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Episode III Opening Crawl Released

moggyf writes "The official Star Wars website has revealed the opening crawler text for Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith, currently scheduled for a May 19th, 2005 release."

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  1. General Grievous? by 10Ghz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    *sigh*

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    1. Re:General Grievous? by lpangelrob2 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      So I'm guessing that you're one of those people that 25 years ago said, "Skywalker? How cheesy is that? Does he even think he's a native-American tribal hero?"

      Or are we again doomed to a thread where all that is holy and righteous was that which was Star Wars 4, 5, and 6. :-p

    2. Re:General Grievous? by Bigthecat · · Score: 3, Insightful
      "General Grievous was developed for Episode III as a powerful new villain on the side of the Confederacy. The initial instructions that Director George Lucas gave the Art Department were very open-ended: "a droid general." From that vague direction, the artists developed a lot of explorations, some purely mechanical, some not, for the look of General Grievous."

      One would think that 'vague direction' and 'a lot of explorations' would come up with something innovative. But, as can be seen from the picture, what do we have?

      A droid, in the shape and likliness of a human, holding two lightsabers. I mean honestly! Put it together with the name 'General Grievous' (What is his taunt going to be? 'I HAVE A GRIEVANCE WITH YOU!!')

      And along with that, what shade of bullshit are they going to come up with for the reason a Jedi can't pull the cord out of it's head and disable it? Arrrgh!

      To think of the fine Star Wars books that could have been made with this money...

    3. Re:General Grievous? by OleMoudi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Every time some little detail about Episode III is revealed, people is always looking for catastrophical flaws at first sight and flashbacking to episode I.

      Seriously guys, if you try hard enough, you can easily see flaws in almost everything, even in the old trilogy. Try to imagine yourselves writing an opening crawler for episode III that couldn't be in some way criticised for any stupid elitist star wars zealot.

      Don't bury the movie till you see it

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    4. Re:General Grievous? by bombadillo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My god, how fucking stupid can Lucas get?

      He can be as stupid as he wants. Just as long as we keep flocking to see his movies and making him millions...

    5. Re:General Grievous? by mmkkbb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      a robot MONKEY? george has been watching too much powerpuff girls...

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  2. General Grievous? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My god, how fucking stupid can Lucas get?

  3. Not again! by wjames · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why does it sound like the story line to Episode I? Seriously, Kidnapped (Captured) Political Figure, Jedi go save her. They dont need to use the story line from Episode 4 all 4 times.

    1. Re:Not again! by emilymildew · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not ties-in to EpIV that I'm looking for. Lucas already has too much *wink wink* about things. See also: "This is my girlfriend, Baru." "This is my robot, C3PO."

      He's breaking the things that he originally wrote to wink at the audience, and that's stupid.

      Dear George Lucas,

      learn subtlety.

      Love,
      emilymildew

  4. Back to the Future by TFGeditor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is it just me, or does the whole "back to the future" approach somehow degrade the Star Wars saga? The new stuff has nifty effects and all, but it just doesn't have the "feel" of the originals.

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    1. Re:Back to the Future by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > THEY ARE ONLY FUCKIGN MOVIES and enjoy the
      > entertanment they offer.

      The problem is the entertainment value has dwindled. The original movie was pretty whiz-bang, and delightfully cheesy, though I cringe through quite a bit of it now.

      The Empire Strikes Back was where it hit its stride, and really left us SW freeks at the time hanging on for what Episode VI would be like.

      Episode VI bashed us over the head for f*cking ever with that awful Jabba's Palace sequence, though seeing Carrey Fisher in a skimpy outfit was something of a payoff. Unfortunately the movie just sort of collapsed. I believe David Brin wrote a really keen analysis of Episode VI, pointing out that whether Luke turned to the Dark Side or not was meaningless, as the shield generator was destroyed and the second Death Star (another f*cking Death Star???) was doomed anyways.

      Episode I managed to ruin the notion of the Force by trying to technobabble it. I mean, Darth Vader didn't need some midochlorian detector to tell the guy that blew up the first Death Star was strong with the Force, so why is it suddenly so necessary for the Jedis earlier on?

