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Images of Ocean Floor Show Effects of Tsunami
Iphtashu Fitz writes "This week the UK's Royal Navy presented images taken by the survey ship HMS Scott of the damage to the floor of the Indian Ocean that triggered the tsunami two months ago. The Scott has a high-resolution multi-beam sonar that let it generate highly detailed images of the sea floor, some 200m to 5000m below sea level. An image showing the scale of the damage, and the full presentation made by the Commanding Officer of HMS Scott (38MB PowerPoint) are available. The presentation contains a number of images that have more detail than those available on the websites."
Download the Powerpoint through Dijjer by clicking here.
The tsunami evidently took out the royal-navy's servers as well =\
Linking to a 40meg powerpoint file. I can smell the server burning from here.
Why in the world would some sadistic person put up a 37 MB power point presentation on slashdot. Damn you must hate the home office. Well it still downloading strong for me at about 87KBs
Timothy
I hope the British readers here didn't have any urgent business with the UK Hydrographic Office site!
What I'm listening to now on Pandora...
I wonder what kind of effect this damage has had on things like Coral Reefs and deep ocean habitats surrounding black smokers?
... and in the DRM, bind them.
Fitz just linked a 38 megabyte file from the front page... does this mean that slashdot just declared war on the U.K.?
~UP
Eat the Path.
the UK Royal Navy website was completly destroyed by the Slashdot Tsunami
By reading this, you have given me brief control of your mind.
damage to the floor of the Indian Ocean
BZZZT! The surface of the earth cannot be damaged. Changed, yes, but not damaged. Unless you're suggesting that we need to get back to Pangaea somehow.
Look, there are natural tectonic processes that have been going on for as long as the earth existed. Volcanoes and earthquakes are CONSTANTLY reshaping the surface of the earth. THIS IS NOT DAMAGE. This is normal behavior for the ecosystem.
Next we'll be hearing that the predator/prey relationship needs to be banned because it damages animal populations, or that animals need to poop more because the coprophilic bacterial populations are abnormally low.
Images of Ocean Floor Show Effects of Tsunami
I think people really really like saying "tsunami". Too bad most don't even pronounce it the right way.
The floor was not the effect of the tsunami, it was the effect of the earthquake, of which the tsunami was also an effect.
See, I like saying "tsunami" too!
tsunami. tsunami. tsunami.
For god's sake did anybody running this site really think that a direct link to a 38 meg ppt wouldn't bring down that server?
Can someone please reply with sites that are like slashdot but not run by monkeys?
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Thinking about it scientifically, along with the terrible loss of life in this event is incredible.
To me, this is a huge reminder that the planet in itself is capable of incalculable (in terms of lives affected) violence. And also that there will be in due time, something comparable. Or worse.
And to think about the squabbles we have, our territorial ambitions, our day to day lives, it really means nothing in the face of these kinds of forces.
Blacker than my baby girl's stare. Black like the veil that the muslimina wear. Black like the planet that they fear...
NEWS FLASH
British Royal Naval Communications brought to a halt today. Somehow a Naval Report on the latest Tsunami damage was linked to Popular IT Community Web Site SlashDot.org. The resulting Bandwith usage rates shot to am alarming rate, and crippled Data Communications to Royal Naval Forces, and forced the Royal Navy to respond, by issuing the following Statement. "Koh! Blimey! We've been knackered by the BOFHs'!"
My cat's picked up a Hammer. HEY! Put down that Hammer. Put Down that Hamm...THUNK!
Not only were the undersea landslides not the result of the tsunami -- they were the result of the causal earthquake -- but there's evidence to show that undersea landslides can be a major cause of tsunami. So these might help explain why the tsunami was/were so devastating.
A 40 MB file on the front page. Way to go douchebags, thanks for taking our server out. Here's the text of the article:
The Royal Navy's survey ship HMS Scott has collected unique images of the Indian Ocean seabed in the vicinity of the devastating tsunami earthquake epicentre.
The work, announced last month by the Ministry of Defence, is being carried out in order to further the understanding of earthquakes and assist prediction of such events in the future. It will be of considerable benefit to the Asia region as a whole and potentially give a global perspective.
HMS Scott's tasking is a non-military role that will provide bathymetric ( measuring the depth of water ) and geological assessment of the Asian earthquake epicentre and extended fracture zone. To assist with this, scientists from the Southampton Oceanography Centre and the British Geological Survey have embarked in the ship.
The depth of water in the vicinity of the epicentre varies between 200m to 5000m which is well within HMS Scott's capability using her high-resolution multi-beam sonar.
The epicentre lies within the Indonesian Exclusive Economic Zone, and the survey itself follows discussions with the Indonesian Government about HMS Scott's potential value in furthering the understanding of the earthquake and future risk prediction. The survey falls under the definition of Marine Scientific Research under United Nations Convention on Law of the Sea (UNCLOS).
Survey imagesHMS Scott's survey will provide the 'base map' for future extensive research into the process of how earthquakes work; this is a crucial moment to conduct such research.
While HMS Scott is not directly involved in the humanitarian relief effort, her survey work in the vicinity of the epicentre is of significance to the scientific community in furthering the understanding of the tsunami.
