saw these pics this morning...the general greivous pictures look awesome...what's up with the "x-wing" type fighters though? they appear to have an extra wing in the middle...
the wookie going for nookie picture at the top of the page cracked me up...
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I dunno about these pics. In this one, it looks like Hayden and his bestest buddy just completed a succesful assault on a cheap costume shop in order to get ready for Thursday's bitchin' Halloween kegger down at the Tri-Lams.
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Well according to Star Wars Insider, Dook is supposed to be killed early in the show. And I can assume these pics show that anakin kills Dooku, this is probably when he takes his masters side. According to other sources and star wars insider, palpatine changes form, once he un-clouds the vision the dark side is shrouding. I'm not sure if that means he physically changes, or that he can hide is appearance so well, he can jedi mind trick everyone into looking the way he does (its not really jedi mind trick, it's some sort of spy technique, where you look different from what you are)
General Grevience, is supposed to also die early in the movie as well, I think Star Wars insider shows this. He is basicly a proto-type for Palpatine. Not sure who kills him. All I know is he can fight with 3 light sabers. And he can kill jedi quickly. Samual L Jackson also dies of course. I think he also bites it early in the movie. I think either palpatine kills him, or grevience does.
One of the later battles will be between Anakin and Obi-wan, where somehow obi-wan gets the upper hand, and somehow anakin's body falls or gets hit with lava (aka his dark life support suite).
After this I have no idea if we get to see him in his vadar suit killin jedi, but if we did I'd imagine it wouldn't look good, and hopefully they don't use CGI vadar.
anyways, thats about all I know
Most people agree that the first two movies were pretty much a disgrase to the fanchise. It seems Lucas has decided that special effects should be the focus of the story, instead of the story. The originals were groundbreaking in their look, but also magnificently told a story. The new movies lack that.
With that said, the second one was slightly better than the abortion that was Episode 1. From early word, the new movie will be dark and full of action, and hopefully it will be worthy of the name Star Wars.
The movies are what created the franchise in the first place, and Lucas can take the movies _AND_ the franchise in whatever direction he wants.
I think what you mean is that the first two episodes are a disgrace to _YOUR_ impression of what Star Wars is supposed to be. But this isn't your movie, it's Lucas's. If you don't like it, don't watch it.
The original Star Wars movies are damn good movies, but I think alot of people here forget that when they were first released, they were children or teenagers.
I've said this before and got modded down for it, but screw it. The new Star Wars films aren't really geared towards children any less than the originals were. Sure, Jar Jar is a stupid and annoying character to watch, but C3P0 was also an irritating bastard in the first films, providing childish humour and no-brainer script to the movies.
As for everyone claiming they know they will be dissapointed by this movie, you will only be dissapointed if you go in thinking the movie is going to be a great film. If you know that it won't, they you won't be dissapointed.
Take the movies at face value. They are all certified for younger audiences, even the originals, therefore its pretty safe to assume alot of the content will not only be suitable for younger viewers, but also more enjoyable for them.
Yeah yeah..... mod me down as troll or flamebait just like every time I don't just spit out "Lucas is evil and has destroyed my life" on Star Wars related discussions:P
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Your comparison might be a little more apt if it were Lucas's kids or some other person that were doing the newer movies, but it isn't... it's Lucas himself, the _SAME PERSON_ that invented Star Wars in the first place.
And this, class, is a form of what we call a "strawman". You see, the grandparent post was referring to George Lucas having the right to make Star Wars movies how he wants. Parent, on the other hand, is putting forward a strawman (creating a position and attacking it), by putting forward the analogy of a the decendant of the creator of a work of art changing of a series his ancestor created. There is a difference.
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And this, folks, is what we call a four-eyed spaz completely missing the point.:-P
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My original post was mostly in jest, but the argument that Lucas is "the same guy" doesn't hold any water. Flesh and blood, perhaps. Spiritually, and in his soul, definitely not.
C'mon, how many 60+-year-olds do you know who are the "same guy" they were in their 20's? Or haven't you noticed how conservative Dennis Miller has become?
Just because he's the same DNA doesn't make him the same person. This is the Evil George we're seeing now.
A little fire for your strawman: if Orson Welles were alive today and wanted to make a sequel to "Citizen Kane" in which Jason Biggs fucks a pie, would you have something to say?
... Lucas has decided that special effects should be the focus of the story, instead of the story. The originals were groundbreaking in their look, but also magnificently told a story.
I agree. I've said many times before that the orginal movies told a great story against a scifi backdrop. And the new movies tell a so-so story against a great scifi backdrop.
Also in the orginals, there was build up and then an action scene. Then more build up and another action scene. They were paced like that. Contrast that to Esp. I. Almost the whole movie was build up. Then at the end there is several battles going on at once.
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That doesn't even make any sense. The ratings do not indicate the quality of the movies. Jar Jar was abominable, the reliance on CGI (which is not as natural, even, than stop-motion) was a mistake, and the story was not as complex (by the time you get to Ep. IV, there's already three episodes of back story. But at Ep. I, there really isn't much at all).
The movie wasn't targeted at kids (no more so than anyone else), but it was *about* a kid, and *that* was the biggest problem Lucas faced with Ep. I. It's *really* hard to make a movie about a kid that isn't childish. If he acted just like a little boy, it would have been boring, so they had to make him a pod-racing, star fighter-flying top gun war hero, which was *really* asking a lot of the audience. I would have made the film primarily about the Jedi, the Sith, and the Republic, with the rise of Anakin as a minor role, but Lucas wanted it to be primarily about Anakin. Oops.
Had Ep. II been released as Ep. I, things would have been a lot better.
As I recall, from one of the extras on the DVD, Lee has been a life-long fan of LOTR. In fact he claimed that he has read it once a year for many years now. I suppose if I was a huge fan of a book, and was an actor with some influence, I'd try to get in on the movie project for the book.
Re:Found you!
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From watching countless movies over the years I've come to the conclusion that actors need to be inspired by a good screenplay more than by direction. No matter who they're working for, no actor looks or feels like a genius when uttering lines or going through plot motions that would make George Lucas look like Tennessee Williams.
