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U.S. World's Foremost Spam Nation In 2004

der Kopf writes "As reported by ZDNet, '42 percent of all spam sent this year came from the United States,' which makes the U.S. the unthreatened king of the 2004 spam hill. Number two on the list is South Korea (with 13.43%), while China can be found in third place (with 8.44%). The U.S. put out more spam this year than all the other countries in the top 12 combined." All depends who's counting, I guess.

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  1. Headlines we'll see in 2005, 2006, .. by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That one just isn't going to change. Never has, never will.

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  2. Who's counting? by cperciva · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All depends who's counting, I guess.

    This study comes from the UK; given recent electoral history, I'm far more inclined to trust that they can count than I am to trust any study which comes out of the US.

    1. Re:Who's counting? by 1u3hr · · Score: 5, Insightful
      All depends who's counting, I guess.

      What the fuck was that editorialil comment supposed to mean anyway?

      Every time spam comes up as a topic here we get dozens of xenophobic rednecks proudly explaining that since they've "blocked all APNIC" they "don't get any spam, and who cares about communicating with them anyway". Even in the face of data like this, I'm sure they'll continue to lecture the rest of the world on how thay have to shut down "their" spammers or be cut off.

      Personally, living in Hong Kong, about 1% of my spam is local, 2-5% Nigerian, the rest American.

  3. Interesting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I wonder if we will begin hearing tales of admins blocking US based IPs as we have heard of them blocking Chinese IPs outright.

  4. Good news in disguise? by Magus424 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If most of the spam comes from the US, that means that any anti-spam legislation passed here could have a huge effect.

    Of course, now we have to wait for Congress to actually do something about it. ;-)

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  5. Re:Woohoo! by bsharitt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This would be a good thing if it's accurate, that would mean that close to half of all spam would be under US jurisdiction, which means they can be sued and shut down in the US.

  6. Ahh the Irony of Slashdot by Khuffie · · Score: 5, Insightful
    When an article came out sometime last month about how a lot of spam is coming from China, people here were complaining about the damned Chinese, how they should just block the whole country and be done with it, that they do nothing at all and that China just blame sucks.

    Now an article with research backing it shows the US as the major culprit, and what does everyone do? Make excuses or jokes. What makes you think the Chinese don't have zombie machines? Or is it ok for the US to spam, but no one else?

    And the fact of the matter is, aside from a few random Russian/Chinese emails (1 in 100), most of the spam I receive is offering goods and services in English, directed at the North American market. 'Where' the spam comes from doesn't really matter, what the spam is selling and where that thing is should.

  7. Targets, too by Tom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It isn't just the source of spam - 95% or so of the spam is very obviously targetted at americans, too.

    Ok, porn sites are international, but mortgage refinancing and what else the other crap is seems totally US-centric to me.

    I'm sure 95% of the idiots who buy from spammers can be found in the US, too.

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  8. Not surprising. by Renaud · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All depends who's counting, I guess.

    Yeah, right...
    If I were counting, that would be more like 99% than 42%, sadly.

    More precisely, I'd say that 42% of the spam being relayed from computers in the US sounds about right. But when it comes to the target audience, or the companies/individuals behind the spamvertised goods/services/scams, it suddenly looks like a 99% american problem in my (and most people's) view.

    I had already commented on this

    Sad, but certainly not Slashdot headline-worthy.

  9. Re:Wrong: China is Still # by bananasfalklands · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From my observations I find that Americans hire the Koreans and Chinese and send there junk from there ip space.

    Korean/'insert country name here' send spam - yes ... but funded by an american(s)

    Now in the case of Robert Solaway (as seen on spamhaus) I find he uses borked windoze boxes worldwide to send his junk (he also hosts in China - well thats what the dns reports)

    Murky stuff this.

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  10. Re:And it's mostly coming from fucking idiots... by MeanSolutions · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What gets me is that the spammers bother to send the spam outside Jesusland. The uptake on 'Low Cost Mortgages from USA' in Europe has to be 0.00%.

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  11. Listen, asshole... by PontifexPrimus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just because you're a mentally challenged, nazi-voting, mouth-breathing American doesn't give you the right to condescend to other countries. Apart from that, most of the spam I get advertises American websites, American fake Rolex watches and American drugs - in fact, I can use that as a pretty good spamfilter, since I'm a German living in Germany; I need only check for American English as the language and can dump it in my spam folder.

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  12. Re:Woohoo! by canuck57 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This would be a good thing if it's accurate, that would mean that close to half of all spam would be under US jurisdiction, which means they can be sued and shut down in the US./p?

    It is true. Americans generate the problem to sell products to solve the problem.

    The legal system in the US is not interested in enforcing SEC regulations, fraud laws or business licensing issues with regards to spam. You can't put 80% of the business in court for being spammers. The company you work for might be a spammer - they just quietly outsource it.

  13. Re:Woohoo! by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Given how unpopular spam is, this only really goes to provide evidence towards my contention- that the US political system is institutionally corrupt.

    i.e. the backhanders that senators and wotnot get from 'advertising' businesses mean that the laws have little or no teeth.

    I mean, in the US, it's pretty much legal to say just about anything in an advertisements. In the UK, you have to be actually not misleading.

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