HMS Scott deployed from the UK in November 2004 in order to undertake a programme of work in the North Atlantic, Arabian Sea and Indian Ocean and is scheduled to return to the UK in June 2005.
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From TF(/.d)A:
The collision has forced up spectacular large thrust ridges up to 1500 m high...
New ridges nearly a mile high?!? Well, that certainly explains the little wave it made...
I'll turn into a supernova and burn up everything. Well I'll turn into a black little hole and you'll turn into string.
This is getting ridiculous. Why does Slashdot continue to post stories with direct links to massive files that are hosted on sites that will obviously be killed instantly, once users start clicking the link? Would it be too much to ask to begin mirroring the files, or provide a torrent?
These stories that reference some outside source are useless half of the time, because the source instantly becomes unavailable for a few hours until some new story comes up. It's getting really old.
Images of Ocean Floor Show Effects of Tsunami
The damage to the ocean floor was a result of the cause of the tsunami - not the effect thereof. Tsunamis do not damage the ocean floor until they get into very shallow water (i.e. the coastline).
I've made up my mind and now I've got to lie in it.
The India tectonic plate, one of the most mobile in recent geologic time, slipped underneath the southeast asia one causing a major uplifting, which caused the tsunami. A relatively unusual geologic cause of a tsunami. Original reports where that some areas fell by 2000 ft, which would be quite remarkable and a bit of an exageration.
So long and thanks for all the fish . . . !!!
Bullshit.
Didn't you see the news YESTERDAY where Bush tripled his funding request to Congress for tsunami aid to $950 million?
Oh, wait. You were too busy bashing the U.S. to let a simple thing like hitting news.google.com (where it was a top story in it's category for most of the day) get in your way.
Learning HOW to think is more important than learning WHAT to think.
Slashdotters' guns were aimed and requests were comin' fast,
The first link hit the website, they knew she couldn't last,
That mighty Naval server room is just a memory,
"Avenge the Bismarck" was the battle cry, sent over TCP.
We found the freakin' powerpoint that's makin' such a fuss!
We slashdotted the website 'cause the world depends on us!
It hit the front page runnin, when we spun our browsers 'round,
Yeah, we found the Royal Navy, and then we shut 'er down!
With apologies to Johnny Horton's Sink the Bismarck, 1960, and those who served aboard both the Hood and the Bismarck.)
I'm sure the reduced media coverage is why President Bush asked Congress to approve $600 million in new money for tsunami relief. That was... Wednesday: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/09/tsunami.aid/index .html
The lack of media coverage is just because nothing new is happening. The event has happened, and now the affected areas are entering a long rebuilding process. We're still helping them. It's just not a new story anymore. There's a reason it's called the news.
I have seen the future, and it is inconvenient.
Please. The American media may have plenty of problems, but its hardly to blame for the lack of attention being paid to Sudan. It's been going on a long time, and the media occasionally tries to bring it up again. The fact is we just don't care about what happens in Africa. Maybe if a few members of the British media (or someone else we actually relate to) wander in there and get massacred, we'll pay some attention. But the tsunami isn't to blame. If it wasn't the tsunami story that took precedense over the Sudan story, it would have been something else. Perhaps what Britney Spears had for breakfast, for example.
A tsunami has been detected approaching the coasts of Greenland and Iceland from the East. Geologists suspect this tsunami is due to the plunging of the entire uk.gov webserver complex into the atlantic ocean and a very high velocity.
Did anyone happen to get the entire presentation and have a torrent up somewhere?
Many Canadian charities havce stopped accepting tsunami relief donations. The Canadian Red Cross claims to have enough money to sustain their activities in the region for ten years.
Today the British Navy abandoned the gulf and turned its ships and nuclear submarines onto the Slashdot editing team. An initial force of Special Boat Service (SBS) forces was expected to take out the chain of command before a period of continual bombardment by artillery, missle and aircraft.
A spokesman from the British Navy said "right that's it, we've left the buggers alone since 1812 but that does it."
In related news Slashdot is being re-hosted from Camp Delta, along with any remaining members of the editing team.
An Eye for an Eye will make the whole world blind - Gandhi
Besides all the other posts, I seem to remember the US being told to "go home, we don't want you here" by some governmental agencies over there. Makes me wonder why we trippled our aid . . .
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Heh.. I was going to make the same comment but you got it first.
When a tree grows out of the ground, it pushes soil aside -- would you then describe the ground as "damaged?" Is the moon damaged because it has craters?
The word "damage" is only meaningful in the context of human activities. As you succinctly stated, this is change, not damage.
I wouldn't say it's not damage, I would rather say that it's this type of damage is just a normal part of the Earth's processes. It's still damage, although I understand your point that that is probably too abstract for Joe Public to grasp by him/herself, and so the term is misleading to the public, who only think of damage in purely negative terms.