Re:Found you!
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And thank God for that, because I can't picture a better casting choice for Saruman than Christopher Lee. And with an equally impressive choice of Ian McKellen as Gandalf, the showdown in FoTR was nothing less than spectacular.
In fact, if you ask me we've seen three of movie-making's best "clashes of the Titans" all in recent years. Christopher Lee and Ian McKellen in LoTR. Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart in X-Men. Alan Rickman and Gary Oldman in HP:TPoA. All examples of fantastic casting, IMO.
I've got a better title for Episode III:
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JoeLinux
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"Episode III: The last chance for Lucas".
Seriously...is anyone going into this thing with high hopes? Episode I was like watching my childhood melt into easily-marketable claptrap, and Episode II felt like the actors had full-body botox.
Who is going to see this expecting a wonderful, rounded, well-acted movie? Don't get me wrong, I intend to see it, but mostly because of morbid curiosity.
I dunno...I guess I'm still bitter about LucasArts cancelling Sam and Max for more Star Wars Title. Damn them!
Re:I've got a better title for Episode III:
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It took Lucas 2-3 decades to achieve what Wachowski brothers achieved in 2-3 years - undoing of great movie-making for money!!
Re:I've got a better title for Episode III:
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Oh, I don't think I ever go to a Star Wars movie for a "well-acted" movie, even the original ones. But from what I've seen the eye candy in this up coming one looks like it'll succesfully make me go "Ooo" and that's the extent of my hopes and expectations. I think I will be pleased.
Re:I've got a better title for Episode III:
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Don't know about the movie, but I'm sure I will find Natalie Portman to be wonderful and rounded in Ep. III.
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Re:I've got a better title for Episode III:
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Well-acted? Ok, well I guess Mark Hamill got all these great acting jobs after Episode IV because of his amazing talent.
Not to say anything, but this has always been the problem with me vs all Star Wars fans. The thing is, when you guys saw it in 77, you were "hypnotized" by it because it was all new. But all in all, it's Spider-Man with a laser sword. (Trust me, I'm not trying to diss Star Wars, I'm a huge fan myself)
I just think the thing was so overblown back then that people now have made it their own movie. But this is Lucas' movie. You either like it or you don't but this is his creation. You couldn't very well show up at his doorstep and tell George Lucas "I think the 3rd episode Luke Skywalker needs to be back as a dark Jedi". That's something that would never work for George, and he would never do it.
This movie has gotten to the point of fanatism by so many, and look at what happens when fans become fanatics: Dimebag Darrell from Damageplan/Pantera died for what again? Yes, that's right -- for a FAN. An unstable, crazed-out, Pantera fanatic.
People write stuff on the internet as though they are throwing their own thoughts straight out onto a diary, but others read it and then it becomes this HUGE thing. "Morbid curiosity"... does that mean Jar-Jar Binks killed your Star Wars dream of seeing Han Solo naked in the forest? Are you mad at George Lucas? I think you should call him.
See how stupid this sounds? I'm a fan, not a fanatic. I know LOTS of trivia about Star wars, but I take what Lucas gives me, and deal with it. So why can't the rest of geek nation?
Re:I've got a better title for Episode III:
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Episode I was like watching my childhood melt into easily-marketable claptrap
You know, I've felt the same way about Episode I. I hated it.
But then this past week I had a revelation. In the years since it was relesed, I had a kid. He's about four and a half years old now. We've watched the first (original) three together (including pausing at the Guido scene to explain that Han shot first), and he's loved them.
Then we watched Episide I last week. And while I was sitting there squirming and re-living the pain, he was REALLY loving it. Jar Jar... "He's funny!". He cracked up at the pod race announcers. Anikin accidentally destroying the space station was met with "That was AWESOME!".
Episide I was not for me. It was designed to satisfy the intellect of a four year old. Well, "designed to" may be to strong, but that's where it succeeded, whether that was the intention or not. Everying I loathed about it, he loved. It's sad that Lucas smashed my dreams of a satisfying first chapter, but my four year old thinks differently.
-S
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Re:I've got a better title for Episode III:
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Your assumption that you can appeal to four-year olds or adults but not both is a false dichotomy. From an interview with Pixar's Craig Good:
NRO: The father of five, I'm something of an expert on animated feature films, if I do say so myself -- and Pixar productions are simply and incomparably the best. Your stuff delights my three-year old, my thirteen-year-old, the three kids in between, and their parents and grandparents. How do you guys do it?
Good: Simple. We don't make movies for kids. We make movies for adults, actually ourselves, and then just make sure there's nothing in them that the little ones shouldn't see. The local cineplex is littered with movies made by studios who want to second-guess what the audience wants. We find we get better results by making what we want, and then assuming that there are other people like us out there.
If audiences in general are underestimated, kids really get the patronizing treatment. Two things are often forgotten about kids. One: They have no taste. They will watch just about anything. This is normal and healthy. Taste comes later. Two: They are not stupid! Kids are born intelligent, and there's no good reason to make dumbed-down entertainment for them.
Re:I've got a better title for Episode III:
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Actually, it IS Lucas' fault. When he made the original trilogy, his ego was much smaller and he allowed others to refine his creative "vision", and even contribute their own ideas. Now his ego is bigger and the new trilogy is exactly what the old trilogy would have been if not for the influence of others.
I used to think Lucas was engaging in revisionist history when he said "I never wanted Han to shoot first. That was never part of my original vision." Now, I'm pretty sure he's right. The reason Han shot first was probably because someone else decided he should.
After all, Lucas didn't even want Obi Wan to die until his wife told him his villains were cartoonish and nonthreatening unless they killed a good guy. Now cartoonish is all we get.
Re:I've got a better title for Episode III:
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Quite a few of the movies and tv shows that seem to be, or thought to be 'aimed' at children tend to be made by and for adults originally. Take "The Muppet Show" (which may have not been made for adults, specifically), for example. It's hilarious to a kid to watch, but it's even funnier to adults that get a lot of the 'in' jokes that only adult experience catches. Same for Looney Tunes cartoons.
