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KDE 3.4 goes Beta
wikinerd writes "KDE 3.4 has reached its beta testing phase. The KDE 3.4beta1 is codenamed 'Krokodile' and pre-compiled packages are already available for Slackware, but if you need to compile it by yourself first check its compilation requirements."
Re: the KDE 3.4 Compilation Requirements...
I would categorize the X Render Extension as recommended as opposed to optional. Aren't anti-aliased fonts a basic feature of any modern desktop environment?
Kall me when there's a release kandidate.
I'm looking forward to giving 3.4 a try. Why? Because on my modest hardware it seems like Qt has gotten faster over the past 2 years while GTK2 has gotten slower.
Are there any screenshots of this? What does it look like? Is it pretty? Does it have new features both usably, and visually?
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It's not that bad on Gentoo. I mean, I have a mid-range P4 system that will spend roughly 6 hours compiling a full KDE install even with all the crap that I could forgo but don't bother to. As long as I'm not trying to play a 3D game or anything I can still get work done without any hassles. :)
Hey, I bet all the guys who have Athlon-64's will chime in now about how they get done compiling before they even have the packages downloaded
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just when you thought debian sarge was going to go stable some time this year...
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I'm actually most excited because this means that, in not too long, people will start really working on KDE 4.0. That's the release I want. 3.4 is a finalization of the 3's, really. It's got some nice cleanup of what's there and will run a little better, but almost all the features that were ever going into the 3's are already there.
But 4.0...oh, I can hardly wait...
Notice how the translations are larger than everything else combined ?
That I partially reflects the share number of languages available. It also shows how modular KDE's design is. I.e. You can strip out everything language dependent into a separate package without breaking the rest. (Yes, it compiles in English without the i18n package).
--= Isn't it surprising how badly I spell ?
I don't see a pro debian slant to that site, only poking fun at gentoo zealots. In my opinion, there are four types of linux users. Gentoo zealots, Debian zealots, Linux zealots, and everyone else. You are obviously a Gentoo zealot because Gentoo zealtots think everyone who isn't a Gentoo zealot is a Debian zealot, because in your world there is only source vs rpm.
Say what you want about KDE, but after playing with 3.3, I finally made the switch from GNOME to KDE. I especially like the level of integration in between apps, the transparency settings for menus and applications, and KDevelop. Gnome is awesome too, especially 2.8, but KDE just seems to have more polish to it.
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Debian's auto-release script is hard-wired to a Brownian Motion Vector Plotter and a realy hot cup of tea. The release after next will be out sometime last year.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
Oh okay, I gotcha. Sorry for the gentoo rant then.
They probably do it because the people using are testers and this way they can find more bugs.
I can start a compile of kdelibs, kdebase, kdenetwork, kdepim, kdegraphics, and kdeoffice, on my modest XP 1800, let it run overnight, and I have a new desktop in the morning.
It is called *multitasking*. You can do other things with the computer while it is compiling you know.
Yes, it has features and bugfixes. Oh, you wanted to know which ones!!! Well, why didn't you say so? I haven't the faintest.
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Don't download the pre-release marked "krakatoa"
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
I don't even want to know what Gentoo zealots things of Fedora and Mandrake users (by which I mean those us with better things to do than compile packages all day).
As a Gentoo user of nearly 3 years, I have no special thoughts about Debian, RedHat, Mandrake or other distro's users. I'm sure they are all fine people and enjoy their distributions just as much as I enjoy Gentoo.
If you mod me down, I *will* introduce you to my sister!
Well you see, that right there is what makes you NOT a Gentoo zealot. It relegates to the much more sensible ranks of fan, advocate, or promoter.
If this release is named "Krokodile", I think the default startup music should be "Schnappi!"
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
does anyone have any luck with autospellcheck (spellcheck as you type, red underlining of words if you make a spelling mistake) in kate? They were saying that this was going to be released in 3.2 but it doesnt seem to be there. bugs.kde.org has closed the wishlist/feature request ticket. I'm using 3.3.1 currently. The feature's there in konqueror, kmail and kword, but for us folks that use kile (which depends on kate) as the LaTeX source editor, we would sure find it a good feature to have.
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As a Gentoo user of nearly 3 years, I have no special thoughts about Debian, RedHat, Mandrake or other distro's users. I'm sure they are all fine people and enjoy their distributions just as much as I enjoy Gentoo.
I see that Gentoo zealots have moved to an entirely new level of rabid fanboyism. Recognizing that the blatant, in-your-face evangelism approach has done all it can, you're now starting down a new path, subtly working away at our resistance through calm, rational and even apparently tolerant discussion... all the better to enhance the shock effect of your next frontal assault.
But we're wise to you, oh, yes. The evil will not take our machines, sapping their cycles with endless compilation. We will hold our Debian swirls high and beat back the honeyed words just like the bombastic venom they so cleverly disguise.
Or maybe we'll just cave and buy a faster machine.
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Huh? I use KDE on FreeBSD, and I can unmount a USB drive in about a tenth of a second with one mouse click. Under Windows (XP) it usually takes me ten or more seconds and four mouse clicks. Sometimes, maybe one in twenty, it takes up to a couple of minutes to unmount with the entire system frozen in the meantime. And this is the system everyone says Unix should emulate? No fscking way!
p.s. DBUS may or may not be a good idea, I haven't looked into it closely. But I'm not expecting any performance increases from it, because that's not what it is. If you have problem with DCOP, then blame your distro for shoddy integration.
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
Qt4 is a really major change. It is most definitely non-trivial to port code to Qt4, even with the Qt3 compatiblity libraries.
As someone facing the need to port their code to Qt4 sometime in the coming year, I'm all too aware of this.
I wouldn't expect a Qt4 based KDE in any hurry. Even if they're already porting to the Qt4 beta, I expect it'll take them a fair darn while even after Qt4 stable comes out before they can put together a Qt4 desktop. Even then, I'll be surprised if some apps don't continue to use Qt3 for a while after that.
The really impressive translation magic is in Qt's i18n tools ( QObject::tr(), lupdate, lrelease, etc). It "just works" - you code your app in English, but mark strings as translatable and translators can translate your app using external files generated from the source that can be distributed separately.
It's fantastic.
Sure, there's more work involved in making external resources like HTML help translatable, but the real magic happens in Qt.