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Google Announces 'Mini' Search Appliance

demetrio writes "In an effort to cater to small business search needs, Google has announced a new search appliance dubbed the 'Mini'. Priced at $5,000, well below the starting price of $32,000 for its other appliances, the 'Mini' should help smaller businesses leverage Google's search expertise at an affordable price."

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  1. Affordable ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    5 grand is not exactly afforable for most small businesses

    1. Re:Affordable ? by hethatishere · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's still a significant drop down from the previous search appliance that sells for over $30,000. I don't think it's significantly out of place for many small businesses. Heck, there are single-user workstations that are about that price. This could easily make it's initial cost back quickly in increased worker efficiency.

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    2. Re:Affordable ? by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For the business that requires one of these, $5k is quite affordable. If the business cant afford $5k, Id be quite happy to say they should reevaluate their need for one.

    3. Re:Affordable ? by lilmouse · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is quite affordable even for a company with 20 employees! $5k? A drop in the bucket, if you're shelling out an average of $80K for programmers annually.

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  2. Mini me? by Mathiasdm · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did the top guys at google just put their finger against their mouth and say: "I will call it... Mini Google!"

    Wait, that joke's been done already, about two days ago.

    Never mind!

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  3. Wow by krog · · Score: 4, Funny

    This puts it well within the reach of Slashdot.

    Never again will we have to use the crappiest search function ever! God be praised!

    1. Re:Wow by ari_j · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, Slashdot's search function is not the worst. There is a forum I frequent whose search page has essentially two fields: search text (titles only, not message bodies) and the username who posted.

      But the username is a drop-down box, and there are thousands upon thousands of users. It takes longer for your browser to download, parse, and render as a blank entry the thousands of entries in that drop-down box than it does to just go from page to page of the forum and use your browser's search feature to find the title of the thread you want, since that's all you can search for with the forum's function anyhow.

    2. Re:Wow by daeg · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, it must be planned after that pesky HTML update so Slashdot doesn't look like 1995.

    3. Re:Wow by zarr · · Score: 3, Interesting
      You just posted post number 11.349.404. This thing has a limit of 50.000 documents. Calculating the total price is left as an exersice for the reader. (Hint: NOT CHEAP!)

      Pluss, slashdot has about 800.000 registered users. Are we certain these boxes (meant for small to medium sized companies, remember) will handle the load?

  4. First the letter i, now this by jspoon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In '98, Apple introduced the iMac and we were deluged by thousands of products with an i (or some other arbitrary letter if the company wants to seem like rebels) dropped in front of some catchy word. We may just be coming out of that now, 7 years later. For the next 7 years, should we expect everything to be 'mini?'

    1. Re:First the letter i, now this by po_boy · · Score: 2, Funny

      At least it's not the Gmini.

    2. Re:First the letter i, now this by bigman2003 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes-

      Things like
      Mini-Cooper
      Mini-Skirt
      Mini-Me

      Thank god Apple was there to create this wonderful word. What would the rest of the world do without them?

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    3. Re:First the letter i, now this by Mr.+Bad+Example · · Score: 4, Funny

      > For the next 7 years, should we expect everything to be 'mini?'

      Unless you're my wife, yes.

  5. Ob. Johnny Carson by NardofDoom · · Score: 3, Funny
    /me holds envelope to head
    "Eleventy Billion Dollars"

    /me opens envelope
    "What will Apple's lawyers squeeze out of Google for trademark infringement.

    Ed McMahon: Hah hah hah! You are correct sir!

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  6. Meh. by NewOrleansNed · · Score: 3, Funny

    Search appliance? That's one freaking expensive flashlight.

  7. Re:Apple Mini? by millahtime · · Score: 3, Funny

    We will just have to wait and see. If it comes in a sleek package that's 6 1/2 inches by 2 inches then we will know.

  8. Slashdot could use one of these... by GillBates0 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Seriously....the current Search functionality on /. sucks big time.

    I noticed a few days back (can't reproduce it) that the Search button was changed to "Google Search". I was disappointed, however, when I realized that it just searched Google for the term with an added "site: slashdot.org".