Re:I've got a better title for Episode III:
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There is only ONE Matrix movie. Got it?
Re:I've got a better title for Episode III:
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Well, in the extras in the trilogy box, Lucas says he likes to use concepts and scenes of other movies in the new ones. Like the trailer in Episode II, apprentice fighting dark evil lord, starship battle in an asteroid field and so on.
So, I have great expectations for Episode III: Natalie Portman in Gold Bikini!!
Re:I've got a better title for Episode III:
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Genrou
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Here is a half complete list of future changes when the six movies are released in a DVD box next year:
In Episode IV:
The face of Ewan McGregor is digitally aged and imposed over sir Alec Guiness face.
Darth Vader is digitally shrinked to fit Hayden Christensen, and his voice is now done by Rick Moranis.
The dialog between Han and Greedo changes. Now Han tries to convice Greedo to abandon his life of crimes. Greedo shoots himself.
In Episode V:
Darth Vader's lightsaber is not red anymore, but violet, with yellow sparks.
There is a new and very emotional scene of Boba Fett gathering with stormtroopers, whom he calls brothers.
Since it might shock people, Luke's hand is not chopped off. Instead, he throws his lightsaber out and cries for mercy.
In Episode VI:
Leia's gold bikini is replaced with a dress hiding everything from neck to ankles.
Includes now a shot of the Magical World of Oz, with munchkins singing "Ding, dong, the witch is gone."
Jar-jar Binks appears as a ghost beside Obi-wan, Yoda and Anakin.
Aint it incorrect..
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Personally after the HHGG (Zaphod's second head is up his nose) and Zeta Gundam (A real Gundam is being made for a movie! Here's some pictures which are infact a 1/2 scale Gundam model been around for 10 years!), incidents. I think I'll hold off on any "leaked" or "hot new news" untill it's been comfirmed by a source I trust.
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lowered expectations
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Saw these pics this morning...they look good.
Which pretty much sums up my expectations: it looks neat from the previews, and probably will disappoint me in the end. I was in line at Blockbuster with my girlfriend the other night, looking at recent releases, and noting how many of them had excellent trailers, and how many of them actually turned out to be worth watching. Almost anything looks good when your interaction with it consists of a trailer, some stills, a few out-of-context quotes and maybe a rough plot.
I'll get my ticket, I'll see the movie, I'll be disappointed, and, you know, whatever. And so will you.
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Re:lowered expectations
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dema
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I'll get my ticket, I'll see the movie, I'll be disappointed, and, you know, whatever. And so will you.
I sure won't. I got my ticket, saw Episode I, was dissapointed, didn't buy the DVD, and haven't seen Episode II. If you don't want people like Lucas to pull crap like this, why do you pay to see movies you know won't live up to your expectations?
Re:lowered expectations
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Episode 2 is worth renting to see Yoda get busy with a lightsaber.
Is anyone else really disturbed by the fact that there is nobody to root for in the prequel films? The "good guys" like Yoda and Obi Wan are fighting along side stormtrooper 1.0s for the people who will later become the Empire . The whole idea of prequels is just stupid because we know exactly what the situation is going to be at the end. The minute I saw Samuel Jackson on screen I knew that he was going to get waxed sooner or later.
George Lucas has one chance to turn the ship around. He can turn over all writing and directing duties to other people and let them run with Episodes 7-9.
Just rambling.
-B
Re:lowered expectations
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Dutchmaan
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Episode 2 is worth renting to see Yoda get busy with a lightsaber.
Maybe it's just me, but it didn't really sit right with me that Yoda, "got busy" with the lightsaber. First of all getting all acrobatic just isn't his style.. not to mention hopping around like a mexican jumping bean.
Yoda is calm and reserved with great mental control. IMHO Yoda should have fought with a completely defensive style... Dooku.. (or whatever his name was) should have been fighting Yoda in vain...
Just like the emporer on the dark side, Yoda should be "beyond the light saber". I suppose it could be argued that this was taking place at an earlier time when Yoda was less disciplined... but Yoda IMO is to the light side what the emporer is to the dark..
You would never have seen Palpatine pick up a light saber.. he's more into manipulating people to do his bidding. Yoda is more about cultivating the light side in the people around him.
Two sides of the same coin.
Re:lowered expectations
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"I was in line at Blockbuster with my girlfriend.."
Wait, stop right there. You're aware this is Slashdot, right? At least try to relate to the audience you're posting to.
Blockbuster. Yeah, right...
Re:lowered expectations
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Wow, you never saw Ep 2??
Dude, that was the one where it all starts to make sense!
You mean you never saw the epic battle between Anakin and Darth Jar Jar? One of the best sequences in ANY film EVER!
"Meesa gonna cut yousa, Annie! Meesa gonna cut yousa real good! Yousa not gonna see dat sun come out tomorrow! Yousa gonna feel the power of the dark side!"
Man that was cool. Then Darth Jar Jar KILLED Anakin and assumed his identity. Wicked. THAT's why Darth Vader wears that damned mask that filters his voice! Ep 5 would have sounded pretty weird if Vader had said, "Luke, meesa you fadder!" Ep 4 would have sucked if he had said "Meesa find yousa's lack of faith distoobin!"
http://www.idontfear.com/
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Okay lads, this guy is asking for it! With a URL like http://www.idontfear.com/ , surely he's mocking the slashdot effect. Bring out all your Amigas and C64s and we'll have his server linched by dawn!
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Re:http://www.idontfear.com/
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Joking aside, "I don't fear" was a supposed EP3 spoiler quote from one of the LFL production folks.
Not sure what they were, but they were not starwars.. They were garbage..
Really a shame, as they could have been great..
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Re:Is it just me...
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Or is Chewbacca groping Leia?
Dude, he's totally grabbing her boob. Han is so going to be pissed when he hears about this.
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What the new movies are lacking...
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Anyone notice how the first three movies all had a good chunk of time allocate to space/ship battles? While the new movies have practically none? I hope those X-wing looking thngs are indicative of things to come. Though, I am disapointed at not seeing any Z-95s.
