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Revolutionary Tower in Brazil

An anonymous reader writes "Have you ever thought about retiring in Brazil? If you have thought about doing so, this might be just the piece of real estate you were looking for. 'An unusual apartment building was inaugurated in Brazil, each of whose 11 storeys turns independently, giving lucky residents 360-degree views of the eco-friendly city of Curitiba.' Now, if they could only tilt it a little bit to look like Pisa's Tower..."

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  1. Counter rotating bed... by superlime · · Score: 2, Funny

    All you need is a counter rotating bed, and it'd be the perfect bachelor pad!

    -superlime

    1. Re:Counter rotating bed... by HappyClown · · Score: 2, Funny

      Brings whole new meaning to the expression "Did you get out of the wrong side of bed this morning?"

    2. Re:Counter rotating bed... by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 3, Funny

      That actually sounds like a good idea. Maybe they could have a whole section of the living space that stays fixed while the outer ring rotates.

      My first thought was they should make three identical buildings and fabricate a giant robot hand to solve the Towers of Hanoi problem.

      They should also put some things in there like prisms or compasses to make all of the rotation a lot more interesting.

  2. Dead or Alive by Code-Ex · · Score: 5, Funny

    You spin me right round, baby
    Right round like a record, baby
    Right round round round
    You spin me right round, baby
    Right round like a record, baby
    Right round round round

  3. The revolution... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    will be remote-controlled

    1. Re:The revolution... by Nasheer · · Score: 2, Funny
      " So what happens when your girlfriend starts screaming "Faster!"?"
      You vomit over her?
      Plain and simple.
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  4. Think about the electric bill by amjith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just imagine the electricity bill these guys have to pay every month. Assuming that the rotation is done by means of some electric motor. The electric motor itself is an amazing thing to begin with.

    1. Re:Think about the electric bill by PabloJones · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My guess is that they have the electric motors on the outer edge of the place, not on the inside. It could come with two motors per floor at opposing points of the circle. Since the place probably doesn't rotate extremely fast, even at the highest setting, then the motors wouldn't need to drain a ton of power.

      This seems more or less to be a gimmick. I bet the people living there will only use their novelty spinning condos for a month or so, and then get sick of it and show it to people when they come to visit and whatnot. If you have an entire floor of a circular building, then you can walk around and get all the views you'd ever like. I think the nicest thing is the fact you can keep it in one spot for a month, and then when you get sick of the view out your bedroom/kitchen/living room window, you can rotate it 90 degrees and get a whole new view for another month.

      But is that feature really worth the extra price? And how likely is this thing to break down?

    2. Re:Think about the electric bill by teh*fink · · Score: 3, Insightful

      extra price? i realize $300k is a lot in Brazil, but in America for a condo anything like that in any urban area...that's ridiculously cheap.

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    3. Re:Think about the electric bill by ruprechtjones · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Seattle Space Needle uses a one-horsepower motor to rotate its restaraunt once per hour. It can be done easily.

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    4. Re:Think about the electric bill by steve_bryan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you've taken any physics course you should recognize that rotating a floor involves no actual work except the torque needed to start or stop rotation. Once it is rotating at the desired speed you just have to overcome whatever friction that would have been minimized by design.

      I think the more puzzling issue is plumbing. If you look closely at the photos of the control touchscreen and the tower viewed from outside you can see there is a significant fraction of each unit that is in a stationary part that might be 20% of the floor space (bottom left on the screen, not the 'spindle'). You could probably do all the plumbing (kitchen and bathroom) in that fraction.

      Maybe it's a bit over the top but what a nifty way to be able to handle natural lighting issues at various times of the day. Also it would be step up for Austin Powers from a bed that rotates to an entire flat that rotates. Now for the most important question: do they have inexpensive broadband access in Curitiba?

    5. Re:Think about the electric bill by unixbugs · · Score: 2, Funny

      from the article: The owner may also change the direction and speed of the revolutions. At low speed, each floor takes an hour to revolve.

      lets overclock it...

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    6. Re:Think about the electric bill by UranusReallyHertz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well I'm much more interested in the bearings they used.

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    7. Re:Think about the electric bill by Tom · · Score: 3, Insightful

      One word: Sunlight.

      From the pictures it appears there is one section that goes into another building or some kind of solid attachment. That's probably where you'll rotate your bedroom at night. During the day, you may want to rotate whatever room you're in so that it gets the most sunlight.

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    8. Re:Think about the electric bill by DieNadel · · Score: 5, Informative

      The appartments rotate really, really slowly. I happen to live just a 5 minutes car drive of it and I can say that, besides looking a bit funky, it's been there for ages (it took several years for being finished), and it has become sort of a local joke.

      And yes, US$300k is A HUGE LOT OF MONEY here in Brazil. It's almost 900k reais, when our minimum wage is around R$300.