    Using "site:slashdot.org" with Google doesn't work too well, because for some reason Google seems to "age" older pages in it's index for sites like Slashdot, which are more dynamic, and which it presumably crawls more often (alongwith the other news sites).

    This aging mechanism (or whatever it is) means I can't go to Google and type in "GillBates0 site:slashdot.org" to get *all* of my past 739 comments (like subscribers can), even though they're archived and accessible from Slashdot.

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  9. Oh no....... by DisasterDoctor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    For the love of God, lets not start naming everything 'mini'. We have just finally broke the 'e'-naming habit.

  10. Re:so by def · · Score: 4, Informative

    Pagerank isn't secret, its patented.

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  11. Integrate with Samba's smbclient? by mralert · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The documents crawled have to be web-accessible (http or https) according to the product description. This suprises me as the vast amount of company documents are probably on Windows file servers.

    Why not hook up with the Samba team to enable crawling on Windows shares? I think Samba-integration would be a killer feature for a product like this.

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  12. Perfect. by bs_02_06_02 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a good idea at a good price, and I think it'll do well.

    I see someone has already complained about the price for small biz. Frankly, I'd challenge you to find someone to set up a search website, buy hardware, and administer it for a year for under $5000. And, provide an interface that's friendly, and search results that are useful?

    To me, $5000 seems kinda cheap. Especially if it works and I don't have to hire some really expensive consultant to run it on a fulltime basis.

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  13. Somewhat OT by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is it just me, or has "mini" taken over as the new "e" in marketing. The Mini Cooper. The iPod Mini. The Apple Mini. Google Mini. Even Disney has jumped on the bandwagon with Mini Mouse! Where will it stop? Duke Nukem Mini?

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  14. Innovative? by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Google is recognized as the global leader in innovative search technology.

    Too bad it still can't handle mailing list archives worth a damn. Search for Linux and Blender, and you'll get an email about Blender with the word "Linux" in one of the "Next by [thread] [author] [date]" links. Useless.

    Too bad they're regularly taken to task by "optimization" companies (have been for years). Thanks- I'll pick Teoma as my "most innovative" search engine.

    I flat-out laughed when Page said this during their ABC News People of the Year interview:

    "We have kind of a mantra of 'don't be evil,' which is to do the best things that we know how for our users, for our customers and for everyone. So, if we were known for that, it would be a wonderful thing."

    Hmm, Mr. Page- is bowing to (oops, I mean, fully cooperating with) Chinese censorship, in the names of market share, "evil"? Is it "best for everyone"?

  15. Re:Onl 50,000 documents for $5,000? by MrP-(at+work) · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you read the /. Blurb, or the article, or the homepage for the product, you'll see its not targeted at large corperations, this is for small/medium buisness owners.

    For large corperations, you can purchase the The Google Search Appliance , which can index 15 million documents

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  16. Re:Just use Site Search? by grub · · Score: 2, Informative


    If your intranet has proprietary or secret information you wouldn't want to open it up to google's internet search. Why let your competition search your online info? You wouldn't give them access to your filing cabinets.

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  17. Re:Too small by Walkiry · · Score: 3, Funny

    > 50k docs is too small for pretty much everyone ...

    Yes, but 640k docs should be enough for everyone...

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  18. Cheap by Boronx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's no more than you'd pay for filing clerk to work 2 months.

  19. Is Google moving out of their strength? by Sialagogue · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've been testing Google Desktop Search for a while now, and I'm wondering whether Google's need to expand (like so many companies before them) could be the beginning of a slippery slide downward. The cynical answer in general terms is certainly yes, but I'm thinking of one specific point here...

    I'll guess that most people fell in love with Google the search engine, and then Google the brand, for its Internet search performance - its results felt more intuitive, more in line with what I was really looking for, like it knew my intent.

    Those search results were based in its then new and unique Pagerank algorithm -- ranking pages based on the weight of other pages linking to them, essentially finding an efficient way of turning the inter-connectedness of web pages into a defacto recommendation system.

