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Opportunity Spots Curious Object On Mars

EhobaX writes "Space.com is reporting that NASA's Opportunity Mars rover has come across an interesting object -- perhaps a meteorite sitting out in the open at Meridiani Planum. Initial data taken by the robot's Mini-Thermal Emission Spectrometer (Mini-TES) is suggestive that the odd-looking "rock" is made of metal."

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  1. Beagle? by Allen+Zadr · · Score: 5, Funny

    So that is what happened to the Beagle lander! They finally found it.

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  2. Robot Bunny? by fembots · · Score: 5, Funny

    I still prefer a cute bunny over metal robot.

    To make a good sci-fi story though, Opportunity might have just reached its expiry date and that'll keep everybody in suspense for a long time.

    1. Re:Robot Bunny? by niktesla · · Score: 5, Funny
      send all our environmentalists to Mars to take care of it!

      Don't forget the telephone sanitizers, hairdressers, TV producers, and salespeople.

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    2. Re:Robot Bunny? by jfw25 · · Score: 3, Funny
      Things like rovers that stay in one place once they become refuse don't seem like much of a problem. Scraps of fabric blowing around in the martian wind seem a little more troublesome to me.
      It's OK, they already thought of that. The parachutes are bio-degradable.

      What?

      DOH!

  3. sounds familiar by PhilipOfOregon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wait -- I've seen this movie! DON'T GO LOOK AT IT!

  4. To boldy go... by cosinezero · · Score: 5, Funny

    If we tell GWB it's a WMD, maybe we'll finally get a real space program...

  5. finally by Dark+Demon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Jimmy Hoffa has been found...

  6. Illudium pew-36 explosive space modulator? by Alien+Being · · Score: 5, Funny

    Be careful with the abrasion tool or there could be an earth-shattering kaboom.

    1. Re:Illudium pew-36 explosive space modulator? by Moofie · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'd rather start a flamewar about your spelling of marshmallows.

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  7. Meteorite? by HeighYew · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would think that a meteorite would've been buried in the sand instead of sitting on top of it...

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    1. Re:Meteorite? by Stevyn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe it was. It could have come down very shallow and not made a deep impact. Then strong winds could have blown the sand around it to uncover it. If it is made of metal, then it's probably too heavy for the winds to move it much. The wavy patterns in the sand around it make me think the area gets some wind.

      I'm just guessing, of course, but it's a possibility.

  8. Finally, they found my pet rock. by LemonFire · · Score: 5, Funny

    I always wondered what happened to it.

    -- I discovered this SIG in the lost and found department.

  9. Meteorite with no crater? by schon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    OK, so speculation is that it's a meteorite - OK, but this was found on a large plain.. what are the odds that a meteor could hit a planet and not leave a crater? Wouldn't the gravity of Mars cause it to increase velocity?

    Anyone with more knowledge of meteor physics than me have an explanation?

    1. Re:Meteorite with no crater? by RobertB-DC · · Score: 3, Insightful

      OK, so speculation is that it's a meteorite - OK, but this was found on a large plain.. what are the odds that a meteor could hit a planet and not leave a crater? Wouldn't the gravity of Mars cause it to increase velocity?

      One scenario is that the rock hit Mars a gazillion years ago. Wind storms filled the area with Mars dust. Over the eons, the weather patterns changed, and now the wind storms are blowing the dust out of the area... uncovering the rock.

      Though the thing sure looks a lot like a dehydrated Martian to me. Just add water!

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    2. Re:Meteorite with no crater? by DrXym · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Maybe it hit water in some previous age and sunk to the bottom?

    3. Re:Meteorite with no crater? by david.given · · Score: 3, Informative
      Anyone with more knowledge of meteor physics than me have an explanation?

      Meteors don't work like that, basically. What happens is that anything moving above a certain speed gets vapourised; shooting stars are. If it's large enough that it doesn't vapourise completely, what's left hits the ground at kilometres per second and makes a hell of a bang.

      However, anything moving slowly gets slowed to a stop by the atmosphere, at which point it just falls.