Next we'll be hearing that the predator/prey relationship needs to be banned because it damages animal populations
Similar but true: For a long time people thought that forests and other ecosystems such as grasslands and vynbos should be "protected" from fires, because it "obviously causes damage", or so people intuitively thought. This causes problems such as excessive amounts of flammable material building up on forest floors, making fires far worse when they do occur, and complicating necessary natural decomposition processes. More importantly, fires have been burning in these ecosystems for so long that the plants and animals have evolved to in some cases require them to occur, for example some types of seeds will only germinate once they have been burned or smoked. Nowadays the focus is usually on better management through controlled burnings so as to avoid the burnings causing problems for human activities.
As with all complex systems, the natural world is not always intuitive. Also, wanting to protect nature and *understanding* nature are two different things. The problems stem from incomplete knowledge (as with global climate change). The answer is always more knowledge.
Hopefully it works, it's my first. Max upload (30KB/s)
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yo whack-o-jack-o,
He wasn't bashing the US rather he was being a little critical of the US media which in my opinion, not only needs a little ribbing, but also a full on figure-four-leglock. And maybe a few kicks to the skull for good measure.
If being critical of the US media makes a person an american agitator , then forward my name to the committee of Un-American Activities.
btw, i find your username particularly ironic in contrast to the tone of post. back to the quaaludes for you, baby.
Nearly a billion dollars is pathetic?
How much have you PERSONALLY given to the cause? And then, can we see how much you have spent on other, not-necessary expenses?
If you want to cast stones, one should be ready for the return volley.
See my journal for slashdot ID's by year. Mine created in 2005. http://slashdot.org/journal/289875/slashdot-ids-by-year
Also, a big monster with a head like an squid is walking from there to Tokio. Press there don't know if call it Godzilla, or if they must call Godzilla to save them.
How much have you PERSONALLY given to the cause?
I PERSONALLY gave hundreds of dollars UNWILLINGLY for the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
...as if millions of slashdotters all posted the same joke about the Royal Navy's web server going down. I fear something terrible has happened.
More information and pretty pictures available from NOAA's Web site: http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/tsunami/indo20041226/hms_ scott.htm
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Whether or not the money is sufficient, the fact remains that we're willing to spend 1000 times as much money per capita on war as on humanitarian activities. No matter how you slice it, there's something wrong there. Iraq is not like World War II which had to've been won at any cost.
My argument about your personal giving is valid. If someone doesn't but their money/actions where their mouth is, then they are generally not worth listening to.
I didn't say it was an invalid argument, merely that it's silly because I could simply lie and tell you I donated $1000 personally and you'd have no way of checking. So what's the point in telling you whether I've donated? You can conveniently claim I'm just making it up.
For those without a torrent client there is a mirror of the powerpoint file here.
LiveScience report that a new analysis of the December earthquake that caused disastrous tsunami waves to strike Asia and Africa. The report finds it was three times more powerful than earlier measurements suggested. This would make it the second largest earthquake ever instrumentally recorded...
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I too did not vote for Bush. In fact, you could say that I voted against Bush. This doesn't mean I believe everything he does is wrong. In regard to the tsunami relief effort, I feel we are doing a good job. Now this isn't one of those "America is the most generous countries in the world" posts. We had our soldiers flying in on relief missions and we stayed around providing drinkable water and food to people. We've also worked with other countries to help with the long term reconstruction.
Some people will say we are not spending enough no matter how much we spend. Sure Iraq was a war of choice -- it was also a war I opposed. Once we made a commitment there as a nation we had no choice to follow through with that commitment. Iraq is our obligation at this point.
What happened to the people effected by the tsunami is tragic. Of this there is no question. However, our obligation there is not the same as our obligation in Iraq. In many ways it is pointless to compare the two situations.
When peole bash Bush, just to bash Bush they loose a lot of credability. If you want to criticize his private social security accounts thing, hey there is a lot to support your critizism. Fell free to criticize how he handled the occupation of Iraq. I personally think he fucked that one up. However, if you think everything he touches turns to poo, you're just going to be considered a left leaning extremeist.
-- john
http://www.k33bz.com/slashdot_come_kill_me/Earthqu ake_presentation.ppt
The Joint Academic Network also pays per unit of data transferred over the transatlantic link. You've just bankrupted them!
On a slightly more serious note, I think the fact that Slashdot can bring down some fairly beefy servers demonstrates that there is a fundamental flaw in the architecture of the Internet. Slashdot is "popular", but not overwhelmingly so. I don't think I've ever seen a topic go above a few thousand posts and it's very likely many people posted more than once. Slashdot's total circulation is probably in the 5,000 - 7,500 bracket. In comparison, a typical British broadsheet might be read by 175,000 people. Give Slashdot 30 times the readership, and admins of even the most powerful sites would cower in terror.
Network overload is not confined to the realms of Slashdot, however. The tsunami early warning system is to be placed in a highly active region. There may not be many real tsunamis, but there will be a great deal of information flooding in. Unless those monitoring and administrating the system have a reliable and effective means of filtering out what is useful and what isn't, they'll either be causing a panic on a daily basis, or blithely ignore the next catastrophe as it unfolds.
Raw information is like raw chicken - hazardous in that state, but beneficial when correctly processed.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
You are one sick fuck.
Sounds like somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning!