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New Yorker on Miyazaki
An anonymous reader writes "The New Yorker issue of 17 January has an in-depth article on Hayao Miyazaki. It gives a nice look at the arc of his work, short interviews with him, and more extended interviews with his co-workers. Here is an interview with the article's author."
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1st post?
This is what I am
I can't make it stop
No matter how much I wanna change
I can't make it go away
For those of you who do not instantly associate that name with anything, a link.
Lurking at the bottom of the gravity well, getting old
His stuff's always been a bit too "warm and cuddly" for me, with the exception of Princess Mononoke. Still, it's nice to see some recognition being handed out in the field, and her certainly deserves it.
Fifth post?
It still amazes me that the whole comic book / manga artform is so well respected in Japan. I love Manga as much as the next guy but to see EVERYONE relating to it astonds me. Unless you visit Japan (as I have done twice now) you can't really fathom the impact that this artform has on Japanese culture. The people I spoke to in Japan about it think that what we consider Manga and the Manga we have access to in the west is pretty light weight.
So when do Disney hijack THIS and claim it as their own original work?
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
The New Yorker issue of 17 January has an in-depth article on Hayao Miyazaki.
Just drop a name and expect everyone to know who this guy is. Really great editorial skills, Michael. Would it have killed you to have put "animation artist" before his name? It would have stopped me from wasting my time finding that out on my own. Thanks a lot for your disservice, Michael, I see why everyone loves to hate you here.
What happened to my prefrence of excluding anime articles? It seems to have disapeared...
Slipping Away...
a good idea to include some info about who the heck this guy is?
I had to do a search. May I suggest that the editors/posters re-read their submission instructions?
In related news, Wilbert Rideau has been released.
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If you like Miyazaki and are around Paris, you might want ot check out the exposition at the museum de la Monnaie (right in front of Pont Neuf). I went there yesterday and it is quite interesting: it is centered around a comparison of Miyazaki's work and Moebius' work (one of the best french cartoonist). The most interesting stuff to me was a cross-interview of Moebius and Miyazaki, good stuff. They also show other two documentaries on their respective work, but I don't know if it is worth it for 9 euros.
american-redcross.org is a SCAM SITE masquerading as the American Red Cross (real site: www.redcross.org. Different IP block, registered to "lovelele25@yahoo.com", registered JUST TODAY at 15-Jan-2005 21:17:18 UTC. Front page is a credit card donation form. (Compare and contrast: the REAL American Red Cross site.
Let's take these fuckers down before they can steal thousands of dollars from innocent people and steal their credit card data.
Note that the Verisign link goes to the verification for WWW.REDCROSS.ORG, the real site (not for www.AMERICAN-redcross.org, the scammers).
Honey, I shrunk the Cygwin
the scam site is hotlinking to images from the real redcross site. ..or goatse
we should tell redcross to replace those images with a notice about the scam site.
either way
If the editor wrote Linus Torvalds, every computer geek would know it was the founder of Linux. If the editor wrote Hawking, every science geek would know who he was. If the editor wrote John Carmack, every developer would know who he was. Hayao Miyazaki is no different for animae. He is arguably the greatest animation director of all time. If you don't know his name, you definately aren't an animae geek. But considering that there have been many articles here on Slashdot, you would figure that his name would be in the collective knowlege bank. At what point do the Slashdot editors have to stop prefixing an article "Programmer Linus Torvalds ..." or "Cosmologist Stephen Hawking ..."?
And guess what... their registrar is MelbourneIT. Hmmm, now where have I heard that name recently?
A long time now I have been a fan of Hayao Miyazaki. I find his movies strangely unique, and moving. In fact, I would call them more of an experience. Especially with his latest masterpiece Sen To Chihiro(Spirited away.)
this man really knows how to take you into a world of awe and amazement. He can take you to world filled with ancient gods, and mysterious magic, or to the skies and ancient forgotten cities who's only surving inhabitans are it's gargantuan robot caretakers.
I would have to say I dislike this being classified as Anime though, as while it is Japanese, it is nothing like any other Japanese animation. These are truly works that will outlive Miyazaki to become classics, and his own name will outlive him to become legend.
I highly reccomend this mans works to everyone here, even if you dislike anime, you may be pleasently surprised by the experience.
Go ahead and call me unreliable; reliable is just a synonym for predictable.
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Why, let's just click on their link and see if they have as much bandwidth as the real Red Cross :-)
They are also hosted on yahoo/geocities.
Report them here:
http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/geo/cgi_abuse
In America we are imprisoned by our fear of them.
Whois info:
Admin ID:C110581683433396
Admin Name:Elizabeth Cantrell
Admin Organization:Elizabeth Cantrell
Admin Street1:409 Pleasant Road
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Dothan
Admin State/Province:AL
Admin Postal Code:36301
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.3347939768
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:lovelele25@yahoo.com
heh, phone number is busy...