      The net effect is that meteors hit the ground either at kilometres per second or about two or three hundred miles per hour, and nothing in between.

  10. Around the room reactions ... by WankersRevenge · · Score: 4, Funny

    Project leader Kenobi: it's not a rock. It's a space station

    Data Analyst Rimmer: Aliens!

    Computer Programmer Neo: Woaaah

  11. Obvious. by Aaron+England · · Score: 3, Funny

    Charateristic topology, metal composition, scorched surroundings; clearly Mars is giving birth.

  12. Monolith by vivin · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's the Monolith. Taa... taa... taaa...... TATAAAA!!!

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    1. Re:Monolith by maxbang · · Score: 4, Funny

      Currently at NASA HQ: "Hold on, we're getting something here. All...these...worlds...are...a...fanta...don't...y ou...wanta...fanta? Fanta? What the hell is this?"

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  13. That's not a rock... by Tebriel · · Score: 3, Funny

    it's a Starbucks. They really ARE everywhere.

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  14. Huh? by Richie1984 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I stress that this is very preliminary!

    Did this guy think that by saying that he would somehow prevent half of the internet preparing some crackpot theory within 5 seconds of reading it? :)

    Personally, I'll wait before jumping to conclusions, and look forward to reading the followup!

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  15. Re:A real mystery. by Rei · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is a big deal. You don't find raw metal much on Mars; most of it is tied up with oxygen. Raw metal has many implications: if it is common, it can be a great source of base building. If the metals are rare on Earth as well, and they're common on Mars, they could provide a potential export source. If it is a meteor, and they're common, it could affect our models of how often Mars gets struck by meteors. Since the rock isn't buried, it could provide clues as to how long it's been on Mars, how fast Meridiani Planum is eroding, and give us dataon how metals wear over time on Mars.

    Any time you find something you've never found before, it's a big deal. Honestly, to people who've been following the mission, it looked like Opportunity was pretty much wrapping things up. It just left a geological treasure trove and there isn't much more "on the map", so to speak. It's neat to see it continue making nice finds.

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  16. What was their first reaction? by RobertB-DC · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So the NASA team has been poking around the planet for more than a(n Earth) year, right? Most of the surprises happened months ago... now it's just a matter of finding something to do until the batteries quit holding their charge. Looking at the heat shield doesn't seem like a very revealing bit of science -- more of a "gee look how far we've come" sort of cool thing.

    Then they get a picture of a big freaking rock with a bunch of wierd holes, sitting there in the middle of a windblown plain. Not covered in dust like everything else... even the wind patterns in the dust around it look new.

    What do you think the first guy to get that picture said when he looked, and then looked again, and realized that this wasn't going to be just another day on Mars?

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    1. Re:What was their first reaction? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, the Heat Shield WAS important.

      Designing re-entry shields for planets you don't know alot about ( compared to earth ) can be tricky. Undoubtably they overengineered it, and made it heavier than needed just in case.

      By examining the heat shield, and the thermal damage, they can get a better feel for the physical and thermal stresses caused by a martian re entry.

      This would lead to lighter, better heat shields. And since cost is proportional to weight, a lighter more effective heat shield leads to cheaper future mars missions, or allows one to cram more instruments into a probe. Either way, WIN!

      They are tooling around a planet we still know little about, so it's all good.

    2. Re:What was their first reaction? by Vellmont · · Score: 3, Informative


      Looking at the heat shield doesn't seem like a very revealing bit of science -- more of a "gee look how far we've come" sort of cool thing.

      You're right, looking at the heat shield isn't about science, but it is about engineering. The heat shield can obviously never be adequately tested, and until you take a look at it you never know exactly how well it performed. Were there areas where it could have failed? Was is over-engineered? Those are usefull questions that if we had answers to we could design better/more efficient heat shielding in the future.

      The heat shield also digs into the surface far more than the rovers ever could, so you might see whats below the surface. Though looking at the heat shield sounds like a total geek thing to do, it can reveal a lot of non obvious information.