      Episode II didn't even make much sense. Dooku's role is just bizarre, and even the first time I saw it was scratching my head as to why he's revealing to Obiwan that there's a Sith Lord controlling much of the Senate, when he's in fact the bloody f*cking apprentice to said Sith Lord. Yoda's little tacked on explanation of sowing seeds of disharmony (or whatever the line was) was idiotic, and seemed just that, tacked on to try to explain this really screwy encounter between Dooku and Obiwan.

      In other words, the plotting of these movies is just plain bad. When your remove the special effects, only Episode V really stands up, and the others could have been written by a high school creative writing student.

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  5. "There are heroes on both sides" by manifoldronin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I guess that leaves the door open for whatever the upcoming Lucas Arts games.

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  6. And with that... by JasonUCF · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And with that, the final raping of your childhood memories of Star Wars is now nearly at hand. Grab your wallet, grab your glasses, and grab your ankles.. May is coming sooner than you think!

  7. good grief by WormholeFiend · · Score: 2, Insightful

    General Grievous is described on the star wars site basically as a cyborg, not a droid.

    Or do they mean he's the general of a droid army?

    These people need good writers, that's for sure.

  8. Re:Hope It's not Another Kid's Movie by PriceIke · · Score: 2, Insightful

    May I suggest Battlestar Galactica as an alternative. Sci-fi for grownups.

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  9. 4-5-6, then 1-2-3 (optional) by hsoft · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would watch 4-5-6 first because if you watch 1-2-3 before 4-5-6, the big punch "Luke... I AM..." in ep5 will be spoiled because you saw ep3.

    Yes, SW should be more enjoyable in the 456123 order, or better in the 456 order.

    Hey, why not trying 654321? It must be fun :)

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  10. Re:Can someone explain something(s)? by RobinH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since Palpatine is the Emperor, how can he be on both sides?

    He's a politician, right? It doesn't matter which side of the aisle he sits on, he's evil through and through.

    Seriously, episodes 4, 5, and 6 were about the rebels (clearly good guys fighting for their freedom) overcoming the "evil empire". It was clear where the good/bad distinction was. In episodes 1, 2, and 3, it's the story about how they got to that point. There were no clear sides, just decay throughout the entire old republic. Some people were good and some people were bad, but the good guys weren't organized to see what was going on.

    To me, this is all very much related to how we all perceive world events. In the late 70's, early 80's, there was a clear good and bad side to the world (from our perspective in the west). The soviets were the "evil empire", and we were all the good guys fighting for freedom. In this day and age, the lines have blurred. Nobody's sure who's on "our" side, and we're all afraid about terrorists infiltrating our own neighourhoods. We still want to live by the old ideals of freedom, but we are also aware that there are people in power who might not have the noblest intentions. It's hard to paint Iraq or Iran as truly "evil" because we shy away from stereotypes now. The governments can't unite us against any enemy that we can't all agree is evil.

    When I was growing up 20 years ago, the U.S. was the ultimate "good guy" nation. Now, none of us (outside the U.S.) know who the good guys really are anymore. Many of us expect the U.S. to turn on the rest of us merely out of its own self interest, even if it's against its own self-proclaimed principles to do so. Within the U.S., it seems like many people also worry about whether their own government will turn on them some day.

    Movies tend to mirror the ideas and fears of the time when they are made. These movies are no exception.

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  11. Re:Worst Star Wars ever? by ultranova · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do we ever bother caring anymore?

    Because it is Star Wars ?

    Will we have more jar-jar? Yup.

    No. We had less Jar-Jar in Ep2 than in Ep1, so logically there's even less in Ep3. Besides, if you think about it, Jar-Jar was actually a neccessary character for the plot - to get the Republic army established.

    Yup. Will we have another wonderfully dark, brooding piece of science-fiction/fantasy like "The Empire Strikes Back"? Errr, no.

    Possibly. I don't really see how Ep3, with the birth of Vader and fall of the Republic (and death of nearly all jedis), could possibly be anything but dark.

