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Google Local, Definitions, & Registrar

A few Google bits in the bin this morning starting with Philipp Lenssen writes "Google Local has now moved to the Google homepage. The service, while still in beta, has been around for quite a while as one of many Google tools in the Google labs." Mr. Anonymous noted that "In the past, when you clicked the [definition] link after a Google search, you'd be taken to the Dictionary.com page for the word. Now, Google has jumped aboard GuruNet's Answers.com, which not only provides definitions, but encyclopedia articles, etymology, medical defnitions, legal definitions, and word translations all on one page." And lastly, several folks noted that Google has moved into the Domain Registrar Biz which we mentioned monday.

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  1. Slashdot 3 Google by TedCheshireAcad · · Score: 4, Funny

    I swear, we're gonna see it on Slashdot when Google's HTTP header changes.

    1. Re:Slashdot 3 Google by pointerweb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ever wonder what happens when you drop a Google ad? Your sites completely disappear from the Google search results.

      Is there a Googopoly game to reflect their monopoly status yet? I'll bet Google determines the rules.

    2. Re:Slashdot 3 Google by zemoo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Take a look at google's privacy policy:
      http://www.google.com/privacy.html under "Links".
      Google reserves the right to use these tracking URLs.
      In practice, I read somewhere (I forget where), this happens about 1/10 searches. So if you get one of these, try refreshing the page or coming back later.

      And about Acrobat Reader -- there's a "Save a Copy" button in the menu bar.

    3. Re:Slashdot 3 Google by justMichael · · Score: 2, Informative
      Ever wonder what happens when you drop a Google ad? Your sites completely disappear from the Google search results.
      I don't know if that's true. We ran ads with Google for a while and decided that there are changes that need to be made on my end to make that a profitable choice.

      We have always ranked very high for specific product name searches first page if not first result, until a recent tweak on Google, now they are around page 4. The generic terms for us are pretty competitive and we haven't focused on those yet, so we basically don't exist there.

      Now I do list on froogle, but I doubt that has anything to do with it.

      Of course with anything controlled by a third party, Your Mileage Will Vary.
    4. Re:Slashdot 3 Google by Colm+Buckley · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Ever wonder what happens when you drop a Google ad? Your sites completely disappear from the Google search results.

      This is totally bogus. Google advertising per se doesn't affect the search results at all - this is stated over and over again in the AdWords terms of service and I can personally attest that it doesn't happen. It's possible that the added popularity of a site advertised in AdWords could affect a site's search ranking if other people started to refer to it, but the effect certainly wouldn't be immediate.

      "FUD" I name thee!

  2. All these rumors.... by SlongNY · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can definally see google hosting happening now... So many other rumors like the VOIP and the "GooGLeOS".. The hosting one seems it could be legit, expecially now since they are domain guys now.

    1. Re:All these rumors.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      sounds interesting..
      looks like google wants to be a one stop shop for all their services. think about it.
      a)You buy a domain and a site from google.
      b) The site runs on GoogleOS
      c) The customized firefox browser (GBrowser) has direct hooks to the different services google provides.
      d)uses gmail as your hosted mail service and directly intergrates with Gbrowser.
      e) Could have a file store directly integrated with Gbrowser.
      f) Charge 9.95 for the package..

      In the end they could capture all your information and still make it look like its yours.

  3. Re:I'll buy a Google Domain by chris09876 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I could swear I read somewhere recently that at the moment, Google didn't plan on offering domains for sale. Instead, they were going to use the information they got as a registrar to help their PageRank data. For example, they could reset a domains PageRank when the domain changed hands.

  4. US Only by dorward · · Score: 4, Informative

    It looks like Google Local is still US only ... and they keep ***ing redirecting me to the UK site so I can't even see the link to click it. (I'm not planning a trip to American in the near future - but I might have been).

    1. Re:US Only by Fr05t · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's there for Canada.

    2. Re:US Only by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      So, the U.S., and the U.S. Annex?

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  5. Google isn't going to register domains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They're going to use the expired domain information they'll receive as a registrar to cancel previous pagerank.

  6. Google Local Has Been Great by Laivincolmo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have used google local for a while now, and I have to say that it has performed great, usually giving accurate results. There was this one time however where it gave a wrong location, and I was prepared to walk about a mile or two to get there, before I called the actual place and confirmed it. Google's stuff, even when in "Beta" has worked great 99% of the time for me, especially gmail.