      At this point you're probbably right about finding something to do. In the area where the rovers have landed we've seen the everyday stuff, and now it's all about being lucky enough to see the more rare things.

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  17. Mini-TES by A+Boy+and+His+Blob · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those of you who don't know what TES (Thermal Emission Spectrometer) is, here is some more information. The webpage is quite interesting.

    1. Re:Mini-TES by rk · · Score: 4, Informative

      For clarity: That link is to TES, which flies on the Mars Global Surveyor. The instrument on the rovers is called Mini-TES and does similar things.

      I work at the lab responsible for both.

  18. Re:A real mystery. by Penguinshit · · Score: 3, Insightful


    The best part of the story is it seems that both the rovers will be continuing on for quite some time. Talk about a huge vat of gravy for this mission. It's really nice to see our taxpayer dollars repaid so handsomely.

    With the initial "water" find complete, these little critters are free to give us so much more information about Mars than we could have gotten with 50 Viking probes or any manner of orbiting system.

  19. Maybe it did leave a crater. by i41Overlord · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe the rock did leave a crater in the sand millions of years ago, and the crater got blown away by the wind, leaving the heavy rock sitting there.

    Things can sit on the surface forever there. It's not like there's anyone there to say "ooh, this is shiny!" and disturb it. That's a human thing... (although now that human scientists sent a rover to Mars, they're saying "ooh, that rock is shiny!" and disturbing it)

  20. Re:That's no rock... by rk · · Score: 5, Funny

    It could be a terrible miscalculation in scale. Good thing there are no small dogs on Mars.

  21. Re:Could it be the remains of predecessor or itsel by jdray · · Score: 4, Informative
    It could resaonably be an iron meteorite.

    "Iron meteorites", also called "irons", are usually just one big blob of iron-nickel (Fe-Ni) metal, as if it came from a industrial refinery without shaping. The alloy ranges from 5% to 62% nickel from meteorite to meteorite, with an average of 10% nickel. Cobalt averages about 0.5%, and other metals such as the platinum group metals, gallium, and germanium are dissolved in the Fe-Ni metal. (Fe is the chemical symbol for iron.) While most "irons" are pure or nearly pure metal, the technical definition of an "iron" includes metal meteorites with up to 30% mineral inclusions such as sulfides, metal oxides and silicates. The irons represent the cores of former planetoids.

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  22. Read the small print by ptomblin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This object is not very far from other debris from the re-entry. It could very well turn out to be a chunk of something that got a bit melty on the way in.

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  23. What? by Wrexen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Interesting find, but what's up with that caption?

  24. Vamp vs Machine by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's not that interesting looking - like most of the rest of Mars we've seen - except to planetologists. I find it interesting that the surface of Mars is so boring. That's because all the action is below the surface, where Mars is teeming with vampires . Once Opportunity takes the bait of probing that rock, setting off the alarms, the thin Martian air will be filled with flapping batwings. Our wisdom in sending a bloodless probe will pay off, as we'll have drawn them out into the rays of the sun, where our robot minions are a match for the weakened biters. I'll be playing the SOLASER across the face of the Red Planet this week, amplifying the beneficent rays of the Sun perhaps enough to make a difference. That is, if the vampire-controlled FAA doesn't stop me with their "laser-warning system" they've bankrolled on trumped-up terror propaganda.

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  25. NASA is really putting out lately... by Dejohn · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This is somewhat offtopic, but it seems that NASA is really getting a lot of good press for very interesting and successful projects. Good for them! Their public perception is really improving after those nasty probe failures on mars a while back.
    • Deep Impact launches to get data from a comet
    • BOTH Mars rover projects continue to be successful
    • Nasa nearing launch of shuttle again
    • Nasa planning Hubble robotic upgrade
    • Huygens "hours" from landing on Titan

    What a great time to be alive! I'm happy that my tax dollars are funding this stuff.
  26. It's a diversion by CmdrGravy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Look ! Look at the shiny rock. In the meantime the Martians will be sneaking away behind them.