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Bill Gates Handwriting Analyzed

Kaal Alexander Rosser writes "The BBC is reporting that a doodle left behind at a Davos press conference given by Tony Blair, Bill Gates and Bono shows the writer to be: "an unstable man" amongst other things. The Gates Foundation has confirmed the doodle was left there by Bill Gates."

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  1. Speaking as a geek... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd have to say, no surprise there. Anyone who is a geek knows were all at least a little unstable... You have to be to be attracted by Technology more than girls.

    1. Re:Speaking as a geek... by kevinx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not a geek? You my friend are in denial. You read slashdot and claim to have an understanding of ad,dns,dhcp,nfs,nis, and kerberos. You attempt to conceal your geeky-ness under the banner of artist.

      I'm sorry I have to break this to you, but you are a geek. I don't care how cool your friends are.

      And for the record, Geek != Loser.

  2. handwriting analysis? by tuxette · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Geez, what next? Are they going to do his star charts? or read the coffee grind remains in his mug?

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    1. Re:handwriting analysis? by chris09876 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No kidding... it's a bit drastic when they start to analyze peoples handwriting to develop a personality profile like that. I doubt there's anything accurate and important they can determine by looking at handwriting.

      It's easy to modify your handwriting style. It takes some time, but you can adjust your habits to write "in whatever font" you want. I don't understand how people can draw useful conclusions from it. ...especially if you scribble something down in a hurry.

    2. Re:handwriting analysis? by coyotecult · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The sad thing is they THOUGHT they were doing it on Tony Blair, and attributed all these not-so-hot characteristics dissing his leadership abilities. I'm still trying to figure out how they can determine all of that, and not realize that it's not even Blair's handwriting. Big gaffe. Serves them write. I'm so tired of pseudosciences -- especially ones that have been admitted in court as evidence.

    3. Re:Handwriting analysis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Well the CIA believes in a lot of imaginary things like WMD's in Iraq.

    4. Re:Handwriting analysis? by multiplexo · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Is that why every major government intelligence house in the Western world devotes so many employees to it? Because oddly, I've never heard of a phrenologist working for the CIA and the astrologer/psychic they hired a few decades ago as a consultant was unceremoniously relieved of her duties after a string of nothing but failures, whereas the handwriting analysis unit is still around.

      Would these be the same Western intelligence agencies who for years overestimated the capabilities of the Soviet Union and were completely blindsided by 9/11? I'd hardly use the fact that the CIA, of all organizations, employs a group of graphologists as an endorsement of the validity of graphology. The fact that they had even hired a psychic/astrologer as a consultant explains a lot about why they're so fucked up, the fact that they apparently still have graphologists on staff just confirms this.

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  3. Bear in mind... by gowen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most of those assessments were made when the "graphologists" in question were under the belief the doodle was Blair's. So we should withhold judgement until we have second opinions from the Phrenologists, Dowsers and any other Pseudo-Scientific Charlatans who feel like chipping in with their worthless, substance less opinions...

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  4. Handwriting Analysis.... by big-giant-head · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Right up there with reading tea leaves and goat entrails.

    Now analysis to verify for a court that this is the defendants handwriting yes or no,for example is a science.

    Tying some Psychological profile to someone's doodle is a joke......

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  5. The real scoop by paranode · · Score: 5, Insightful
    For those of you who didn't bother to look at TFA:

    A spokesman said: "Following the press conference given by the prime minister, Bill Gates and Bono in Davos on Thursday, a number of newspapers printed stories claiming that a page of notes and doodles left behind on the platform belonged to Tony Blair, and provided an insight into the mind of the prime minister.

    "They were in fact doodles made by Bill Gates.

    "We look forward with amusement to explanations by a variety of psychologists and graphologists of how various characteristics ascribed to the prime minister on the basis of the doodles, such as 'struggling to concentrate', 'not a natural leader', 'struggling to keep control of a confusing world' and 'an unstable man who is feeling under enormous pressure', equally apply to Mr Gates.

    "We are astonished that no-one who ran the story thought to ask No 10 if the doodles were in fact Mr Blair's, particularly as it was obvious to anyone the handwriting was totally different."

    In other words, graphology is BS and the people who analyzed it already had a preconceived notion about whose it was and made the appropriate BS analyses.

    1. Re:The real scoop by mrseigen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm leaning towards "Really fucking bored". That's where all of my doodles come from.

    2. Re:The real scoop by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 5, Insightful

      These remind me of lie detector tests. It's unfortunate that these ideas are given any credibility.

    3. Re:The real scoop by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > These remind me of lie detector tests. It's
      > unfortunate that these ideas are given any
      > credibility.

      Agreed. Polygraphs are so pathetically unreliable, but unfortunately if you refuse to take one (which I would seriously consider if I was charged with a serious crime) then somehow that makes you guilty; the classic "If you're innocent, you've got nothing to fear." Even the cops know that lie detectors are crapola, but it's a useful tool to smoke out a true believer who thinks the freakin' things can read minds.

