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Apple Nixes Live Webcast, Satellite Feed

spamguy writes "MacInTouch reports that Steve Jobs' January 11th MacWorld Expo keynote address may not be broadcast live in any way. If you were hoping to watch Stevie present the rumoured sub-$500 Mac, the Motorola phone, the Flash iPod, and/or the office suite, you now have no choice but to buy your plane tickets to San Francisco ASAP."

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  1. Re:Apple: Always thinking by Albinofrenchy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://www.microsoft.com/athome/ces2005/default.ms px
    Yesterday, I swear to God, it said "The video will be available shortly."
    I can't really blame them, but I really wanted to see it.

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  2. Well... by JavaMoose · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Hopefully some of the more adept Apple users will figure out a way to stream this.

    I mean, shit, this is pratically begging for someone to use their Powerbook and iSight to do this.

  3. Re:Apple products are a huge nonevent by vonFinkelstien · · Score: 3, Interesting
    And most of all, their treatment of people who dare take them to task for faulty hardware is horrendous (remember the dead battery fiasco?).

    Like how Apple paid for the shipping and repair of my iBook with a faulty logic board free of charge although I didn't have AppleCare and my warranty was expired. And how they even sent of a loaner iBook (with a faster processor and more RAM) to use while they fixed it.

    Apple takes care of its customers better than most other computer companies.

  4. Re:Whaaa? by ivano · · Score: 5, Interesting
    well not to sound like a fanboy but Steve is a damn good speaker/presenter. he doesn't behave like a monkey to get people motivated. he doesn't "umm" and "ah" his way through it. He's cool and polished. And to be honest what's better than seeing a demo or the product itself than waiting for it to be "filterd" by the media. I want demos not snide comments by a 95% Windows dominated media (qv iPod-killer stories).

    Ciao

  5. revenge by geirtbr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    this is apple's revenge over the apple fanatics, after fan sites snitched details about the new upcoming product releases

  6. Get over it. by trudyscousin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can only guess that the reason the keynote isn't being transmitted is because of the recent lawsuits that have been flying in both directions of late. Not so much a reason, but perhaps it's Mr. Jobs' pique instead?

    Regardless, anything important enough that's announced, I can find out at the end of the day on Macintouch. It's not that important.

    Besides that, to paraphrase H.L. Mencken (sort of), one goes to MacWorld for many of the reasons one goes to the zoo. Except that there's a much better zoo in San Diego; maybe I'll do that instead while MacWorld's going on.

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  7. To big an audience? by CrackedButter · · Score: 4, Interesting


    From all accounts, there is huge interest in this macworld, its being hyped up and they might fear that the webcast cannot handle any sort of predicted load. Instead they will just release it later after all the fanfare and the need to watch it dies away. Just as everyone says, it'll be out on the net anyway moments after the annoucement.
    In any case I'll stay off the mac websites until its out for streaming, I want to be equally disappointed like I was last year when GarageBand was demoed for something like 2 hours with some no name artist looking interested. :)

    1. Re:To big an audience? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Well, I could understand if they expected problems with the webcasting due to a surge in people tuning in to watch it due to all the rumors and hype surrounding the event lately. However, that still doesn't explain why they would not transmit the event via satellite (which could even prevent the Apple Stores from presenting the event). You'd think that this event would be an opportunity to draw existing and potential customers into their stores (and maybe make some sales while they are there).

  8. ThinkSecret? by fisheye1969 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder if this is something to do with the ThinkSecret case? Maybe Steve is p!ssed off at everyone but those who can prove their "loyalty" by attending? Hmm, as much as I love my iBook, I think I'll just read the reports. Is Mr Jobs really that good a speaker? Am I missing on the reality distortion field here?

  9. Re:Blog by Threni · · Score: 2, Interesting

    > IIRC the wireless network in the keynote room is taken down for the duration of
    > the keynote (at least it was on previous occasions).

    How do they propose to prevent journalists/fans from simply using a digital camera to record it and them upload it shortly afterwards.