Slashdotted! Why are you guys clicking on the link
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Seriously, Slashdot keeps trashing the prequels, saying you'll never see them coz they suck, yada yada yada... and yet that site got slashdotted quicker than lightspeed. Why do you even care? Do you genuinely dislike them, or s it just some kind of slashdot groupthink conformity that makes you bash something you don't have to see if you don't want to?
Now, I'm not defending George Lucas (I didn't think the prequels were great... nor did the acting make me want to care about any of the characters). But still, it wasn't horrible. I could still enjoy watching the story unfold into what we know happens in Episodes 4-6. It is backstory, but I admit I had fun discovering what happens to the galaxy as a whole before the empire. It's fun to know about the Jedi order in its heyday, talked about in the original trilogy.
But hey, this is Slashdot. Continue your bashing.
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Well that doesn't do us much good since the google cache doesn't include the pics...
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I'm confused about these pics
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I posted this in my/. journal last night so I'll give you guys a crack at it:
I'm a big Star Wars fan... not a nut, but a fan.
I didn't like the 1st prequel, although it wasn't as bad as many of the people on/. slice and dice it.
The Attack Of The Clones was pretty good. I would rank it with Jedi
The Revenge Of The Sith is shaping up to be pretty awesome looking. As many are putting it - this movie BETTER be good because it's the whole reason Episodes 4,5, and 6 were done. I think in a way, this proves that Lucas was right to do 4,5,6 rather than 1,2,3 first.
I have enjoyed seeing the story behind the story and the elaborate plot of the emporer to wage war to be able to wage war and slowly kill off the "good troops and jedi" to be able to control the weak and lord over the ruthless.
I am quite confused though about the new leaked images that have surfaced on the net.
http://www.idontfear.com/
I thought Palpatine WAS the emporer! And all along I thought it was Palpatine behind that hood when talking to Dooku and Darth Maul. The pictures would indicate otherwise, unless it is telling that the dark side in it's truest form transforms you into an ugly creature. Was Maul just a black guy? Then when he was consumed by the dark side - grow horns and intricate red tattoos? It seems this way. Either that - or the emporer is NOT Palpatine - maybe he is a clone? Maybe Palpatine is a clone of the emporer??
Why isn't Dooku all crazy creature fangy snarly?
I would also like for it to be explained how Anakin looks like he does in Episodes 5 and 6 (behind shot in 5, full head shot in 6) - because if he was consumed by the dark side - where is his evil look?
The only hint, so far, that I have seen is in the teaser trailer - Anakin (Hayden Christenson) turns around and his eyes are yellow.
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Re:I'm confused about these pics
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Why isn't Dooku all crazy creature fangy snarly?
Man, he's Dracula! What more do you want?
TWW
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Re:I'm confused about these pics
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According to the Star Wars: EU, Palpatine had the power/ability to "transfer his consciousness" into a clone, basically to be able to live forever.
My guess is the younger looking Palpatine is a clone that either is directly controlled by Darth Sidious/Emporer P. or a clone that was educated by the elder Palpatine as a "people friendly" version. It would also be the target of the next consciousness transfer.
Re:I'm confused about these pics
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I'm a big Star Wars fan... not a nut, but a fan.
Me too.
The Attack Of The Clones was pretty good.
CLONES fails on nearly every cinematic level except production.
The actors deliver their lines like it's their first run through the script. The only one with any life in him is Lee. The body language is non-existant like a high-school play (remember Han Solo running around in Empire, ducking, weaving, waving his finger, barking his lines -- NO actor in CLONES delivers this kind of energy).
The pacing of the picture is frigid -- it is such a colossal bore, plodding from one fx sequence to another. The pauses and gaps between every line of dialoge are exhausting. What ever happened to Lucas' famous direction "faster and more intense"?
Beloved characters like Yoda are characitures of their former selves ("really says EVERYTHING backwards, Yoda does?"), the beloved wise, mysterious wizard from EMPIRE was once awe-inspiring but is now laughable. (Go back and watch the scene from EMPIRE where he's telling Luke about the force and raises the X-WING from the swamp -- it's compelling and inspiring, there's *nothing* in the prequels that comes close to that scene.)
The "lead" actors Christianson and Portman... <sigh>... there's better acting on SAVED BY THE BELL. And their romance is painfully trite. In their defense, they had nothing to work with as their script was pathetic; the most hackneyed writing in recent memory.
The entire plot is an uninspired first draft of a second rate saturday morning cartoon. Each and every sub-plot is completely contrived; Boba Fett and son, Threepio's partnering with R2, the intro of Uncle Ben and Aunt Beru, Shme Skywalkers death. This is all bad, bad, amateur stuff.
I can't wait for the scene in Episode 3 when Anakin says "I want my son to have my light-sabre when he's old enough." Owen replies, "I WON'T ALLOW THAT!". Kenobi whispers to Anakin, "Give it to me, I'll care it" and winks.
Give me strength, honestly.
Factoring in budget, talent, and expectations, CLONE is literally one of the worst movies ever made.
Sam
Posting this on slashdot ...
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Is just one of lucas films dirty tricks to bring that site down.
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Re:Google cache version
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saintp
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Gee, that's really useful, since Google doesn't cache pictures, people! It never has, and probably never will, which makes it largely useless for stories like this.
More Deals with Lego?
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955301
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Okay, I know Lego does Star Wars themed sets, but now Star Wars is doing Lego's Bionicles? I guess it's only fair. And my nephew will probably stop calling what was a staple of my youth "hecka lame".
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Re:Slashdotted! Why are you guys clicking on the l
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AceCaseOR
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True, but Star Wars-bashing (and especially prequel-bashing), tends to take a large volume of posts, and often gets modded up.
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Re:Slashdotted! Why are you guys clicking on the l
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Seriously, Slashdot keeps trashing the prequels, saying you'll never see them coz they suck, yada yada yada...