      People seem to give a lot of credence to this pseudoscience, though to my mind this sort of handwriting analysis is no better than phrenology and astrology.

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    4. Re:The real scoop by fraggirl13 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      People seem to give a lot of credence to this pseudoscience, though to my mind this sort of handwriting analysis is no better than phrenology and astrology.

      I once met a guy that was a handwriting analyst. He said he could tell my personality by how I write. Everything he said was very vague and could be applied to anyone. Some of it wasn't even true. He also said that if I cross my t's higher I would be happier. Still waiting for that one to work.

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  6. Analysis was of Blair by BlueThunderArmy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The "unstable" and "unfit to lead" assessments were made when the doodle was assumed to have been made by Tony Blair. While you would think that the same conclusions would be drawn regardless of the identity of the scribbler, there is speculation that the original conclusions were politically motivated.

  7. In my expert analysis... by Anita+Coney · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From reviewing the doodle, it's is my expert opinion that Bill Gates has the doodling skill of my five year old son!

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  8. This is juvenile by CaptainZapp · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Look, I like a good microsoft bashing, just as most of my fellow slashdooters, but don't you think that this is a very cheap shot?

    No doubt that Microsoft has some shady business tactics. There's no question that they provide shoddy products from a security perspective and then push responsibility for their goofs to on user community. There's the issue ,of corse, that they hound free software by the cheapest pr tricks in the book and the system Microsoft sucks shit! Well, hell! There's a lot of valid complaints when it comes to chastising Microsoft as a corporation

    I really don't want to ideolize Mr. Gates and he is often guilty of wrong speak; willingly or out of ignorance.

    But attempting a character analyses from a doodle he left at a conference (which potentially was boring) is just plain juvenile.

    Hold your ammunition for the real issues, slashdot, and retain your credibility in the bargain...

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  9. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "site"
    "sentence"
    "spiritual"
    "reconstruct"

    "something we are sadly losing in the computer age"

    Like proofreading?

  10. Pseudo-science by Savant · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why is this newsworthy? Graphology is completely unsound from a scientific point of view, though it might interest students of the Forer effect. What next? Steve Ballmer's horoscope? What the tarot has to say about Larry Ellison's future? Crop circles resembling Linus' face? (All right, I reckon the last one could possibly be newsworthy. But, still, do we really want to go further in this direction?)

  11. Re:This is Press v. Blair not Press v. Gates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This means the people who work in the media are idiots and arent to be trusted. Clearly they're stupid and not worthy of 'informing' us with this sort of filth.

  12. Is this the Bill obesssion? by Stunning+Tard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As the parent notes the story isn't really about doodles by Bill Gates, but about doodles that aren't by Tony Blair. And the ensuing BS because people assumed they were. The only thing remarkable about Gate's involvement is that he's such a clear proof that the graphology is crap. Him being a genius and all.

    It's like when 2 students pass in the exact same assignment and get 2 vastly different marks.

    It's interesting but why does slashdot care about some doodles? I'm sure most of us don't. It has nothing to do with tech or tech-related news. If, however, there was an improved version of quick sort hidden in the doodles we should all sit up. Is there a way to mod the original articles down?

    1. Re:Is this the Bill obesssion? by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Insightful
      No, it isn't proof that graphology is crap. It is just a reminder that ANY qualitative analysis will be influenced by your own preconceived notions.

      But you're right. It is like when two students hand in the same assignment and get two different marks. The professor reads the paper and assigns a grade based in part upon the quality of the paper, but in part on preconceived notions of that student's performance. It's human nature.

      Now if none of these people had the slightest idea that it was believed to be Mr. Blair's, then that would prove that either graphology is crap, those people din't know what they were doing, or Mr. Gates is unstable and not a natural leader. There's not enough evidence here to say more than that.

      From everything I've read, Mr. Gates got lucky by buying MS-DOS from someone who didn't know its value, then used that as a springboard to buy other technologies and hire other people. That's not leadership. It's business. There's a big difference. Only the people directly under him can truly speak for his leadership skills or his stability. I don't see any volunteers coming forward, though.

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    2. Re:Is this the Bill obesssion? by Brandybuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's not leadership. It's business.

      Dislike him all you want, but the lack of technical skills does not equate to a lack of leadership. As a businessman, he is one of the world's top leaders. Yes, he got a few lucky breaks and happened to be in a few right places at the right time. As the old saying goes, "when opportunity knocks, answer the door". Bill Gates is a leader because he answered the door, walked through it, and kept on going. How many of us would have bet our fledgling business in 1981 by buying a CPM/86 clone?

      Or to put it another way, you don't take a two man firm financed off your mother's credit cards and shape it into a monopoly with 90%+ marketshare by being a follower.

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    3. Re:Is this the Bill obesssion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Then you need to read more.

      Not to mention evaluate your own statements. Using the tech to springboard other technologies is smart. Hiring other people around you to support a moving product is smart. Mobilizing at the right time is smart. Amassing resources is smart. The middle two have factors indicating good leadership.

      Frankly, organizing people well despite your flaws indicates quite a deal of leadership.

