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The Boy Who Would Live Forever
The original novel Gateway, published in 1976, was a Hugo and Nebula award winner and quickly burned itself into the memory of many SF readers. It told the story of the discovery of an asteroid full of alien (the Heechee) ships. The ships are completely functional, but with no way to decode the navigation controls the only possible trips are... well... mysterious. Desperate prospectors from a poverty- and famine-stricken Earth travel to the Gateway asteroid (as it becomes known) to take a trip in a Heechee ship hoping to find something unusual, and perhaps earn themselves a share in the Gateway Corporation. Some never return; some return only after their food and oxygen has long run out; some are sent to destinations that kill the occupants of the craft; a lucky few return to enormous wealth. Later books in the series expanded on the premise and the reasons why the Heechee abandoned many of their vessels and tunnels and vanished.
The Boy Who Would Live Forever is the sixth book in the series. The word 'series' stirs up thoughts of those interminable fantasy or SF series that are pumped out at regular intervals for cash. Gateway books, on the other hand, are pretty rare things:
- Gateway (1976)
- Beyond the Blue Event Horizon (1980)
- Heechee Rendezvous (1984)
- Annals of the Heechee (1987)
- The Gateway Trip (1990)
- The Boy Who Would Live Forever: A Novel of Gateway (2004)
So a new one is something to look forward to -- at least for me.
The Boy Who Would Live Forever (TBWWLF) begins with the story of Stan, a young man growing up virtually penniless in Istanbul. After his father dies he inherits a life insurance payoff that is just enough to take him and a friend to Gateway. Unfortunately Stan's long-awaited first trip in a Heechee ship comes to nothing. Even worse, he returns to Gateway to find that the secret of Heechee ship navigation has been cracked. No more wild rides into the unknown... and no more big payoffs. But Stan somehow finds himself on a Gateway trip that will make him one of the first humans to find the elusive Heechee.
Other narrative threads involve Gelle-Klara Moynlin: a character from previous books who spent time trapped and frozen in time at the event horizon of a black hole. Marc Anthony: an artificial intelligence, Gourmet cook, and numerous other talents besides. Wan: a rich spoiled psychotic who grew up on a Heechee artifact (the child of stranded Gateway prospectors) and his attempt to get get hold of a weapon capable of destroying a star. Sigfried von Shrink: the A.I psychotherapist from the first Gateway novel makes a repeat appearance. That rarest of things, a mentally unstable Heechee: made that way, unsurprisingly, by having to live with humans. And more details on the Kugels -- or "The Foe" as the Heechee call them -- a race of energy creatures hell-bent on eliminating organic intelligences.
Like most of Pohl's work, TBWWLF has plenty of humour and insight. Cultural misunderstandings between the amiable Heechee and the slightly clueless Stan provide plenty of opportunity for sly jokes, and Wan's obsession with getting back "his" Old Ones (the Australopithecus pre-humans he grew up with on the Heechee artifact) and their lack of personal hygiene are played for a few gags.
Despite being a novel, TBWWLF has been constructed from a number of short stories ("From Istanbul to the Stars", "In the Steps of Heroes", "A Home for the Old Ones", "Hatching the Phoenix") with original material added to tie them together. This is the cause of its only major fault: it is quite disjointed. Some of that is inevitable given that a big chunk part of the novel takes place within a black hole. But even allowing for the difficulties of stitching together a story from threads crossing a time dilation of 40,000:1... in which some of your characters only experience a week or two while others experience a thousands years... the novel still does not hold together satisfactorily as a story. There are entire chapters devoted to a faster-than-light trip to watch the Crab Nebula supernova occur and see the occupants of a planet of that system in its final days. Fascinating it may be (and it is), but it never really feels like part of the novel. The varied threads do eventually come together to provide a conclusion of sorts, but taken as a whole the book is really more of a tour of the Gateway universe.
However, I don't want to give the impression that this is a bad thing. Anyone familiar with the earlier books will find plenty to enjoy. Much of TBWWLF is concerned with filling in the gaps left by previous books -- such as telling the story of humanity's first contact with the Heechee, and some of the religious implications of machine storing humans when their organic bodies run out. New readers, though, might find themselves a bit lost among all the A.Is, downloaded humans, prayer fans, Ones, Twos and Fives.
The Boy Who Would Live Forever does have its faults as a novel, but it is a genuinely enjoyable read and it is a welcome addition to the Gateway series. One can only hope that Pohl is able to continue it.
