"how is that when the documents are going to be stored on a server that is only accessible online?" Why does it have to be either or? Why not let users store the documents wherever they want. Look at gMail as an example. You can store your email online or use POP3 and download them all. Hey, there's that whole thinking outside of the box thing.
"You've not often had to produce professional documents for presentations, formal responses, marketing information et al have you? Printing is far from simple and when you want to create the right impression its very critical." And you get such results from Microsoft Word? Everytime I've done anything where presentation was that important, I've moved to a professional program: Quark, Illustrator, Photoshop, PageMaker, etc. Word doesn't give you any wonderful control. If you think it does, you're disillusioned. We're talking office suite here not end all be all of all software. Word processors aren't that sophisticated.
"Riiiight, because when people are editing documents the first thing they always want is ads because it helps them concentrate so well on the content of the document. As for a free online suite attracting HUGE amounts of traffic... why hasn't Open Office over-taken MS Office yet?" Open Office is a cheap generic derivative of MS Office. You won't beat Mountain Dew with Mountain Mist. You need something new, different and innovative like Red Bull to do that. If you can't find a way to monetize a massive traffic flow, then there's serious issues. The type of people we're talking about is also normal consumers. Despite the general mindset, office workers aren't the only ones who use office software. Just look at college and high school students, I bet some advertisers would do anything to reach those audiences a little more. Consequently, they are the same group that wouldn't want to pay several hundred for MS Office.
"And as soon as the client edits the doc (with track changes on of course) I have to merge it back in using the superb online merge tool they will be providing... A slight challenge of course as this requires the tracking tags from the online document to match an export and import when a 3rd party has been editing it." Ummmm... if you just want your client to edit it, then all they really need is a web browser. That's one of the inherent benefits of online web apps, universal accessibility.
"Ahhh and now we have it... my PDA can already edit my documents when I wish it to, as can my smartphone, but now I understand, you aren't talking about any of this because its a sensible business idea (my point) you are just talking about it because you think it would be cool..." That's the same type of mentality people used to apply to the web in general. Why would I want my news online when I can get it easier from the newspaper or tv. Let's think about this: universable access, ease of use, and so forth.
"Its 2005 not 1998, cool doesn't cut it." Cool always cuts it. You're right I'm not talking about a business idea. I'm talking about a software tool that I want and would use. That's what software does. It solves information problems; it doesn't make business models. I seriously doubt that two Stanford college students had a business model when they developed Google to begin with, but you probably wouldn't have thought that was a good business idea either.
1) An offline app. If it runs online, it's super easy to run offline. Anyway, I just got my 8thGen broudband cell-phone/life-organizer. It was free. I was told by the salesman that I could get online from any planet in the solar system. Seriously, is there such a thing as offline anymore? Wait, that's what happends during a hurricane when the power goes out. Just went through that. We didn't do much office document editing.
2) Is printing really an issue? There's a million and one ways to solve this problem. Export to a format that you already can print in. PDF, DOC, or even HTML, but really printing should be a breeze.
3) Easy, anyone with a free online office suite would attract HUGE amounts of traffic. Monetize it in any fashion you wish. Following Google's approach, you'd prolly get relevant text ads on the side.
4) Ummm... Again that's why we have an open-standard. So, it can be opened by anyone, but it can even be easier than that. You could email the document as an HTML. You could export it as a DOC or PDF. Or for that matter, print it out and postal mail it (if your client doesn't have access to a computer).
5) The power on your desktop... That's for games, silly. Besides who said anything about getting online from your desktop. I was talking about using my phone, pda, new online gaming console, or my internet connected t-shirt (the same one you lost). Don't think so narrowly, it can cause tunnel vision.
It's funny. You think government would have lead the push for this, but instead it's the market-force pushing for it.
In the end, it's a smart move. It's always best to give the customer what it wants. They must have realized that DSL has more of a future than land lines. I'm betting we see competitors eventually follow. Land lines seem to be a dying breed.
Let me explain: The RIAA is evil. They want to destoy all that is good. Music is good. So, the RIAA has raped, pillaged, and burned music for years. Now, they're trying to ram it into the ground until it reaches hell and brings the world with it.
The RIAA will never do anything worthwhile or good. It will continue to suck souls out ot Americans until the Information Revolution has come to an end, and either everyone is dead or we've put a stop to their practices.
Except in this case, what they are doing isn't really spamming. The Wikipedia page actually does include valuable information on the topic of online poker.
Well, at least, I'm guessing it does. I haven't been to it myself.
It makes perfect sense to me. Everyone keeps saying that VoIP will be the end of the traditional phone system. So, what's everyone waiting on? Probably, a big company like Google get behind it and ensure that it's reliable, easy to use, and accessible.
What's more, imagine how valuable a Google ad would be if that ad resulted not only in a visit to your website but also a call to your business. Advertising has always been about getting calls; this makes it that much easier.