      Heck, knowing a business opportunity and moving on it...yes, it includes luck, but also mobility in decision making. Yes, he has a rich father, yes, he was gifted with above average technical intelligence, but you still have to DO quite a number of things to amass the fortune and company he has. /. readers bash the rich for not doing anything with money; he did. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and still did something with his life. People bash the rich for not giving back; he did and does significantly through his foundation. /.ers frequently claim smarts is being underappreciated in the US; then why are you attacking him almost on those very lines?

      Yes, business tactics do not indicate leadership by themselves. However, forming a multi-billion dollar company needs luck, intelligence, and leadership. Frankly, he's been on the front lines with Microsoft and was more so in the past, and despite all the MS bashing, he did make it into a monopoly, which surprisingly was his true miscalculation and the success was used against him.

      iow, despite the millions of naysayers, the talk, the ability to mobilize as he did, the only way that he was was taken down was because he was too successful and manipulative of the power he had already amassed.

      Further, why is it any surprise that Gates has his flaws? Maybe you are lucky and fortunate to have surrounded yourself with good people. But looking at the average person, and a comparison of the extremes to that average, Gates has fewer mental flaws than the norm. You just know about them because you and others like to nitpick at every damn thing.

      Frankly, it's the /. bully tactics similar to those used against nerds in school--find someone you don't like, group together, and bash them for being successful, being smart, etc. You talk about leadership versus the business success as being different things.

      The /. editors have gone on a recent run of anti-Gates the person run; you dislike MS? Then target the operating system. Don't target the man for being a human being and, *gasp*, having flaws. If you allow this to continue, you have little reason to be pissed if someone says you shouldn't use GPL software because Stallman is a dick.

  13. typing this from linux. by xutopia · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I find this distasteful. Bill Gates probably has horrible hand writing but guess what? So do most people who type instead of handwrite. Heck I'm so used to my palm pilot as the only thing remotely ressembling hand writing that when I need to write using a real pen I laugh at myself making plenty of horrors.

    This is really of bad taste guys. As much as I think Bill G. is Napoleonic and demented I don't put that basis on his handwriting.

  14. Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Would you say Bill Gates was a strong and charismatic leader? That he's NOT struggling to keep control of the world? That he's NOT an unstable man who is feeling enormous pressure?

  15. Handwriting analysis bug by flibuste · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Handwriting analysis is well known to be a non-science with non-facts based on non-events that produce non-results.

    It's also a non-brainer way for slashdotters to do some M$ bashing.

    Maybe it's time for /. to move on or for me to stop wasting my time. The quality of information on this site is degrading every day.

  16. He's not unstable, he is bored by mark99 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He has created one of the biggest companies of all time, and made it almost unassailable.

    There is nothing technical he can do that one (or a dozen) of his employees can't do 10 times better and faster.

    He has (probably) saved millions of lives through his malaria research.

    He has a nice wife and three kids. He has a really cool house.

    What else is there left to do?

    Maybe he could try being a Linux Kernel Hacker...

  17. Right up until you try a handicapped person's by crovira · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My handwriting is non-existant. My verticals go off in every direction and my line is uneven.

    Am I disorganized? An idiot?

    No. I have MS. To me the pen is an instrument of torture; my own.

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  18. Amusing by Pan+T.+Hose · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In other words, graphology is BS and the people who analyzed it already had a preconceived notion about whose it was and made the appropriate BS analyses.

    Graphology is just as laughable as astrology, acupuncture or homeopathy. Here's a nice experiment for your amusement: when you meet a "graphologist" who'd like to demonstrate her amazing "skills" to you, be sure to make an experiment using text copied from some newspaper, the same text written by all of the tested people who had no contact with the graphologist before and during the handwriting examination at all. Observing the graphologist's face when she doesn't have "side channels data" and no interaction with people to play with "cold reading" is a trully hilarious experience.

    "This shape might sometimes mean that maybe some kind of a impatience... am I right?"
    "Just keep going, I don't want to disturb you!"

    And the most funny thing is that unlike psychics they can't just make up some dumb excuses that they feel some disturbance of Force or that the Angels are scared by the camera, because they are supposed to be scientists. Looking at someone's writing you can usually tell the gender and age--the same I can guess reading someone's palm... Or foot... Or arse! Does it make me an arsologist?

    For more interesting informations read: Wikipedia article on graphology, James Randi's comments on graphology (by The Amazing Randi of JREF who offers "a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event"), graphology in the Skeptic's Dictionary by Robert T. Carroll, PhD, and of course the excellent Quackwatch paper How Graphology Fools People by Barry L. Beyerstein, PhD. This is not the first time we can laugh at psedoscientific morons on Slashdot thanks to The Amazing Randi.

    And a comment to CmdrTaco: please add the Monty Python foot to the article because without it we look like a bunch of imbeciles. What next? Bill Gates tested by the lie detector and a story posted on science.slashdot.org? Please just add the foot. Thanks.

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  19. Stalin.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    And when Stalin demanded steel production be at a certain point, every did anything they could to make sure steel production met his demands.