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My amateur review:
Even though I haven't read the initial segments of the serious (I certainly will do now), I really enjoyed this book, and wasn't lost at despite my lack of knowledge of events in the prior installments, and the fairly complex themes. The science seems to suspend disbelief a hell of a lot more than most Sci-Fi books I've read, that was one of the important things that set it apart from other close contenders in my opinion. It's got an extremely dark nature about it, appealing to me, but that's down to particular tastes. In the end: turns out he doesn't live forever. To summarize: enthralling, dark, and humours read, with imaginative, and believable science.
Amazon.com has the first six pages on their website.
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"Encyclopedia" is to "Wikipedia" what "Library" is to "Some people at a bus stop"
Is it just me, or does that sound like it should be the title of a Heinlein book?
Ok, I have to start by saying that I really enjoy Frederik Pohl's writing. Gateway, Annals of the Heechee and now The Boy Who Would Live Forever are all interesting books with unusual twists and refreshing new ideas. This book crosses many genres and should appeal readers of all of them: sci fi, tech thriller, and romance. To start, this book goes into great depth about the computer industry. I have to assume whatever Frederik Pohlis writing about is viable and true because I do not have a deep understanding of computers, programming, and other related fields.
Let me move on here to the characters. I had a real problem in the beginning of the story. Stan was just so far out there that I had no sympathy with him at all. It took a long time to drag me back around to appreciate him and even then, in the end, I am still not sure that this was accomplished. Marc Anthony on the other hand was an incredible character. Every scene he was in, he stole the show. I kept reading to see his character develop and mature.
My biggest problems come about with the relationship that grows between these two characters. It kept crossing my mind that Stan looks at this relationship as a mother/child one. (At least at first). That they get romantically involved, brings up some issues I was a little uncomfortable with. I have to say, if nothing else, this book is thought provoking. I enjoyed reading it.
The reviewer decides to bash book series that come out more frequently than once every four years, implying that they are just out for money.
Now, Robert Jordan is one thing. But if you can manage to get past that you will find some great series fantasy that does go to print more frequently. Some great examples are:
(1) George R R Martin's Song of Ice and Fire. This is my favorite series of all. The characters are realistic, the story draws you in, and the outcome is anything but expected. I could only wish that these books came out every month.
(2) Orson Scott Card's Ender's Game and Tales of Alvin Maker series. Card is a great storyteller who dreams up tales that capture your imagination with stories of what might have been or what might be.
(3) David Duncan's Tale of the King's Blades series mixes swordplay with interesting storylines. The books are truly exciting recounts of great adventures.
I'd just like to point out that some of the "other" series out there are more than just cash cows.
When will Robert Jordan ever finish his series?
Are suggested reading for any SF fan. Very strong stories, certainly thougt-provoking.
The Gateway corperation is involved in the story? Do they buy up a crappy computer company called E-Machines in an effort to thwart their inevitible bankrupcy?
Electrons are free; it is moving them that becomes expensive.
Now, was the boy from Istanbul, or was he from Constantinople?
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I'm really bummed that his Eschaton books didn't capture the public's imagination quite the way the Heechee books did. Well, perhaps they weren't quite as good, but they were darned good, and still don't feel quite concluded.
// I will show you fear in a handful of jellybeans.
The gateway series is genial. Period.
Once, I readed that Pohl asked Asimov permission to continue the Foundation Saga (in the 70's decade), and Asimov considered this offer, and finally denied it.
Seeing how Pohl has become a better writer with the years, and the crap that it is anything Foundation written after the original trilogy, I think this is the single greatest lost opportunity of the science fiction,
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We have a reviewer who admits to being a fan and basically says there is no story is not that good but its still worth buying and hopes the author can carry on with same. WTF sort of review is that?
I can only take from this that while the original idea had some merit this book must really suck.
Why do no reviewers here ever say do not buy this book, its not that good?
Do not try to read the dupe, thats impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth
What truth?
There is no dupe
I read this book last weekend and found it a light read, and somewhat disappointing. More detail could have been added to "Wans'" Vastening, in that I wished that we could have seen further into his hastily done procedure and also more into his adaptation and development of his surroundings, instead of jumping into the Kill the Heechee, right off the bat scenario. I dunno, it seemed to be more of a get-er-done than a really good wrap up, like all of the other books. I mean I have read the other Heechee books several times, and they were page turners all the way through, and the stories made you want to jump right into the next novel in the series. I didn't getthe feeling with this one.