The Slashdot community is fairly large. The number of bashes vs. the number of people who keep quiet is really high. Not to say that every user of SD sits on either side of the fence but it's not what it appears to be. It's like the LA riots years ago; the news never reported that 18 million or so LA residents didn't riot. You only seen those who did.
and yet that site got slashdotted quicker than lightspeed.
I'm sure this access to the site isn't a slashdot only type of deal. These previews are going to cause a buzz elsewhere.
Do you genuinely dislike them, or s it just some kind of slashdot groupthink conformity that makes you bash something you don't have to see if you don't want to?
I personally don't like them, just my two cents. Why do you bash the bashers? You don't have to read our comments just as we don't have to see the new films. The door swings both ways.
Now, I'm not defending George Lucas
I think that defending Lucas at this point is even beyond the powers of the Jedi.
But hey, this is Slashdot. Continue your bashing.
Thanks for the permission.
-- Dedicated Cthulhu Cultist since 4523 BC.
A bit about some of new stuff
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nomadicpuma
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General Grievous:
http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/general grievous/
If you haven't seen the cartoon series that ran on Cartoon Network a bit ago, he's the jedi-killing droid. Judging by the site, it seems he'll be the main baddie in Episode III.
As for the 6-winged X-Wings, I was a bit suprised - I thought they'd show Headhunters (2-winged), which, according to the books, are the proto-X-Wings.
Re:Google cache version
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MarkVVV
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Re:It's a good thing they got slashdotted...
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sjaskow
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Um, they are "leaked", here but it's definitely not a work-safe page.:)
Episode one was, um...
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hobbsbutcher
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Just for the record, I didn't think "episode one" was bad - just boring.
-- Jonathan B.
Re:Movies - mod parent down!
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charlesbakerharris
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No, the parent comment doesn't hold up. If there is widespread agreement that the movies sucked, and that the original 3 movies were far better, than it's grandparent-poster's right to call it a disgrace.
Did parent somehow think that "disgrace" was anything but a person's opinion? Or that the grandparent somehow didn't know that they could not watch the movie if they didn't like it? That's like telling me that I need to "get real" because I don't like to eat bell peppers (I don't, really.) Of course it's his opinion - pointing that out didn't add anything to the discussion. He's far from alone in his opinion, and he has a right to post it without being told to "get real" by someone who posts a canned, tired response.
Sure, Lucas can take the franchise in any direction he wants. In the minds of an large number of people, he took it in a sappy, thinly-plotted, clumsily scripted direction, marked by brilliant special effects, uneasy scenes, mediocre editing, and some poor acting from otherwise-usually-good actors. Lucas has the freedom to do this because he knows he has a franchise that will sell no matter what; it's just too bad that he did it in this fashion. (Yes, parent, this is my opinion. You need not point that out.)
Parent's arguments are specious and scarcely relevant; mod accordingly.
unhand me, you fiend.
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sammy+baby
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Let's look at a selected history of lightsaber injuries here. First, Dooku removes one of Anakin Skywalker's hands. Then, if these pics are accurate, Anakin returns the favor by removing both of Dooku's. In Episode V, Anakin (as Vader) removes one of Luke's hands. And finally, Luke returns that favor by removing Vader's prosthetic hand.
You'd think that at this point, some Jedi genius would have come up with at least a hand guard for those goddamn things.
On a different note, I propose a caption contest for the picture of Yoda, prone on the floor with his cane several feet away. My entry is, "When nine-hundred years you reach, as many push-ups you will not be able to do."
Re:unhand me, you fiend.
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BiggerBoat
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"Frank Oz's hand up my ass, I need."
Warning: here (may) be spoilers.
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Yaztromo
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Okay -- I don't have any special inside information or anything, but I have been watching the commentary on the new Star Wars DVDs this past week, and after looking at these pictures have some thoughts to share.
Many of these pictures look to be of the type that are taken for marketing purposes, and at least one of them looks to be unfinished. Take a look at the pictures of General Grevious (sp? -- the robot with the lightsabres). All computer generated of course, with what you'd expect a lightsabre to look like. Now take a look at the shot of Darth Sideous/Anakin, in particular their sabres. Note they are just coloured poles -- no "glow". It would appear that these photos haven't gone through post processing yet, as I can't imagine Lucasfilm's marketing department releasing them that way.
This is important, as it's a vector upon which Lucasfilm will probably focus to try to track the source of the leak. Expect someone to get sacked. Some of the photos are obviously unfinished, and it won't be hard to get a list of people who have access to the originals.
Now I'm going to hypothesize about a few things here which, if correct, may turn out to be spoilers. Or they might be worth less than the electrons used to transmit this message. You've been warned. If you don't want to risk potentially reading about something that happens in the film, stop reading here.
With that out of the way, the other photos I find interesting are the ones of the Emperor in the background with Anakin and Darth Tyrannus in a lightsabre duel. It appears to be shades of Eps 6 (Return of the Jedi), with Luke facing off against Vader. In this case, however, I'm presuming that Anakin wins (looking at one photo, apparently by cutting off both Tyrannus' hands, again much like Eps. 6). Thus, it appears to be somewhat of a redux of Return of the Jedi, but with the difference that where Luke wouldn't turn towards the dark side, Anakin (obviously) did.
Which brings up a few interesting questions. Apparently Lucas is going with the whole concept that there can never be any more than two Sith at any given time -- a student and a master. And that as the student gets older, Sideous/Palpatine gets an up-and-coming Jedi to kill them off for him, becoming the new "student" in the process. This could put the whole duel in ROTJ in a new light.
It also adds some new evidence to something I've long wondered about in the prequels, having to do with Anakin being the one prophisized to "bring balance to the Force". Qui-gon, Yoda, and the other Jedi appear to have made the assumption that this can only be a positive thing. However, look at those who are the masters of the Force. There are at least a dozen (or more) Jedi, but only ever two Sith at any given time. If the Force is out of balance, it would appear to be in favour of the "light" side, in which case the imbalance is a good thing. To bring balance to the Force could entail equalizing those who are its masters. If Anakin kills Tyrannus, that leaves two Sith. And from the original trilogy, we know after Eps 3 there are only two Jedi left (Obi-wan and Yoda). Perfectly balanced.
