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Preparing for the Broadcast Flag?

Couch Potato asks: "I'm worried that, come next July, the FCC mandated broadcast flag will soon take away all sorts of fair use rights I have long enjoyed. Given that there are only a few months left to make purchasing decisions, how best can one prepare for the advent of the broadcast flag?" "I'm somewhat aware of projects like Myth TV, but it's not all that I want. Specifically, I want to make sure that I can record DVDs or similar files of any program I want off of cable, sattelite or broadcast TV, flag or not and without any other encumbering restrictions (such as the Macrovision DRM for DVDs) and without worry that someday they'll change something so that my old drivers and hardware are suddenly obsolete and useless when faced with updates to the formats. Note that this makes closed-source-only drivers an issue, because assuming the hardware can still be adapted to whatever they change on us, open-sources drivers can be modified and closed-source ones probably won't be, whether for legal or practical considerations. So then, what can someone with a modest budget do to make sure that their constitutional fair use rights don't succumb to planned obsolecense, like the VCR has?"

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  1. Similar question... by DanThe1Man · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While on the topic, does anyone know if I buy a HD tunner card now, before they become extinct in July, if it will even work after the flag is issued?

  2. Hmm.. by modifried · · Score: 4, Interesting

    .. buy from Canada? :)

  3. The 4-step "Who cares, TV sucks" program by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Step 1: Understand that 99.9% of shows on TV are crap anyway.
    Step 2: Cease to care whether or not you can legally record them.
    Step 3: Cancel your cable/satellite service.
    Step 4: Download the 2 or 3 shows you really enjoy watching.

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    0 1 - just my two bits
  4. Packet sniffer/transformer by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I wouldn't fret it too much. The same folks who brought you "free cable" and "free satellite" are probably going to also provide a little box that takes raw signal in, flips the "evil bit", and sends a pure pirateable stream to your DVR.

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    "Learning is not compulsory... neither is survival."
    --Dr.W.Edwards Deming
  5. Stop time by Ih8sG8s · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You could try to stop time, progress and technical evolution. That way, your shiny new equipment will never become obsolete.

    Sorry, that's a small jab. We can't predict what the future will bring. I can tell you this though...

    If you want to be able to do things with bits that the powers that be try to stop you from doing, your best bet will always be had in the hobyist (read free software / oss) areas. This is because companies who want to compete and cooperate to get your money will b forced to play by the rules imposed by those would deny digital rights. Individuals will not bend to this, so the free stuff, while admitedly slower on the curve, will be your best bet, if freedom is your motivation. This means invest in your PC.

    If you want digital input to your TV, go over DVI, but be sure that any set you look at will play non DRM encoded stuff. I believe the MPAA is attempting to mandate the broadcast of digital signals in a format which will limit rights. There are two types of digital interface on a television. My memory is sketchy here, I bought my set over 18 moonths ago. I do know though that there are a couple of different interface/protocol types, some of which use only the protocol which the MPAA is trying to define (in their favour). Be careful of that.

  6. Re:Write Some Letters by DataPath · · Score: 5, Interesting

    To excerpt from an article posted on BetaNews:

    Two of the three federal appeals court judges from the District of Columbia scolded the Federal Communications Commission Tuesday over what they saw as an overstep of the agency's authority given by Congress. The reprimand came in response to the FCC's ruling on the "broadcast flag."

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    Inconceivable!
  7. Re:Write Some Letters by kmartshopper · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Obviously you're not from the US... when is the last time the public actually stood up for their rights? How about when people were able to come to an intelligent decision? I'd say it only happens every hundred years or so... hell - it even took a massive fight between two large groups of people to decide something as simple as the idea of equality between two separate groups of people. Good luck convincing soccer mom's that freedom of speech has a purpose. Why not take away their SUVs while we're at it?

  8. Screw them. by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yes, I did buy a pcHDTV2000 card, more on general principles than anything else, but my overall attitude on the broadcast flag can be summed up in two words:

    Screw them.

    If the broadcasters insist upon making me not the master of my TV, PVR, and DVD player, then I shall not consume their product - I'll read a book, I'll work on my car/computer/house/physique, and generally be better off than I am now.

    The manufacturers of HDTV sets aren't seeing quite the volume they want - guess what guys, if you continue to make things less friendly to the consumer they will not consume as much!

    Perhaps we shall see a rise of "GPL TV" - people creating shows for download (Considering the success of Homestar Runner, this may not be as far-fetched as we might think). Imagine - a Star Dreck^WTrek that has somewhat sensible science and stories! A rendition of Starship Troopers that is actually faithful to RAH's vision!

    But no matter what - if my TV does not recognize me as its lord and master, then it shall be summarily expelled from my castle.

