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Could Your Blackberry Be Damaging Your Thumbs?

Sammy at Palm Addict writes "According to the BBC, Regular Blackberry use 'could damage thumbs', experts warn. Trendy handheld Blackberry devices could cause damage to users' thumbs, doctors are warning. Sales of the £200 gadget, which can be used to email, page and phone, have boomed in recent years with celebrities such as David Beckham using them. But US and UK doctors said repetitive use could cause arthritis or harm tendons in the thumb. Research in Motion, which manufactures the Blackberry, said it would not comment on the claims."

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  1. Thumb Damage by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting
    According to the BBC, Regular Blackberry use 'could damage thumbs', experts warn. ... But US and UK doctors said repetitive use could cause arthritis or harm tendons in the thumb.

    And years ago I got a GyroMouse which required the right thumb to press mouse buttons and was definitely less strain that the index finger pushing down all the time. Maybe I should be glad I'm back to an old-stlye mouse. Meanwhile, how about millions of people using their thumbs on all those Game Boys and such? Are we headed for an epidemic of arthritic thumbs? It could make tobacco settlements look tame.

    celebrities such as David Beckham using them.

    He doesn't need his thumbs anyway.

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    1. Re:Thumb Damage by kylegordon · · Score: 4, Funny

      He doesn't need his thumbs anyway.
      Isn't his brain in one of them?

    2. Re:Thumb Damage by fireduck · · Score: 2, Informative

      Meanwhile, how about millions of people using their thumbs on all those Game Boys and such? Are we headed for an epidemic of arthritic thumbs?

      I can speak from personal experience that long term gameboy play does indeed put some serious stress/strain on my hand and thumb. After periods of continually using my GBA (say a cross country flight, 6-8 hour timeframe), the combination of repeated thumb movements and the way in which I hold the GBA gives me some serious aching and weakness in my thumb joint. It takes a couple of days away from the GBA before my hand is back to normal, so I've severly limited the amount of time I spend on it at one sitting, because of the possiblity of repetitive stress injuries.

  2. FUD? by fembots · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The finding seems to be about the difference between thumbs and fingers, and the fact that thumbs are not designed to be tapping away for prolonged period.

    However, why is it targeting Blackberry only? I would imagine this HP4350 and many other devices will give similar problems.

    Next time they'll find most Roman emperors died of Occupational Overuse Syndrome because they kept using their thumbs on gladiators or lions.

    1. Re:FUD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting


      The finding seems to be about the difference between thumbs and fingers, and the fact that thumbs are not designed to be tapping away for prolonged period.

      about 6 years ago I was diagnosed with de Quervains thanks, of course, years of typing. The doctor was going to get me in surgery. A friend recommended a split keyboard and within a few weeks the pain was pretty much gone. I swear by them now, they saved me from being operated upon.

    2. Re:FUD? by kevinx · · Score: 2, Funny

      They forgot to mention that if you hold it next to your head you may grow a tumor.

    3. Re:FUD? by Ubergrendle · · Score: 2

      Notice the fact that there's no scientific study conducted and no definitive examples cited? A whole article consisting only of medical conjecture based on qualitative experience. If I read an article with more 'might', 'maybe's, or 'theoretically's, I would have assumed it was a Rumsfeld press release.

      Bad journalism, bad article, bad slashdot posting decision.

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  3. Bunch of crazy alarmists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Next thing they'll be saying is "smoking causes cancer." Give me a break with your "science!"

  4. How is this... by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How is this any different from any other mobile device, remote control, game controller, or similar item which has buttons we press repeatedly?

    (First Post?)

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    1. Re:How is this... by CrankyFool · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Frequency of use.

      I've got a remote control. To watch TV, I:
      A) Push a button to turn the receiver and TV on;
      B) Push a button to go into 'TV mode'
      C) Press 'Guide button'
      D) Press 'up/down' to go up/down pages;
      E) Press 'Enter' to pick a channel.

      So that's somewhere between 4 (D is not required, potentially, if something interesting is already playing) and ... 30, maybe, keystrokes if I have to go into the 'recorded shows' mode?

      Then, during normal operation, I barely use the remote control, every once in a while maybe adjusting volume slightly or picking a different channel.

      Now, write a decent-length response to an email on a RIM. How many keystrokes was that again?

    2. Re:How is this... by Alomex · · Score: 2, Funny

      But that is because you are a girl. The average man on the other hand changes channels an average of 8 times per minute.

  5. Theysaidthiswithgameboystoo.. by datastalker · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...andmythumbsarefine.Justlook,Ihavenoproblemswith typing.

  6. Blackberries don't damage thumbs by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    People damage thumbs.

  7. Seems they took a lot of time... by Goronmon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seems they took a lot of time and effort to basically say...

    "Using your thumbs a lot might make them sore at some point in time."

    Like someone else mentioned, its silly that are focusing on one product that will cause this. Almost makes you wonder who got the idea to do this article.

    1. Re:Seems they took a lot of time... by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I can tell you exactly who got an idea for this. Someone thought, *shit, they're going to give me a blackberry at work and I really don't want that leash* and thought of this. The next time my boss says he wants me to get a blackberry, I'm sending him this link. I will avoid that thing like the plague. There is no email that I need to get when I am not in the office. If they want to get me, they can take the trouble of calling.

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  8. My PC is damaging my wrist by gelfling · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you know what I mean.

    Seriously, doctors in the UK need to take chill pill. It seems every day some Royal Academy of Whatchamacalit is pontificating on the dangers of everything.

