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The AT&T Archives Post-SBC Merger?

mrfantasy writes "An article in the Newark, NJ Star-Ledge discusses the possible fate of the AT&T Archives, which is a huge, irreplaceable historical repository of most of the advancements of late 19th and 20th century communications. Corporate archives are often casualties of companies when they are subsumed by a parent organization. The archives include such things as long-distance telephone directories from the mid-1890s, containing every long distance subscriber in the country, including Alexander Graham Bell himself; and a microphone from Warren Harding's 1921 inauguration, the first heard by the crowd thanks to AT&T amplification equipment."

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  1. Dumpster? by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's the 21st century.
    We have eBay now.

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  2. From an 1890 by racecarj · · Score: 5, Funny

    Alexander Graham Bell's Phone Number: 1

    1. Re:From an 1890 by earthforce_1 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I heard dialing was an invention by a funeral home operator, who was wondering why his business seemed to be getting worse for some reason, and his upstart competitor was doing so well. As it turned out, the wife of his competitor just happened to be the town's telephone switchboard operator.

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  3. Corrections by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Firstly, it's the "Star Ledger", not the "Star Ledge"; secondly, it's AT&T, not AT&aT. What's with the editors these days?

    1. Re:Corrections by Apreche · · Score: 5, Funny

      not AT&aT

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  4. SBC is still a Bell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Although possible, I find it unlikely that SBC would not value AT&T's heritage as much as, and as part of, its own. It is a Bell operating company after all, with many veteran execs from the Bell system of yore. It may even use the AT&T name after the merger.

    1. Re:SBC is still a Bell by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Informative
      They didn't seem to give too much of a shit about preserving SNET's history when they bought them up back when I used to work there. Wasn't too bad when they were calling us "SBC/SNET"; that I could live with. But then they dropped it completely...bleh.

      What history? They dropped the name. BFD. Southern New England Telephone co. was basically the first RBOC, but so what?
      Oh yeah, being "first" is a rich and voluminous history; and all that history was destroyed when SBC dropped the SNET from its name locally. [/sarcasm] In the case of AT&T here, were talking physical history (e.g. original antique phone books). Company names are (at best) just tradition.

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  5. Great Case for a Museum by jacksonyee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This archive by itself would be a great museum based upon the things in it that the article mentioned. Of course, someone would have to organize the collection and hire staff to maintain the buildings, but it's a shame to see our history not being put to use. Some of the stories and innovations here could serve as inspiration to our kids and current researchers much the same way that the moon landing and Hubble telescope did for some of our generation. If they setup a building with the highlights and charged a modest price for admission, it would be far better than letting these memories go to waste.

    1. Re:Great Case for a Museum by ahbi · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, here is an idea.

      Why don't we create a national museum or series of museums to house and display things relating to our national history or just cool things in general.

      You know we could put the museum(s) in a central location. Like the nation's capit[a|o]l.

      Maybe we could get some really wealthy person to donate money for the museum(s). We could be nice and name the museum(s) after that person.
      Hell, I beat the guy could even be a British scientist. Congress could be a big help here.

      And since it is a government sponsored museum, entry could be free, or a nominal charge.

      Someday the museum(s) could grow to be the largest museum complex in the world. They could function as "an establishment for the increase & diffusion of knowledge."

      Yeah, that would be great.

    2. Re:Great Case for a Museum by whizistic · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Having been at the San Francisco SBC museum a few weeks ago, (located in the Bell building at 140 New Montgomery, open 10AM-2PM Mon-Thurs) I can candidly say it sucked elephant nuts through nanopore straws. The volunteer mentioned that most of the good stuff went to the archives when a consultant curator came through and turned it into a museum rather than the collection of interactive exhibits it was before. It used to be cool, now it's basically a couple phone books from 1919, a princess phone, and half a frame from 1936. So, yes, SBC == Slash and Burn Corporation.

  6. They've Gutted Everything Else... What's Left? by Black-Man · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I worked for AT&T, one could go to Murray Hill and it would be an educational experience. No "business requirement" needed. It was like a university setting where one went to learn from the masters.

    Now... the masters are gone. The company as it was is gone. Who cares?

  7. SBC-AT&T merger? by goon+america · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why should AT&T lose its archives because it's merging with SBC? Before "SBC" became a referent-less corporate initialism, it used to stand for "Southwestern Bell Corporation", a company formed by carving it out of AT&T due to anti-trust litigation. They had always been the same company, just taking a 22-year trial separation.

    (Oh, and how much public time and money was spent splitting up AT&T only to let the pieces gradually merge back together, like the re-heated T1000?)

  8. family guy quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Scene: 19th century, A Telephone rings

    [Voice on phone]: "Hi, is this 7?"

    [Guy]: "No, this is 3!"

  9. They can't... by MSDos-486 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    because pre-1982 SBC history was AT&T history. Kinda funny how the student became the master

  10. It'd be a shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    My first summer job in high school was at the Warren AT&T archives. I wound up staying on for 4 years

    The archive is a treasure trove of hardware for sure, but there are an incredible number of technical papers and photographs as well; Bell and Watson's lab notes while developing the phone, research notes on the development of the transistor and the Lab's UNIX flavor and more. David Korn's research notes on Ksh development or Arno Penzias' reports of his accidential verification of cosmic background radiation might be of interest to some /. collectors should the whole lot end up on the auction block.

    The place is crazy. It's not just the History of AT&T, it's the Great Library of information technology. Hopefully SBC will see it that way too. Last I heard, they had completed indexing and uncrating over 9 miles of paper case files (researcher's project notes) from the 1890's to 1980's. The number of talented scientists who spent their lives at the Labs helping create the IT infrastructure you're soaking in is astounding. As a research lab supported by a monopoly utility, they had unprecedented resources to explore all kinds of ideas. It's all there. Neat stuff.

    One of my favourite pieces was a 1960's prototype for an operator's uniform. Very Star Trek:TOS. Ohura's uniform in gold lamee. Some Suit thought it might be a good idea to have all the operators (almost entirely female at the time) wear uniforms, and this is what they came up with.

    But I'm waxing philosophic. SBC will save the tech documents at least, to protect the intellectual property they're buying with the hard assets. As for the old phone booths, recording equipment and videophone prototypes, maybe they'll end up in private collections or museums. Either way, hopefully more people will get to see and appreciate them.

  11. FUD by chowbok · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's no story here. The reporter has no reason to think this will happen. Nobody with either company has said the archives will be thrown out. AT&T's former archivist thinks SBC is good about keeping archives. SBC's spokesman says they keep archives. Some professor somewhere says, with no evidence at all, that they'll throw it all away, and that gives a bored reporter a hook to hang a bullshit story on.

    Calm down, they'll keep it or give it to a museum.

  12. Somewhere in the pile of paper... by bjbest · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... deep, deep, inside, is a copy of the infamous ( mythical ? ) issue of the Bell Technical Journal that described the operator-assited long distance dialing mechanism, and how easily it could be defeated. It gave rise to the "phone phreaks" and "blue box" devices in the 1960's, and rest is hacker history.

  13. Calling all Mormons by smchris · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Phone books are one way to supplement geneology. One of my great-great grandfathers had a home phone in the 1890s.

  14. Re:Amazing story if true... by mattdm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Interesting. But your link has (at least) a factual error of its own -- Edison's electric chair didn't use DC. His own systems used DC, and he wanted to show that Tesla's AC was horribly dangerous -- so, basically, he made the thing run on AC as a marketting ploy.