Where's eBay during all this? It seems like they have a vested interest, and this is one of those rare cases where a little bit of lobbying can do some good. Ebay should really look to squash bills like this quickly before they catch on in other states.
I guess I've been using a computer for too long because I have no use for desktop search tools. I learned to make folders and file my files appropriate a long time ago, and as a result, I never have to search for anything.
Don't get me wrong I installed the first Google Desktop Search, thought it was cool as hell, then never used it again. I just don't have a need.
I think you need to decide what you want to do (or what field you want to work in) and narrow your focus.
For instance, if you would like to work with websites (website management or SEO), getting a degree in marketing or communications would be an excellent option. Or on the other side, if you want to focus on web design possibly go for a fine art degree. If you want to do serious programming work, maybe look into a degree in mathematics.
All in all, I would say you are better off going for a master's degree in whatever area that you wish to focus on rather than getting a second bachelor's.
Actually, if it resides on the web, it doesn't have to syncronize with anything. You just use your cellphone, pda, computer, or whatever to access that page.
Not that I think Google is making a calender app. I anything, I think it would be a calendar search. It also seems likely that the nature of dynamic calendar sites set search engines into near endless loops on them
Maybe it's a bug and all this attention will have google fix it. Then, they'll see all the need for a calendar app/search and build it.
I did something like this on the back wall of my seventh grade art class, and I got in trouble for it.
Genious artist are always before their time. Ms. Stranugle, if you're out there, I told you it was art.
It's great that they finally nabbed a bad guy for spim (?). But why can't they do anything for all the spam in my inbox.
I haven't even gotten any SpIm but I can't see how it's anywhere near as bad as spam.
1) I don't store my IM's forever (I don't store them at all) 2) I don't accept IM's from strangers 3) IM's are synchronous. So, I won't turn on my computer to find 100 spims waiting for me.
Yea, I'd believe Microsoft was incapable of disappearing... if it weren't for a company called Enron. What about AT & T? Remember how big of a company they were 20 years ago, I heard that another telecom was looking to buy them out just for their name.
Big companies are just as capable of going out of business as anyone else.
Since Orbitz obviously has a problem with the way the web works, wouldn't a complete take down of their website be a better fix?
They wouldn't have to worry about the whole linking problem, and they could focus all their efforts on improving their other outlets to customers... They don't really want to present their customers with the whole web experience anyway.
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"how is that when the documents are going to be stored on a server that is only accessible online?" Why does it have to be either or? Why not let users store the documents wherever they want. Look at gMail as an example. You can store your email online or use POP3 and download them all. Hey, there's that whole thinking outside of the box thing.
"You've not often had to produce professional documents for presentations, formal responses, marketing information et al have you? Printing is far from simple and when you want to create the right impression its very critical."
And you get such results from Microsoft Word? Everytime I've done anything where presentation was that important, I've moved to a professional program: Quark, Illustrator, Photoshop, PageMaker, etc. Word doesn't give you any wonderful control. If you think it does, you're disillusioned. We're talking office suite here not end all be all of all software. Word processors aren't that sophisticated.
"Riiiight, because when people are editing documents the first thing they always want is ads because it helps them concentrate so well on the content of the document. As for a free online suite attracting HUGE amounts of traffic... why hasn't Open Office over-taken MS Office yet?"
Open Office is a cheap generic derivative of MS Office. You won't beat Mountain Dew with Mountain Mist. You need something new, different and innovative like Red Bull to do that. If you can't find a way to monetize a massive traffic flow, then there's serious issues. The type of people we're talking about is also normal consumers. Despite the general mindset, office workers aren't the only ones who use office software. Just look at college and high school students, I bet some advertisers would do anything to reach those audiences a little more. Consequently, they are the same group that wouldn't want to pay several hundred for MS Office.
"And as soon as the client edits the doc (with track changes on of course) I have to merge it back in using the superb online merge tool they will be providing... A slight challenge of course as this requires the tracking tags from the online document to match an export and import when a 3rd party has been editing it."
Ummmm... if you just want your client to edit it, then all they really need is a web browser. That's one of the inherent benefits of online web apps, universal accessibility.
"Ahhh and now we have it... my PDA can already edit my documents when I wish it to, as can my smartphone, but now I understand, you aren't talking about any of this because its a sensible business idea (my point) you are just talking about it because you think it would be cool..."
That's the same type of mentality people used to apply to the web in general. Why would I want my news online when I can get it easier from the newspaper or tv. Let's think about this: universable access, ease of use, and so forth.
"Its 2005 not 1998, cool doesn't cut it."
Cool always cuts it. You're right I'm not talking about a business idea. I'm talking about a software tool that I want and would use. That's what software does. It solves information problems; it doesn't make business models. I seriously doubt that two Stanford college students had a business model when they developed Google to begin with, but you probably wouldn't have thought that was a good business idea either.
All of these are easily (already) solved.