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    9. Re:Think about the electric bill by danila · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Think of it - you can have all windows facing sun if you wish. You start the day with the sun shining light beams on your face, gently waking you up. Then you brush your teeth and take a bath, while the apartment rotates so that your kitchen now faces the sun. You eat your breakfast. Then you go to your study and the sun still shines in your window. You go to another room to exercise and the sun still shines. You get the point. That alone can be worth the extra price - ask any real estate dealer about the price difference between apartments with windows mostly to the south vs. to the north side of the building (in the Northern hemisphere).

      Also, I don't think that this feature is that expensive. 1000$ / square meter is not that high. New apartments in Helsinki, Finland cost 1200-1400 euros (1500-1800 dollars). Apartments in Moscow, Russia cost 2000-3000 dollars. The same in UK and US is probably about 3000-4000. And that is without remotely controlled AC or cool extra features like rotating floors.

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    10. Re:Think about the electric bill by olivaw · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, it's been a nice joke, everyone thought it was not for real. I've lived around there and I remember that it was under construction somewhere around 1992!

      One word: Sunlight.
      Yes, remember that some people, when the word Brazil comes up, think of sunshine. But... Curitiba is a place around 900 meters above sea, with a really bad climate, IMHO.

      Well, see for yourself (don't forget it's almost summer here) Forecast

    11. Re:Think about the electric bill by WhiteDragon · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I think the more puzzling issue is plumbing. If you look closely at the photos of the control touchscreen and the tower viewed from outside you can see there is a significant fraction of each unit that is in a stationary part that might be 20% of the floor space (bottom left on the screen, not the 'spindle'). You could probably do all the plumbing (kitchen and bathroom) in that fraction.
      They actually make swivels that allow rotation of electrical, water, sewage, and even gas lines. Here is a paper talking about it: PDF document about the challenges of creating a rotating house
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    12. Re:Think about the electric bill by UranusReallyHertz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually for that kinda load they tend to use some kind of oil film bearing as they have nearly infinite load capacity. I read about a telesope that used them that weighed many tons you could turn by hand.

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  5. revolutionary indeed... by the_skywise · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's only revolutionary if the space I purchase rotates counter to the other rings.

    1. Re:revolutionary indeed... by RealUlli · · Score: 2, Informative
      It's only revolutionary if the space I purchase rotates counter to the other rings.

      RTFA:

      The owner may also change the direction and speed of the revolutions.
      So, you will be able to rotate counter so at least some of the rings.

      Regards, Ulli

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  6. Thank god! At last! by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was wondering how I was going to screw in that lightbulb...

  7. Don't p*ss of the maintenance people... by Create+an+Account · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...next thing you know, they turn the RPMs up to about 60 and you're stuck to the outside wall.

    1. Re:Don't p*ss of the maintenance people... by pjt33 · · Score: 4, Funny

      What a wasted opportunity for a "first against the wall when the revolution comes" joke.

  8. Great for the folks on the top few floors... by tattoi.nobori · · Score: 5, Funny

    But what about folks on the bottom of the stack? $300k seems a bit steep for a remote-controlled, revolving street-level apartment. ^_^ "hey look honey, it's the gas station again! ...there's the liquor store... yep.. alright! gas station again!"

    1. Re:Great for the folks on the top few floors... by garbletext · · Score: 2, Informative
  9. Re:Disorienting? by blankslate · · Score: 3, Insightful

    except that you could have that one view for every room in the house ...

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  10. Darkology by Facekhan · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just want to live in a Darkology.

  11. Plumbing? by cryogenix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How do they handle the air, water, and electrical I wonder? That has to be a bit of engineering in itself.

    1. Re:Plumbing? by Sparr0 · · Score: 4, Informative

      why? you just make a torus-shaped water pipe near the axis, and cut it in half horizontally. the two halves can rotate independently without ever breaking a seal. then theres pipes going up/out from the top half and down/out from the bottom half. air is easier, less seals. electrical is trivial (*cough*brushes*cough*)

  12. Just imagine by GrueMaster · · Score: 2, Funny

    If the woman in the apartment across the street were to walk around naked, how fast would each level turn & focus on her?

  13. Incredible city by miope · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have been in Curitiba, and I must say that it's a Wonderful, Incredible city.
    Amazing architecture, excelent transportation, lot's of things to do, and see.

    They are heavely influenced by Centro European inmigration, I was surprised finding typical ucranian foods, etc. They also have parks representing the cultural carachteristics of each community (poland park, ucranian park, german park, etc.).

    They really are the "Ecological Capital of Brazil"... they have a saying:

    "If you cut a tree, and the police catch you, you better kill the policeman... you will spend less years in prison".

    The only bad part is that, being a city at 850-1000 meters of altitud, it's not uncommon to have 25 Celsius degrees at midday and 6 degrees at 10 p.m. It's not really cold, but the difference between night and day is excesive.

    Anyway, it's a really nice city, full of nice people!

  14. Re:Disorienting? by MmmDee · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, for once I did RTFA, and having lived previously in San Antonio (Texas) as well as Dallas (Texas), I've had many opportunities to dine at a couple of tower-top revolving restaurants (rotation ~1/hr). While not "exactly dizzying", it can be somewhat disconcerting to see the scenery changing minutely but perceptively. When writing the comment, I was thinking more along the terms of subtle changes over months/years of "exposure" as I'm not aware of any prior prolonged human experience like this being studied/reported... I was just curious. If nothing else, I'm sure lying in bed at night, you'd feel the machinery.