It's good to see Kit Fisto makes another showing, at least:).
Yaz.
Notes from a non-sci fi/star wars fan
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hkb
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I have virtually no interest in science fiction or star wars or any of that cruft. I thought the first two movies (Phantom Menace? and Attack of the Clones? I think?) were okay... mediocre.
I saw the sneak preview trailer for the third movie when my gf and I were watching Meet The Fockers (great movie). The sneak preview for the third movie looked pretty damn cool, and I must say got me eager to want to see it.
Looks like a lot of cool plot unfoldings and lots of action. I remember seeing the preview trailers for the other movies and they didn't really do much for me. Here's hoping that Lucas or whoever's making them now, finally listened to the people and went back to the drawing board to develop something decent, so it doesn't turn into a mediocre Matrix trilogy flop.
Too bad they didn't get the LOTR guy to make these three movies.
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Correct link to General Grievous
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TurretMaster
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That has just summed up what I think about episodes 1 and 2.
We were kids when we watched the original Star Wars episodes. We didn't expect much of a movie, and the bad animations and bad acting were not problems then. In ep. 1, we have great CG graphics and all the bad acting, but now it seems to bother us. Guess what, we're grown ups now.
I, too watched Episode 1 with my 2 nephews (5 and 6 yo at the time), and they thought it was awesome too.
People just seem to take bashing at Lucas as a sport. He did episodes 4-6 for money too, didn't he?
Re:The real revenge of the Sith
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I7D
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Look, my view of Star-Wars is that its really cool and I enjoyed every single movie, probably because i'm not such a die-hard fan. I got angry about the Han shooting second thing only because everybody else did.
That said, the most die hard fan to the most passive fan will go see this movie, theres no stopping it. Its like gasoline. We hate to pay for it, know its a waste of money, but we neeed it.
-- Neil is that you? Yeah yeah, it's me... Neil...
Re:Is it just me...
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Han is so going to be pissed when he hears about this.
Yeah, but as the saying goes
"...Let the Wookie win"
on the contrary
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WotanKhan
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The success of the original trilogy (and I mean their quality as well as commercial) is largely a result of the talented people Lucas assembled to make them. Not the least was the work of the then relatively unknown Harrison Ford, and of the masters Sir Alec Guinness, Peter Cushing (as Tarkin) and the voice work of James Earl Jones. I thought Anthony Daniels as C-3PO was believable and humorous. The rest of the cast was quite adequate to the task.
I don't fault the actors for their performances in the new trilogy, except perhaps Hayden Christianson. It was truly disheartening to watch the valiant effort made by Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor to bring some life to a truly abysmal script, only to be deliberately upstaged at every turn by a megalomaniac director and his hideous cgi.
Re:Canary Trap
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GoofyBoy
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http://www.encyclopedia-online.info/Canary_trap
-- The surprise isn't how often we make bad choices; the surprise is how seldom they defeat us.
Re:2 Sith and Why that is-
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OK, so how did Sidious, Maul, and Tyrannus all exist at the same time? And frankly, calling yourself a "Lord" when there are only 2 of you reminds me a lot of Calvin declaring himself Supreme Dictator for Life.
Re:Is it just me...
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Slashdot Mirror
saw these pics this morning...the general greivous pictures look awesome...what's up with the "x-wing" type fighters though? they appear to have an extra wing in the middle...
the wookie going for nookie picture at the top of the page cracked me up...
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." - Homer Simpson
Most people agree that the first two movies were pretty much a disgrase to the fanchise. It seems Lucas has decided that special effects should be the focus of the story, instead of the story. The originals were groundbreaking in their look, but also magnificently told a story. The new movies lack that. With that said, the second one was slightly better than the abortion that was Episode 1. From early word, the new movie will be dark and full of action, and hopefully it will be worthy of the name Star Wars.
Dude, what is Saruman doing there? I knew he didn't really die. You have to watch those slippery ones all the damn time.
"Episode III: The last chance for Lucas".
Seriously...is anyone going into this thing with high hopes? Episode I was like watching my childhood melt into easily-marketable claptrap, and Episode II felt like the actors had full-body botox.
Who is going to see this expecting a wonderful, rounded, well-acted movie? Don't get me wrong, I intend to see it, but mostly because of morbid curiosity.
I dunno...I guess I'm still bitter about LucasArts cancelling Sam and Max for more Star Wars Title. Damn them!
Personally after the HHGG (Zaphod's second head is up his nose) and Zeta Gundam (A real Gundam is being made for a movie! Here's some pictures which are infact a 1/2 scale Gundam model been around for 10 years!), incidents. I think I'll hold off on any "leaked" or "hot new news" untill it's been comfirmed by a source I trust.
I like muppets.
Saw these pics this morning...they look good.
Which pretty much sums up my expectations: it looks neat from the previews, and probably will disappoint me in the end. I was in line at Blockbuster with my girlfriend the other night, looking at recent releases, and noting how many of them had excellent trailers, and how many of them actually turned out to be worth watching. Almost anything looks good when your interaction with it consists of a trailer, some stills, a few out-of-context quotes and maybe a rough plot.
I'll get my ticket, I'll see the movie, I'll be disappointed, and, you know, whatever. And so will you.
--- Where's my car, and why are these grass stains on my pants?
Okay lads, this guy is asking for it! With a URL like http://www.idontfear.com/ , surely he's mocking the slashdot effect. Bring out all your Amigas and C64s and we'll have his server linched by dawn!
I like muppets.
Too bad the last 2 movies were not..
Not sure what they were, but they were not starwars.. They were garbage..
Really a shame, as they could have been great..
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Or is Chewbacca groping Leia?
Dude, he's totally grabbing her boob. Han is so going to be pissed when he hears about this.
I'd rather be a conservative nutjob than a liberal with no nuts and no job.
Anyone notice how the first three movies all had a good chunk of time allocate to space/ship battles? While the new movies have practically none? I hope those X-wing looking thngs are indicative of things to come. Though, I am disapointed at not seeing any Z-95s.
