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Tougher Copyright Laws for Australia

smee2 writes "The Age reports Tougher copyright laws linked to the Australia-US free trade agreement (FTA) have been passed by the Australian parliament, AAP reports. The bill, which passed the Senate last night, will enable people other than copyright owners to force internet service providers to take down material allegedly infringing copyright."

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  1. the wild wild west by u-238 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    that is the internet will not last forever. cherish it.

    1. Re:the wild wild west by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No the internet cannot survive, if people were forced to obey corrupt intellectual slavery laws.

      I"P" is censorship.

  2. From TFA... by ttys00 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Asked whether the US would not object to such watering down, Coroneos said it was a case of treading another fine line. "We are meeting Mr Vaile tonight in Canberra to work on the regulations which would be used to soften the bill," he said.

    Who cares if the US objects to laws in Australia? How is it any of the their business?

    1. Re:From TFA... by mabinogi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Canberra doesn't need anything other than for other Australians to recognise that Canberra has nothing whatsoever to do with what goes on under that aluminium monstrosity on the hill.

      Canberra voted Labor - both Federally and Locally, as it almost always does...

      I think you meant to say "The Federal Government"

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  3. Re:Potential Problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I see this as a posible way to silence people. If they say something you don't like, just claim that they are infringing on a copyright. I'm sure you could find something somewhere for anything.

  4. From your friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dear Australia,

    Stop following our example. IT IS NOT A GOOD ONE.

    Your friend,
    The U.S.

  5. A recent book... by Evil+Pete · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... even highlighted the main issues. How to Kill a Country. A bit dramatic but the agreement undermines some crucial aspects of our sovereignty. The PM (Prime Minister) laughed off the IP issues as just "technical matters". Yeah right. Shafted a-fucking-gain.

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  6. FTAs and why they suck by initialE · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm in Singapore, which is also in a bilateral FTA with the USA. My concern is that the FTAs that are being pushed through are actually a blatant attempt to enforce american law in countries where they have no prior influence over. If you're looking for a governing body over the entire internet, there it is, America is becoming the Nazi that will police the cyberstate of the Internet(s!). Of course, living in the commie state that I do, you'll never hear any of these concerns voiced over the mass media channels, which are all but overflowing with praise for the government and their clever negotiating of this FTA. Fear.

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  7. Re:Our new overlords.. by polysylabic+psudonym · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A bit of a broad brush, perhaps. Please don't say "the people in Canberra". I'm a Canberran, I'm not a politician and I'm certainly not a dog.

    I utterly despise US style copyright. It's a travesty of freedom.

    Copyright should be there to encourage authors - how does paying their publisher 70 years yonder help the author?

    Under the previous Australian system authors got 50 years after their death, companies got 50 years from date of publication. May terrible things happen to those who put Australia in the position we're now in.

  8. Re:Globalisation by Zonnald · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Capitalism does not kill people - people kill people.

  9. Re:Well, what do you expect... by deletedaccount · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You think Australia should strengthen copyright to help defend itself from an Indonesian invasion force?

    Thats one to add to the '101 easy ways to win IP trials' manual. Are you on crack?

  10. Free Trade Agreement and file sharing by thornfield · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't get it - this is a Free Trade agreement - file sharing is the acme of free trading??!

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    1. Re:Free Trade Agreement and file sharing by Hatta · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't get it - this is a Free Trade agreement - file sharing is the acme of free trading??!

      It's newspeak. Free trade isn't free. Conservatives aren't conservative. Liberals arent liberal. The PATRIOT act is unpatriotic. The war on terror is a war on freedom.

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  11. Re:Well, what do you expect... by michaeldot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He means Australia should make friends with the school bully in order to prevent getting the crap beaten out of it.

    And so to achieve this, what the school bully wants, the school bully gets.

  12. Re:Well, what do you expect... by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    M8 it's called geo-political advantage. We Aussies call it "suckinup" and Johnny is our champ at it. We do stupid shit like vote against Kyoto, support Isreal's state terror, and other such crap. Why? So the US doesn't look so fucking lonely at the UN. The "IP colonists" have been trying to use us as a testbed & springboard for a while now and have had some success. The BIG thing Australia has that the BIG boys want is strategic position.

    Obligitory: We do need overlords but I for one would much rather be welcoming back our EU overlords.

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  13. Copyright extension by Marlor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The big deal was not the copyright enforcement provision, but:

    "...the term of protection for copyright material was extended by 20 years"

    and

    "New provisions were introduced in relation to the unauthorised receipt and use or distribution of encoded broadcasts"

    These will have a real impact on IP in Australia.

  14. Re:Well, what do you expect... by fireman+sam · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And yet the Australian Govt refuse to sign a peace agreement with most of the countries around the Asia pacific area.

    Hmmm, we have fatter wallets, weaker defences, and yet we refuse to enter into peace with our neighbours.

    Eventually it will be The world versus Australia + America + England

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  15. How Does that Even Begin to Make Sense? by Jameth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did they just say that someone can request a takedown for copyright material of they don't own?

