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Gnome 2.10 Sneak Peek
spectre_be writes "Davyd Madeley wrote a Sneak Peek at Gnome 2.10, scheduled for release on the March 9, 2005. Looks like the new release-policy is starting to pay of, as several existing utilities get enhancements and a couple of new ones are added. Also (finally) a mozilla-stylee type-ahead find has been implemented in Gnome's Open/Save dialog. Together with OpenOffice.org 2.0's scheduled release and Novell's Mono coming up to speed, will 2005 prove to be the year of Gnome?" Update: 01/18 01:40 GMT by T : Oops - the "2-point" got chopped off in the headline; still a while until GNOME 10.
...from the previous releases. Looks fantastic - and actually looks like the interface was *thought through*. Good job team.
Actually, it is pronounced, guh-nome and guh-nu.
That being said, I pronounce GNOME as "gnome", and GNU as "guh-nu".
Not according to the Gnome website.
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They may be on a 6-month release cycle, but they still use the Linux versioning system where x.odd releases are development (use Ubuntu Hoary or Gnoppix 0.9.3b2 if you want to see 2.9 in action) and x.even releases are stable, production releases (the latest of which is still 2.8). That said, most people aside from the Gnome developers aren't using 2.9 for a variety of very good reasons (the menuing system has massive bugs in it yet).
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I agree on the dorkyness count, but that said Miguel, Nat, and all the other Ximians say "guh-nome" in real life.
If you check it out it's a classic case of the odd numbers being -dev and the even numbers being release. I'm running 2.9 right now because it's the -dev arm of 2.10 :)
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OO.org was "adopted" by Gnome as its Office Suiote a while ago. Being that there is more work going on to fully integrate it with Gnome expect more people on the Linux side to refer to it as Gnome's Office suite in the future.
I do find it amusing to read this page though
http://www.gnome.org/gnome-office/
Miguel himself said to abandon Gnumeric and put all efforts into OpenOffice years ago. Sorry I don't have the exact link but that is exactly what it said. Abiword, GNumeric willl obviously still be hanging around but as soon as its possibly expect OO to be fully integrated into Gnome releases and Abiword,Gnumeric to disapear from the above page. I don't know anyone in the community who doesn't think of OO.org as the future Gnome Office.
I couldn't quite tell from the article, but are true transparencies going to be supported in, say, gnome-terminal, using the Composite module?
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So true.
For those who are unfamiliar with Sun versioning:
* Java 1.5 is the same thing as Java 5
* Solaris 2.10 is the same thing as Solaris 10.
Sun alternates between both these naming conventions, sometimes within the same document.
I have no clue why that can't just stick to a single versioning scheme.
Windows XP looks like a Fisher-Price toy unless you alter it to something better.
The default WinXP gui freaks me out like few other interfaces. I'll rather have the CDE-gui than the deafult WinXP-gui. No flamewar intended, but the WinXP gui really, really looks like it was designed for a 2 year old to play with, not for people to work with.
"A new exiting interface" my ass...
/oldschool
Not Buzzword 2.0 compliant. Please speak english.
A whole bunch of file dialogs from different OS are here. Panther's looks kind of similar to the current GNOME one - the old GTK dialog looks like the older MacOS style.
With Novell (who also owns Ximian) via SUSE and other large companies like IBM. The default desktop for *all* of the commercially successful desktop distros (commercially successful, since you're talking about commercial alliances). Connected to state contracts with national governments like Germany's Kolab project.
KDE does have plenty of connections, as does Gnome. I'd hardly say that either is ignoring that aspect of their projects. Both have excellent people working toward commercial advocacy.
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Evan
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Obviously you're using the standard version of OpenOffice. GNOME has their own GNOME-ized version, ximian-openoffice. I personally prefer it to standard OpenOffice, probably because I use GNOME and it all fits in well with the desktop.
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Yup, Ubuntu 5.04 (The Hoary hedgehog) will ship with 2.10 - Gnome is the default desktop and it's policy to synchronise releases.
If you can't wait till April, then you can get preview isos and preview live cds from the ubuntu site: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GettingUbuntu
Gnoppix is shipping a live cd beta based on Hoary, with 2.9.3: http://www.gnoppix.org/ available for *three* - count 'em - platforms: x86, AMD64 and PPC.
John
This isn't off-topic - it's on-topic for a metatopic. At least read the entire thing (particularly the end) before modding me in any direction, be it up, down, or along the imaginary axis.
First off, this is Slashdot. For software announcements, see Freshmeat. It's not like the two are in competition with each other. Next, the title of the article contains an error in the version number of Gnome being announced. But we'll let that slide, since it got caught within a few hours and an update was posted.