  9. How is this different from game controllers? by Meostro · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How is a Blackberry any different than your average game controller? I remember the old-school Nintendo nothing (not 64, Super, etc.) had the most painful control pad i've ever used, I'd get "The Claw" from playing it for more than a couple hours.

    1. Re:How is this different from game controllers? by UWC · · Score: 2, Insightful
      A month or so ago I was playing a PS2 game (I think it was Jak II), and I noticed that the outside edge of my hands at the base of my thumbs were hurting to a surprising degree. I guess it was the fairly wide range of motion required by the analog thumbsticks combined with the fact that I probably had the muscles tensed. Regardless, I was massaging my hands for quite a while after finishing that mission and turning off the PS2.

      I'll attribute that to the fact that the thumbstick locations on the PS2 controller are pretty much crap. At my desk just now, I put my hands in the positions required to use the stick with the thumbs and still have finger access to the shoulder buttons, and my thumbs were already extended from the resting position. The Gamecube controller and XBox S controller put the primary analog stick and shoulder buttons in much more natural positions.

  10. Isn't this just a new variation of Nintendo thumb? by PornMaster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seems a bit nuts to go all Doomsday about this when kids use their thumbs 6 hours a day playing console video games... and when their thumbs hurt, they stop. You don't see GenXers walking around with crippled thumbs, do you?

  11. Quick Summary by mopslik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1) A handful of researchers think that using your Blackberry "repeatedly" might cause thumb damage.

    2) There have been no reported cases of said damage yet.

    That's pretty much it. A lot of "The Blackberry could..." talk, but little else.

  12. This just in by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Any continuous repetitive motion involving the pressing of fingers or thumbs to electronic buttons of any kind on any device can lead to medical injury if done too often.

    There. That just saved us years of research and tens of millions of dollars. Please remit 10% of that to me for my valuable input.

  13. Duh by mkop · · Score: 2, Funny

    Doing something over and over again is almost always not good for you.
    There are a few exceptions though...

  14. If this were the case... by Hangtime · · Score: 2, Insightful

    my hand should be totally numb and unfunctioning given the amount of Nintendo I grew up playing. Yawn. Move-on.

  15. Darnit by phorm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And here I just ditched my notebook to avoid possible wrist damage and crotch-burn, now you're telling me I need to dump my PDA too?!

    Seriously though, it's an issue of being smart about how you use such things. Give your wrist a rest, let your thumbs hang loose every now and then, and take the notebook off your lap before it gets hot enough to impair your child-producing abilities!

    I haven't heard of anyone sueing keyboard manufacturers over RSI recently, so a little "Some experts believe that regular use of this device may cause thumb strain" should likely be sufficient.

  16. I use the Mac Blackberry by deft · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because it only has one big button.

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  17. did they miss the 80's by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Funny

    and the NINTENDO THUMB?

    those 8bit nes controllers.. damn. they really suck.

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  18. if blackberry was problematic... by jxyama · · Score: 3, Interesting

    then i'm sure there would be reports of thumb problems in asia, especially japan, where people compulsively send SMS and emails using their cellphone/joystick. just take a ride in a japanese commuter train - since actually talking on the phone is considered disruptive and a public nuisance, people either text-message or play games on their cellphone.

  19. The answer is easy! by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 4, Insightful

    uhh....yes. Do I get a prize?

    Seriously though. I love these "could x be harmful?" articles, the answer is always yes. If you do too much of ANYTHING it will be harmful. With that out of the way maybe we can stop jumping up and down and screaming what about the children every time one of these articles comes out...

  20. Worry about pencil and pen usage first by cavemanf16 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It is far more painful (and quickly becomes painful at that) for me to try writing an extended amount of anything these days because I typically type almost everything. It is easier and requires less muscle manipulation to type letters and words and symbols using a keyboard than to hold a pencil or pen and actually form the letters, words, and symbols the "old" way. I would say all this repetitive stress injury syndrome crap is due to our increased workloads in Western civilization, not necessarily the fancy new tech gadgets. In the 1800's, one letter could take a week or more to write, send, and get a response to from loved ones or business colleagues. Today it's constant im's, emails, and blackberry messages going back and forth as fast as you can type. Let's face it, today's communication delays are 100% human and have little to do with the technological limits. It took me several minutes to type this crap out, but it takes 0.43 seconds to post it to slashdot. Chill out on the digital communications and you won't injure yourself. Don't chill out and live with the consequences.

  21. Ahem . . . by Captoo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Somebody should tell these people that gratuitously pointing at the obvious can damage the index finger.

  22. In other news.. by wfberg · · Score: 2, Funny

    Scientists report that riding a steam-train may be detrimental to your health as the unnatural speeds at which it moves might cut off the natural air supply to one's lungs.

    No such damage has been reported, but it's too early to tell, so best be careful out there, folks!

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  23. Re:Celebrities? Is it just me... by baudilus · · Score: 2, Informative

    He's a wildly famous football player in Britain. [soccer, for us Americans] He's also married to some Spice Girl. The paparazzi love him.

  24. Intellivision & Grandma's Thumbs by shoolz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My grandmother played her Intellivision so much that she actually had to have thumb surgery. Yes she had an Intellivision when she was 63 - cool grandma, no? She used to play Astrosmash and Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, which used the Intellivision's side buttons extensively. (She couldn't remember the name of the D&D game, and always called it 'Gorrilas and Pyramids')

    Point is, it's not just the Blackberry. Any repetative thumb action will cause damage.