My cat's picked up a Hammer. HEY! Put down that Hammer. Put Down that Hamm...THUNK!
I've never read the above book, but it reminds me of a very insightful book called "The Sparrow" by Maria Doria Russell. It is about a group of missionaries traveling to another planet via a spaceship built out of an asteroid. The characters are really fleshed out and the themes are something to chew on. It's basically about why you shouldn't break the star trek prime directive. It also debates science versus religion in a very thoughtful manner.
Here's the amazon review:
In 2019, humanity finally finds proof of extraterrestrial life when a listening post in Puerto Rico picks up exquisite singing from a planet which will come to be known as Rakhat. While United Nations diplomats endlessly debate a possible first contact mission, the Society of Jesus quietly organizes an eight-person scientific expedition of its own. What the Jesuits find is a world so beyond comprehension that it will lead them to question the meaning of being "human." When the lone survivor of the expedition, Emilio Sandoz, returns to Earth in 2059, he will try to explain what went wrong... Words like "provocative" and "compelling" will come to mind as you read this shocking novel about first contact with a race that creates music akin to both poetry and prayer.
release-early, release-often approach
I'm looking at you, Robert Jordan.
I would trade the Wheel of Time books 24-45 for A Feast for Crows.
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Do you call it Istanbul, Constantinople or Byzantium? Is it in Europe or Asia?
Any way you look at it, this city resists labelling.
Absolutely. In fact George R. R. Martin's page on how "A Feast For Crows" is coming along is one of the few web pages I check regularly. Maybe done by the end of the year he says now. Ah, anticipation.
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
See what I've been reading.
I have read this book and I think a more accurate review is found on amazon.com
A favorite SF novel of mine is Harry Harrison's "One Step From Earth." Each chapter is a short story more or less centered around a method of instantaneous teleportion between any two points in the Universe. The first chapter tells of the initial discovery. Each subsequent chapter takes place further and further in the future. No real dates are given, but some of the jumps appear to be thousands, if not tens of thousand of years. Collectively they sketch out a basic history of humanity, and how teleportion shaped that history.
--- Ban humanity.
On the OP's criticism "of those interminable fantasy or SF series that are pumped out at regular intervals for cash": Fans of Sci-Fi and Fantasy genre fiction should all be aware of the Baen free library , a simple and admirable approach to genre fiction. Check out the first (few) books of a series free, and if you like it, you can buy the rest on paper or electronically and in a non-DRM'd format. Finally a publisher who gets it!
So, if you're a fan, check out the site, and if you're a writer looking to get published in Fantasy/Sci-fi fiction, look to Baen first and foremost as a geek-friendly and utterly avant-guard publisher. I will grant that I've only paid for 1 e-book from Baen heretofore (having read 4-5 freely), but that would definately have been 0 sales instead of 1 if they had not instituted the free library, so I still hold that the concept works and is fair. This is a system where you only pay for quality genre writing and I think that's exactly what a lot of readers have been waiting for.
Indeed, if this is a compendium of earlier works, stitched together with some new text, that question is up for debate. He's got to be in better shape, though, than was Larry Niven when he took on the later [awful] Ringworld novels...
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What the fuck is this at +5 For?!
The length of time between books is just an author thing and not really anything else. David Gerrold has been promising book 5 in the war against the chtorr series for over 10 years, the first 4 being 83-85-89-93. While David Weber is cranking out an Honor Harrington book every year.
Perhaps what is needed more than another author and a series are about 10 new sci-fi authors with new ideas.
Reality is all that stuff that doesn't care if you believe in it or not.--Solomon Short
Niven is about twenty years younger than Pohl.
I last saw Pohl in '97: Wrinkled, moved slowly, bad spine, but still full of piss and vinegar. (We'd put him on a panel with Vinge about the Singularity. Pohl thought the idea was as dumb as a bag of hammers, although I believe he anticipated the idea in his 1966 short story "Day Million.")
Last saw Niven around 2000. (He was plugging _Ringworld Throne_, which would nail the date down.) Looked late middle age.
If Niven's later Ringworld stuff is crappy, it's perhaps because he's not all that interested in the setting any more. Just going through the motions to keep the franchise going.
Now, Niven and Pohl are pretty much on opposite sides of the political spectrum. Pohl was a boy communist (mostly for the dating opportunities) and a Democratic party worker. Niven . . . well, he's a Mulholland on his mother's side of the family. As in Mulholland Drive and old oil money. Niven's co-writer for many years was Jerry "Ghengis Khan was a damned liberal!" Pournelle.