  9. Re:The EFF is fighting the broadcast flag by Void_Ptr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

    This issue isn't a technicality but a very valid point with regard to legislation and powers delegated by the U.S. Constitution.

    Our goverment is (and should be) set up in such a way so that, when in doubt, the people have right of way.

    This is not only an issue of the FCC overstepping its authority, but a fundamental question of what the federal government can, and cannot do.

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    Friends help you move
    Good friends help you move Bodies
  10. Re:Ween yourself from the Toob. by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I too went years without the evil glowing box. At least three. In that time we didn't even own a TV. (My playstation was jury rigged into our ATI all-in-wonder card.)

    But then we had a kid. When your wife it stuck at home, it only takes a few weeks for her to realize that there is only so much going on on the net in a given day.

    Now, we did get satellite, and with it a DVR package. Fast forwarding through commercials, and being able to stockpile shows for days when I'm sick at home have eliminated my 2 major complaints about the tube.

    The stockpiling is important. Most of my favorite cable channels... ok who am I kidding... the only 2 channels I watch tend to run the interesting stuff in marathons, with a long dry season in between. While I only average a few hours of TV a week, having 8 episodes of Star Trek, and another 6 "Tales of the Gun" are really handy for being home with the flu.

    And having 5 or 6 hours of "Sesame Street" and "Jay Jay the Jet Plane" canned and ready to play is a life saver when you have a toddler. It means you can play their favorite video without it drilling your mind to the point you can recite the dialog by heart.

    And to be fair, she is evenly split between wanting TV, mom and dad time, and bringing a book over demanding we read it to her. If anything, she prefers the books.

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    "Learning is not compulsory... neither is survival."
    --Dr.W.Edwards Deming
  11. Re:Write Some Letters by tealtalon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wrote my rep in my ditrict. She wrote me back telling me tough shit in not so many words completely siding with the FCC. I may have the email still. It made me furious.

    http://www.house.gov/brown-waite/

    At least she won't vote for privitizing social security. The average age in this district IS 127. I bring it down a bit.

    http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/fl05_brown-wa ite/telescare.html I swear it wasn't me.

  12. Pirate TV? by eno2001 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here's a concept:

    1. We work hard on establishing a world wide WiFi network that isn't supplied or owned by ISPs, but is a collective non-profit organization.
    2. Set up multiple membership levels with different requirements:

    a. Standard users (just a regular WiFi access point to "catch the signal")
    b. Operators (a bridging WiFi set up that connects several neighborhoods together)
    c. Watchtower men (long range WiFi setups that can spam 20-50 miles to connect the Operators together)
    d. Publishers (Centralized content hosting for free media perhaps in partnership with Wikimedia and the like)

    3. Use this network to broadcast live and on/demand programming that is supplied and produced by any members

    Ideally, this should really be multiple assocaited projects. The primary one being the non-profit that organizes the members of this wireless network. The other projects would be focused on creating content publishing software that would make it easy for anyone to publish video and audio, as well as education on creating media.

    Barring any of that, a similar kind of network would probably grow tremendously if "Joe Average" learned that he could download the latest episodes of his favorite show using a WiFi peer-to-peer network...

    So which is it going to be corporate America? Do you turn every citizen into a criminal, or do we find alternatives to your crap?

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    -"...bad old ideas look confusingly fresh when they are packaged as technology" - Jaron Lanier (Digital Maoism on Edge.o
  13. Let hollywood fuck themselves... Who cares really? by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The broadcast flag is designed to control content due to the success of TV shows on DVD sales. Also factor in the nice high resolution broadcast quality versions you could be saving/recording instead of buying on HD DVD... :) They just dont want you to record what you've already paid for. And yes sitting through commercials during a tv show is paying for a tv show. Afterall, they dont get advertising money for tv shows if they didnt have our ratings numbers. Hey according to the FCC, Them's is our airwaves! ;) HAHAHAHAHA. As if fucking over the entire public wasnt enough for the FCC, spitting that bullshit back in our faces should have resulted in riots ;)

    I think the real shame is that as a result of this broadcast flag, Hollywood will simply fuel an entire underground HD-TV show swaping network on the internet.

    There will be 10x the amount of traded HD-TV shows being swapped online. There will be a huge demand for those who can provide recorded versions of your favorite tv show.

    Dont these companies realize that the more they squeeze the people, the more willing the people are to fuck them back?

    We're a country of rebelling bastards, its what we do best :)

    So let the corperations continue to own and control our government. It's nothing new. We've already lost that war years ago.

    Hollywood, say hello to the larger than ever, more elite than ever, more unstoppable than ever, and more right than ever... underground HD-TV show scene that you have created. Way to learn from the past, you fucking morons (hollywood).