Slipping Away...
Or if you really want to fuck them: here or here.
JessLeah,
Submit the info and see if we can get it on the front page. This is an important issue and perhaps Slashdot can help resolve it. Alot of people who have the power or know people who have the power to take care of this read slashdot. If its on the front page it won't be ignored.
I have their page loaded with images turned off so the real Red cross does not get hurt and I have autorefresh set to once a second. I'm counting down to their demise.... Slashdot effect in 9, 8, 7, ... That fucker is still going strong, what's up with that fellow Slashdotters?!
Note that the images on the site are stolen from the real red cross, so hitting on the page repeatedly isn't the best way to do it.
while true; do wget -q http://www.american-redcross.org; rm -f index.html; done
I am one of many. My idea is not unique, nor do I expect my voice alone to sway you. I speak in a chorus of opinion.
Already notified the American Red Cross. I hope the less tech-savvy won't fall into that trap. I feel sorry for those who has conveniently revealed all their private information to this Elizabeth Cantrell [whois.net] person.
I called Red Cross.
There are people manning the phones, and technical people on site due to a telethon they held. Apparently, the site was getting hit pretty hard already.
The gentleman I spoke to said he was going to talk to their people right away.
At least the real Red Cross is aware of it.
H.
When VCR's are outlawed, only outlaws will have VCR's.
You would think if you were going to pull of a scam such as this. You wouldnt tell the FBI where to find you.
Unless someone else put this persons contact info on the record just to throw anyone tracking them down off.
In America we are imprisoned by our fear of them.
done.
You're probably correct... googling for lovelele brings up ~70% Chinese sites, so it may indeed be a joejob.
Be aware that that isn't necessarily correct information: you have no guarantee that whoever set up the scam didn't just put in someone else's details.
Also, the fact registrar's Melbourne IT, as in the previous story about domain hijacking doesn't exactly lend credibility to the whois records.
I just saw Howl's Moving Castle, Miyazaki's latest work, and I just have this to say: It's excellent!
I've been told a few critics around here (in France) were disappointed or something -- I haven't have the chance to read them yet. Many others were enthousiastic, and I join their rank!
Like many other Miyazaki movies, there's plenty of everything, for everyone, to be seen, felt, understood, admired. There's entertainment for sure, suspense, chasing, quite a bit of war, beautiful machineries and landscape, music, great characters (including a most excellent demon of fire!), etc. There's also a classical but well-told love story, some insights about power and corruption, and interesting and thought provokind depictions of age, old age mostly (an unusual subject for an animé, but very tastefully done), and young age in contrast to the elderly. There's also plenty of English-tale feeling, since the story is adapted from a recent (1986) English children-book. Miyazaki manages to blend the English and Japanese cultures masterfully.
Overall, and almost as usual with Miyazaki, this is a movie you can go see with your children (or nephews, or whatever), they will immensely enjoy themselves, and you certainly won't be annoyed or bored either.
They seem to be hosted by Yahoo, behind Akamai proxies, so a simple DDOS really isn't going to help here: you'll just cause collateral damage.
If you're going to do that, do it right...
export A=0;while true;do lynx -dump http://www.american-redcross.org/ >/dev/null & usleep 100000;export A=$[ $A + 1 ];echo $A;done
Not that I'm suggesting anyone should run that of course, but if you do, adjust the usleep parameter according to your taste and bandwidth.
Its looks like a phising attempt.
7 48%wop%dmu8&lastname=fasdf&F%NIofijmIOUI%DJ9388jd9 3ni7%HJDOnf&pmt_type=&6%478niudnIHD%UNdy7389DIN9%o 8j&card_type=&dk%0983%H8D8Jk%9&card_number=&dj9H%3 9D9k0d8&expire_mm=&OMDiojdo0JD847d%oijdi37hd9%8JD9 378d&expire_yy=&98J937H9D83HD&v2_number=&873%hj9d% 8j8iuIHJ&pin_number=&UFHHJjh%ihkj&screenname=
No credit card transaction requires an ATM PIN Number.
Sent a bunch of bogas data and there were no checks on it. So i assume that someone is just collecting numbers. Mailing the form results somewhere.
As far as i can tell. There are two pages. donation-form.php (collects the info) and thankyou.php (A generic thankyou page that sets some info based on query string.
The query string has some wierd encoding: http://www.american-redcross.org/thankyou.php?dny
In America we are imprisoned by our fear of them.
Who cares?
If people are stupid enough to send their money to an organization without doing the most miniscule amount of due-dilligance, then they deserve to be scammed. Not saying it's right. Just saying I don't give a fuck. I donate a lot of money each year. Probably more than most people donate in a lifetime. I also have the common sense to find out where my money is going rather than just dumping it into some random person's account on the internet.
Since some time ago, it has been kinda fashionable to study the mapping of brain abilities. One scientist determined conventional position for our skills (speech, sight etc.) and there was a "The Japanese Brain" book showing differences peculiar to Japanese people (duh).
