saw these pics this morning...the general greivous pictures look awesome...what's up with the "x-wing" type fighters though? they appear to have an extra wing in the middle...
the wookie going for nookie picture at the top of the page cracked me up...
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"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." - Homer Simpson
I dunno about these pics. In this one, it looks like Hayden and his bestest buddy just completed a succesful assault on a cheap costume shop in order to get ready for Thursday's bitchin' Halloween kegger down at the Tri-Lams.
-- When you have nothing left to burn you must set yourself on fire
As I recall, from one of the extras on the DVD, Lee has been a life-long fan of LOTR. In fact he claimed that he has read it once a year for many years now. I suppose if I was a huge fan of a book, and was an actor with some influence, I'd try to get in on the movie project for the book.
I've got a better title for Episode III:
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JoeLinux
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"Episode III: The last chance for Lucas".
Seriously...is anyone going into this thing with high hopes? Episode I was like watching my childhood melt into easily-marketable claptrap, and Episode II felt like the actors had full-body botox.
Who is going to see this expecting a wonderful, rounded, well-acted movie? Don't get me wrong, I intend to see it, but mostly because of morbid curiosity.
I dunno...I guess I'm still bitter about LucasArts cancelling Sam and Max for more Star Wars Title. Damn them!
Re:I've got a better title for Episode III:
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E+IS+mC(Square)
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It took Lucas 2-3 decades to achieve what Wachowski brothers achieved in 2-3 years - undoing of great movie-making for money!!
Re:I've got a better title for Episode III:
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NormalVisual
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Don't know about the movie, but I'm sure I will find Natalie Portman to be wonderful and rounded in Ep. III.
-- Please stand clear of the doors, por favor mantenganse alejado de las puertas
Re:I've got a better title for Episode III:
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sdo1
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· Score: 5, Insightful
Episode I was like watching my childhood melt into easily-marketable claptrap
You know, I've felt the same way about Episode I. I hated it.
But then this past week I had a revelation. In the years since it was relesed, I had a kid. He's about four and a half years old now. We've watched the first (original) three together (including pausing at the Guido scene to explain that Han shot first), and he's loved them.
Then we watched Episide I last week. And while I was sitting there squirming and re-living the pain, he was REALLY loving it. Jar Jar... "He's funny!". He cracked up at the pod race announcers. Anikin accidentally destroying the space station was met with "That was AWESOME!".
Episide I was not for me. It was designed to satisfy the intellect of a four year old. Well, "designed to" may be to strong, but that's where it succeeded, whether that was the intention or not. Everying I loathed about it, he loved. It's sad that Lucas smashed my dreams of a satisfying first chapter, but my four year old thinks differently.
-S
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What parts of "shall make no law", "shall not be infringed", and "shall not be violated" don't you understand?
Re:I've got a better title for Episode III:
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LMariachi
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· Score: 5, Interesting
Your assumption that you can appeal to four-year olds or adults but not both is a false dichotomy. From an interview with Pixar's Craig Good:
NRO: The father of five, I'm something of an expert on animated feature films, if I do say so myself -- and Pixar productions are simply and incomparably the best. Your stuff delights my three-year old, my thirteen-year-old, the three kids in between, and their parents and grandparents. How do you guys do it?
Good: Simple. We don't make movies for kids. We make movies for adults, actually ourselves, and then just make sure there's nothing in them that the little ones shouldn't see. The local cineplex is littered with movies made by studios who want to second-guess what the audience wants. We find we get better results by making what we want, and then assuming that there are other people like us out there.
If audiences in general are underestimated, kids really get the patronizing treatment. Two things are often forgotten about kids. One: They have no taste. They will watch just about anything. This is normal and healthy. Taste comes later. Two: They are not stupid! Kids are born intelligent, and there's no good reason to make dumbed-down entertainment for them.
Aint it incorrect..
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Turn-X+Alphonse
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· Score: 5, Insightful
Personally after the HHGG (Zaphod's second head is up his nose) and Zeta Gundam (A real Gundam is being made for a movie! Here's some pictures which are infact a 1/2 scale Gundam model been around for 10 years!), incidents. I think I'll hold off on any "leaked" or "hot new news" untill it's been comfirmed by a source I trust.
-- I like muppets.
lowered expectations
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t1nman33
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· Score: 4, Insightful
Saw these pics this morning...they look good.
Which pretty much sums up my expectations: it looks neat from the previews, and probably will disappoint me in the end. I was in line at Blockbuster with my girlfriend the other night, looking at recent releases, and noting how many of them had excellent trailers, and how many of them actually turned out to be worth watching. Almost anything looks good when your interaction with it consists of a trailer, some stills, a few out-of-context quotes and maybe a rough plot.
I'll get my ticket, I'll see the movie, I'll be disappointed, and, you know, whatever. And so will you.
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Where's my car, and why are these grass stains on my pants?
Re:lowered expectations
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dema
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· Score: 4, Insightful
I'll get my ticket, I'll see the movie, I'll be disappointed, and, you know, whatever. And so will you.
I sure won't. I got my ticket, saw Episode I, was dissapointed, didn't buy the DVD, and haven't seen Episode II. If you don't want people like Lucas to pull crap like this, why do you pay to see movies you know won't live up to your expectations?
Re:lowered expectations
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Ralph+Wiggam
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· Score: 4, Interesting
Episode 2 is worth renting to see Yoda get busy with a lightsaber.
Is anyone else really disturbed by the fact that there is nobody to root for in the prequel films? The "good guys" like Yoda and Obi Wan are fighting along side stormtrooper 1.0s for the people who will later become the Empire . The whole idea of prequels is just stupid because we know exactly what the situation is going to be at the end. The minute I saw Samuel Jackson on screen I knew that he was going to get waxed sooner or later.
George Lucas has one chance to turn the ship around. He can turn over all writing and directing duties to other people and let them run with Episodes 7-9.
Just rambling.
-B
Re:lowered expectations
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digitalgiblet
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· Score: 4, Funny
Wow, you never saw Ep 2??
Dude, that was the one where it all starts to make sense!
You mean you never saw the epic battle between Anakin and Darth Jar Jar? One of the best sequences in ANY film EVER!
"Meesa gonna cut yousa, Annie! Meesa gonna cut yousa real good! Yousa not gonna see dat sun come out tomorrow! Yousa gonna feel the power of the dark side!"
Man that was cool. Then Darth Jar Jar KILLED Anakin and assumed his identity. Wicked. THAT's why Darth Vader wears that damned mask that filters his voice! Ep 5 would have sounded pretty weird if Vader had said, "Luke, meesa you fadder!" Ep 4 would have sucked if he had said "Meesa find yousa's lack of faith distoobin!"
What the new movies are lacking...
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Lorean
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· Score: 4, Interesting
Anyone notice how the first three movies all had a good chunk of time allocate to space/ship battles? While the new movies have practically none? I hope those X-wing looking thngs are indicative of things to come. Though, I am disapointed at not seeing any Z-95s.
Slashdotted! Why are you guys clicking on the link
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Xpilot
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· Score: 5, Interesting
Seriously, Slashdot keeps trashing the prequels, saying you'll never see them coz they suck, yada yada yada... and yet that site got slashdotted quicker than lightspeed. Why do you even care? Do you genuinely dislike them, or s it just some kind of slashdot groupthink conformity that makes you bash something you don't have to see if you don't want to?
Now, I'm not defending George Lucas (I didn't think the prequels were great... nor did the acting make me want to care about any of the characters). But still, it wasn't horrible. I could still enjoy watching the story unfold into what we know happens in Episodes 4-6. It is backstory, but I admit I had fun discovering what happens to the galaxy as a whole before the empire. It's fun to know about the Jedi order in its heyday, talked about in the original trilogy.
But hey, this is Slashdot. Continue your bashing.
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Re:Slashdotted! Why are you guys clicking on the l
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AceCaseOR
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· Score: 4, Funny
The original Star Wars movies are damn good movies, but I think alot of people here forget that when they were first released, they were children or teenagers.
I've said this before and got modded down for it, but screw it. The new Star Wars films aren't really geared towards children any less than the originals were. Sure, Jar Jar is a stupid and annoying character to watch, but C3P0 was also an irritating bastard in the first films, providing childish humour and no-brainer script to the movies.
As for everyone claiming they know they will be dissapointed by this movie, you will only be dissapointed if you go in thinking the movie is going to be a great film. If you know that it won't, they you won't be dissapointed.
Take the movies at face value. They are all certified for younger audiences, even the originals, therefore its pretty safe to assume alot of the content will not only be suitable for younger viewers, but also more enjoyable for them.
