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New Spoofing Vulnerability in IE

Jimmy M. writes "A new vulnerability has been announced in Internet Explorer, also affecting XP SP2, which can very easily be exploited by a malicious web site to completely spoof the address bar. The vulnerability is very similar to another vulnerability disclosed just about a year ago called the '%00' vulnerability, which also was widely exploited by phishers. A demonstration is also available."

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  1. Surprisingly, a patch is already out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Get it here

    1. Re:Surprisingly, a patch is already out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      My work just installed software that disallows net access from any browser other than IE.
      Brilliant.

    2. Re:Surprisingly, a patch is already out by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 4, Informative

      If it's the IAS proxy that requires NTML authentication, you can always pipe requests through this python rewriting proxy.

      YLFI
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    3. Re:Surprisingly, a patch is already out by Trepalium · · Score: 4, Informative

      NTLM authentication works fine in recent versions of Mozilla/Firefox/Gecko, even on non-Windows platforms. Plug in the proxy server settings, and go. Firefox will ask for your proxy authentication on the first page request, and remember it until you close the browser.

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    4. Re:Surprisingly, a patch is already out by AstroDrabb · · Score: 4, Informative
      Firefox doesn't even have to prompt you for NTLM if you are logged into a windows domain. However, for security, Firefox only sends NTLM to servers you give the OK to.

      In the URL bar type about:config and then filter for "ntlm". In the network.automatic-ntlm-auth.trusted-uris just put a comma separated list of servers you want Firefox to send your NTLM to. For example, double click network.automatic-ntlm-auth.trusted-uris and put in foo.com,bar.com,slashdot.org

      The only thing I wish Firefox did was to allow a wild card domain name like *.mycompany.com. My network.automatic-ntlm-auth.trusted-uris entry has gotten pretty long at work : (

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  2. Vulnerability Confirmed on Avant Browser by Eyah....TIMMY · · Score: 5, Informative

    Using the latest version of Avant Browser, on a fully patched XP SP2 system. It seems obvious since Avant is based on IE but I thought it would be useful to know.

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    1. Re:Vulnerability Confirmed on Avant Browser by zarniwoop102939 · · Score: 5, Informative

      As suggested in the article, you can block the vulnerability in Avant by disabling ActiveX (Tools | Disable ActiveX). This is how I browse with Avant by default, along with:

      - Block Flash
      - Block Popups
      - Block Ads
      - Disable Sounds
      - Disable Videos
      - Disable Java Applets

      Makes pages load very fast, and if I need one of those functions for the page I'm on, I just toggle it on for the session.

      Between these security features and still having the compatibility of IE, that's why I love Avant so much. Yes I used Firefox for 2 weeks, and went back to Avant.

  3. Microsoft is so sweet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Everytime there's a major Firefox event, a release or New York Times ad, they chip it by having another IE vulnerability to raise awareness of Firefox. Thanks Microsoft!

    1. Re:Microsoft is so sweet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What OSS has to do is release ads to TELL people how bad IE is

      never mention your competitor in advertising
      no such thing as bad publicity, people tend to forget the details but "brand reinforcement" still applies, if you have to mention your competitor then it implies your product wont/cant stand up on its own merits = you have LOST

      just an anon advertising exec

    2. Re:Microsoft is so sweet by TheDarkener · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes, and outside of nerdville, who gives a shit about Firefox?

      Just about everyone I install Firefox for (almost all non-geeks)... People who don't give a shit just plain don't know about it. Firefox is faster, it has a nicer interface, and prevents things like popups and bad security practice within the browser environment. The people that start using Firefox by force (by me) usually thank me profusely and rave to me (and their other non-geek friends) about it within 30 minutes of using it.

      Plus, just look at the themes!! Who doesn't like themes??

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    3. Re:Microsoft is so sweet by ticklemeozmo · · Score: 5, Funny

      What OSS has to do is release ads to TELL people how bad IE is, not how good Mozilla is alongside. SCARE people into realizing that their entire way of life is AT RISK if they continue to use IE.

      Or maybe a simple 5 color-coded chart!

