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ExpressCards, the new PCMCIA?

randallpowell writes "PC Cards will face competition from ExpressCards in 2005 and 2006. Newer notebook PCs will have them to add wireless, HD-TV broadcast viewing, back-up storage, and more. Microsoft, Dell, and Intel are the major backers of this new expansion slot technology. While smaller, they can easily help users expand their notebook's abilities while PC Cards slowly phase out."

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  1. But I already have an express card by Timesprout · · Score: 3, Funny

    In fact I never leave home without it but it fuxored my laptop when I inserted it.

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  2. I don't get it by dsginter · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is the goal of everything to eventually become a choking hazzard? What was wrong with the old PCMCIA infrastructure? Why not just add some additional bandwidth and be done with it?

    What we need is a good upgradeable PCI standard for desktops so that people can slide their cards in without opening the case. *That* would be innovative...

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    1. Re:I don't get it by Figaro · · Score: 4, Informative

      I know this is unrealistic, but if you'd read the article you would have found out that this is an extension of PCI Express and PC manufacturers would like to extend this to Desktop PC's.

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  3. I hope they use dongles! by potus98 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oooooh ooooh! I hope the figure out a way to use easy-to-break and impossible-to-find vendor-proprietary dongles for all my connections! That would be awesome!

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    1. Re:I hope they use dongles! by dasunt · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't see why they couldn't have the new standard be twice the height of the current PCMCIA cards, but only half the width.

      That's large enough for one of the following, flush with the end of the card:

      • RJ-45 jack
      • RJ-11 jack
      • 2 USB ports
      • Firewire port
      • 3 mini-audio jacks

      Under this scheme, dongles wouldn't be needed for the most common cards. There would be no protruding connection so that the laptop would fit without any problems in its carrying case. 2 slot machines could be arranged side to side, allowing "double-width" cards to be used for more room.

  4. Re:USB? by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes just because carrying a lot of additional USB equipment and cables get bothersome. The problem with PCMCIA cards is the fact that laptops are getting thinner and thiner and a laptop that has enough space to hold 2 PCMCIA cards are considered bulky monsters. Besides these cards are used for high bandwidth stuff. But the point of all cards is for them to be outdated and get embedded in the motherboard at some point. remember the PCMCIA eathernet cards with those dongles that break every 5 minutes?

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  5. Photos and more info by waynegoode · · Score: 4, Informative
  6. This isn't PCMCIA! by technos · · Score: 4, Informative

    This isn't PCMCIA-like at all. This is not a new bus. This is just a new standardization for how to connect to the existing PCI-E/USB busses, and a standard on card size! Think of it like hot-swap PCI for laptops.

    Say you make a ExpressCard 56K modem. It will appear to the system as a USB device. All the card is doing is using the four pins of the slot that connect to the USB controller. The manufacturer will probably reuse 99% of the code from the USB version.

    Say you make a ExpressCard video adaptor. Well, here it uses the couple dozen pins in the slot that connect more or less directly to the PCI-E bus. The manufacturer will probably reuse 95% of the code from the PCI-E version of the adaptor.

    Beyond support for hot swap, the Linux kernel folks will have to make few changes.

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  7. But will it be a PCI killer? by strredwolf · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wait... we have a 10 Mhz 16-bit PC Card Services bus, a faster, 32 bit CardBus, and what's this now?

    Let's pull the white paper.

    First, it's 1 PCI Express lane (2.5 Gigabit) plus USB 2.0 (480+ Mbit) in about 20 pins. USB already is installed on laptops -- this is just another form factor for it. I'll ignore it and concentrate on PCI Express.

    Now what are we using that requires that much bandwidth? All together now: Uncompressed video and Gigabit Ethernet.

    I think we'll have alot of high-end laptops in 2005 have this, the ones who need to muck with video on the go.

    A side note: Currently mainstream PCI is a 32-bit bus at 33 Mhz (Although we can double the size and the speed, it's allowed in the spec). That's about 132 Megabytes per sec, or 1.056 Gigabit. Five channel, 48Hz 16-bit audio is about 480 Kbyte/s. 1 Gigabit Ethernet would flood a PCI bus -- but current speeds comming out of Cable, DSL, and Fiber To the House are sub-10baseT speeds.

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  8. Re:Upside For Users by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 3, Informative
    Another thought. Why not simply use Compact Flash type 2? Allthough there isn't really enough info in the article to compare them..

    That's PCMCIA technology, not even Cardbus. Too slow for what they are targeting. They want a videocard on one of these, and CF is limited to, max, about 12MB/sec. And CF has to tolerate much slower speeds, like on a 33MHz PDA.

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