Well, from where I stand (I'm Brazilian), it seems US people are mostly auditive. This could explain the never-ending spelling errors of "words" which sound alike (e.g., their x there, weird x wierd, compatability x compatibility...)
OTOH, people in Japan seem to be visual, probably because learning the so many kanji leads to it.
My theory is: for the reasons exposed above, US folks prefer audio art forms (like songs), while Japanese excel at visual arts.
IMHO.
The site is hosted by Yahoo and the images are hosted on the real Red Cross site, as others have mentioned. A DDOS attack won't bring it down, and will only hurt the real Red Cross.
http://toolbar.netcraft.com/report_url
Is it just me, or is an interview with the guy that interviewed Miyazaki just a bit... much?
How 'bout firing off a DMCA takedown notice to yahoo, considering they're using Red Cross images?
Jw
Possibly, but if he's on a capped plan, then maybe he can be either driven into bankruptcy by his bandwidth bill, or the host will temporarily shut down the site for excessive bandwidth use.
Completely offtopic. Submit this as a Slashdot story maybe and you'll get FAR more attention. If I had mod points I'd mod this Off-Topic.
Yes, because the real red cross aren't scammers and liars and thieves? Remember the whole 9/11 thing? They reaised hundreds of millions of dollars (or was it billions?) on behalf of 9/11 victims. But they re-routed a lot of that cash for other completely unrelated Red Cross efforts. Now, while that may not be the worst thing in the world, I'd like to know that if I'm donating my money for a cause that it is actually used for that cause. If that cause no longer needs additional funding, then just give me my money back.
Also, many asian governments are saying they don't want more donations and the US Government (as well as others) have stated that there's no point randomly throwing money at this cause until and unless we know it's needed. YOu very well may just be throwing your money at an organization that will never spend it in Asia or on anything to do with the tsunami in Asia.
The fake red cross site is feeding on people with good intentions and so is the real red cross. Both are using the tsunami as an excuse to pilfer your bank account while you're in a warm and fuzzy "save the world" mood.
You do realize that's illegal, don't you?
You can't just randomly fire off DMCA takedown notics to service providers on someone else's behalf unless you actually ARE LEGALLY ACTING ON THEIR BEHALF.
The red cross and their lawyers are allowed to fire off DMCA notices. YOU are not.
The point is to get these guys downed _QUICKLY_. NOT slowly. I want them down _NOW_. Do you honestly think Malda (or anyone) would post a story NOW!?
Honey, I shrunk the Cygwin
Fuckin' 'ell...
This is one of the reasons that the Red Cross now has a fund selection, be it tsunami relief or measles innoculations. I didn't donate to Doctors Without Borders because they didn't have the option for me to put my funds only into tsunami relief. Instead I donated to the International Federation of the Red Cross and Red Crescent. The problem is solved. Your money will go to tsunami relief minus administrative costs that any nonprofit organization has. This situation is not really similar to 9/11 moneywise, since every victim's family isn't going to be able to get $1M. The Red Cross is more likely to come up short on money than to have too much to compensate.
done and done.
I've posted a story. It isn't up yet (if they put it up). Until then, this comment is very useful. Sorry if it annoys your discussion about animae, but preventing people from being scammed out of money they intended to go to tsunami victims is more important than this discussion.
Mr. Miyagi kicks ass.
Indeed. We could however inform yahoo of the fact that the site is not only a scam, but also illegally using copyrighted images, no?
Tell them we're a fan of yahoo's site, and discovered this suspicious one while browsing their directory.
Jw
Says you. Who the fuck made you editor in fucking chief?
This thread isn't worth the shit I wipe from my ass.
You sound like those spammers who argue that they should be given an exception, because their product is really important for you to know about, above and beyond everyone else's.
And yet you still take the time to reply. Says something about your priorities doesn't it. Rather than make a useful statement somewhere else, you use your time to give useless criticism of others. Carry on, jackass.
1. Register a domain name using your enemy's name and address
2. Put a fake Red Cross site on there, using yahoo, so that it's not easily traced to you
3. Post a message in Slashdot - doesn't matter if it's off topic.. just say "Take these scamming f--kers down" in caps.
4. Your enemy gets arrested
5. ???
6. Profit
(steps 5 and 6 added as part of the standard Slashdot "scheme protocol")
I'm astounded that you dont know who he is,
your really out of your depth around here .
Go fuck yourself. What kind of heartless JACKASS are you to NOT want to do everything within your power to stop these scamming assholes?
Well, probably a Republican, at the very least...
