Posted by
timothy
on from the absence-of-evidence dept.
An anonymous reader writes "Severalnewsoutlets are reporting that the United States has officially ended the The Iraq Survey Group's search for WMDs. Prior to the war, WMDs were named as a justification for a 'preemptive' invasion."
That's what you get when you vote for a puppet in the White House.
That and that you, the people, just couldn't make up you mind.
Re:Heil Hitler!
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spacecowboy420
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Not anti-Semitic jackass, anti-Zionist. If you listen to Air America radio or other progressive programs, some of the main speakers are Jews. They can't stand the Bush/Sharon policies as well. As an aside, there is a large group of Jews in Israel that can't stand the Zionist policies either. These policies are of the "right", not the Jews.
Understand; not anti-Semitic, but anti-religious crusade - whichever religious agenda, it's wrong to push it on other people. If you know ANYTHING about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, you know it is pure and simple religious fanaticism. Zionist think the land is bestowed to them by God and will kill all that oppose - in the name of God. Those that stand up to them are "Terrorists".
-- ymmv
Re:Well DUH!
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ArsonSmith
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Not only chearleaders man, they made them eat PORK!!!! let me say again PORK!!!!! I mean my god the humanity.
Some even claim to have been forced to drink alcohol!!! Ohh how my heart bleeds for these poor represed people.
What's a little gas chamber when compared to a few stips of bacon and a beer.
-- Paying taxes to buy civilization is like paying a hooker to buy love.
The war was unjustified. Bush's actions to invade Iraq appeared sound at the time (that's why we went in), but all the premises were flawed -- the reasons given, we realize, are not valid.
While I don't excuse Bush's actions, neither was this his own fault. The entire government system failed us twice: in lacking accurate intelligence to save the WTC, and in lacking accurate intelligence to save Iraq.
Yet I supported Bush's reelection (well, second to Badnarik of course, but he had no chance). Kerry would have either pulled us out of Iraq, which would be the wrong course, or remained in Iraq, which Bush would've done more effectively. (On domestic policy I agree slightly more with Bush, so if the two were equal, I would've sided with Bush.)
You might argue that admitting our mistake and pulling out would've saved the remnants of our reputation and recovered some goodwill. I claim that this would've been at the expense of the current pseudo-stability in Iraq. Once we invaded, unless we have US-run free elections (LOL), some angry terrorist bent on justifiable revenge would've seized power. In the interest of my personal safety, I prefer a US regime in Iraq to a regime angry at the US.
To reiterate: yes, Bush was wrong. Yet his choices remain the least wrong of all the possible ones. America has only wrong moves ahead of it. We have been trying for years to make other countries fear us instead of love us, and if we abandon that policy, they will neither fear us nor like us. It's a wrong policy, but unfortunately, we have no other choice -- we have nobody brave enough to try to change it and risk not managing it.
One of the reasons people didn't like presidential candidate William Jennings Bryan in the early 1900s was that he was calling for freedom for the questionably-seized Philippines. After we had held the land for so many years, we couldn't just let it go -- and we couldn't have a president who practically would encourage the Filipinos to revolt.
Re:Well DUH!
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ArsonSmith
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Ohh yea, I forgot. Let's feed them to the gas chamber then.
-- Paying taxes to buy civilization is like paying a hooker to buy love.
Actually, if you've been following the news reports closely, WMD's were found and that's been totally downplayed by everyone.
Link 1 - http://middleeastreference.org.uk/ios030912.html This describes the UK's (not the USA's) dossier on IRAQ. They felt like he was working on a nuclear program, which we now know to be the case, in mobile units, which are most likely no longer in Iraq.
http://osborn-scientific.com/PDF/Positive_test_f or _terror_toxins_in_Iraq.htm This link confirms that WMD's were being produced in Iraq.
This is what the BBC had to say http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/29022 59.stm
The French even thought that they had WMD's before we invaded.
I'm pretty ticked over all of this. After 9-11 happened, all these people sat around, whining and wringing their hands "Why didn't the government DO something?"
