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Open-Source Technique for GM Crops

a_d_white writes "The Biological Innovation for Open Society has developed TransBacter, a new technique for creating genetically modified crops, which is being released as a BioForge project. Their license allows anyone to use and improve the technique as long as improvements are shared with everyone, à la open source. Other techniques for creating genetically modified crops rely on Agrobacterium, but this new method allows using bacteria outside this genus. The New York Times and Wired cover the story. The founding of BIOS was mentioned previously. Although the Nature paper is available from the BIOS website, with their emphasis on the free sharing of ideas it's rather ironic that the technique was not reported in an open-access journal."

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  1. Funding? by teiresias · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I understand BioForge is a place for scientists to collaborate but is it also a place for funding? Did the scientists who put together this article do so with funds from a University or (less likely) a corporation?

    If more of these papers are to come out, and I hope they do, the proper funding channels should be lined up since those who fund a research project tend to be very possessive about the results.

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  2. Bad license by Pan+T.+Hose · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Their license allows anyone to use and improve the technique as long as improvements are shared with everyone, à la open source.

    This is foolish. They should have released it under a free license for anyone except those who deny the same right to use their bio-patents. Otherwise certain scums are able to use this technique while not being forced to change their behaviour, hurting the industry, hurting the farmers, hurting the scientific progress, with no consequences. A perfect license should be useful for cross-licensing with proprietary patents portfolios but sadly this one while being certainly great in spirit is just too weak in its current form to achieve this goal. In the real world of patent sharks we need to fight a little bit harder.

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  3. Terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Seems like a way to introduce a harmful gm product as a weapon to destroy a nations food supply. By providing this information so readily it may make the job much easier. Especially as improvements to the techniques are made.

  4. Biodiversity by p373 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Does biodiversity mean a thing to any of you? Having one strain of GM corn dominate all of an an area's crops might be awesome when it comes to raising productivity levels and immunity to pesticides, but when an unforseen disease starts to affect the plants (which can happen a lot) they would be completely wiped out, because they are all the same. Nature does it better, lets not fuck around with it.

    Introducing GM plants to an area can be compared to introducing alien species to a place where they do not belong. There is no possible way to forsee all the negative impacts that could arise. Check out all the problems Australia has with feral animals, for instance. here

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    1. Re:Biodiversity by asoko · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My uncle is part of a small group of people who are experimenting a "new" form of agriculture, wherein you let nature do its job. You basically make it hard on the plants, by spreading diseased ones all over the field rather than removing them. Some plants die, but some survive.

      The end result is a crop that may not produce the best yield under perfect conditions, but it is so resistant to disease and weather that it ALWAYS produces something. It's basically the opposite of these engineered, single-strain crops that are used in many places.

  5. Re:Great for the third world, if only... by Gorath99 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If only the European nations would get a clue.

    GM crops have tremendous potential in regions such as Africa, where also, unfortunately, the governments are too afraid to use GM strains because they risk their agricultural exports with the hysterically-anti-GM nations (because of the fear of cross-polination).

    These developing countries can't even compete fairly with unmodified crops because of the unfair subsidies Western governments give their own farmers. Imagine that--taxing your highly advanced industrial complex and then using the money to artificially lower the prices of your products in one of the only markets that people of impoverished nations can compete in!

    How long is the developing world going to suffer because technological nations remain sentimental over their own agriculture?

    Right now a lot of slashdotters hope their government will do something similar for IT workers to stop outsourcing. Other industries already have such measures to protect them. IIRC the American steel industries are a fine example.

    That's just the way the world works. If you have something, you protect it, ethics be damned. Is it fair? Probably not. However, if you don't do it then people will lose jobs and that's not good for the elections.

    Who's to blame? The politicians who are really just listening to their voters or the people who fear for their jobs? Things aren't always right or wrong.
  6. Re:Great for the third world, if only... by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Interesting
    GM crops have tremendous potential in regions such as Africa

    As much as the potato in Ireland.

    Of course the Famine was a result of using an imported genetic mono-crop, but I also thinking of the change, across Europe, that the introduction of potato from the Americas after 1492 created. It allowed the production of a lot of food in a small area and was army/pillage/tax resistant. A mixed result; that extra food allowed a population increase available for colonizing abroad, but helped make areas like the Balkans such fractal hate zones. (Yep, the potato is the root of many problems. Sorry.)

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  7. Not in my backyard by howlin_walleye · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't think the analogy with open source software is quite right. After all, with OSS I have a choice - I download the software, .configure, make install and I have it. Then if it I choose I can delete it. With this stuff I can still choose whether I want to plant it or eat it, but I cannot choose whether my neighbor's GM'd tomatoes pollinate my tomatoes. I won't find out until I plant the resulting seeds next summer and WHOA! My tomatoes have deformed frog legs on them, but geez, they grow like the dickens in my cat's litter box! I'll leave them on the front porch - help yourself.

  8. Re:Great for the third world, if only... by dysk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just what the third world countries need is to become dependent upon GM crops, and then, ten-years from now have Monsanto decide to enforce all its patents.

    Just like with software, third world countries are best sticking to public-domain agriculture.

  9. Re:My own Genetics Lab by kiatoa · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you are ok with GM stuff then you should also be fine with the intro of non-native species. Why would one be ok and the other not ok? The same fundamental issue exists with both: the unintended consequences of introducing a species alien to this environment are unknown and predictions of "it'll be fine" are often wrong. Go talk to the Australians about introduced species and see if they agree that the human mind is up to the task, last I heard the problems were NOT solved. And yes, if it is genetically modified surely it is a new species!?

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  10. Re:FYI by mrogers · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It's more like using a GPLed compiler to write proprietary software - improvements to the tool itself must be released under the same license, but things built with the tool can be released under more restrictive licenses.
    Dr. Jefferson said that while users of the gene-splicing technology would be required to put any improvements they made into the common pool, companies and universities would be allowed to patent any products they made using the technology, like a genetically modified crop.
    I guess BIOS is at the stage GNU was at 20 years ago: first create the assembler, then the compiler, then the basic utilities, then the applications... hopefully someone will use your compiler (and your text editor) to write a kernel. :-) But I wonder how far GNU would have got if AT&T or Sun had had an army of aggressive lawyers brandishing software patents?
  11. Re:FYI by Otter · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I guess BIOS is at the stage GNU was at 20 years ago: first create the assembler, then the compiler, then the basic utilities, then the applications

    Well, that's my point -- the novelty here (besides the method itself, which is impressive and new) is the use of open-source terminology, not the free (by Stallman-approved usage of "free") availability of a molecular biology tool. The emphasis on IP issues here has given most of the readers a wildly skewed impression that public domain methods, tools and data are the exception in research, not the norm.