      RED - Browsing with IE
      ORANGE - something witty
      YELLOW - something wittier
      GREEN - Browsing with Firefox
      BLUE - Unplugging your network cable

      Firefox(tm). The next safest thing to unplugging your network connection.

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    4. Re:Microsoft is so sweet by shawb · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Woah. So that's the reason for the phrase "... than the leading brand." as in "20% more cotton than the leading brand" or whatever. I just assumed that it was to prevent litigation.

      Then again, I suppose the phrase could be used for both reasons.

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    5. Re:Microsoft is so sweet by Mr.+No+Skills · · Score: 4, Interesting

      While that may be true, your message is posted right smack dap in the middle of Nerdville -- it's central park, so to speak. You're a Republican who's walked into the middle of the Democratic convention and yelled at them to get a grip.

      Of course we'll survive. It's just the internet. But, many of us are software professionals. We care so much about this we decided to make a career of this. We care so much about this we're willing to give away our ideas as open source projects, just to share them with the world. Forgive us if we care passionately about this, and think that basic things like browsers should not have security hole after security hole till we wonder if it will ever stop.

      And, it's not even too much of a stretch. Enough people get screwed with identity theft, and the trust of the system falls apart and it ceases to be a method that many of us earn a living with. If one of the largest companies in the world can't even fix their browser, with all the resources of an almost monopoly on the market and stock options to hire every CS post graduate student on the planet -- a technology that went through its basic definition years ago -- it puts into question the entire value of software professionals.

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    6. Re:Microsoft is so sweet by SoSueMe · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There's a philosophy in politics that goes like this: "It doesn't matter what they're saying about you, as long as they're talking about you. When they stop talking about you, you are dead".

    7. Re:Microsoft is so sweet by OldManAndTheC++ · · Score: 5, Funny

      RED - Browsing with IE
      ORANGE - Giving your cat a bath
      YELLOW - Cooking bacon in the nude
      GREEN - Browsing with Firefox
      BLUE - Unplugging your network cable

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    8. Re:Microsoft is so sweet by Michalson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Comparing your product to a specific competitor in a commercial suggests to the viewer that you are either neck and neck or more frequently that you're in the #2 position. If you are the actual market leader, or you want to be the leader, you *don't* want to send that kind of message.
      Negatively advertising about your competitor (talking about why their product is bad, rather then why yours is good) is bad no matter what position in the market you're in. Instead of saying you're the underdog but people should try you out, you're saying your competitor is bad, so you're all that's left. People aren't interested in leftovers and those winning by default. If Firefox wants to successfully advertise, it should be talking about "faster browsing" without actually mentioning what it is being compared to, let alone naming Microsoft or IE.

      And that boys and girls is why the basement dwelling me too fanatics who crowd around OSS are doing far more harm to OSS adoption then good. No business is going to suddenly switch to open source as long as "OMG M$ IS TEH SUX0RS!!!!!!!" is the message crowding out any intelligent and level headed promotion of true technical and cost superiority.

    9. Re:Microsoft is so sweet by Axem · · Score: 3, Funny

      So we should be saying "OMG LINUX IS 578% MORE 1337 THAN TEH LEADING MONOPOLY!!!!" ?

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    10. Re:Microsoft is so sweet by Fortran+IV · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And of course you are quite correct--it's a matter of proportion, not of fact. I've spent a great deal of time myself ranting about Microsoft and the harm they continue to do to the industry in general. My nickname is not idly chosen; it's the language I first programmed professionally in. But even I, a former "computer professional," have been too lazy to try Firefox yet, and am just bumbling along in IE. (Although security headaches at work are probably going to force the necessary trials on me soon.)

      But I can't name any other profession in which it is possible to profitably release product after product while being completely incompetent to produce. [Ignore management; it's not their job to produce.] You don't have to be a good programmer to succeed; you only have to look good. I was taught programming by a college professor who believed--seriously believed--that having five consecutive GOTO statements was a valid result of "structured programming"! I've seen countless examples (as have most people here) of bad programming. I decided years ago that anybody who actually trusts a computer is insane. I rely on computer records; I have no choice unless I want to live in a hovel in the woods and keep all my money in a mason jar. But I don't trust them, and I never will; I've known too doggone many programmers.