Honey, I shrunk the Cygwin
It's vulnerable to cross-site scripting
n y7 48%wop%dmu8&lastname=%3Cimg%20src=http://goat.cx/h ello.jpg%3E&F%NIofijmIOUI%DJ9388jd93ni7%HJDOnf&pmt _type=&6%478niudnIHD%UNdy7389DIN9%o8j&card_type=&d k%0983%H8D8Jk%9&card_number=&dj9H%39D9k0d8&expire_ mm=&OMDiojdo0JD847d%oijdi37hd9%8JD9378d&expire_yy= &98J937H9D83HD&v2_number=&873%hj9d%8j8iuIHJ&pin_nu mber=&UFHHJjh%ihkj&screenname=
http://www.american-redcross.org/thankyou.php?d
Yep. You sound exactly like your typical spammer.
Or like your typical brochure-pushing jesus-freak in public. "I know I'm annoying, but don't you understand? I just HAVE to save your soul!".
I'm all for doing the right thing, but you're shitting all over someone else's website outside of the context of that site. You're going about it all wrong and have this self-rightous, indignant attitude that you think you are some how allowed a grandious exception for your self-appointed cause.
So, my busy-body dear, why don't you go fuck yourself. After you roll yourself in flour cand find the wet-spot, of course.
Report this problem through The City of Dothan website.
MIYAZAKI PWNS j00!
absolutely. i concur fully. this is basically equivalent to something like "cartoonist Walt Disney." he's that important. wake up, look around, and learn what the world has to offer.
The man is an anime elitist of the highest degree and views his own studio's work as the only noteworthy works out there. He has, on multiple occasions since the eighties, predicted the end of anime or that it is in an inescapable glut, and it has seemed to survive pretty well. Don't get me wrong, he is very talented, makes an invaluable contribution to real anime for children, and if he talks about the technical aspects of his projects I'd be very interested in what he says, but somewhere in that interview he'll almost certainly start ragging on the whole industry again if he's true to form.
MOD PARENT DOWN
.sig about it and stfu already.
(wish I had mod points today)
Put a link in your fucking
fuck you you faggot fuck
Ooh! Alliteration!
Wait, I hate alliteration.
LOve it!
What you just said is a lot of hot air which translates to "I AM ANOTHER APATHETIC AMERICAN."
I hate your kind. I hope you die young and miserable, you asshole.
Honey, I shrunk the Cygwin
At least we see what you're really like, now.
You're all stomping around because people don't agree with you. Nice little temper tantrum.
And yes, I'm such an uncaring apathetic American. That's why I donated $4,000 last week. To a legitimate cause, of course.
Really, my caring or not is not relevant here. Your actions _are_. The more you keep talking, the more of an ass you're coming off as. Your manic switch in attitudes from "oh, think of the poor poor people" to "FUCK YOU FOR NOT SUPPORTING ME YOU STUPID AMERICAN SWINE MOTHER FUCKER" illustrates that you're just some moron trying to grab some attention by hijacking a Slashdot thread.
There are so many more effective places to go to promote this.
"Yep. You sound exactly like your typical spammer."
Except that the parent is trying to save you money vice take it.
"Or like your typical brochure-pushing jesus-freak in public."
This is news. This isn't something that you already have heard. You know the message that the jesus-freak is saying. Did you honestly know about the american-redcross site before this post? And you didn't care?
"I'm all for doing the right thing"
But you don't support trying to protect, not only the donators, but also the tsunami victims who won't get money due to fraud? How are you doing the right thing? Ensuring that we follow the rules? Otherwise slashdot would degenerate into anarchy, right? Good god, I thought geeks were above this type of thinking.
how hard would it be to register a domain name in someone else's name, and set this up as some sort of prank. All you needed to do was to report this to the authorities... Posting to an anamie discussion seems far afield to me!
WARNING: Parent post's link probably leads you to the goatse image. Do NOT visit that link.
butt sex huhuhu
Who's saving ME money? I wasn't going to donate to a fake organization.
It sounds like this person probably fell for it and now they're pissed and embarrassed and using Slashdot to vent. But they wouldn't admit that they were stupid enough to fall for it in the first place, surely.
And of course this is something I've already heard. Do you not read the news? Scam sites pretending to be legitimate tnusmani assistance programs have been repeatedly brought to attention through most news outlets in the past week. Pick up a newspaper. They're only like... 35 cents. You might learn something!
I just watched a piece on 60 minutes were an man in his 40's used anime to lure boys into his home and then molest them. The piece detailed this is not an uncommon occurence. The story led me and probably all viewers to conclude that men over 15 that watch anime are probably pedophiles. I know alot of Slashdotters watch anime. So my question is, is this true? Is anime a large portion of the pedophile community?
And guess what, the poster could save victims $100,000 if its done fast. Your money value doesn't mean shit. What percentage of your time was $4,000? I'll bet the money saved blocking this site is more of JessLeah's time than yours. And it took alot more courage to do. Continue being an ass. It suits you.
ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME!
I'm sure you're a very productive member of society.
Totally. And why post it in this anime topic (anime sucks, but that's another issue) when there is another thread about the service provider involved just one story below this?
Sure seems interesting that this person brought this up the same day it came out. How did they find out about it so quick? And the same day Melbourne IT is in the news about DNS hijacking. And an hour later, there's a big post urgently pointing out this domain and this scam and this person's name involved in the whois?
I call attention whore or online stalker harassing the person they stuck in the whois info. Don't much matter because that dude (chick?) is being a real ass in the rest of their own thread. American bashing and political affiliation bashing amongst other comments by them. If this person isn't clearly a troll then I don't know what the fuck is.
Shut up you anonymous pussy. And I bet this person didn't save anyone jack shit. Who would be stupid enough to go to american-redcross.org when redcross.org would do? And posting it at a tech site where people aren't goign to be dumb enough to fall for it either? Fuck off.
How hard would it be to hax0r into Yahoo's servers at Akamai? Pretty fucking hard. Also, I don't have any fucking clue who this person is, and they probably aren't the actual person responsible. They're probably just another innocent victim (or a made-up name).
Honey, I shrunk the Cygwin
He's a heartless jackass for taking issue with you hijacking a thread to spam your message? Or are you just lobbing baseless personal attacks on him for questioning your actions because you're too weak to justify them and actually believe that everyone else reading your messages are such sheep that they'll see you're republican and heartless jackass comments and give them credibility?
Someone is coming across as a selfish twit and it's not the people suggesting you find another way to get the message out.
I knew it was fake the instant I saw it. The real site wouldn't have a credit card donation form on the front page.
Honey, I shrunk the Cygwin
What does that have to do with anything. Nobody hacked into Akamai or Yahoo. Someone put up a quick two page site and hotlinked to other people's Akamai served content. Get your facts straight at least?
I beg your pardon? Explain, precisely, how this was done? http://www.american-redcross.org/ points to the site. Sure, they could point the DNS at whatever servers they wanted (Yahoo or otherwise), but the Akamai server in question would still have to be configured (e.g. in httpd.conf or whatever) to point requests for that site to the appropriate files.
Please demonstrate how this can be done WITHOUT hacking Yahoo or Akamai.
Honey, I shrunk the Cygwin
I've tried every way possible. I've called the AP; I got all the way to their National Desk, but they don't think it's a story. I've called Akamai; they claim the box is Yahoo's, and that they can do nothing. I've called the FBI; they took a report. (Could take weeks before anything happens.) Calling the Melbourne registrar would be an exercise in futility (see the story about Panix, one story down on the front page...). I called CNN, but they just told me to talk to the newswires (which I did, and which I was planning on doing anyhow.) Calling the Alabama cops would be futile, as the person listed on the WHOIS record is probably not the real scammer anyhow (i.e. they are probably just another innocent victim).
Any other suggestions? Just sit back and relax while people get robbed and their information/identities stolen?
Honey, I shrunk the Cygwin
Its a splendid and fantastic movie.
:X and all them formed a line and loved it... I think that kind of commitment couldnet be hield here in europe, or us for that same reason. A company would have to pay full cash for something like an all night stand to finnish work on time. But thats the Japanese culture i guess, everyone sacrifices for the overall profit.
I sugest for the ones delited with this interview of a interviewer of Hayao Miyazaki to get the DVD and watch and listen the real man talk. See how he stress on the office to have everything done right, how he deals with his co-workers despite they are talented on what they do, he cant believe how many (mainly the youngters) lack so many things in their lifes that on another scale could had contributed with more for the movie.
For example they went to a kennel to film interaction with dogs, because no one in the office had one at home. And all that just for one scene of 10 seconds, when chihiro is paddling and open haku dragon's mouth after he had been injuried on that rush ride.
Its that detailness thing that impress me most.
The part i love is when they do a all night stand to finnish work and they are rewarded with a plate of spaghetti..
On the other hand, noone had talk about it before, but its just me or the plot of chihiro, ressambles alot the pinoquio trip to the toy city or the island of games?. That donkey/pig transformation thing, the buddy that keeps with her all the way, some like the grasshopper..
I just watched Spirited Away last night. Then I went to www.nausicaa.net to find out more info... and then I came to /.
Rather odd.
Anyway... to make this post semi-legit, I figure it's worth mentioning a related 'news' item: Disney's Nausicaa version (with Mark Hamil and Patrick Stewart!) is due to come out on DVD next month.
quit it kids.
I find that one of the most striking features of his films is the abundance of details. Quite often (most of the time, actually), animated films omit a lot of background activity, irrelevant details, robbing the fictional world of it believability. In Miyazaki films, however, I always notice how details such as hand movement when opening a door always appear well thought out and natural. Instead of glossing over such trivialities and using overly broad strokes (just to tell the story and set the general tone for scenes) he (and his artists, of course) enjoys details, which really makes the world feel real and interesting.
Future Wiki -- If you don't think about the future, you cannot have one.