  7. Re:I'll buy a Google Domain by KillerDeathRobot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Oh, and if you see your mom this weekend, be sure and tell her Dupe! Dupe! Dupe! Dupe! Dupe!

    Um, it's not exactly a dupe when they say "as we mentioned earlier" with a link to the earlier article.

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  8. google betas... by dAzED1 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    there's another google beta product called "gmail."

    I, and many other folks, recently got set to having 50 invites left. While before it was already close to true that anyone that wanted one could find one, it is now REALLY true.

    Seems their "beta" stuff works better than the first, or even second revision of released code from some other company...

    1. Re:google betas... by xtracto · · Score: 2, Insightful

      why does google keep on moving that invite notice back and forth?

      Well, that is the price to pay for a "beta" service/software. Maybe they are looking for the less obstrusive way of puting there, btw I also like it as it is now.

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    2. Re:google betas... by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 3, Funny
      and *grin* posted a story (which of course was rejected) in slashdot

      Slashdot REJECTED a story on Google? Is the world coming to an end?

    3. Re:google betas... by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 2, Funny

      I, and many other folks, recently got set to having 50 invites left. While before it was already close to true ...

      Okay, look, I'm not deliberately going out of my way to be a jerk here, but when you typed that, a thousand English teachers cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

      A piece of advice, particularly for those who don't speak English as their native language: Stick to simple sentences. Noun-verb-object. It might not be as florid, but you're way more likely to be actually understood by your audience.

  9. Local by wombatmobile · · Score: 4, Funny

    Google local looks good for people who live in Poughkeepsie New York.

    We have a lot of pizza here in "Australia" but Google local doesn't seem to get it.

    Unable to understand address australia. Please try another address.

    Maybe it's just me and my stubborn reluctance to relocate.

    1. Re:Local by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 2, Funny

      I only got one irrelevent hit when I tried "vegemite" and "Las Vegas, NV" on Google Local.

      I guess that's fair.

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  10. Cell Phone analogy by digitalchinky · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's almost like google want to be the central repository of all knowledge. I'm no expert, but could this lead to 'problems' down the line similar to the way Microsoft have cornered the PC market.

    Total information domination. Might lead to the 'all information has a cost' thingy people shout about from time to time.

    Paid for services - no money, no info.

    1. Re:Cell Phone analogy by AtariAmarok · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "I'm no expert, but could this lead to 'problems' down the line similar to the way Microsoft has cornered the PC market."

      "Have" has been corrected to "has" in the above sentence. Last time I looked at PCs being sold, many were Dells and "E", but none were Microsoft. Unless you want to count the Xbox as a mutant PC, they don't even sell PCs, let alone corner the market.

      You are right about Google. If they fixed their bogus result problems, I'd never have to use another search engine again.

      Google has a problem of returning many results that do not even contain the phrase being looked for. See "miserable failure" for a famous example. 3 of the top 10 results for "to be or not to be" do not even contain the phrase. Altavista, while it has fewer results, worse ads, and no cache, has no problem getting 100% relevant results for both searches. It's a bad bug when you search for phrases containing a phrase and the results do not even contain it.

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    2. Re:Cell Phone analogy by unapersson · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not a bug, it's treating the linked text of links to a page as additional metadata. Which is a very useful feature if the page is about a subject yet hasn't used that exact keyword in its content.

      For example you might search for "horror author" and a page on Stephen King comes up, even though the page itself calls him a "horror writer".

  11. Translation... by oliana · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's no Google Local link on my Bork, Bork, Bork! language page.

    I feel slighted.

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    1. Re:Translation... by AceCaseOR · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah. It's not on my Klingon language page. I'm going to Quo'nos this weekend and I'm looking for a place that serves good gagh.

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    2. Re:Translation... by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 2, Funny

      No more calls, please. We have our winner in the "world's biggest nerd" contest.

  12. Google's 2005 Plans by corporatemutantninja · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here's the inside scoop.

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  13. More breaking Google news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Today Pete Smith who is the janitor at the Google offices stubbed his toe as he got out of bed.