      Just yesterday I had a lengthy discussion with my boss (the company owner) about why IE (and Windows in general) is so weak. With all the resources of an almost monopoly on the market, you said--that is exactly the problem. Microsoft has little motivation to do more than keep hot-patching the holes in IE and Windows instead of tearing up the whole street and laying a solid foundation. In the 1960's and 1970's, IBM stayed on top of the mainframe market despite having one of the worst OS's around, because they had the most ruthlessly effective body of marketeers anybody'd ever seen; only the virtual disappearance of the mainframe market took IBM from the top. As long as Microsoft's marketeering position stays strong, MS software will stay weak.

      Quality is good. Many people will pay for quality when they can find it; people are downright amazed when they can get quality for free. But the majority of available products are going to remain Wal-Mart quality, because the vast majority of people are still going to get whatever is on the shelf at Wal-Mart.

      And their world won't end. But its shine may tarnish a lot more easily.

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    11. Re:Microsoft is so sweet by Michalson · · Score: 4, Funny

      Good start. The main issues are that "1337", and "monopoly" may be confusing to your average consumer (they'll have no idea what "1337" is, and will be confused about why you are comparing your product to a board game)

      A fundemental rule of marketing is that your commercials should be understandable by your entire demographic (sometimes ad campaigns will use "inside jokes" if the demographic they are targeting is tight enough, but it's still risky). By using special words or concepts only known or believed by a small number of people will mean you risk (or nearly guarantee) having your commercial coming across to your audiance like The Architect from The Matrix trying to sell them car insurance - ..concordantly the 5% saved through a 2 driver plan inexorably causes a diminution of the overall non-fault accident premiums. Ergo those signing up before January 1st will...

  4. infinite popups by yali · · Score: 3, Informative
    On my computer, the exploit demo seemed to be trying to launch popups, which Google toolbar stopped, which apparently made the demo site want to throw up another popup, which Google toolbar stopped, etc. It looped up to 110 popup attempts before I managed to shut down that IE window.

    Not the advertised exploit, but pretty damn annoying in its own right.

  5. GNU WGet Multiple Remote Vulnerabilities by enosys · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No, you're not safe. Check this out. It is recent too, released on Dec 10, 2004.

  6. Geez... by TheDarkener · · Score: 3, Interesting

    To me, whenever I see a vulnerability article for IE on Slashdot, I say to myself "Man...why does that seem like it's such a trivial programming error to fix?" as opposed to when there's a vulneraibility to Firefox/all browsers, when it's something like "Wow, someone really took some time to craft that one out"...just a thought.

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  7. Re:Safari by KingOfTheNerds · · Score: 3, Informative

    Tried it all in Konqurer, and no problems at all. I hate hackers but maybe these problems will finally start driving people towards alternative browsers. My website currently gets 85% windows users and only 65% IE users. So that's a good start away from IE.

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  8. Re:Yet another reason... by Zocalo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hopefully the guys over at the mozilla.org website will take note of the current number of Firefox downloads to see what size surge this generates. I'd love to see a nice graph with key dates on it for that matter - the PR1 release, the 1.0 release, the announcement of the various IE exploits... :)

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  9. No way! by RealProgrammer · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is not a reason to use Firefox - it's useless in Firefox.

    I just clicked the demo link using Firefox 1.0, and nothing happened at ... all. Oh.

    Never mind.

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    1. Re:No way! by hazem · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Customers and potential customers should complain to those banks and bill-pay services about these security problems.

      I won't use a bank or financial service that requires IE.

  10. How long until... by dew4au · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...people start banging on Firefox hard enough to expose vulnerabilities?

    Or, is Mozilla just that good at plugging leaks before they happen?

    1. Re:How long until... by lewiz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Somehow the poster of the parent has been modded down for Trolling, regardless of the fact that it is a valid point, within the context of the article, and definitely not a troll.

      I frequently wonder what will happen as people start to shift more focus onto the software we so highly regard. Hands down Firefox is a more usable browser but I don't think it yet has the sort of attention that Internet Explorer does. Until such a time we will never truly know just how resilient Firefox is.

    2. Re:How long until... by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Informative

      The difference between Open Source and MS is that inside MS, coders who are technically employed to work on a specific part of the MS empire cannot easily supply fixes and code for inclusion inside IE. That is down to the IE team to fix. Its just the same at work, we are told to remain focused on our own tasks, no matter if colleagues on other projects are floundering.

      Once exploits start coming out for Firefox (as most reasonable people expect them to) those many eyes from around the OSS community (some MS employees included no doubt) can look upon the code and work together to cure problems. In some cases, this will mean pre-emptive fixes to bugs as they are noticed rather than waiting for major exploits.

      The team is dynamic, and expands to cover itself.
      Firefox has rapidly become the poster boy project for open source, and as such, I don't think any of us would like to see it fail.

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  11. Wine Help by anagama · · Score: 4, Funny

    I really want to try this but I have such problems getting stuff to run in wine.

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  12. IE for the mac is safe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    With Internet Explorer for the Mac hovering above the link makes the status bar say "javascript:start();", but clicking on it does absolutely nothing. Exact same result with Safari.

  13. Re:Safari by 12ahead · · Score: 3, Funny

    I just tried it with a potatoe peel. Nothing. ;) As it said.. IE. Secunia does test these things on other browsers and as they have shown in the past they are likely to come up with cross-browser exploits in the future.

  14. Re:Yet another reason... by danamania · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not only the existence of the bug, but Microsoft's attitude towards the last one like this.

    From Microsoft Help & Support. "The most effective step that you can take to help protect yourself from malicious hyperlinks is not to click them. Rather, type the URL of your intended destination in the address bar yourself. By manually typing the URL in the address bar, you can verify the information that Internet Explorer uses to access the destination Web site. To do so, type the URL in the Address bar, and then press ENTER."

    Just defeat the purpose of hyperlinks. Thanks MS!

  15. Disable ActiveX by OverlordQ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Disable ActiveX and this wont work. This exploit depends on ActiveX to run.

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  16. NYT Ad by Adrilla · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In the NYT ad, they should've added every IE bug that's been discovered since Firefox was released. I mean they are probably the biggest contributors to FF's popularity.

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  17. Maturity by confusion · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I realize IE is probably a huge codebase and a big development team, but it is simply amazing that these problems keep popping up. A company with the size and resources of MS should have a much better handle on these things.

    Where I work, we have code reviews, automated code scrubbers, and extensize QA, and we're a relatively small shop compared to them.

    I know they're trying, otherwise it would be a lot worse, and SP2 did a good bit to improve things, so I can't be that hard on them.

    Jerry
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  18. Re:Yet another reason... by azuroff · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, to check a Hotmail message, I just need to manually type

    http://by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg ?m sg=MSG1103631600.24&start=3248752&len=4735&imgsafe =n&curmbox=F000000001&a=b2cbfd3baddabfc913aacc3f36 f8590f

    in my address bar....

    Thanks, Microsoft! I needed to brush up on my typing skills.

  19. Outlook / Outlook Express? by Twintop · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if this exploit is also in Outlook and/or Outlook Express? If so, it'd be very easy for someone to send out spam with what looks like 100% legit, right down to what URL is displayed in the link when hovered and the address bar URL once opened, thanks to this exploit.

  20. Nelson Says: by djdavetrouble · · Score: 3, Funny

    (with pointed finger) Ha-Ha

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  21. Re:Some who SHOULD care do not know by NetNifty · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A college tutor who has been telling us for the last three weeks to "keep up with the industry, read magazines and web sites!" etc hadn't heard of Mozilla Firefox when I mentioned it (was a lesson on security and I said that I would recommend using an alternative to IE such as firefox).

    The funny thing was that on the next powerpoint slide she brought up was an example of email spoofing, and the example was showing an email coming from webmaster@mozilla.com.

  22. Maybe it would be easier... by allanc · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...if they just posted news announcing days when vulerabilities aren't found in IE.