Now that something's being done, the same people are sitting around whining and wringing their hands "Why are we in Iraq?"
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That's what you get when you vote for a puppet in the White House. That and that you, the people, just couldn't make up you mind.
Not anti-Semitic jackass, anti-Zionist. If you listen to Air America radio or other progressive programs, some of the main speakers are Jews. They can't stand the Bush/Sharon policies as well. As an aside, there is a large group of Jews in Israel that can't stand the Zionist policies either. These policies are of the "right", not the Jews.
Understand; not anti-Semitic, but anti-religious crusade - whichever religious agenda, it's wrong to push it on other people. If you know ANYTHING about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, you know it is pure and simple religious fanaticism. Zionist think the land is bestowed to them by God and will kill all that oppose - in the name of God. Those that stand up to them are "Terrorists".
ymmv
Not only chearleaders man, they made them eat PORK!!!! let me say again PORK!!!!! I mean my god the humanity.
Some even claim to have been forced to drink alcohol!!! Ohh how my heart bleeds for these poor represed people.
What's a little gas chamber when compared to a few stips of bacon and a beer.
Paying taxes to buy civilization is like paying a hooker to buy love.
As a Bush supporter, I feel I should respond:
The war was unjustified. Bush's actions to invade Iraq appeared sound at the time (that's why we went in), but all the premises were flawed -- the reasons given, we realize, are not valid.
While I don't excuse Bush's actions, neither was this his own fault. The entire government system failed us twice: in lacking accurate intelligence to save the WTC, and in lacking accurate intelligence to save Iraq.
Yet I supported Bush's reelection (well, second to Badnarik of course, but he had no chance). Kerry would have either pulled us out of Iraq, which would be the wrong course, or remained in Iraq, which Bush would've done more effectively. (On domestic policy I agree slightly more with Bush, so if the two were equal, I would've sided with Bush.)
You might argue that admitting our mistake and pulling out would've saved the remnants of our reputation and recovered some goodwill. I claim that this would've been at the expense of the current pseudo-stability in Iraq. Once we invaded, unless we have US-run free elections (LOL), some angry terrorist bent on justifiable revenge would've seized power. In the interest of my personal safety, I prefer a US regime in Iraq to a regime angry at the US.
To reiterate: yes, Bush was wrong. Yet his choices remain the least wrong of all the possible ones. America has only wrong moves ahead of it. We have been trying for years to make other countries fear us instead of love us, and if we abandon that policy, they will neither fear us nor like us. It's a wrong policy, but unfortunately, we have no other choice -- we have nobody brave enough to try to change it and risk not managing it.
One of the reasons people didn't like presidential candidate William Jennings Bryan in the early 1900s was that he was calling for freedom for the questionably-seized Philippines. After we had held the land for so many years, we couldn't just let it go -- and we couldn't have a president who practically would encourage the Filipinos to revolt.
Ohh yea, I forgot. Let's feed them to the gas chamber then.
Paying taxes to buy civilization is like paying a hooker to buy love.
Actually, if you've been following the news reports closely, WMD's were found and that's been totally downplayed by everyone.
f or _terror_toxins_in_Iraq.htm
2 59.stm
Link 1 - http://middleeastreference.org.uk/ios030912.html
This describes the UK's (not the USA's) dossier on IRAQ. They felt like he was working on a nuclear program, which we now know to be the case, in mobile units, which are most likely no longer in Iraq.
http://osborn-scientific.com/PDF/Positive_test_
This link confirms that WMD's were being produced in Iraq.
This is what the BBC had to say http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2902
The French even thought that they had WMD's before we invaded.
I'm pretty ticked over all of this. After 9-11 happened, all these people sat around, whining and wringing their hands "Why didn't the government DO something?"
Now that something's being done, the same people are sitting around whining and wringing their hands "Why are we in Iraq?"
To which I reply - DUH!!!!!!!!!
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Queen B
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