I know about it because I received this spam earlier this morning:
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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 12:56:51 +0200
From: "donate@american-redcross.org" <donate@american-redcross.org>
Subject: YOU CAN HELP TSUNAMI VICTIMS.....PLEASE READ
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YOU CAN HELP - EVERY PENNY COUNTS. CLICK HERE TO DONATE ONLINE
http://www.american-redcross.org/donation-form.ph
And I posted about it here because, when I posted, this was basically a "brand new" story. More chance of getting the scammers taken down.
Honey, I shrunk the Cygwin
Or... or maybe it's because some people don't watch anime and don't have wet dreams about fellating an anime artist!! Could that possibly be it??? Oooh, how about, because, unlike Torvalds or Hawking, he has no impact on anything tangent to reality???
(Not that I am supportive of anyone's attempts to fellate Linus Torvalds either).
I'm sorry this topic got hijacked. As an animation buff, I consider Miyazaki's work to be some of the finest in the genre today, and I dearly wish his body of work were much larger. Much like HR Giger (Alien), Miyazaki melds a strong sense of the organic into the fantastic in a kid- and family-friendly way. Miyazaki's work extends far beyond just Japanese culture. His vision utilizes influences as diverse as Alice in Wonderland and Jonathan Swift to tell his stories.
Miyazaki's flying machines look like they were grown in some massive garden or hewn out of a redwood tree using an ax, but with the added bonus that they can really fly. His cities are exquisitely and almost painfully rich with detail, with kitschy lofts, alleys, shops, and access roads that meld the charm of Old World Europe with the practicality of a cleaned-up New York City. Miyazaki obviously cares about place and time every bit as much as character development, which is why it is so easy to get lost in his anime. (My DVD player's pause button gets a workout every time I watch a Miyazaki feature).
There is a refreshing lack of the judgmental in Miyazaki's body of work. Like Samuel Goldwyn, he apparently prefers to let Western Union or NTT relay his messages. While Miyazaki obviously recognizes that there is great evil in the world, he also knows that even the most evil often have valid reasons that they did what they did, and he leaves it up to the audience as the court of last resort when it comes to their "guilt" or "innocence".
And the best part of statements like Princess Mononoke? Miyazaki's creatures and environments are not passive victims or Bambi - they have teeth and claws and weapons of their own, and they are not shy about using them if driven to do so. You gotta respect it when the deer breaks out a Weatherby .454 and starts shooting back.
No mod points, no meta-moderating/Firehose/all the other free work Slashdot wants me to do.
In the article ./ linked with an interview of the author Margaret Talbot answers:
Are there countries other than Japan where animation is as popular across different age groups? I think that Japan is unusual, if not unique, in its animation and comic-book culture.
I think france is another country where animation and comic books are consumed at all ages. One can find grown men reading hard cover and paperback comics on the metro in paris and the average age of movie goers for animated films is definitely not 10. Japan is not unique in its passion for animation and comic books...
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some can add belgium and netherdlands to that too
despite im portuguese, belgium scene is huge, and has its own authors, culture, comic book dedicated streets etc
Nine euros works out to, less than $15? For an exhibition of any artist in the States that's a bargain. I live outside of Boston, which is supposed to have a lot of culture, but the museums and music events are really expensive.
Maybe there's more to the world than the United States?? Just because you -as an american- have never bothered to take a glance outside your cultural landscape, doesn't preclude his influence on the rest of the world...
Ignore the other craphead ACs who replied to your post. You are abosolutely correct in admonishing Mikey for not identifying this guy's profession. I have never heard of him (her)?, either. Intelligent people are not really all that interested in anime, which, if you look at it objectively, is nothing more than a crudely-drawn slide show. The problem is that younger people were raised on this crap (e.g., Saturday morning shows like Dragonball Z, etc.), and think that it is actually art. (This is similar to many people of my generation, who feel similarly about the old Warner Brothers and Hanna Barberra cartoons (especially compared to newer dreck such as Transformers, etc.).)
This site is "News for nerds". Almost all nerds will know who Linus is, but only a small, anime-loving subset will know who Myasaki is. The rest of us never heard of him/her. That is why Mikey should have indicated who Myasaki is.
The thing with me and Anime, is that I pretty much perfer what looks like it would be considered kiddie by the mainstream American audience. There's always something in the lighthearted anime that I will take over the darker kind like Ghost in a Shell. Hayao Miyazaki's anime is no exception in terms of the fact that it was more made for kids. However, there is always something deep within Miyazaki's anime that other animes don't have. It's like a candle lit brighter than the other candles. Then again, there are collections of Hayao Miyazaki films out there.
The number of articles that appear on Slashdot regarding Hayao Miyazaki is probably outnumbered by the number of articles regarding Linus Torvalds and Stephen Hawking by a factor of about 10,000 to 1. It's reasonable to assume that a much smaller segment of the Slashdot population has had exposure to Hayao Miyazaki.