At this last appearance I caught, someone in the audiance asked Niven what SF authors he think should be put on a Presidential advisory panel in the case of alien contact. Paraphrasing: "I'd have to think about it, but to begin with it sure as hell should include Frederick Pohl."
I thought that was pretty neat.
Stefan
Several years ago I had to honor to meet Frederik Pohl at a science convention. After talking to him for a while, I discovered him to be an absolute gentleman. Finding an author that treats fans like that is a great surprise. So, there are two reasons to buy his books: his books are great and to support a great author.
I used to be biggest fan of this religious nut.
I own 76 pohl books, many original era printings of them, and I own his memoir, signed by him.
I loved them all.
Then he released a novel before this one recently, and it had christianity poluting the plot!!!!
not one reference to religion existed in ANY of his books EVER!
His books are devoid of magic and jesus etc etc
but i was so horrified by the semile ramblings of a fallen hero that i vowed to NEVER EVER let any more of his current writings destroy my view of him before he ruined a perfect carreer.
no other SF author kept religion out of all works as well as pohl.
i will not buy this book. not at all.
i will cherish ALL the 76 pohl books i painstakingly collected and purchased.... many of the old paperbacks crumbling.... but no more will i ever be tricked.
i was his biggest fan
but that was before he allowed jesus into his festering senile old mind.
Pohl is little different. I have bought and read every Pohl Book. He is an enjoyable light read, but still a pulp writer. Gateway is cool, but if Pohl is writing this instead of something else it is to leverage the Gateway brand.
So, to summarize, it is no sin for a writer to write for cash. It is no sin for a writer to write while the idea is fresh in his or her head. Often the regularity of a series has more to do with the abilities of the writer than the availability of cash. The problem with some series, in fact, is that they are designed and written by committee, rather than the coherent creation of a brilliant mind. For the less literary folks, think Friends versus Absolutely Fabulous. Or that special season of B5 as compared to the others.
In literature it is more often useful to focus on the use of the language, creative use of the medium, and overcoming limitations, rather than if the author received a quid for the effort.
(One final thing. According to a forward by Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451 was written to pay the bills, in one run, at a rented typewriter, Maybe the threat of starvation does help motivate the writer. As it does us all.)
"She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
i got myself a book back in 2002(???)
it was a collection of shorts/novellas by soem of the top writers to expand the universes they created.
Brin wrote about some of the dolphins from the Uplift Universe, Card wrote about how Ender met Jane, McCaffrey wrote a coda to "the ship who sang" and pohl WROTE THIS AS A SHORT. (there were others but those were my favourites)
now the question is, did he write the short and say "hey this would make a great novel", or when he got the offer to do the compilation did he just hack the novel into a core book and put it out???
of course i haven't read the book, so i can't say
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or one out of three ain't bad
Before you pay any more money to Card, read his Hypocrites of Homosexuality .
"It is our blasphemy which has made us great, and will sustain us, and which the gods secretly admire in us." - Zelazny
1. I'd guess you're either german or french since in these languages it's not uncommon to say "c'est génial" or "das ist genial" which literally would be translated to "that's ingenius". A fitting translation would be "that's cool".
2. "I readed" should simply be "I read" pronounced "red".
3. "in the 70's decade" , no "decade", just "the 70s"
enough of being the local grammer nazi! (especially since I always make mistakes myself...)
Your point concerning Asimov is interesting. I have only read the Foundation Trilogy, so I don't know what the sequels are like. Too bad Asimov didn't take Pohls offer. I suppose the sequels were written by other authors (than Asimov). Did he decide on them or the publishers?
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The sequel is also excellent: Children of God. It follows the same doubting protagonist, but introduces a more philosophic and hopeful theology.
Both books together are truly great works of literary SF.
Microsoft is to software what Budweiser is to beer.
And BTW, Franz Schubert wrote "Ave Maria" for his supper. He was invited to eat with a wealthy patron and then told he had to produce a piece of work before he could sit down. Writers and artists work for money. Hard to pay the bills with sunshine.
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Every girl in Constantinople
Is in Istanbul, not Constantinople.
So if you're for days in Constantinople
Show me how to get to Istanbul!
Clearly the Stan is a boy, and is, therefore, in Constantinople.
Sounds good. I would like to read it.