Seriously, Slashdot keeps trashing the prequels, saying you'll never see them coz they suck, yada yada yada... and yet that site got slashdotted quicker than lightspeed. Why do you even care? Do you genuinely dislike them, or s it just some kind of slashdot groupthink conformity that makes you bash something you don't have to see if you don't want to?
Now, I'm not defending George Lucas (I didn't think the prequels were great... nor did the acting make me want to care about any of the characters). But still, it wasn't horrible. I could still enjoy watching the story unfold into what we know happens in Episodes 4-6. It is backstory, but I admit I had fun discovering what happens to the galaxy as a whole before the empire. It's fun to know about the Jedi order in its heyday, talked about in the original trilogy.
But hey, this is Slashdot. Continue your bashing.
"Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it." -- Linus Torvalds
Well that doesn't do us much good since the google cache doesn't include the pics...
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I posted this in my /. journal last night so I'll give you guys a crack at it:
... not a nut, but a fan.
/. slice and dice it.
I'm a big Star Wars fan
I didn't like the 1st prequel, although it wasn't as bad as many of the people on
The Attack Of The Clones was pretty good. I would rank it with Jedi
The Revenge Of The Sith is shaping up to be pretty awesome looking. As many are putting it - this movie BETTER be good because it's the whole reason Episodes 4,5, and 6 were done. I think in a way, this proves that Lucas was right to do 4,5,6 rather than 1,2,3 first.
I have enjoyed seeing the story behind the story and the elaborate plot of the emporer to wage war to be able to wage war and slowly kill off the "good troops and jedi" to be able to control the weak and lord over the ruthless.
I am quite confused though about the new leaked images that have surfaced on the net.
http://www.idontfear.com/
I thought Palpatine WAS the emporer! And all along I thought it was Palpatine behind that hood when talking to Dooku and Darth Maul. The pictures would indicate otherwise, unless it is telling that the dark side in it's truest form transforms you into an ugly creature. Was Maul just a black guy? Then when he was consumed by the dark side - grow horns and intricate red tattoos? It seems this way. Either that - or the emporer is NOT Palpatine - maybe he is a clone? Maybe Palpatine is a clone of the emporer??
Why isn't Dooku all crazy creature fangy snarly?
I would also like for it to be explained how Anakin looks like he does in Episodes 5 and 6 (behind shot in 5, full head shot in 6) - because if he was consumed by the dark side - where is his evil look?
The only hint, so far, that I have seen is in the teaser trailer - Anakin (Hayden Christenson) turns around and his eyes are yellow.
Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
Is just one of lucas films dirty tricks to bring that site down.
Emacs is good operating system, but it has one flaw: Its text editor could be better.
I have to agree. There are worse movies than the prequels.
Zagreus sits inside your head, Zagreus lives among the dead, Zagreus sees you in your bed and eats you in your sleep.
mirrordot.org
Luckily, Mirrordot got it.
Another one bites the dust
Okay, I know Lego does Star Wars themed sets, but now Star Wars is doing Lego's Bionicles? I guess it's only fair. And my nephew will probably stop calling what was a staple of my youth "hecka lame".
You are checking your backups, aren't you?
True, but Star Wars-bashing (and especially prequel-bashing), tends to take a large volume of posts, and often gets modded up.
Zagreus sits inside your head, Zagreus lives among the dead, Zagreus sees you in your bed and eats you in your sleep.
Seriously, Slashdot keeps trashing the prequels, saying you'll never see them coz they suck, yada yada yada...
The Slashdot community is fairly large. The number of bashes vs. the number of people who keep quiet is really high. Not to say that every user of SD sits on either side of the fence but it's not what it appears to be. It's like the LA riots years ago; the news never reported that 18 million or so LA residents didn't riot. You only seen those who did.
and yet that site got slashdotted quicker than lightspeed.
I'm sure this access to the site isn't a slashdot only type of deal. These previews are going to cause a buzz elsewhere.
Do you genuinely dislike them, or s it just some kind of slashdot groupthink conformity that makes you bash something you don't have to see if you don't want to?
I personally don't like them, just my two cents. Why do you bash the bashers? You don't have to read our comments just as we don't have to see the new films. The door swings both ways.
Now, I'm not defending George Lucas
I think that defending Lucas at this point is even beyond the powers of the Jedi.
But hey, this is Slashdot. Continue your bashing.
Thanks for the permission.
Dedicated Cthulhu Cultist since 4523 BC.
General Grievous: http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/general grievous/
If you haven't seen the cartoon series that ran on Cartoon Network a bit ago, he's the jedi-killing droid. Judging by the site, it seems he'll be the main baddie in Episode III.
As for the 6-winged X-Wings, I was a bit suprised - I thought they'd show Headhunters (2-winged), which, according to the books, are the proto-X-Wings.
not only Mirrordot, but nyud.net also has it
Um, they are "leaked", here but it's definitely not a work-safe page. :)
Just for the record, I didn't think "episode one" was bad - just boring.
Jonathan B.
Did parent somehow think that "disgrace" was anything but a person's opinion? Or that the grandparent somehow didn't know that they could not watch the movie if they didn't like it? That's like telling me that I need to "get real" because I don't like to eat bell peppers (I don't, really.) Of course it's his opinion - pointing that out didn't add anything to the discussion. He's far from alone in his opinion, and he has a right to post it without being told to "get real" by someone who posts a canned, tired response.
Sure, Lucas can take the franchise in any direction he wants. In the minds of an large number of people, he took it in a sappy, thinly-plotted, clumsily scripted direction, marked by brilliant special effects, uneasy scenes, mediocre editing, and some poor acting from otherwise-usually-good actors. Lucas has the freedom to do this because he knows he has a franchise that will sell no matter what; it's just too bad that he did it in this fashion. (Yes, parent, this is my opinion. You need not point that out.)
Parent's arguments are specious and scarcely relevant; mod accordingly.
Let's look at a selected history of lightsaber injuries here. First, Dooku removes one of Anakin Skywalker's hands. Then, if these pics are accurate, Anakin returns the favor by removing both of Dooku's. In Episode V, Anakin (as Vader) removes one of Luke's hands. And finally, Luke returns that favor by removing Vader's prosthetic hand.
