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Homebrewed Robot Exoskeleton In Alaska
museumpeace writes "CNET has an article about a robotic exoskeleton ginned up by tinkerer from Alaska There are a few cool pictures. The audacity of Mr. Owens project, if you believe the article, compares to the efforts of the old
Home Brew Computer Club when compared to the work of GE or
Toyota. Inspiration here comes more from sci-fi and video games than from industrial competition. The article is a good roundup of MECHA related developments, some of which sprang from DARPA money, so I am glad at least a few of my tax dollars are having some real geek fun."
I thought they found an ancient robot skeleton buried under the ice or something, it's been a long week.
Well I for one, welcome our new Alaskan Mecha overlords.
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Y'know, it occurs to me that this is someone you don't want to piss off with a slashdotting. He's developing the perfect retaliation suit!
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But, I have a feeling the first step is going to put this flat on it's face.
Anime-ish designs for Mecha (mobile suits) don't translate well into the real world.
If it were me, I would be looking to emulate some of the designs from the original MechWarrior series. They seem a bit more realistic.
Still, love to see this walk/work!
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Now THAT would be cool.
it gets lonely in Alaska. :-)
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I hereby demand a battle royale to the death between the homebrewed robot exoskelton and this guy.
Cute addition there with the head crests a la "Patlabor." And yet I'm still rather disappointed. Where is the 14' energy sword? Jet boosters? Particle beam rifle? Facetious, yes, but it is strange that amid these dizzying technological advancements, humanity's achievements in the field of robotics, circa 2004, are analagous to the state of automotive technology circa 1904. Nevertheless, that is some pretty damn fine backyard engineering.
"OH SHIT, THERE'S A HORSE IN THE HOSPITAL!"
Oh great, put the robots in the place where we can't live. They'll multiply... then they'll develope new, improved A.I. They will take over the economy with their new hoverdrive technology... We won't know if it is us or them who'll attack first-- I just know we're gonna have to scortch the sky because of this.
Electrons are free; it is moving them that becomes expensive.
The control problems are not trivial, and I doubt that this guy will be able to solve them. But a lot of these problems have already been solved by Sarcos. In particular, look at this page, especially at the "Sensuit" and the "Large Arm."
The Large Arm is especially impressive, holding a freakin anvil like it was a stein of beer!
If you could build the whole body of the Sensuit to a large enough scale that the whole pilot can be encased in a haptic feedback harness, you'd have a viable mecha.
The reason no one has ever actively pursued mecha is because they would be so inefficient. Tanks and such are built with a low profile, and if you ask frontline soldiers, they are only useful in limited roles. My army friend much prefers the new strykers because of their flexibility and reliability.
A mecha would be standing 20 feet in the battlefied, an open and tempting target to everything from bombers to tanks to helicopters and to RPGs. It would have limited mobility, be extremely difficult to keep in working condition, and will have less load capacity than its tracked or wheeled counterparts. In short, it would look cool, but would be a useless coffin.
In BattleTech, they make up for the obvious disadvantages of a mecha by giving them advantages over vehicles. Mecha are more reliable, more maneuvarable, able to take more damage and continue to function, and can carry more weapons. Even then, if you pit a balanced vehicle force against a balanced mecha force, ton for ton, credit for credit, the vehicles can easily overpower the mecha in most circumstances.
I don't want to discourage this backyard project. After all, how many inventions were made when there was no necessity, but a necessity was found at a later time? But I do want folks to exercise a bit of common sense. If mecha were such a great idea, we'd have used them in WWII. We certainly had the technology to build them back then.
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To build an operational mecha as a hobby is one thing.
To build it outside in the friggin Alaskan winter... well, there's only one word for that:
OTAKU!!!
(which, by the way, is what is on my housemate's vanity plate, so I speak with first-hand knowlege)
Someone had to do it.
Ah, the irony there would be...
that that is is that that is not is not
The things men do when there are not enough women around. I guess it keeps his hands from going crazy on those long alaskan nights.
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Wow someone used the word "control". After working on a VERY, VERY... VERY simple servo motor control project I have to agree with the skepticism. Who knows though I am stupid, other people aren't. I also haven't dedicated any "real" portion of my life to control systems. Also someone else brought up the impracticality, which seems to be a logical arguement to me. But again I don't really know that much. Overall it is pretty cool for what it's worth!
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Forget this guy in the post. He clearly doesn't have a clue. But the problems have been largely solved in the past several decades with DARPA money.
If you put a full body haptic interface around someone strapped into a huge robotic body, you'd have it. (See the Immersion Corp link.) But the thing would have to be freaking huge. A full-body haptic cockpit would be something like a sphere 8' in diameter, implying a mecha 30 foot tall!
Perhaps have the cockpit controlling separate and much smaller mecha body remotely, and just have the haptic controls on one of those motion simulation platforms.
Sure, it wouldn't be as "sexy" as the X-Prize, but wouldn't some privately sponsored prize money do wonders for this longtime human dream? Call it, say, the Mecha Prize, and offer a few million bucks to whoever builds the first mecha that can go a half mile, pick up a Dodge Neon and move it in the air for 50 feet, then return to the starting line. Or something similar.
I have no doubt that someone as creative as Rutan is out there, and with a little incentive and the promise of some real financial gain could use modern actuators and pressure pads and gyro sensors and so forth to finally create a useful mecha.
I also have no doubt that (unlike Spaceship One) a mecha that could complete the above test would immediately be of great value in quite a few industrial and/or emergency applications.
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Mechas make perfect forklifts and industrial machines. There's some use for combat mechas in exotic terrain... mountains, underwater, etc
:)
They'd make excellent car crushers, too
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From the article:
Anyone remember or know what I'm talking about? I can't seem to find anything about it.
Am I the only one who sees an 18 or 35 foot tall mech being build surrounded by scaffolding and thinks that the whole project would have been 75% easier if he judt built it lying down?
A crane could easily stand it up later, but if it is going to work at all, it would need to be able to stand after a stumble anyway.
Sure, it looks cooler standing, and probably annoys his neighbours more, but it seems like a very poor design decision.
This is way cool and it'd be awesome to see it work, but I'm officially a doubter.
Korea is not the country with the mecha-craze. It is Japan. The building of a giant robot is not new. Many years ago, this giant robot was already being developed in Japan. Although there is no actual functionality with this Gundam, but I doubt that NMX04-1A can be made to be autonomous any time soon.
On this page there are photos of exosuits which were at Robonexus in October in a mecha lifting contest.
Mechanicus is another home-made exoskeleton from Austin, TX.
If /. was imitating FARK, the article would have been described as "Man designs mecha; will crush cars, find Sarah Connor."
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Actually, the Sarcos Large Arm uses hydraulics. In fact, only hydraulics are powerful and responsive enough for machinery like this.
Real science is better than demolition derby science any day. Instead of a couple of humanoid megasaurs lumbering around, imagine two giant robots nimble enough to do Kung-Fu! (Duking it out with giant clubs!)
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The problem with backhoes is thery are:
1) Worked so hard and long (due to fiancial pressures) that their joins develop slop
2) The hydraulic valves only have a limited amount of proportional control
With a well maintained machine and good proportinal control valves, hydraulic force can be applied very smoothly and controllably. The power/size radio is incredible and is really required for something like this.