    But, on more general note, was I the only one who actually liked Ep1 and Ep2 ? People seem to dislike them because they don't have the same feel as the Ep4-6, but of course they can't have the same feel - the original SW trilogy described a war, but the war only started at the end of Ep2.

    Just forget midiclorians (as Lucas apparently did in Ep2 - never, ever try to explain mystery) and the ludicrous episode of kid Anakin accidentally blowing up the droid battleship, and they are actually pretty good movies.

    I, for one, am very interested in seeing this one - now that the plot is moving full speed, with a desperate war being fought in the background, and Vader appearing to the scene, there is every reason to believe this could be the ESB of the new SW movies.

    It better be - because if they mess up my favourite childhood villain...

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  12. Re:Worst Star Wars ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I liked them to.... (man, I should get an account, this is my 15th ano.... )

    Most people don't realise two critical aspects:

    Episode 1 was no where as good as the originals: true... but then, when was the last time you read a GOOD (not just any old one will do, it has to be one you thought was well thought out and well written) Novel where the first chapter was better that the one with the climax... (please no inuendo jokes)

    The 'Romantic' dialog in Episode 2 was supposed to be crap... what is anikin it that one late teens, early twenties at best... and in terms of emotional maturity we was at best 14. Have you ever listened to any one that age 'try' to be romantic in conversation, or better yet, remember when you yourself were that age and were trying to woo the women. Trust me, they are/you were that bad... no matter what you would like to believe.

    Anikin walks into Padmes appartment, seeing here for first time in 10 years: "And you've grown to, more beutiful I mean, for a senitor"

    Me in audiance: "That is the worst line I have ever heard!... wait a minute, it sounds familiar... holly shit, I used that one on *name removed to protect the innocent*, no wonder she ran screeming in fear!"

    so in conclution I have commpletly forgotten what it was I was going to say so:

    slashdot:"Character limit exceded..."
    me: bloody hell!

  13. Re:"You WILL!" by the31337z3r0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In a manner of speaking, he knows them TOO well. The original trilogy (4, 5, 6) used models as opposed to CG. In my opinion, the models were MILLIONS of times more convincing than the CG in the past two movies. It's almost as if he's stretching the CG too far.

  14. Re:Holy... by p3d0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, that's way worse than "Skywalker" or "Solo" or "Organa" or "Sidious" or "Maul".

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  15. I would think the reference is blindingly obvious. by abb3w · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The evil that men do lives after them;
    The good is oft interrèd with their bones.
    So let it be with Caesar. The noble Brutus
    Hath told you Caesar was ambitious.
    If it were so, it was a Grievous fault,
    And grievously hath Caesar answered it.
    -- Wm. Shakespeare, Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene ii.

    Given that this is a story of the fall of the Republic and the Rise of the Empire, Lucas' literary allusion here seems to have all of the subtlety of a high-speed halfbrick to the cranium.

    Come on, everyone-- ripping off Shakespeare is a noble literary tradition !

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  16. Re:Worst Star Wars ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The only problem with Ep1 and Ep2 was that George Lucas directed it. Let's face it, the guy cares more about action figures than acting.

    If George directs Ep3, it is sure to be another stink bomb.

    The thing is, I and many of my generation have been looking forward and dreaming about the Clone Wars since it was first mentioned in Ep4. George has to know the bar is set pretty high for this part of the story. In theory, it should be as good as or better than Empire, but I have a this sinking suspicion....

  17. Georgie? Is that you? by gosand · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Don't bury the movie till you see it

    Mr. Lucas, is that you?

    Fool me once (Ep I), shame on me.
    Fool me twice (EpII)... uh... can't get fooled again.

    That twit isn't getting any more of my money. For Ep II he only got the rental money, this time he isn't getting squat.

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  18. ...heros on both sides.... by jzarling · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seems to be pandering to the "no one is ever wrong" crowd. The beauty of SW was that good and evil were so well defined. The Empire BAD - Rebellion GOOD.

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