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Belkin Offering Pre-802.11N Products

redshield3 writes "Belkin is offering what it is calling "pre-802.11n" products for mass consumers now. CompUSA is reportedly carrying these items in stores. They claim 800% range improvement over 802.11g as well as full backwards compatibility and the ability to continue pushing out n-speeds when a 802.11g or 802.11b device is introduced to the network."

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  1. Pre? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Surely that makes it 802.11M?

  2. My Clients don't complain about speed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful


    however wifi range is a constant headache for me

  3. Fry's Electronics by azadam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I saw one of these on the shelf the other day. The price wasn't much higher than for 802.11g options.... my biggest question would be whether a firmware upgrade would necessarily be able to bring these into full 802.11n compatibility once the standard is ratified?

    It would suck to end up locked into a dead-end solution like that, but if it can be patched to become standard.... I might think about trying it out.

    1. Re:Fry's Electronics by kanweg · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, it seems to work for 802.11g now, which will continue to work once 802.11n is ratified. So, if it isn't much more expensive, you haven't lost much, do you?

      Bert

  4. Old News by beaverbrother · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is not new news, they were advertising them in november.

  5. I spy... by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...another wireless standard significantly harmed by not-quite interoperable implimentations produced by ass-hat vendors.

    --
    Beep beep.
  6. Linux by maeka · · Score: 4, Interesting
  7. Re:I dont understand by Jozer99 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Because 802.11n is not ratified yet, and will almost definitely change from the draft it is now. What Belkin has done was intergrate some of the proposed improvements that we can expect. However, they may not be in final form, so if the draft changes much, the products will no longer be compatable. This may be as easy to fix as a firmware update or driver download, or it may leave you with a bunch of equiptment that is not compatable with anything else. Also, I am not sure of this, but if 802.11n is already considered a standard, even an unratified one, then Belkin could get sued for using the name if their products do no conform to the final standard.

  8. Re:yeah, so why'd they skip all the way N by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just like IPv5, a lot of proposed standards get shelved for all kinds of reasons. Even though 802.11h never made it to production, the proposal still exists somewhere and naming something else 802.11h would be very confusing to the people involved. Usually we have catchy marketing terms insulating consumers from the technical versioning, but not in this case.

    After 802.11z comes 802.11aa. Other parts of the 802 standard go into the double letters.

    -B

  9. Re:Stuck at Pre-N by eggboard · · Score: 4, Informative

    When 802.11n is ratified possibly as late as Nov. 2006, it will likely include speeds at least twice as high as the Belkin product. There are a few different MIMO proposals under consideration, and they will likely be merged with faster speeds and options as optional and a lower speed and tech as mandatory.

    But the problem with Belkin and other MIMO solutions is that even if they turn out to be fully 802.11n compatible, they won't do the highest possible speeds. Those highest speeds will likely not cost any more (and maybe less) than the pre-N/MIMO stuff costs today.

    So EVEN if you'll be able to upgrade MIMO now to 802.11n in 2006--and that's a huge if and no companies are promising this even in the slighest--you won't get the real speed bump that 802.11n promises.

    If you don't need 50 to 70 Mbps of real throughput on your network today, stick with cheap, interoperable 802.11g.

    --
    Freelance tech journalist for the Economist, MIT Technology Review, Macworld, and others
  10. Remember Belkin's popups? by havaloc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Remember, this is the same Belkin which randomly tried to sell you Censorware.

  11. Re:Real-world speed, though by div_2n · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google "pre-n review" and you get

    Belkin Wireless Pre-N Router

    From this link:

    we measured throughput of 40.7 Mbps at 60 feet from the router (where 802.11g products typically deliver 15 Mbps)

    So at 60 feet, they were getting 40.7 full duplexed, 81.4 half. Considering wireless overhead that must be involved, that isn't bad throughput.

    What is most interesting is that the throughput at 1 foot from the router was actually less than at 60 feet by over 20 Mbps.

  12. More free internet! by Sax+Maniac · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I can't wait.

    My niece was visiting, and for whatever stupid reason, her middle school requires everyone have a laptop. (Insert rant about kids and computers here; apparently, using IM to chat about cute boyz is a new class they didn't have when I was in school. But I digreess.)

    I like to offer my net connection to guests so they can chat on vacation. So I point her to the nearest wall socket and ask if she needs a cable.

    "No, I'm just using the wireless connection. There's like 2 or 3 of them."

    Of course, at the time, I didn't have a wireless connection. But a few of my neighbors do: LINKSYS, LINKSYS, and, uh, LINKSYS.

    So, I'm all for more range. More free net access! And, this means I don't have to let anyone's spyware-ridden box on my home network when they visit.

    --
    I can explanate how to administrate your network. You must configurate and segmentate it, so it can computate.
  13. BZZZZTTTTT! by Sai+Babu · · Score: 4, Informative



    How many read this and said, WOW, I can go a km instead of this lousy 125m range I've got now?

    Visiting the parent referenced product description we learn that the statement, "They claim 800% range improvement over 802.11g" is
    UNTRUE!

    What they claim is 800% coverage improvement over 802.11g.

    The most gross correction comes if you note:
    The volume, or coverage, in which the thing will operate may be 800% greater, but volume goes as a cube of length (distance, range, radius, depending on contextual semantics). So your 800% coverage improvement translates to a 200% range increase.

    Add to this the myriad of devilish details which arise in any product comparison and the real world reange increase may be well less than times two.