    But my experience with Desktop Search has be much different. Since no one is reading and then linking to files on my hard drive (although I run Windows XP, so who knows...) there is no oppotunity for a PageRank-type algorithm to do its work, and my feeling is that Desktop Search search results really suffer for it.

    It's like the worst of both worlds, without PageRank it's just a Google-branded keyword search, and worse, a keyword search tool that doesn't really have a sophisticated query language in order to construct more complex searches.

    My concern is that Google-the-functionality is getting slowly replaced with Google-the-brand, and that Google will simply become synonymous with "search" rather than "eerily great search."

    I'd be interested in other's people's experiences with their off-Internet search tools. I'm sure they are efficient and such, but do you get that same "I know what you're thinking" vibe as you do from Google Internet search?

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    1. Re:Is Google moving out of their strength? by bdbolton · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My experience has been very disappointing with the google desktop search. I saved some files for a computer network class. I search for "computer network doc" and it found some word docs but not a computer network document. The standard search functionality of windows xp is better than this.

      It turns out that once I did find them, two of the documents were called "computer_networks1.doc" and "computer_networks_may.doc". Now how much more obvious could that be? I wonder why google didn't find them?

      Its funny too because I tell this to people and they think Im lying because google is just infaluble or something....

      And lately even web results seem to be less accurate. Is this just me? I really hope to see some real innovation in the basic search soon.

      BTW, bring back the old google groups!

  20. Re:Is PageRank applicable? by ciroknight · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Question: Who said the box contained an active implementation of PageRank? I'm sure Google's capable of building several different searching algorithms and then having the OS of the machine or a daemon simply select the most effective search algorithm for the task, cache results, and optimise querys on the fly.. I'm sure PageRank is *one* of the abilities of this server, but it surely isn't the *only* or the *best*.

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  21. We have a GB-1001 by homeslice3 · · Score: 3, Informative

    We use it on our Intranet at a small goverment agency and it's made a huge difference for us - so I'm a big fan. It's easy to manage too.

    I'm not sure however, what niche this product is filling - the box we have allows us to have unlimited subcollections so all of our smaller units can setup their own searches very easily - we just pass which collection we want to hit, and then get some xml back from the box.

    So all of our little sub-offices and depts won't ever need their own box.

  22. wtf? by toocoolforschool · · Score: 3, Funny

    why would i want a search engine in my cooper?

  23. Re:MSN Toolbar by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2
    That's an apple to orange comparision. The MSN Toolbar and other toolbars are software solutions for personal use and not well suited for corporate use.

    The Google Mini and the Search Appliance search your corporate extranet and public websites for relevant information so that the whole company has access to the information.

    For example, if your company has a huge repository of corporate documents, then you can search the documents using a toolbar IF you have file permissions to the server, directory, and files. But that might take a long time. And your searches remain on your desktop. Someone searching for the same documents will have to initiate their own search. At the present time, I am not aware if you can share your search results with anyone.

    If your company uses a search appliance like Google's then searches are saved and indexed as if the user was searching the web. Also the users do not need to have direct access to the files.

    For some companies this doesn't make sense, but there is a need for it out there. One application I can think of is a law firm needing to do searches on their own case files.

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  24. Warning! by djward · · Score: 2, Funny

    2) Do not eat Google Mini.

  25. wakeup call by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Insightful
    If google didn't make a censored version, either people would be given a bubnch of dead links when they clicked on links to things that were censored,

    Maybe then they'd start asking questions. Instead, they're given a nice whitewash where nothing is out of place.

  26. Re:80K by pebs · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think he means 80K total for all programmers :)

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  27. Bet you could do it with this $2,500 software! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Northern Light Enterprise Search Engine (see http://northernlight.com/esevs.html)

    $2,500/year gets you a world-class search engine capable of searching up to 150,000 documents (more, if you go with a different license). Runs on a Linux box. Crawls not only web-crawable content, but ftp-accessible stuff and databases, too. I can and have customized it using perl. I love it.

    Dave Baker
    Using it at http://benefitslink.com/search/