Yeah yeah..... mod me down as troll or flamebait just like every time I don't just spit out "Lucas is evil and has destroyed my life" on Star Wars related discussions:P
-- She's built like a steak house, but she handles like a bistro....
Re:I'm confused about these pics
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dafz1
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According to the Star Wars: EU, Palpatine had the power/ability to "transfer his consciousness" into a clone, basically to be able to live forever.
My guess is the younger looking Palpatine is a clone that either is directly controlled by Darth Sidious/Emporer P. or a clone that was educated by the elder Palpatine as a "people friendly" version. It would also be the target of the next consciousness transfer.
unhand me, you fiend.
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sammy+baby
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Let's look at a selected history of lightsaber injuries here. First, Dooku removes one of Anakin Skywalker's hands. Then, if these pics are accurate, Anakin returns the favor by removing both of Dooku's. In Episode V, Anakin (as Vader) removes one of Luke's hands. And finally, Luke returns that favor by removing Vader's prosthetic hand.
You'd think that at this point, some Jedi genius would have come up with at least a hand guard for those goddamn things.
On a different note, I propose a caption contest for the picture of Yoda, prone on the floor with his cane several feet away. My entry is, "When nine-hundred years you reach, as many push-ups you will not be able to do."
Re:unhand me, you fiend.
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BiggerBoat
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· Score: 4, Funny
"Frank Oz's hand up my ass, I need."
Warning: here (may) be spoilers.
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Yaztromo
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· Score: 4, Insightful
Okay -- I don't have any special inside information or anything, but I have been watching the commentary on the new Star Wars DVDs this past week, and after looking at these pictures have some thoughts to share.
Many of these pictures look to be of the type that are taken for marketing purposes, and at least one of them looks to be unfinished. Take a look at the pictures of General Grevious (sp? -- the robot with the lightsabres). All computer generated of course, with what you'd expect a lightsabre to look like. Now take a look at the shot of Darth Sideous/Anakin, in particular their sabres. Note they are just coloured poles -- no "glow". It would appear that these photos haven't gone through post processing yet, as I can't imagine Lucasfilm's marketing department releasing them that way.
This is important, as it's a vector upon which Lucasfilm will probably focus to try to track the source of the leak. Expect someone to get sacked. Some of the photos are obviously unfinished, and it won't be hard to get a list of people who have access to the originals.
Now I'm going to hypothesize about a few things here which, if correct, may turn out to be spoilers. Or they might be worth less than the electrons used to transmit this message. You've been warned. If you don't want to risk potentially reading about something that happens in the film, stop reading here.
With that out of the way, the other photos I find interesting are the ones of the Emperor in the background with Anakin and Darth Tyrannus in a lightsabre duel. It appears to be shades of Eps 6 (Return of the Jedi), with Luke facing off against Vader. In this case, however, I'm presuming that Anakin wins (looking at one photo, apparently by cutting off both Tyrannus' hands, again much like Eps. 6). Thus, it appears to be somewhat of a redux of Return of the Jedi, but with the difference that where Luke wouldn't turn towards the dark side, Anakin (obviously) did.
Which brings up a few interesting questions. Apparently Lucas is going with the whole concept that there can never be any more than two Sith at any given time -- a student and a master. And that as the student gets older, Sideous/Palpatine gets an up-and-coming Jedi to kill them off for him, becoming the new "student" in the process. This could put the whole duel in ROTJ in a new light.
It also adds some new evidence to something I've long wondered about in the prequels, having to do with Anakin being the one prophisized to "bring balance to the Force". Qui-gon, Yoda, and the other Jedi appear to have made the assumption that this can only be a positive thing. However, look at those who are the masters of the Force. There are at least a dozen (or more) Jedi, but only ever two Sith at any given time. If the Force is out of balance, it would appear to be in favour of the "light" side, in which case the imbalance is a good thing. To bring balance to the Force could entail equalizing those who are its masters. If Anakin kills Tyrannus, that leaves two Sith. And from the original trilogy, we know after Eps 3 there are only two Jedi left (Obi-wan and Yoda). Perfectly balanced.
It's good to see Kit Fisto makes another showing, at least:).