1) An offline app. If it runs online, it's super easy to run offline. Anyway, I just got my 8thGen broudband cell-phone/life-organizer. It was free. I was told by the salesman that I could get online from any planet in the solar system. Seriously, is there such a thing as offline anymore? Wait, that's what happends during a hurricane when the power goes out. Just went through that. We didn't do much office document editing.
2) Is printing really an issue? There's a million and one ways to solve this problem. Export to a format that you already can print in. PDF, DOC, or even HTML, but really printing should be a breeze.
3) Easy, anyone with a free online office suite would attract HUGE amounts of traffic. Monetize it in any fashion you wish. Following Google's approach, you'd prolly get relevant text ads on the side.
4) Ummm... Again that's why we have an open-standard. So, it can be opened by anyone, but it can even be easier than that. You could email the document as an HTML. You could export it as a DOC or PDF. Or for that matter, print it out and postal mail it (if your client doesn't have access to a computer).
5) The power on your desktop... That's for games, silly. Besides who said anything about getting online from your desktop. I was talking about using my phone, pda, new online gaming console, or my internet connected t-shirt (the same one you lost). Don't think so narrowly, it can cause tunnel vision.
It's funny. You think government would have lead the push for this, but instead it's the market-force pushing for it.
In the end, it's a smart move. It's always best to give the customer what it wants. They must have realized that DSL has more of a future than land lines. I'm betting we see competitors eventually follow. Land lines seem to be a dying breed.
Let me explain:
The RIAA is evil. They want to destoy all that is good. Music is good. So, the RIAA has raped, pillaged, and burned music for years. Now, they're trying to ram it into the ground until it reaches hell and brings the world with it.
The RIAA will never do anything worthwhile or good. It will continue to suck souls out ot Americans until the Information Revolution has come to an end, and either everyone is dead or we've put a stop to their practices.
Wouldn't it make more sense to make a voice controlled TV and not a voice controlled TV remote.
Except in this case, what they are doing isn't really spamming. The Wikipedia page actually does include valuable information on the topic of online poker.
Well, at least, I'm guessing it does. I haven't been to it myself.
It makes perfect sense to me. Everyone keeps saying that VoIP will be the end of the traditional phone system. So, what's everyone waiting on? Probably, a big company like Google get behind it and ensure that it's reliable, easy to use, and accessible.
What's more, imagine how valuable a Google ad would be if that ad resulted not only in a visit to your website but also a call to your business. Advertising has always been about getting calls; this makes it that much easier.
Where's eBay during all this? It seems like they have a vested interest, and this is one of those rare cases where a little bit of lobbying can do some good. Ebay should really look to squash bills like this quickly before they catch on in other states.
I guess I've been using a computer for too long because I have no use for desktop search tools. I learned to make folders and file my files appropriate a long time ago, and as a result, I never have to search for anything.
Don't get me wrong I installed the first Google Desktop Search, thought it was cool as hell, then never used it again. I just don't have a need.
I think you need to decide what you want to do (or what field you want to work in) and narrow your focus.
For instance, if you would like to work with websites (website management or SEO), getting a degree in marketing or communications would be an excellent option. Or on the other side, if you want to focus on web design possibly go for a fine art degree. If you want to do serious programming work, maybe look into a degree in mathematics.
All in all, I would say you are better off going for a master's degree in whatever area that you wish to focus on rather than getting a second bachelor's.
Actually, the marching band was there to keep the pilot awake throughout the landing process.
Actually, if it resides on the web, it doesn't have to syncronize with anything. You just use your cellphone, pda, computer, or whatever to access that page.
Not that I think Google is making a calender app. I anything, I think it would be a calendar search. It also seems likely that the nature of dynamic calendar sites set search engines into near endless loops on them
Maybe it's a bug and all this attention will have google fix it. Then, they'll see all the need for a calendar app/search and build it.
I did something like this on the back wall of my seventh grade art class, and I got in trouble for it. Genious artist are always before their time. Ms. Stranugle, if you're out there, I told you it was art.
It's great that they finally nabbed a bad guy for spim (?). But why can't they do anything for all the spam in my inbox.
I haven't even gotten any SpIm but I can't see how it's anywhere near as bad as spam.
1) I don't store my IM's forever (I don't store them at all)
2) I don't accept IM's from strangers
3) IM's are synchronous. So, I won't turn on my computer to find 100 spims waiting for me.
Yea, I'd believe Microsoft was incapable of disappearing... if it weren't for a company called Enron. What about AT & T? Remember how big of a company they were 20 years ago, I heard that another telecom was looking to buy them out just for their name.
Big companies are just as capable of going out of business as anyone else.
Since Orbitz obviously has a problem with the way the web works, wouldn't a complete take down of their website be a better fix?
They wouldn't have to worry about the whole linking problem, and they could focus all their efforts on improving their other outlets to customers... They don't really want to present their customers with the whole web experience anyway.