy Captain Obvious Batman! by chadpnet · · Score: 4, Funny
    In other breaking news:

    • We landed on the moon
    • We pulled out of vietnam
    • Reagan won his second term
    • stay tuned as more develops, I'm going to go figure out how to program my VCR...
  8. The kids... by Oligonicella · · Score: 5, Funny

    "who went to school during the early days of the Web are now going to colleges and are demanding broadband, downloading music, sharing photos and posting to Web logs"

    Then discovering, to their sorrow, that these services are not free, but were provided to them by their parents. Grow the hell up.

  9. Is this a good thing? by cozziewozzie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For the longest time, I thought that the free exchange of information that the Internet brings would ensure that good ideas get spread, and that the overall knowledge of its users would rise as a result of being exposed to better information. What seems to have happened, though, is that people who use internet got stupider. Nobody can spell anymore (it's considered 'cool' to screw up even the most orthographically simple words). Arguments on internet boards (with a few exceptions) are getting stupider, and people who would get a good spanking IRL are turning into the most obnoxious flamers. Instead of using the vast amounts of information available to them to reexamine their views, people seek out only the articles and sites which support their already cemented opinions, with little regard to critical thought.

    Sadly, it seems that, while the Internet was ready to face the challenges of global information exchange 20 years ago, we are not nearly at that stage yet. Simply providing the tools hasn't helped the society as a whole to improve our level of communication, or to expand our knowledge through the availability of information (fringe groups like scientists excluded). Because of this reason, I'm wondering whether Internet in schools will serve the purpose I originally believed it would serve, or if it will simply produce a new army of AOL and MSN Messenger trolls.

  10. "These kids today" by RealProgrammer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    More generally, each generation is more adept at using the technology it grew up using, and less adept at using what its forebears had.

    My grandfather's generation toasted bread on a stove or in an oven, usually burning wood. They got electricity in their homes so they could go hi-tech and use a toaster. Well, they needed lights, too, but perfect toast was a big draw.

    I'm a tail-end Boomer, born in 1963. My dad's generation could do trigonometry on a slide rule; I need a calculator.

    Dad knew FORTRAN and BASIC. I know many computer languages.

    I got my first computer, a TRS-80 Model II, in 1977. I learned BASIC and a little Z80 assembler. I needed to learn programming just to use the machine.

    My kids have had, as long as they can remember, at least one computer in the house, usually networked together and with Internet access. They don't know any programming languages; they haven't needed to learn any to use the computer.

    To my generation, computers were nerdy. To theirs, computers are more like TVs or toasters: part of the furniture.

    Recently I gave my 16-year-old daughter, who's not a nerd, a new computer, running Linux. I told her it was different, but that it was Free. Being an idealist, she thought that was Just Totally Cool. A day later she told me proudly that she had her CD collecton "programmed in" so that it had all the information about the tracks and artists for all her tunes.

    It's just part of the furniture.

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  11. Re:The news is their stats are fucked up by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Insightful
    While we're at it - another misleading stat:
    10% of under-teenagers have their own Web site
    According to this http://esa.un.org/unpp/index.asp?panel=2, world population by age (original figures were in thousands, so added 3 zeroes:
    Year:2000
    0-4 617,204,000
    5-9 606,072,000
    10-14 604,898,000 (so, split in half, say 302,449,000)
    Obviously, there's not 1.5 billion web sites for kids under 13. It's only when you click through the link that you see this:
    Grunwald Associates finds that 10% of children ages six to 17 in the US have their own Web site.
    So, 2 more flaws. The "stats" are US-only. And, lLast I looked, kids between 13 and 17 were not "under-teenagers".
    #ifndef CLICKZ_STATS
    #define CLICKZ_STATS

    #ifndef FALSE
    #define FALSE 0
    #endif

    #define CLICKZ_STATS_FACTS FALSE
    #define CLICKZ_STATS_BRAINS NULL
    #define PATH_TO_CLICKZ_STATS_RAW_DATA "/dev/urandom"
    #define WHERE_TO_FILE_CLICKZ_STATS_STORIES "/dev/null"

    #endif
    Monday morning. It figures.
  12. Worse in Universities by gad_zuki! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are some other faults with the networked/digital classroom.

    Powerpoint. I swear, PPT presentations make me more ignorant of the material. Professors just go wild with them, adding little obnoxious photos and animated borders, yet the entire "presentation" is about a page of text. Worse, most profs seem to do this for the sake of technology, as if having a projector in the room means they have no choice but to make useless powerpoint presentations.

    Some even abuse it, treating powerpoint as their personal publishing house with terrible results. There's a reason why they won't publish your textbook, ya know.

    The digital campus gets a bit ironic in a way when students have to print out all these files from various locations thus getting even farther away from the so-called paperless solution.

    When I first went to school we had books, lectures, notes, and labs (depending on the class). Now I have to print out all sorts of powerpoints, which are considered notes, take notes on the "notes," watch teaching skills fly out the window as profs just click the mouse and repeat bullet points like marketing execs, bring a laptop with me if I want to do anything productive, etc.

    I'm sure there's a good middle ground, but right now it seems computers in the classroom are still in the gimmick stage. The real advatages are outside the classroom, like websites with class info, grades, etc. Inside, its a mess.