    As far as I know, it is technically impossible for anyone but the copyright holder to know if the copyright is being violated. Why? Copyrights don't have to be enforced. Most people that don't care too much about their specific copyrights just don't bother to enforce them unless there is blatant plagiarism.

    Further, how would anyone but the copyright owner know if some agreement had already been made?

    Please tell me I am just incredibly misinterpreting it (and, yes, I did RTFA) and they aren't just being mind-bogglingly stupid.

  16. Re:Well, what do you expect... by geminidomino · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "School bully" my ass.

    Hell, over here we call that kind of relationship "Prison Wife."

  17. Re:Well, what do you expect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    We do stupid shit like vote against Kyoto

    If you like having your economy regulated then go ahead and vote for Kyoto. Kyoto is the means by which your EU overlords attempt to govern your economic prosperity, and since those EU overlords are global socialists trying to redistribute wealth your wealth to some undeserving nation who will squander it, save yourself and your country. Australia made the right choice.

    support Isreal's state terror

    Moral equivalence. If you can't tell the difference between someone who straps bombs to himself and blows up innocent school children and someone who demolishes his house in return, you've been warped by the global sissies. This is how they make it acceptable to crash planes into buildings, blow up embassies, take school children hostage and murder them, and decapitate citizens of other countries among many other things

    So the US doesn't look so fucking lonely at the UN

    The UN is the only place where common base thug can put on a $4000 suit and be considered a statesman by the rest of the world. Apparently, Australia can tell the difference between those two

  18. Re:Sounds like good news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Not when the term extends to 70 years after the author's death. Even at the term of the author's death is too long. A 10 years term sounds more reasonable. What? You think your works are original and free from derivations of others' works?

  19. Re:Our new overlords.. by microsnot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "The Australian Greens and Democrats voted against the bill, saying it would impact on freedom of speech and media diversity on the internet." Strange that they should say that, especially when we don't have freedom of speech in our bill of rights.

  20. Re:Well, what do you expect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you can't tell the difference between someone who straps bombs to himself and blows up innocent school children and someone who demolishes his house in return, you've been warped by the global sissies. This is how they make it acceptable to crash planes into buildings, blow up embassies, take school children hostage and murder them, and decapitate citizens of other countries among many other things

    BS. Opposition to Israeli violence against Palestinians and opposition to Palestinian violence against Israelis are not mutually exclusive.
    Though you are taking it a step further, and equating disaproval of Israeli violence with approval of terrorism in general. This is completely absurd. Some of us are opposed to the killing of innocents, for whatever cause, be it 'Islam' or 'the War On Terror'.
    The reason the GP mentioned only Israeli violence is that the US and some of its allies actively support this violence.

    The UN is the only place where common base thug can put on a $4000 suit and be considered a statesman by the rest of the world.

    It's not the only place - what about the White House? Oh yeah, no one considers him a statesman, never mind.

  21. Predictable counter- (and counter-counter-) moves by nusratt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Next:
    increasing usage of unbreakably anonymous/encrypted p2p mechanisms.

    Then:
    prohibitions on p2p, encryption, and "non-standard" ports & protocols.

  22. Re:Creative, Lawful Retaliation? by j0e_average · · Score: 2, Insightful
    VERY EASY --


    Stop going to movies, stop buying DVDs, stop buying audio CDs. Stop fueling their campaign against you!

  23. Houses.... by TapeCutter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They do it to the relatives houses, the teenage bomber I assume is in bits. Collective punishment was a war-crime last time I checked. I don't support EITHER side and if we all did that it would never have been more than a bar brawl between Arrafat and Sharron. The Iserali's are terrorizing all Palesinians because of the crimes of some AND they are a modern state. Yes there are thugs at the UN, they stand up and say "your with us or against us" and sell weapons to all sides. It makes me want to puke that zenophobes like you applaud the same behaviour that lead six million to the gas chambers.

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  24. Re:Globalisation by KevinIsOwn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You are right that globalization means Americanization for the time being, but the rest of your post is dead wrong.

    American values become a part of other cultures because America's culture is held in high esteem. Freedom and democracy hold lots of weight in the eyes of foreigners. America does not have to force its ideals on people, they openly accept them. Take fast food chains in Europe, for example. I have spent a good amount of time in Europe, and everyone I meet says how much they hate McDonalds, but they go there anyway. You see, Europeans in particular love to hate America. They say how much they hate McDonalds as they jam a big mac (or Royal, as it is called there) down their throat.

    The same holds true for the rest of the world. The more people despise American values, the more they become a part of their culture. Just do a little research instead of spouting off your anti-americanism. Almost all the leading figures on globalization agree on this: Globalization makes it incredibly easy for cultures to adapt pieces of other cultures into their own. America's culture is looked highly upon because of its freedom and openness. Therefore it is the one that is often taken from right now. In the future it may be a different culture.

    In the mean time, go research globalization while you eat fast food, listen to crappy MTV pop, and curse America.