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First Arrest Made in U.S. For Spimming

prostoalex writes "U.S. federal authorities have conducted the first arrest for spimming. Eighteen-year-old Anthony Greco was arrested for sending spam to instant messenger users of MySpace.com." From the article: "Greco had allegedly threatened to share his methods for spamming members of the group if MySpace.com didn't sign an exclusive marketing deal that would have legitimized the messages he was sending via the service."

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  1. Hmmmm. by coulbc · · Score: 4, Funny

    MySpace.com, soon to be MySpim.com?

  2. You mean to tell me by booyah · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sexybaby2592871 wasnt really the chick on that website she sent me to?

    You mean i gave my email address, password and credit card to some stranger? What type of place is this Intra-web and what type of a mess have I gotten myself into.

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    1. Re:You mean to tell me by Hellasboy · · Score: 5, Funny

      "A Moose wants my social security number? Sounds fair to me." -Simpsons 2005.02.20 (finally a good one)

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  3. Arrested for spimming or extortion? by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Greco had allegedly threatened to share his methods for spamming members of the group if MySpace.com didn't sign an exclusive marketing deal that would have legitimized the messages he was sending via the service."

    So, the spimmer isn't really under arrest for spimming, but for extortion. Right?

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  4. Hmmmm...Blackmail... by thewiz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, that's the ticket! Blackmail a company into making what I'm doing legit! Since I know they won't do the legal way I'll force them into it using blackmail!

    What logic! What stupidity! What a maroon!

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    1. Re:Hmmmm...Blackmail... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 4, Funny

      What logic! What stupidity! What a maroon!

      Yeah, you'd have to be stupid to be a maroon. Either that or mix red and purple and splash it on him.

  5. Gah. "Spimming"? by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...do we really need to go mashing old new words into new new words for every little 'Net-related derivation out there?

    It's stupidiotic, and it's getting irritannoying.

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  6. He wasn't arrested for Spimming... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Informative

    He was arrested for extortion.

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  7. The real question by SlayerofGods · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is would anything have been done if he hadn't attempted to blackmail the company. I personally doubt it.

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  8. Extortion is the biggie, not spimming by winkydink · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm betting the CAN-SPAM violation was thrown in for good measure. From another article on this: Anthony Greco, 18, of Cheektowaga, N.Y., was charged with violating the CAN-SPAM Act, threatening to cause damage to computers with the intent to extort and causing damage to a protected computer. If convicted of all three offenses, Greco faces a maximum possible penalty of 18 years in federal prison.

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  9. sample message by kevinx · · Score: 3, Funny

    sample spam message:

    To learn the secrets of how to spam like I am spamming you right now.
    Please send $25 to AnthonyGreco@myspace.com

    PS, if you do not send $25 dollars within the next 3 days I will be forced to spam flood you. Have a nice day.

  10. Luckily.... by GillBates0 · · Score: 3, Informative
    most IM clients let you restrict incoming IMs only to those originating from people in your Friends list. And most people (in my experience) aren't interested in receiving IMs from anybody outside the list (atleast those of us who use IM mainly as an alternative to phone calls to friends/relatives).

    IMHO until somebody figures out a way to spoof IM headers to make them look as if they're coming from somebody else, spimming is going to be far less of an annoyance than email spam.

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  11. Dangerous MIPS code? by Palshife · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wait, simulating MIPS assembly code is ILLEGAL?

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  12. Re:Gah. "Spimming"? by zerosignal · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just wait 'til you get 'spom' on your mobile phone.

  13. I hope he serves a long time... by rokzy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...and get's the shit kicked out of him regularly.

    there is no excuse for this at all.

    this is intentionally degrading other people's lives for you own greed. it is the (or my) definition of evil.

  14. Work For Spam by Rollsbot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's great that they finally nabbed a bad guy for spim (?). But why can't they do anything for all the spam in my inbox.

    I haven't even gotten any SpIm but I can't see how it's anywhere near as bad as spam.

    1) I don't store my IM's forever (I don't store them at all)
    2) I don't accept IM's from strangers
    3) IM's are synchronous. So, I won't turn on my computer to find 100 spims waiting for me.

  15. Best part: by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 5, Funny
    He was arrested upon arrival at Los Angeles International Airport last Wednesday....Greco had allegedly threatened to share his methods for spamming members of the group if MySpace.com didn't sign an exclusive marketing deal that would have legitimized the messages he was sending via the service. Greco believed he was flying to Los Angeles to cement that agreement with MySpace President Tom Anderson.

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    tanderson says: Okay. But you have to show up to sign an agreement.
    tanderson says: LOL
    h5<>0r says: 5W33+!1!!1 j00 r0X0R!
    h5<>0r says: w51+! y u l5ff1Ng @ me?
    tanderson says: What?
    tanderson says: Sorry, just remembering a Seinfeld episode I saw last night
    h5<>0r says: 0
    h5<>0r says: y3h t5t s00p n5Z1's funny
    h5<>0r says: 50, 1 sh0 uP on m0nd5y, OKBYU?
    tanderson says: Yeah, that's great
    tanderson says: You want a limo?
    h5<>0r says: 0 b0y r1LLY!!?!11?/
    h5<>0r says: U b3+!
    tanderson says: Sucker
    h5<>0r says: wa+?????????
    tanderson says: Sorry
    tanderson says: My granddaughter's here
    tanderson says: I was just offering her some candy
    h5<>0r says: 0h y5h candy's good
    h5<>0r says: w1ll 1 G3t b3nif3+ts/!??!