That doesn't even make any sense. The ratings do not indicate the quality of the movies. Jar Jar was abominable, the reliance on CGI (which is not as natural, even, than stop-motion) was a mistake, and the story was not as complex (by the time you get to Ep. IV, there's already three episodes of back story. But at Ep. I, there really isn't much at all).
The movie wasn't targeted at kids (no more so than anyone else), but it was *about* a kid, and *that* was the biggest problem Lucas faced with Ep. I. It's *really* hard to make a movie about a kid that isn't childish. If he acted just like a little boy, it would have been boring, so they had to make him a pod-racing, star fighter-flying top gun war hero, which was *really* asking a lot of the audience. I would have made the film primarily about the Jedi, the Sith, and the Republic, with the rise of Anakin as a minor role, but Lucas wanted it to be primarily about Anakin. Oops.
Had Ep. II been released as Ep. I, things would have been a lot better.
Re:I'm confused about these pics
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SamSeaborn
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· Score: 4, Interesting
I'm a big Star Wars fan... not a nut, but a fan.
Me too.
The Attack Of The Clones was pretty good.
CLONES fails on nearly every cinematic level except production.
The actors deliver their lines like it's their first run through the script. The only one with any life in him is Lee. The body language is non-existant like a high-school play (remember Han Solo running around in Empire, ducking, weaving, waving his finger, barking his lines -- NO actor in CLONES delivers this kind of energy).
The pacing of the picture is frigid -- it is such a colossal bore, plodding from one fx sequence to another. The pauses and gaps between every line of dialoge are exhausting. What ever happened to Lucas' famous direction "faster and more intense"?
Beloved characters like Yoda are characitures of their former selves ("really says EVERYTHING backwards, Yoda does?"), the beloved wise, mysterious wizard from EMPIRE was once awe-inspiring but is now laughable. (Go back and watch the scene from EMPIRE where he's telling Luke about the force and raises the X-WING from the swamp -- it's compelling and inspiring, there's *nothing* in the prequels that comes close to that scene.)
The "lead" actors Christianson and Portman... <sigh>... there's better acting on SAVED BY THE BELL. And their romance is painfully trite. In their defense, they had nothing to work with as their script was pathetic; the most hackneyed writing in recent memory.
The entire plot is an uninspired first draft of a second rate saturday morning cartoon. Each and every sub-plot is completely contrived; Boba Fett and son, Threepio's partnering with R2, the intro of Uncle Ben and Aunt Beru, Shme Skywalkers death. This is all bad, bad, amateur stuff.
I can't wait for the scene in Episode 3 when Anakin says "I want my son to have my light-sabre when he's old enough." Owen replies, "I WON'T ALLOW THAT!". Kenobi whispers to Anakin, "Give it to me, I'll care it" and winks.
Give me strength, honestly.
Factoring in budget, talent, and expectations, CLONE is literally one of the worst movies ever made.
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saw these pics this morning...the general greivous pictures look awesome...what's up with the "x-wing" type fighters though? they appear to have an extra wing in the middle...
the wookie going for nookie picture at the top of the page cracked me up...
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." - Homer Simpson
Dude, what is Saruman doing there? I knew he didn't really die. You have to watch those slippery ones all the damn time.
"Episode III: The last chance for Lucas".
Seriously...is anyone going into this thing with high hopes? Episode I was like watching my childhood melt into easily-marketable claptrap, and Episode II felt like the actors had full-body botox.
Who is going to see this expecting a wonderful, rounded, well-acted movie? Don't get me wrong, I intend to see it, but mostly because of morbid curiosity.
I dunno...I guess I'm still bitter about LucasArts cancelling Sam and Max for more Star Wars Title. Damn them!
Personally after the HHGG (Zaphod's second head is up his nose) and Zeta Gundam (A real Gundam is being made for a movie! Here's some pictures which are infact a 1/2 scale Gundam model been around for 10 years!), incidents. I think I'll hold off on any "leaked" or "hot new news" untill it's been comfirmed by a source I trust.
I like muppets.
Saw these pics this morning...they look good.
Which pretty much sums up my expectations: it looks neat from the previews, and probably will disappoint me in the end. I was in line at Blockbuster with my girlfriend the other night, looking at recent releases, and noting how many of them had excellent trailers, and how many of them actually turned out to be worth watching. Almost anything looks good when your interaction with it consists of a trailer, some stills, a few out-of-context quotes and maybe a rough plot.