    --AC

  23. misunderstood vulnerability by metalpet · · Score: 4, Informative

    This doesn't have much in common with the %00 bug, which was essentially a visual bug, vaguely useful to convince that small percentage of people that verifies the URL of the site they're in instead of going by the look&feel of the page.

    This bug however allows to break cross-domain scripting boundaries.
    A practical example is that an attacker could craft a web page so that when a slashdotter visits it, it automatically submits a silly comment in reply to a particular post (yes, in spite of the hidden formkey field.)
    Worse things could be done, like automatically grabbing the last 10 emails from your hotmail account if you happened to be logged in, send random replies to them, etc...
    Use your imagination.

    Describing this as a way to "completely spoof the address bar" misses the impact of this bug entirely.

    All in all, a pretty cool exploit. I can't help but wonder if the double use of ExecScript and setTimeout is really necessary, but maybe that's an attempt to make it work accross more environments.

  24. Re:Yet another reason... by Tlosk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    lol, that's the one thing that pisses me off more than anything about using a hotmail account, they convert all links into total gobbeldy gook just so they can stick that hotmail header on wherever you head, makes it totally impossible to verify where you're being directed to

  25. And Firefox is vulnerable to other attacks by skoda · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I trying Firefox currently. While it passed the test for this new attack, it vulnerable to at least one other attack described by Secunia: http://secunia.com/multiple_browsers_window_inject ion_vulnerability_test/

    Anyone know the score? What is Firefox vulnerable to and when will it updated?

  26. MSIE's clock. by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 5, Funny
    Let's put one of these chain emails to good use:

    Bill Gates died and went to heaven. As he stood in front of St.Peter at the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him. He asked, "What are all those clocks?"

    St. Peter answered, "Those are Software Vulnerability Clocks. Every computer program on Earth has a Software Vulnerability Clock. Every time a program is compromised due to a bug in the code, the hands on that program's clock will move.

    "Oh," said Bill, "which clock is that?"

    "That's the UNICOS clock. The hands have never moved, indicating that it was never compromised by an attacker."

    "Incredible," said Bill. "And which clock is that one?"

    St. Peter responded, "That's the OpenBSD clock. The hands have moved twice, telling us that the "Only one remote hole in the default install, in more than 8 years!" was compromised only two times in this operating system's life."

    "Where's Internet Explorer's clock?" asked Bill.

    "That's in Jesus' office. He's using it to drive the generators, which provide power for our celestial copy of Las Vegas."

  27. NEVER mention competitor?? by ShimmyShimmy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Never mention your competitor? I don't think competitor is quite the word here. IE vs. Firefox is not really a competition either. The reason Coke sells better than Pepsi is because people have tried both, and they think "I like Coke better." The reason 90% or so (the vast majority) of poeple use Internet Explorer isn't because they think "I tried both and weighing the featurs of each, I choose IE."

    It's much more of a matter of people (A) not hearing about Firefox, and (B) not using it because they don't know how.
    Both can easily be solved with a 5-minute download and 30 seconds of explaining "popup blocker" and "safe browsing".

    Back to 'never mention your competitor in advertising' is usually a bad idea because:

    1) It recognizes the competition, implies that they are viable competitors, and creates awareness of them.
    2) It credits/merits the competition, almost suggests there's a reason to choose their product.

    I really don't feel that either of the two apply here.

    A) IE is very recognized. I don't think there is anyone that uses the internet that doesn't know what it is.
    B) Nobody 'chooses' IE. It is spoon-fed to everyone and most people either don't know better or don't care.

    C) "Implies your product won't/can't stand up on its own merits" --Well, in a way it can't. The biggest problem with other browsers is lack of awareness. If you don't represent Firefox as 'an alternative to IE' you will not be likely to influence anyone but attuned computer users.

    D) As for "= you have LOST" -- Either that, or 'are losing' or 'are behind'. EVERY PC and Mac comes standard with IE, and EVERY PC has it currently installed. The vast majority of people who use the internet use IE. Firefox has a long way to go.

    All in all, Firefox is the best browser available. If you don't believe me, then you probably don't have The AdBlock Extention installed. For now, yell as loud as you can, "INTERNET EXPLORER SUCKS, USE FIREFOX". Seems to work pretty well for me.

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