    Expert industry analysts agreed that was a significant evolution in Google's services.

  14. Hit Men = Attorneys by waynelorentz · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I put in "Hit Men" in the search box and "Chicago, IL" in the location box it gives me listings for attorneys.

    Looks like it works!

  15. One Step Closer... by redivider · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...Googlezon is imminent

    It's all part of the Google Grid.

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  16. damn - slashdotted. by flacco · · Score: 5, Funny

    does anyone have a mirror of google they could post?

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    1. Re:damn - slashdotted. by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 3, Funny

      Did you try the cached version?

      http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.google.co m/ ;)

      BTW: Seems like Google no longer says it isn't affiliated/responsible for the content of its own page. :)

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  17. I have a non troll question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why is everyone so hard up for Google?

    IBM has a lot of cool technologies, so does Apple. Yet there is more press on Google than on the Iraq war.

    Is Google really God?

    1. Re:I have a non troll question by 0racle · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not yet. Google God is still in the labs, but I assume that it should move to Beta soon.

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  18. local been available for a while by milgr · · Score: 2, Informative

    For the past several weeks (if not months), you could access google local via any google web search.

    For example, to find Pizza parlors in zip 10023, search for:
    pizza, 10023

    Hit the first link which is "Local results for Pizza near 10023".

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  19. Google Local versus MS Search by MrWa · · Score: 3, Informative

    It is about time. The other day when the new MSN search launched, I noticed that the Near Me button already knew where I was. Looks like Microsoft got this feature better - the results are initially based on your IP address which, in most cases, can be backtracked to your physical location. Of course, this can be changed via cookies as Google does it but it is quite impressive to make the local search work right, mostly, without being told.

    1. Re:Google Local versus MS Search by AxB_teeth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Let's be clear about which feature Microsoft got better... Yes, they discovered my location accurately. However, any local searches I do on msn return absolutely useless results. I live in Nebraska, and the first result I get for "pizza" is a radio station from northern Alabama? Where's the sense in that?

      I'll admit that my location is relatively rural, and that Microsoft may not want to bother with indexing businesses in a community of ~40,000, but apparently Google had no problem doing it, with their beta.

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  20. Google Searching for a Bubble? by Sundroid · · Score: 3, Informative

    Speaking of the Big-G, CNET is reporting that Google, now with a market value north of $56 billion, is equal to Starbucks, Nike and Southwest Airlines combined! I have the link to that article on my blog at: http://sundroid.blogspot.com/, in case you haven't checked your portfolio lately.

  21. Domination and Citizenship by fm6 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    You raise an important issue, and one that people don't pay enough attention to. However, it doesn't begin with Google. For a long time we've been seeing media conglomerates monopolize print and broadcast channels by buying up independent providers. They tried to do the same thing on the web by buying search engines and turning them into "portals". Fortunately, this attempt was a total disaster; unfortunately it destroyed some perfectly good search engines through mismanagement and loss of credibility. One reason Google took so long going public was their desire to avoid that kind of takeover.

    I'm not too worried about Google becoming the Microsoft of the Web. They've been good online citizens, and they've focused on facilitating access to other people's content rather than trying to create their own content monopoly. Still, it's only reasonable to keep on eye on their plans, and not assume that they'll always do the right thing. But for now, I find their entrance into new markets (and their astonishing financial success!) quite reassuring.

  22. My hope for Domains and Searches... by 955301 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I sincerely hope that google breathes new life into the locality domains for the US. The use of domains such as computers.boulder.co.us or flowers.boaz.al.us would do a lot for partitioning the flood of information that now exists on the Net.

    Imagine the possibilities of the supporting searches such as "pizza site:atlanta.ga.us". And actually getting pizza places in the area? Top that with a simple UI on Googles page and the ability to add your local to firefox's url box (typing pizza tries pizza.atlanta.ga.us first)

    If this becomes or is already a part of their plan, I'd pay a premium. The flattening of the DNS namespace is to me the second most tragic side effect of the Internet's adoption. The first of course being spam.

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  23. google local sux by OglinTatas · · Score: 5, Funny

    I did a search for horny Asian wives in my town, and it found squat.

    1. Re:google local sux by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 2, Funny

      You found Squat? Man, you're in for a treat. She's great.