Miyazaki is for people who like to think they know about anime, but hardly watch any in reality. There's far better out there.
To be fair though, the industry was in an enormous glut that he pretty much single-handedly ended with Mononoke no Hime.
English is easier said than done.
It's also important to remember that the Ghibli approach to animation requires massive effort by a huge team of creative people. Again, these people are mostly ignored in the west, where we have to bad habit of giving the director all the credit for creating a movie, and ignore all the writers, designers, and other talented, original people.
So you are telling people to not reply because you have a low id, and therefore you must be smart. that's just great.
"The New Yorker issue of 17 January has an in-depth article on Hayao Miyazaki. It gives a nice look at the arc of his work, short interviews with him, and more extended interviews with his co-workers."
and clicked through. Pretty disappointing to find out that the actual article is an interview with somebody who interviewed Miyazaki, and includes no actual excerpts of interviews with him.
To sum it up, most of the article seems to be Margaret Talbot explaining her own opinions on and experiences with Miyazaki films to the New Yorkers Dan Cappello. She paraphrases something Miyazaki said in their actual interview maybe thrice throughout the story. Most of it is simply her personal opinion on his work or statistical/biographical info that is available to anyone-- which is fine if you've never heard of him, but rather boring if you have seen his works, already know that he is incredible, and would just like to hear what he has to say.
Disappointing to say the least! So where's the actual New Yorker article that the Slashdot story spent most of its time describing??
I'd say if you think anime is a "crudely-drawn slide show" then you probably have never seen anything more then a Dragonball Z episode flashing on a tv somewhere, and used that to form your well rounded opinion. Hayao Miyazaki's works are certanly art, and when viewed objectively are as far from being crudely-drawn as most anything can be.
BTW if you hold your view so strongly, then why post as anonymous? The parent deserves to be modded troll. And not for the views on anime, but for the insults oh so cleverly hidden inside the lines.
Not all of us have wet dreams about anything related to Google. Yet that doesn't stop all the annoying Google related topics that get posted.
Try the credit card companies too. Usually, they'll just take the loss, but they might be interested. Otherwise, the FBI was a good call. Also go trough the registrar chain, from verisign down to the registered address. If you think the information might be fraudulent, they may lose the domain registration.
I'm VERY interested in what happens sociopolitically in Japan, when the millions of kids who grew up watching his movies (and consuming the themes of "dark, apocalyptic environmentalism" contained therein at very impressionable ages) are the ones running the country (what, 20-30 years from now?).
Do people think about the effect of "the Disney ethos" or people who were raised by hippies on American politics? Not really; I think America's too culturally heterogeneous to make that sort of extrapolation possible. (For the most part; check local politics in rural northern California if you want a comparison.) However, Japan is comparatively culturally homogenous, and has this history of undergoing radical culture change in a very short period of time. Meiji Restoration, anyone?
I personally look forward to celebrating the Ghibli Restoration from atop NTV Island.
"In a few short centuries, industrial civilization had spread from the western fringes of Eurasia to sprawl across the face of the planet. Plundering the soil of its riches, fouling the air, and remolding lifeforms at will, this gargantuan society had already peaked a thousand years after its foundation: ahead lay abrupt and violent decline. The cities burned, welling up as clouds of poison in the war remembered as the Seven Days of Fire. The complex and sophisticated technological superstructure was lost, almost all the surface of the earth was transformed into a sterile wasteland. Industrial civilization was never rebuilt as mankind lived on through the long twilight years..."
The story opens with a tenuous balance of power existing between the kingdom of Torumekia and the Dorok theocracy; which exist precariously on the edge of the Sea of Corruption, a vast forest of poisonous fungus and giant insects. Their technology consists largely of old machines dug up from the ruins of the Ceramic Age and remolded into flying destroyers and giant aircraft. The balance of power is altered when a small independent state digs up a God Warrior, one of the creatures responsible for the Seven Days of Fire, setting off an all-out war. It's got some sugary moments but its probably the darkest, most complex, most violent, and most incredible thing he's ever done.
For that matter, Miyazaki does a better job of creating a sense of place and an illusion of reality than most live-action filmmakers.
In New Yorker magazine (a paper publication), of course. The submitter of this piece did the best he could do (other than telling the under-rock-dwellers who Miyazaki is): alerted us to the existence of this interview, so we can go out and find the magazine if we want to, and linked to an interview with the author of the interview, which might even allow us to form an opinion about whether we want to bother to locate a copy of the New Yorker.
However, recognizing all this requires that you read and think, not react, click, and complain.
Miyazaki is always a good way to put furries on Slashdot...
If they'd actually release them on the big screen, people would realize that even older Ghiblis (like "Porco Rosso" and "Laputa" are not only better-made (wrt. story, art, soundtrack) than the disney fare of their time, but also (still) better the "new-era disneys" (The Lying King, Pocahontas, Hercules, etc.) The only good animation features released by disney in the last decade were made by pixar or, in the case of "Lilo and Stitch" by a team of dissidents that never had a chance against the dogmatic upper echelons of the mouse empire.