  16. Re:I'm not normally a spelling Nazi... by NarrMaster · · Score: 5, Funny

    but come on now, how frelling hard is it to spell "spamming"?

    How fucking hard is it to spell "fucking"?

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  17. Re:Freedom of Speech by Steve+B · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I hate getting spam/spim as much as the next guy, but at some point, aren't we letting our zealotry against spam erode the First Amendment?

    I picture you writing, a la the old Bart Simpson blackboard gag, "IT'S A PROPERTY RIGHTS ISSUE, NOT A FREE SPEECH ISSUE."

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  18. Re:Gah. "Spimming"? by Ooblek · · Score: 4, Funny
    Wow, and I hope they don't figure out how to access those appliances with Wi-Fi connections that are now available.

    Spam on the refrigerator screen - Spood.
    Spam on the toaster - Spoast.
    Spam on the ice cream maker - Spooge.

    Spooge?!? Now the pr0n industry has come full circle....

  19. Re:Freedom of Speech by rokzy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    pick a reason:
    1. this isn't "speech", it's blackmail
    2. this isn't "speech", it's advertising
    3. it's not about forcing him to stop, it's about not letting him force us to listen
    4. free speech doesn't cover costs e.g. you can't steal other people's paper to print your opinions on

    I think *YOU* are eroding the First Amendment by making it sound like anything you say is "speech" and should be covered, which is blatantly false and could lead some people to think the whole thing should be thrown out.

  20. Re:Freedom of Speech by geoffspear · · Score: 3, Funny

    "But your honor, the 1st Amendment protects my right to say 'Hey buddy, give me a thousand bucks or I'll burn down your house' to anyone I want."

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  21. Re:is spam a USA society problem ? by deft · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can someone please put the parent on the short list for torture; I'm too busy eating apple pie, bombing brown people, and devolving society right now.

    Thanks a bunch.

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  22. Re:Freedom of Speech by SquadBoy · · Score: 4, Informative

    The correct comparison is not to Larry Flynt and this is why teh First Amendement argument doesn't really hold water.

    The difference is really simple. Larry and the spammers/spimmers should both have the right to publish whatever they want to. But Larry has no way to, *force* me to view what he publishes. I have to get out of my chair, go to the store and exchange money to get it. OTOH spammers/spimmers both shove it down my throat. Thanks to fine tools like SapmAssassin and a very aggresive .procmailrc I manage to avoid most spam sent my way. I'm guessing it's slightly harder on a phone and of course most people don't know how to use those tools. The correct comparison is a salesdroid knocking on your door and if you don't answer trying to yell his "message" through the closed door. And that is not and should not be protected.

    In short the problem is not that the spimmers are saying the things they are saying. It is that they are forcing you to listen. Which is a bad thing.

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  23. Re:Gah. "Spimming"? by nacturation · · Score: 5, Funny

    Spam over IRC - Spirm.

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  24. Re:Spimming by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wow. Look, I know English isn't everybody's first language, but do you type with your feet? After "soonds luke some thong", "spim" starts to sound like Shakespeare.

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  25. Re:correct.... by soft_guy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Slashdot is so great. Its the only place I can think of where I can honestly get annoyed by repeated quibbling about the technical differences between extortion and blackmail.

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  26. Spim is not MSN Messenger by thundergeek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Spim is sent to that crappy service that was put into windows 98, but not enabled by default. Was put into 2k, ME, and XP, and enabled by default.

    It allows network messages to be sent via the Messenger Service.

    I used to work at an ISP in my area, we got calls all the time with those "Your computer will reboot" pop ups. We walked the user through disabling the Messenger Service (Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Services), then spent 5 minutes explaining that Messenger Service and MSN Messenger are two diferent programs. Finally, we wraped up the conversation by telling them to buy a firewall, or switch to our dsl service, and get a free router.

    I now use Messenger Service at work to tell end users that I need to install patches, and to please call me when they are at their computer. The service doesn't allow two way conversations (unless you know the command line).

    You can download programs that use this service, and even if the person DOES NOT have MSN Messenger, they will still get a pop up. Granted, they have to be exposed, or the firewall/router breached.

    So, when you read the rest of these replies, remember that MSN and Messenger are two diferent things. You can't "Block" Messenger adds, or "Only allow friends" messages. mater of fact, there is NO gui for Messenger.

    I think that if the company looks deaper, they will find that this guy wasn't using their IM service, but in fact was using a hole in the FW, and a service that is still active.

    No, I don't think this company has seen the last of this exploit!

    Later

  27. Re:correct.... by DaveJay · · Score: 3, Funny

    Slashdot: Blackmail for nerds, extortion that matters.

  28. Refrence by TiggertheMad · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yeah, you'd have to be stupid to be a maroon. Either that or mix red and purple and splash it on him.

    Your quip was quite funny, but I think it might have been a cultural refrence, and not a typo. In old Warner-brothers cartoons, Bugs Bunny would say things like, 'What a iggit, what a maroon!' to insult people. I think the joke was that he didn't say 'idiot' and 'moron', but 'iggit' and 'maroon', words that only an iggit maroon would mispronounce. Either that, or I'm an iggit maroon who is missing the real joke. I'd lay odds at fifty-fifty either way.

    (Dry, boring joke analysis over, you can wake up now.)

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