  24. Re:I'll buy a Google Domain by gclef · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The other reason they may want to be a registrar is to avoid what happened to panix a few weeks ago.

    For those that missed it, panix.com got hijacked because a domain re-seller (melbourne IT) didn't check that their customer (the supposed recipient of the domain transfer) had the proper authorizations in place to request a registrar move for panix. Panix had (apparently) forgotten to request a registrar lock on their domain, and their registrar didn't protest the move, so the request went through, moving panix to a new registrar. Once it was moved (changing ownership in the process), changing the authoritative DNS servers for it was easy...hence, hijack.

    If google were their own registrar, they could enforce their own registrar lock for google.com, as well as setting up automatic refusals for any attempt to transfer google.com.

  25. You Can Also Text Google by ras_b · · Score: 4, Informative

    you can get definitions and local listings (and a few other services) by sending a text message to 46645 (GOOGL on most phones). Not totally worthwhile but i've used the definition feature to settle stupid debates with friends over words when no dictionary or computer was nearby. got my reply within like 30 seconds.

  26. The interesting bit is why... by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't imagine this has anything to do with MS putting a local search ("Near Me") on their new search.msn.com, would it?

  27. Google local is very useful by bigberk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't even live in a particularly large city, and I have been regularly using Google local to find businesses. If you're not really sure what it's for, here is what I have used it to find: nearest branch locations, taxi services, pizza order lines, etc.

  28. Google: Size doesn't matter? by xXunderdogXx · · Score: 4, Funny

    When will we know Google has gotten too big?

    1. Wal-Mart and Google merge to form a new country
    2. Google's CEO buys Canada
    3. Google employees start wearing more bling than most rappers
    4. Google TV starts broadcasting the Google main page 24/7
    5. When wearing Google underwear stops being cool

  29. Re:why not suggest? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think at the moment, putting the suggest on the main front page would put a large strain on the system.

    Granted its a strong network, but its certainly not invulnerable. gmail has knocked itself out a few times, and recently the DOS and associated splattering in the media took them off the map for a day ("clicky, "is it back up yet?", "dang! no", clicky, clicky, clicky, "nope, still not working")

    I guess one or two of the PHDs at google have crunched the numbers and found out how much bandwidth would be required/wasted for this very nice feature.

    There is also the thinking that using a dictionary search will increase hits on those sites listed in the keywords at the detriment to other possibly more relivant sites.

    I think the best compromise at the moment is the "did you mean xyz" suggestion for possible spelling errors after a search.

    For you, just change your homepage, then you get it always.

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  30. Google local + Keyhole? by cbrichar · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I'm still interested to see how Google makes use of Keyhole, a satellite imaging company that Google aquired a while ago.

    It'd be fairly slick to see those street maps generated by Google local make use of actual satellite imagery, wouldn't it?

  31. Size doesn't matter...Google Underwear? by Mr+Guy · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you have to do that much searching in your underwear, perhaps you should look into some of that stuff the spammers are pushing.

  32. gmail-o-matic by me+at+werk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When I saw my 50, I started handing them out to the gmail o matic, its easy, paste the address, invite, repeat. no fake name creation or clicking 'invite another', just keep pasting and hitting enter. its nice.

    eventually everyone will have one and they'll launch gmessenger.

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  33. People talking about google by SteveX · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I put together this site a while ago that tracks blog postings (for all major services that ping blo.gs), tries to parse out nouns, and then displays the top 100 nouns encountered in the last hour scaled by frequency.

    Google is almost always a big one.

    http://www.stevex.org/longtail/hottopics.aspx

  34. Shame... by generationxyu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just renewed my domain Tuesday. I'd have done it with Google if I could have.

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  35. The google-branded browser by glassesmonkey · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Anyone notice that some of the google spiders report like Mozilla User Agent strings. Could it be that Google plans to shift some of the marketshare through it's bot army?

  36. Forget Google by theycallmerenda · · Score: 2, Funny

    Home page is way too crowded now. Switching back to yahoo.

  37. Re:No change by generic-man · · Score: 2, Informative

    Depending on which Google machine served your search results, you sometimes get tracking URLs. Google uses them to keep tabs on what people find most useful in the search results, and they're a great way to get rid of search engine optimizers that flood listings with PageRank-friendly but useless links.

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