    My handy prediction - if a single thing goes wrong during his speech it'll be on the net the same day.

  10. Re:Apple products are a huge nonevent by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You were lucky. I sent in my PowerBook for repairs in the middle of this year. It took them a month to admit that they'd lost it, and another month to send me a replacement. For the last couple of weeks of being without, they sent me a loan unit which was inferior to mine and defective (screen had an intermittent fault, airport card wouldn't get a DHCP lease). The unit they replaced it with initially came with the wrong RAM configuration, and had the same fault I'd originally sent mine in to have fixed. And I had paid for Apple `Care'. It took several hours on the telephone to customer support and numerous emails to get them to even admit that they'd lost the unit (actually, they admitted it a few times, but didn't do anything about it, and had forgotten by my next call).

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  11. Re:Apple products are a huge nonevent by Reverant · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't think so. About a year ago, I purchased a 17" 1.33GHz PowerBook G4. It cost me about $3000. From almost day one, the machine would not resume from sleep, 1 out 2 times. I looked at the Apple Discussion Boards and found the problem listed there. It affects many, many users.

    Apple still hasn't admitted there is a problem, not to mention providing a fix.

    I gave up about 3 months ago and sold the damn thing.

  12. This really pisses me off by amichalo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Obviously not everyone can be at MacWorld for teh Keynote(especailly now that Apple is only doing one a year on the West Coast).

    For a tech geek, watching Job's Keynote is a kin to watching some great sporting event live. Sure you can Tivo the Game and watch it later, but when you already read the score and heard about the surprise come back, watching it post-live is not the same.

    ATLEAST broadcast it in Apple stores - it is a freaking marketing event!!!

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  13. Re:Keynote Protest by NardofDoom · · Score: 2, Interesting
    What's wrong with these people? Don't they realize that Apple is a company? I love my Macs, and I like being part of the community, and I'll dispute FUD till the cows come home, but I have no expectation that Apple somehow owes me something because I've owned a Mac since 1997.

    What do they expect? Will they ask for receipts and give everyone who bought a Mac during the Amelio era a free iPod?

    Boo hoo, they cancelled the London Expo and don't release a version that spells color with a 'u.' I've *never* had a Mac Expo in my city. Do I get to protest, too? Disrupting a keynote at a major conference will just make them look like a bunch of asshats.

    If I were them I wouldn't worry about security throwing me out, I'd watch out for the people who have paid good money to see Jobs speak. Hell hath no fury like a Mac user who gets interrupted while drooling over new hardware.

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  14. Re:Apple: Always thinking by squiggleslash · · Score: 2, Interesting
    At some point, someone mod-bombed Alan Partridge and now his karma's shit.

    Do what I do, make him a friend (click on the little gray ball) and make sure your friends have at least a +2 bonus (see your preferences) and you'll see what he writes.

    Moderation unfortunately gets abused. Partridge made a few enemies, and that's what happens.

    FWIW, OS X has crashed on most of my systems regularly (though 10.2.8 is fairly good on my Beige G3, and 10.3.5 good on the B&W I'm using now), and XP has never crashed on my office PC. I think a lot of crashes today - Mac or PC - have to do with hardware quality, and despite the enthusiasts cries of the opposite, Apple is really no better or worse than anyone else. (When I've argued this before, the repost has tended to be "Yeah, but Macs come with better video cards" which is, I guess, "Quality" in one sense, but not the definition of quality in this context. Macs are Macs, they're built, for the most part, with commodity components as much as practically possible and in the same factories as the average PC, and Apple's care and control of the platform is offset by the fact competitors can pick and choose between different x86 motherboards on the basis of known quality.)

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  15. Gate's demo video for Internet2 users by FastDownload · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you are on Internet2 (or another fast research network), you can get the video at speeds up to 80 Mbps here which requires Java Web Start to download the LoDN client. If you have a set of LoRS Tools, then you can get the exNode at 2005_0105_ms_ces_300agility.wmv.xnd.