I'll get my ticket, I'll see the movie, I'll be disappointed, and, you know, whatever. And so will you.
--- Where's my car, and why are these grass stains on my pants?
Anyone notice how the first three movies all had a good chunk of time allocate to space/ship battles? While the new movies have practically none? I hope those X-wing looking thngs are indicative of things to come. Though, I am disapointed at not seeing any Z-95s.
Seriously, Slashdot keeps trashing the prequels, saying you'll never see them coz they suck, yada yada yada... and yet that site got slashdotted quicker than lightspeed. Why do you even care? Do you genuinely dislike them, or s it just some kind of slashdot groupthink conformity that makes you bash something you don't have to see if you don't want to?
Now, I'm not defending George Lucas (I didn't think the prequels were great... nor did the acting make me want to care about any of the characters). But still, it wasn't horrible. I could still enjoy watching the story unfold into what we know happens in Episodes 4-6. It is backstory, but I admit I had fun discovering what happens to the galaxy as a whole before the empire. It's fun to know about the Jedi order in its heyday, talked about in the original trilogy.
But hey, this is Slashdot. Continue your bashing.
"Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it." -- Linus Torvalds
I have to agree. There are worse movies than the prequels.
Zagreus sits inside your head, Zagreus lives among the dead, Zagreus sees you in your bed and eats you in your sleep.
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I've said this before and got modded down for it, but screw it. The new Star Wars films aren't really geared towards children any less than the originals were. Sure, Jar Jar is a stupid and annoying character to watch, but C3P0 was also an irritating bastard in the first films, providing childish humour and no-brainer script to the movies.
As for everyone claiming they know they will be dissapointed by this movie, you will only be dissapointed if you go in thinking the movie is going to be a great film. If you know that it won't, they you won't be dissapointed.
Take the movies at face value. They are all certified for younger audiences, even the originals, therefore its pretty safe to assume alot of the content will not only be suitable for younger viewers, but also more enjoyable for them.
Yeah yeah..... mod me down as troll or flamebait just like every time I don't just spit out "Lucas is evil and has destroyed my life" on Star Wars related discussions :P
She's built like a steak house, but she handles like a bistro....
According to the Star Wars: EU, Palpatine had the power/ability to "transfer his consciousness" into a clone, basically to be able to live forever.
My guess is the younger looking Palpatine is a clone that either is directly controlled by Darth Sidious/Emporer P. or a clone that was educated by the elder Palpatine as a "people friendly" version. It would also be the target of the next consciousness transfer.
Let's look at a selected history of lightsaber injuries here. First, Dooku removes one of Anakin Skywalker's hands. Then, if these pics are accurate, Anakin returns the favor by removing both of Dooku's. In Episode V, Anakin (as Vader) removes one of Luke's hands. And finally, Luke returns that favor by removing Vader's prosthetic hand.
You'd think that at this point, some Jedi genius would have come up with at least a hand guard for those goddamn things.
On a different note, I propose a caption contest for the picture of Yoda, prone on the floor with his cane several feet away. My entry is, "When nine-hundred years you reach, as many push-ups you will not be able to do."
Okay -- I don't have any special inside information or anything, but I have been watching the commentary on the new Star Wars DVDs this past week, and after looking at these pictures have some thoughts to share.
Many of these pictures look to be of the type that are taken for marketing purposes, and at least one of them looks to be unfinished. Take a look at the pictures of General Grevious (sp? -- the robot with the lightsabres). All computer generated of course, with what you'd expect a lightsabre to look like. Now take a look at the shot of Darth Sideous/Anakin, in particular their sabres. Note they are just coloured poles -- no "glow". It would appear that these photos haven't gone through post processing yet, as I can't imagine Lucasfilm's marketing department releasing them that way.
This is important, as it's a vector upon which Lucasfilm will probably focus to try to track the source of the leak. Expect someone to get sacked. Some of the photos are obviously unfinished, and it won't be hard to get a list of people who have access to the originals.
Now I'm going to hypothesize about a few things here which, if correct, may turn out to be spoilers. Or they might be worth less than the electrons used to transmit this message. You've been warned. If you don't want to risk potentially reading about something that happens in the film, stop reading here.