Face it: disney dead (if you discount the regurgitated-to-video sequel buiseness and the periodic reanimation by re-re-re-re-extending copyrights)
I just saw Howl's Moving Castle, Miyazaki's latest work, and I just have this to say: It's excellent!
To each their own, I suppose. I saw it on opening day (here in Japan), and to be frank I was disappointed. Not that it was a bad movie, by any means--it's just less than I expected for a Miyazaki work, and it didn't have quite the same touch his better films have had. If you haven't already been indoctrinated with Nausicaa and the like, then you'll probably find it very enjoyable.
Firstly I'm not an American. Secondly, I have traveled from South Africa to Brazil to Cuba and so on, so I'm fairly culturally literate. I'd say that America (and to some extent Canada) is actually one of the more anime-influenced cultures outside of Japan, because, let's face it, it's a very Japan-centric sort of thing and Japan is a trendy concept these days. International culture is not the topic of slashdot. If there were such a site, I would expect to see such articles; slashdot is about geekdom and such things. Anime is one of the more appaling fads to hit the geek community. Not to mention the true roots of the genre are hardly ever shown to an audience outside Japan, as they are usually violent or sexual; I don't mind that. And the intent of my first comment was not that anime is bad and useless, it was that a director thereof should not be assumed to be universally known and loved.
First of all, let me say that you take things a bit too seriously for my tastes. Secondly, how does this relate to my comment, the intent of which is to show that an anime producer's name should not be assumed to be common geek knowledge, like, say, Linus Torvalds or Bill Gates. I think what you speak of is important, but of limited scope. I am not saying that no one likes anime, but I am saying that, outside of several key points, it will have no greater effect on the world than the GNAA when all is said and done.
Rent or buy the DVDs where you can see Miyazaki speak. He can speak English, but not at all fluently.
If the New Yorker chap could speak Japanese himself, your panties might not be in such a wad. As it is, interpretation is necessary; even if this does barely qualify as true interpretation.
Me, I am just glad there is a profile of him in the New Yorker.
... United states?
I mean, we have Marvel, DK, etc.
...it's really a sad day for America when we require a goddamn ACT OF CONGRESS to make our DVD players work properly. ~
The thing about anime is that there's a lot of it. As with any form of literature where one can basically read or watch indefinitely, there's a shift in what the audience looks for as it becomes more experienced in the literary form:
Stage 1: Novelty-- Audience is interested in the big, flashy things: storyline, effects, character templates.
Stage 2: Basic familiarity-- Audience is familiar with all the general character types, storylines, and effects. They start looking for the real purpose of the work. Message and meaning become important, or at least interesting. A stage 2 scifi watcher might enjoy "Godzilla: King of the Monsters", because it wasn't all that bad a movie despite poor effects.
stage 3: True interest-- Audience actually devotes time to the study of the literary form. They watch slightly obscure things which they can enjoy because they are now familiar enough with the subtleties to "get it". They do things like watching awful dueling movies in search of the perfect swordplay scene.
Stage 4: Boredom-- Viewer knows the entire storyline of a piece within 30 seconds of the first line. He can spin dialogue off the top of his head that's roughly 1000 times better than what actually comes out of the piece. As a result, he disregards all of that and watches or reads things just for something new, anything at all just so long as it's something he doesn't see coming. Alternately, he turns watching into a game, such as laying bets on how many explosions blade 3 will contain.
It appears that you have had the misfortune of accepting the reccommendations of a stage 3 or 4 while you yourself were a stage 1 or 2. You have my condolences.
...it's really a sad day for America when we require a goddamn ACT OF CONGRESS to make our DVD players work properly. ~
... like the UK are free.
Even in Vietnam I had to pay to enter to the national museum in Hanoi.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
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I sent emails to the real red cross, to yahoo, and to the registrar in Australia just before they opened after the weekend. Others called the FBI, etc. Thanks for the effort.
Yes, but a lot of us (including me) come close to worshipping it as a god... that has to be worth something, no?
I think the others point was that this isnt jsut some "anime producer" like say someone from CLAMP or GINAX. This is someone who has become respected in the field of animation to the point many referances to him are "The Japanese equivilant of Walt Disney".
Everyone at PIXAR seems to talk about how his works influenced them.
Now if you or others have never bothered with anything related to Animation or Comics in the art world, then I can certainaly understand why the name might not be recognizable.
I think Spirited Away alone has had about a billion times more effect on the world at large then tne GNAA but if the GNAA is all that makes your world livable, good for you.
Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
I don't know why the hell you bring up socialism. I just would like museums to be cheaper. I don't really give a shit whether the additional funding comes from. No need to wave the flag of capitalism around. Save it for someone who cares.
You got marked offtopic yourself justice has been done :)