    On high-speed networks, set threads to 10 and blocksize to 1 MB. On cable/dsl (you are going to try it even though you are not on Internet2, aren't you), use 3 threads and a blocksize of 512KB. Dial-up users should just click on the link in the above post.

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  16. I think it makes sense....a twisted sense! by rspress · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have been saying for months now that Apple is going to fool everyone and announce that 10.4 tiger will ship at Macworld expo. I think they will announce that Tiger will ship by the end of January and they pre-orders start the day of the expo. If this does happen it will be one secret that Apple has kept under raps and that no one....besides me....expects.

    This maybe the reason for the blackout. Although the blackout does not make a whole lot of sense....There will be plenty of Mac news sites that broadcast up to the minute text based websites of the keynote events. So Apple will only be able to keep a lid on the keynote on the visual side of things. Even though I managed to snag some free tickets to the expo this year I don't think I will be able to attend because of my back injury. I have not been able to attend for 5 years now because of it.

  17. Re:Apple: Always thinking by Lehk228 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    honestly I think KArma should be a rolling score based on all of your post's moderaiton, but heavily weighted to the most recent 3 weeks, 66% last three weeks, 66% of the remaining section being the 6 weeks before that, 66% of what remains to the 12 weeks before that. A troll would be punished but someone who got fucked over by a mod bomb or a reformed troll can still get excellent karma wihout requiring excessive work, just a genuine desire to post real and contributing content. oh and any week in which there were no posts does not count in the weekly back counting that way trolls couldn't set up mule accounts that would rotate to only need +2 or so to cancel out a bunch of -1's

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  18. Re:Apple: Always thinking by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My solution is to take away five karma points if you negatively moderate. It would keep capricious negative moderation to a minimum.

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  19. Re:This is the problem... by soft_guy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    After the Newton was canceled, Apple held a conference call for Newton developers to explain their decision. I was on the call and I got to ask the first question. The argument at the time was that Apple needed to put all of its OS development resources behind the Mac (i.e. what would become OS X). Unlike the iPod, the Newton is a real platform. It required a very large R&D budget to sustain it. For example, they had to have people to document OS APIs and publish developer documentation and support developers and continually reinvest in both hardware and software technology. The fact that they slightly exceeded their burn rate in one quarter with the pent up demand for the Newton 2000 and eMate does not make up for the billions Apple spent developing the Newton.

    Also, when the Newton spin out was canceled, Palm and Microsoft raided the Newton group for employees. By the time that Jobs made the decision to kill the Newton, there was no one left at Apple who even knew where to find a copy of the source code for major pieces of the Newton OS.

    I loved the Newton, too. But, I can in retrospect understand Apple's decision. Could they have executed it better - absolutely. They might have been able to sell off Newton, Inc. without canceling the spin off.

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  20. The thing that bugs me the most by IAmATuringMachine! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The thing that bugs me the most is that the rumor sites like Think Secret have people who will report from within the convention center. Given that there will be no stream, the rumor sites will be the only game in town, and in fact, be rewarded for the mass inconvenience they caused for everyone else.

    I think that if Think Secret is ultimately responsible for this buy posting illegally obtained information (generally, there is a difference between protecting sources because of fear of physical retribution and protecting sources because they are obviously breaking the law), then TS should be punished. Like, advertisers should realize the kind of scum they are and pull their ads from the site. Sort of like how Bill Maher's show was cancelled at the peak of its ratings because the ads pulled out...

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  21. It's not "Public" by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Our Apple account executive has gone up to the executive level at Apple, and confirmed there will NOT be satellite downlink for non-Apple-corporate sites

    The beauty of satellites is that they're hard to beam into corporate sites. Unless they're doing a digital encrypted stream ($$$) if you find the right bird you'll get to see it.

    I can search all of the transponders on the C-band birds I can see in about 15 minutes. They're typically on the air about that long before the keynote and then Steve comes out 15-20 minutes late so there should be plenty of time.

    A distributed search with an IRC channel would take about 2 minutes. :)

    The best explaination I've heard is they intend to filter audience reaction before posting it. There will be a site somewhere with side-by-side audio tracks, I'm sure.

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