You'd think that at this point, some Jedi genius would have come up with at least a hand guard for those goddamn things.
On a different note, I propose a caption contest for the picture of Yoda, prone on the floor with his cane several feet away. My entry is, "When nine-hundred years you reach, as many push-ups you will not be able to do."
Okay -- I don't have any special inside information or anything, but I have been watching the commentary on the new Star Wars DVDs this past week, and after looking at these pictures have some thoughts to share.
Many of these pictures look to be of the type that are taken for marketing purposes, and at least one of them looks to be unfinished. Take a look at the pictures of General Grevious (sp? -- the robot with the lightsabres). All computer generated of course, with what you'd expect a lightsabre to look like. Now take a look at the shot of Darth Sideous/Anakin, in particular their sabres. Note they are just coloured poles -- no "glow". It would appear that these photos haven't gone through post processing yet, as I can't imagine Lucasfilm's marketing department releasing them that way.
This is important, as it's a vector upon which Lucasfilm will probably focus to try to track the source of the leak. Expect someone to get sacked. Some of the photos are obviously unfinished, and it won't be hard to get a list of people who have access to the originals.
Now I'm going to hypothesize about a few things here which, if correct, may turn out to be spoilers. Or they might be worth less than the electrons used to transmit this message. You've been warned. If you don't want to risk potentially reading about something that happens in the film, stop reading here.
With that out of the way, the other photos I find interesting are the ones of the Emperor in the background with Anakin and Darth Tyrannus in a lightsabre duel. It appears to be shades of Eps 6 (Return of the Jedi), with Luke facing off against Vader. In this case, however, I'm presuming that Anakin wins (looking at one photo, apparently by cutting off both Tyrannus' hands, again much like Eps. 6). Thus, it appears to be somewhat of a redux of Return of the Jedi, but with the difference that where Luke wouldn't turn towards the dark side, Anakin (obviously) did.
Which brings up a few interesting questions. Apparently Lucas is going with the whole concept that there can never be any more than two Sith at any given time -- a student and a master. And that as the student gets older, Sideous/Palpatine gets an up-and-coming Jedi to kill them off for him, becoming the new "student" in the process. This could put the whole duel in ROTJ in a new light.
It also adds some new evidence to something I've long wondered about in the prequels, having to do with Anakin being the one prophisized to "bring balance to the Force". Qui-gon, Yoda, and the other Jedi appear to have made the assumption that this can only be a positive thing. However, look at those who are the masters of the Force. There are at least a dozen (or more) Jedi, but only ever two Sith at any given time. If the Force is out of balance, it would appear to be in favour of the "light" side, in which case the imbalance is a good thing. To bring balance to the Force could entail equalizing those who are its masters. If Anakin kills Tyrannus, that leaves two Sith. And from the original trilogy, we know after Eps 3 there are only two Jedi left (Obi-wan and Yoda). Perfectly balanced.
It's good to see Kit Fisto makes another showing, at least :).
Yaz.
I have virtually no interest in science fiction or star wars or any of that cruft. I thought the first two movies (Phantom Menace? and Attack of the Clones? I think?) were okay... mediocre.
I saw the sneak preview trailer for the third movie when my gf and I were watching Meet The Fockers (great movie). The sneak preview for the third movie looked pretty damn cool, and I must say got me eager to want to see it.
Looks like a lot of cool plot unfoldings and lots of action. I remember seeing the preview trailers for the other movies and they didn't really do much for me. Here's hoping that Lucas or whoever's making them now, finally listened to the people and went back to the drawing board to develop something decent, so it doesn't turn into a mediocre Matrix trilogy flop.
Too bad they didn't get the LOTR guy to make these three movies.
http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/general grievous/
Now, that's a bad guy with an attitude !
If Peter Jackson had done the Prequels..
Han: We have to get to the death star to destroy the evil empire
Luke: Oh Han, I'm so happy we're together. I Love you!
Han: I love you too, Luke. Let's embrace and hold eachother a bit too long to be straight
Luke: Allright! As long as we're together, we can do anything!
Vader: I will kill you all!
Obiwan: So much death!
argh... continue, I cannot..
"Correct you were, Obi Wan; much improvement Anakin's piloting needs. Tell me, my kidneys around here have you seen ?"
//Information does not want to be free; it wants to breed.
That has just summed up what I think about episodes 1 and 2.
We were kids when we watched the original Star Wars episodes. We didn't expect much of a movie, and the bad animations and bad acting were not problems then. In ep. 1, we have great CG graphics and all the bad acting, but now it seems to bother us. Guess what, we're grown ups now.
I, too watched Episode 1 with my 2 nephews (5 and 6 yo at the time), and they thought it was awesome too.
People just seem to take bashing at Lucas as a sport. He did episodes 4-6 for money too, didn't he?
Look, my view of Star-Wars is that its really cool and I enjoyed every single movie, probably because i'm not such a die-hard fan. I got angry about the Han shooting second thing only because everybody else did. That said, the most die hard fan to the most passive fan will go see this movie, theres no stopping it. Its like gasoline. We hate to pay for it, know its a waste of money, but we neeed it.
Neil is that you? Yeah yeah, it's me... Neil...
Yeah, but as the saying goes
"...Let the Wookie win"
I don't fault the actors for their performances in the new trilogy, except perhaps Hayden Christianson. It was truly disheartening to watch the valiant effort made by Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor to bring some life to a truly abysmal script, only to be deliberately upstaged at every turn by a megalomaniac director and his hideous cgi.
http://www.encyclopedia-online.info/Canary_trap
The surprise isn't how often we make bad choices; the surprise is how seldom they defeat us.
OK, so how did Sidious, Maul, and Tyrannus all exist at the same time? And frankly, calling yourself a "Lord" when there are only 2 of you reminds me a lot of Calvin declaring himself Supreme Dictator for Life.
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I use friend/foe to signal strong [dis]agreement instead of mod points. What else are f/f good for?