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  15. cheap by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Informative

    $300k is the price to own. That is dirt cheap compared to cities in the US, but I'm sure it's pretty expensive by Brazilian standards.

  16. Re:I am shocked by jericho4.0 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Curitibas web site.

    Note the picture of the transportation system.

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  17. Re:I am shocked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wrong. They are not poor. They are a relatively wealthy country with the worst income distribution of latin america.

    Just to give you an idea, their GDP per capita is around $7600 a year. Wealthier in comparison to China ($5000) and way beyond India ($2600). Compare that to Rwanda ($1300) or Haiti ($1600). The US is around $35.000 a year and France around $27.000.

    My point is that even if you lump all those countries together under the label "third world", there are huge differences between them, bigger differences than between let's say, the US and France.

    On the technology sector, I think that they have the best technology of Latin America. BR has its own Linux distro (Conectiva) and I know that many commercial systems are developed using their own programming languages. They also used to have their own compressed files formats and that sort of thing.

    But software is not their stronger sector. In Civil and electrical engineering they are very good. They've built the biggest electric damn in the world, Itaipu, one of the Seven Wonders of the Modern World (Time/Life selection).
    Check out the website:
    http://www.itaipu.gov.br/

    Brazil is the eight economy of the world (2002). It used to be the first latin american economy after Mexico, only surpassed slightly, but very recently. The Mexican economy however, is much more dependent on foreign investment. i.e. 92% of Mexican banks is in the hands of foreign capitals.

    Great music, beautiful gals, great beaches, what else do you want?

    Just in case you were thinking about it . . . I am not Brazilian . . . and I am not dating a Brazilian.

  18. Nice by Laugurinn · · Score: 3, Funny

    I had a vision. A 6 storey rubic's cube with horizontal 360 scrolling.

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  19. So would this mean ... by stwrtpj · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... that if a bunch of Marxists decided to hold one of their meetings in this place, they would be plotting Communist revolutions? (Ba-DUM)

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  20. Re:11 stories not good for retirement by tarp · · Score: 2, Funny

    You think they'd build a revolving building like this and NOT have an elevator?

  21. But that's using 1950's technology by i41Overlord · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Seattle Space Needle uses a one-horsepower motor to rotate its restaraunt once per hour. It can be done easily.

    I'm sure with modern technology, we could design a much more powerful motor that would spin the restaurant at 15,000 rpm.

    1. Re:But that's using 1950's technology by AndrewStephens · · Score: 5, Funny
      The Seattle Space Needle uses a one-horsepower motor to rotate its restaraunt once per hour. It can be done easily.
      I'm sure with modern technology, we could design a much more powerful motor that would spin the restaurant at 15,000 rpm.

      Thats how they clean it. Every night the last person out fulls the restaraunt with warm-soapy water and then pushes the spin-cycle button. 45 minutes later the whole place is clean, fresh, and ready for the next day.

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  22. Re:This isn't really all that practical though... by imthesponge · · Score: 2, Informative

    Who says everything has to be in the center? With proper wiring and piping, the bathroom and kitchen could be in relatively the same place all the time.

    There could be a central room that everything opens into, and where the border between the apartment and hub is. There could also be radial walls, as long as they didn't go all the way to the center (this gruesome accident comes to mind).

  23. a revolving house....in 1968 by westlake · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No pictures, unfortunately, but a good description of the late American architect Richard Foster's rotating house can be found here: Their life revolved around home It is a stunner to be found in once-rural Connecticut, glass walled on a long-stemmed base. (Foster was a partner of Philip Johnson) For the most part, he relied on off-the-shelf, low-maintenance, industrial solutions for electricity, plumbing, etc. The house, 500,000 pounds, the motor, 1 1/4 horsepower.

  24. fixed asset by kcelery · · Score: 2, Funny

    It redefines the meaning of fixed asset.

  25. Can't wait! by The+Real+Nem · · Score: 2, Funny

    In a similar trend to Alek's Christmas Lights webcam, anonymous internet users will be able to adjust the direction and velocity of each floor with a click of a button.

    In other news, researchers intrigued my innovative new earthquake simulation technologies, begun flocking to Curitiba in force.

  26. Re:Exactly! by DieNadel · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ecoville is the name of the residential area. Buildings there are supposed to be wider apart from each other and have gardens in between.

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  27. Re:Plumbing? RTFA! by mildness · · Score: 2, Informative
    Or at least look at the picures. A quick scan shows that the core does not spin solving plumbing and air issues.

    Bill

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  28. But, it's funny. by eMartin · · Score: 2, Funny

    "More intelligent Mods, combatting this silly policy, sometimes mod funny posts Informative etc. so humorous posters are rewarded with Karma."

    If the guy was posting for karma, he would have posted something informative.