Now, into the meat...
spectre_be writes "Davyd Madeley wrote a Sneak Peek at Gnome 2.10, scheduled for release on the March 9, 2005.
This is incorrect in one way or another. Either Mr. Madeley wrote an article entitled "A Sneak Peak at Gnome 2.10" and the submitter failed to capitalize the A, he wrote an article entitled "Sneak Peek at Gnome 2.10" and the submitter added an extraneous A, or he wrote a generic sneak peek at Gnome 2.10 and the submitter erroneously capitalized "Sneak Peak." Additionally, is the article scheduled for release on March 9, 2005, or is Gnome 2.10 scheduled to be released that day? Finally, I didn't have to be told that it's the March 9, 2005, as only one such date exists and rules of usage insist that you not tell me which one even if you are ambiguous as to year.
Looks like the new release-policy is starting to pay of, as several existing utilities get enhancements and a couple of new ones are added.
The grammatical error of leaving out any subject for the verb looks notwithstanding, there are a few errors here. "Gnome's new release policy" would have been correct - note the omission of the extraneous hyphen and specification of whose release policy is being mentioned. Also, the word sought here is "off," not "of." I'll let "couple of" slide because it's a part of the vernacular.
Also (finally) a mozilla-stylee type-ahead find has been implemented in Gnome's Open/Save dialog.
Stylistically, "finally" should have been set off by commas, not parentheses; but it's not technically incorrect. However, "Mozilla" should have been capitalized and "style" has only one E. Also, the last time I checked, the "open" and "save" dialogs of most programs are separate, even in those cases where the "save as" dialog is just called "save."
Together with OpenOffice.org 2.0's scheduled release and Novell's Mono coming up to speed, will 2005 prove to be the year of Gnome?"
Unbelievably, the submitter completed an entire sentence without any real errors. It's irrelevant to the story at hand, which is itself outside the scope of this site, but, as far as the English language goes, it's correct! Good work!
Revised, this reads:
spectre_be writes "Davyd Madeley wrote a sneak peek at Gnome 2.10, which is scheduled for release on the March 9, 2005. It looks like Gnome's new release policy is starting to pay off, as several existing utilities get enhancements and a couple new ones are added. Also, a Mozilla-style type-ahead find feature has finally been implemented in Gnome's open and save dialogs. Together with OpenOffice.org 2.0's scheduled release and Novell's Mono coming up to speed, will 2005 prove to be the year of Gnome?"
That didn't take me all that long to do. If submitters would do the same, there would be a lower rate of submission and each submission would be higher quality. If the editors would also do this, there would be fewer duplicate stories, fewer already-dispelled urban legends posted as fact, and higher-quality content, all of which would lead to higher subscription rates and greater income. That's how real newspapers make money: they produce a quality product that's worth the price they charge.
I find SCIM a pretty feature complete solution for me. It has a GTK config module, which can be accessed from the GNOME menu, and shows its status in the notification area. It also (probably most importantly) has a good input methods for each CJK language.
Ubuntu 5.4 Preview will ship with Gnome 2.10 on the day of its release, and Ubunbu 5.4 Final a week later.
You know, Microsoft's street address also says a lot about their mentality.
Actually, GNOME Storage is a pretty dead project. What people probably want to see screenshots for these days is Beagle. Beagle gathers metadata and indexes content instead of replacing the filesystem. And it Just Works. Has done so for months.
Unmentioned on that page: Epiphany extensions can now be loaded/unloaded on-the-fly. The epiphany-extensions package comes with an extension which lets you do this. And the adblock extension is coming, dammit!
And there's also "pyphany" in CVS. It lets you make extensions using Python. Included in the CVS module: a Python Console extension, which is probably the best way to prototype extensions (you can, say, connect a signal to change the zoom, with just a couple of lines of code).
Well, I don't think the GNOME developers really publicise the devel versions until they're close to a release, at which point they call them 2.10 pre-release or whatever. But, for example, on the developers blogs at Planet GNOME, they refer to the work they're doing on 2.9 quite often.
That 270MB is not "for a desktop". It's for SEVERAL desktops (three simulatenous desktops for three different users who are logged in on the machine), together with SEVERAL running applications, X.org, several background-services (some by Linux itself, others by the desktop) and the like. And since absolute minimium amount of RAM in PC these days is 256megs, I think that's pretty good.
But hey, if you really want to use as little as RAM as possible, how about something like Ratpoison? Or Fluxbox? Or Xfce?
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