With that out of the way, the other photos I find interesting are the ones of the Emperor in the background with Anakin and Darth Tyrannus in a lightsabre duel. It appears to be shades of Eps 6 (Return of the Jedi), with Luke facing off against Vader. In this case, however, I'm presuming that Anakin wins (looking at one photo, apparently by cutting off both Tyrannus' hands, again much like Eps. 6). Thus, it appears to be somewhat of a redux of Return of the Jedi, but with the difference that where Luke wouldn't turn towards the dark side, Anakin (obviously) did.
Which brings up a few interesting questions. Apparently Lucas is going with the whole concept that there can never be any more than two Sith at any given time -- a student and a master. And that as the student gets older, Sideous/Palpatine gets an up-and-coming Jedi to kill them off for him, becoming the new "student" in the process. This could put the whole duel in ROTJ in a new light.
It also adds some new evidence to something I've long wondered about in the prequels, having to do with Anakin being the one prophisized to "bring balance to the Force". Qui-gon, Yoda, and the other Jedi appear to have made the assumption that this can only be a positive thing. However, look at those who are the masters of the Force. There are at least a dozen (or more) Jedi, but only ever two Sith at any given time. If the Force is out of balance, it would appear to be in favour of the "light" side, in which case the imbalance is a good thing. To bring balance to the Force could entail equalizing those who are its masters. If Anakin kills Tyrannus, that leaves two Sith. And from the original trilogy, we know after Eps 3 there are only two Jedi left (Obi-wan and Yoda). Perfectly balanced.
It's good to see Kit Fisto makes another showing, at least :).
Yaz.
"Correct you were, Obi Wan; much improvement Anakin's piloting needs. Tell me, my kidneys around here have you seen ?"
//Information does not want to be free; it wants to breed.
That doesn't even make any sense. The ratings do not indicate the quality of the movies. Jar Jar was abominable, the reliance on CGI (which is not as natural, even, than stop-motion) was a mistake, and the story was not as complex (by the time you get to Ep. IV, there's already three episodes of back story. But at Ep. I, there really isn't much at all).
The movie wasn't targeted at kids (no more so than anyone else), but it was *about* a kid, and *that* was the biggest problem Lucas faced with Ep. I. It's *really* hard to make a movie about a kid that isn't childish. If he acted just like a little boy, it would have been boring, so they had to make him a pod-racing, star fighter-flying top gun war hero, which was *really* asking a lot of the audience. I would have made the film primarily about the Jedi, the Sith, and the Republic, with the rise of Anakin as a minor role, but Lucas wanted it to be primarily about Anakin. Oops.
Had Ep. II been released as Ep. I, things would have been a lot better.
Me too.
The Attack Of The Clones was pretty good.
CLONES fails on nearly every cinematic level except production.
The actors deliver their lines like it's their first run through the script. The only one with any life in him is Lee. The body language is non-existant like a high-school play (remember Han Solo running around in Empire, ducking, weaving, waving his finger, barking his lines -- NO actor in CLONES delivers this kind of energy).
The pacing of the picture is frigid -- it is such a colossal bore, plodding from one fx sequence to another. The pauses and gaps between every line of dialoge are exhausting. What ever happened to Lucas' famous direction "faster and more intense"?
Beloved characters like Yoda are characitures of their former selves ("really says EVERYTHING backwards, Yoda does?"), the beloved wise, mysterious wizard from EMPIRE was once awe-inspiring but is now laughable. (Go back and watch the scene from EMPIRE where he's telling Luke about the force and raises the X-WING from the swamp -- it's compelling and inspiring, there's *nothing* in the prequels that comes close to that scene.)
The "lead" actors Christianson and Portman ... <sigh> ... there's better acting on SAVED BY THE BELL. And their romance is painfully trite. In their defense, they had nothing to work with as their script was pathetic; the most hackneyed writing in recent memory.
The entire plot is an uninspired first draft of a second rate saturday morning cartoon. Each and every sub-plot is completely contrived; Boba Fett and son, Threepio's partnering with R2, the intro of Uncle Ben and Aunt Beru, Shme Skywalkers death. This is all bad, bad, amateur stuff.
I can't wait for the scene in Episode 3 when Anakin says "I want my son to have my light-sabre when he's old enough." Owen replies, "I WON'T ALLOW THAT!". Kenobi whispers to Anakin, "Give it to me, I'll care it" and winks.
Give me strength, honestly.
Factoring in budget, talent, and expectations, CLONE is literally one of the worst movies ever made.
Sam