The 2005 Wired Rave Awards

smack-pot writes "March 2005 issue of Wired Magazine features The 2005 Wired Rave Awards announcements. The 15 categories include Films, Business, Science, Architecture, Medicine, Games etc. Some of the winners are Brad Bird for The Incredibles, Danger Mouse for The Grey Album, Burt Rutan for SpaceShipOne, and Pete Parsons for Halo 2."

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Rave Awards?

[Leroy_Brown242]

This years "Best use of glow sticks" award goes too . . .

Oh, not that sort of rave?

Jon Stewart

[fraudrogic]

I don't know. iFilms is great and all, but I think Jon Stewart should have won for Television. He did something (and continues to) that no one else on major television stations would dare do, and that is be brutally honest and be intelligent about it. When it comes to those qualities, he's my hero. Oh and the humor aspect is pretty good too.

Re:Jon Stewart

[PopeAlien]

Uh yeah.. especially since it was Jon Stewart that helped boost iFilms page views. Jon Stewart creates tv content, iFilms simply distributes clips of it.. It seems a strange choice for winner of the 'television' category.

Re:Jon Stewart

[Anonymous Coward]

Have you ever even watched the Daily Show? Virtually every episode since the elections has slipped in at least one joke about democrats sucking it up in the election, including making fun of Kerry directly and the party in general. Beyond that, what can he make fun of them for? They don't control enough to actually do anything stupid..

Re:Jon Stewart

[Illserve]

You know, the sad part is, I don't think he was embarassed.

I think he thought he tore Jon a new one.

I think he thought that this "comedian" was out of his league on a real hard-hitting news show.

At the end Jon just bites his tongue. It's like letting a child think they've beaten you because it would do no good to tell them otherwise.

Re:Jon Stewart

[RatBastard]

but he is definitely biased towards the left and has admitted as much.

Explain to me how admitting to being biased makes him less honest politically? I'm really trying to make that work but it just doesn't wash. Not being "brutally honest about politics" would be him not admitting his bias. I've watched a lot of his show and he has never hidden his bias nor has he pretended to not be biased, like many cammentators/journalists/pundits who are biased towards the right.

I don't know what word you want, but I don't think "honest" is it.

Re:Jon Stewart

[Deadstick]

Carlson's confidence may have suffered somewhat when CNN fired him and killed the show...

rj

Re:Jon Stewart

[bitrott]

Not even. The only legitimate question he asked was "Why the softball questions?". Anyone who watches the show KNOWS that NO guest, no matter their orientation, is going to get mostly softball questions.

Jon was dead-on-right questioning WHY that dork was trying to compare Daily Show to a legitimate news channel's programming.

Jon's attitude at the end of the interview was really just shock. He, like many people, realize that there's NO ARGUING with pedantic rhetoric dicks in bowties. It's like trying to argue there is no God with a person of faith. In fact, it's just like that. What can you do when the host won't even respond to simple, irrefutable logic, like "explain how BS talk shows like this HELP public discourse in America"?

Action Animation Movies?

[ackthpt]

Inability to put characters in jeopardy?

(resisting the joke about rendering Alex Trebek) I think anyone who says that is nuts, as nuts as the producers who need star-power to keep them warm at night. Bird just did the job right. There were some pretty insightful comments back in the Discworld movie topic, regarding writing a movie you can make. I become more a cynic when I read people's opinions that such and such can't be done. It's an illusion, dumbasses. Bird's gifted enough to take the intelligent approach. To see the wrong approach taken again, watch Tom Cruise in Spielberg's WoW. Or see a class act, the Pendragon version late March. Bug your theater to carry it! Hopefully it'll live up to expectations and make Wired's list next year.

wow

[rd4tech]

"Burt Rutan for launching the private space age"
I for one, welcome...

"Mark Fletcher for making bloglines the Internet's news network (RSS Reader)"
Neat, now more people can autocreate blogs targeted for adsense...

"Robert Lanza -for eye-opening work on embryonic stem cells"
See your future, it's right here ...

"Steven Squyres for keeping Spirit and Opportunity roving"
Where is the rest of Nasa on this one??? But that's humanity, always picking up one who holds the stick

The rest... boring, BTW there are also bunch of research in DNA, materials, and compsci which are changing the world arroung us constantly, why not mentioning anything of those fields?

grey album

[tsunamifirestorm]

for those who don't know, the grey album is a remix record using beats from the beatle's white album with vocals from jay-z's black album it's available at http://www.bannedmusic.org/ and is hosted by http://www.downhillbattle.org/. DJ Dangermouse was the DJ who made this mix.

Re:grey album

[_ph1ux_]

what about Skinny Puppy and Front 242 or Front Line Assembly...

All three of these have contributed orders of magnitude more than this guy.

Remix record using beats from the Beatles. How quaint.

Skinny Puppy is the most sampling band ever (actually I believe they were surpassed by the other two I mentioned), front line assembly being extremely deft at it.

and this was in the late 80's and early 90's.

I love how all these genre's and youngins attempt to take credit now for doing things that Industrial pioneered 15+ years ago....

suspect statement

[Savatte]

"Until The Incredibles, the conventional wisdom was that animators can't do action," Bird says.

umm..anime?

Re:suspect statement

[bitrott]

How can you even put Shrek in the same category as Toy Story? Because of the graphics? PLEASE, people. Toy Story and The Incredibles are amazing movies because they're good stories told well because BRAIN came before cheap pop-culture references and lame, embarassingly lame visual gags.

I've always maintained that Shrek doesn't even rate as a fine example of what animation is capable of, when 99% of the gags won't make sense to anyone in 5 years time.

winners

[Fox_1]

The Rave Awards

Film: Brad Bird : Business: Shigeyuki Hori

Science: Steven Squyres : Medicine: Robert Lanza

Architecture: Rem Koolhaas : Music: Danger Mouse

Television: Blair Harrison : Blogs: Kevin Sites

Books: Jeff Hawkins : Industrial Design: Burt Rutan

Technology: Mark Fletcher : Art: Jennifer Kevin Mccoy

Games: Pete Parsons

Is Danger Mouse that important?

[sielwolf]

I guess it's basic 15-second mainstream digestible keystone of mash-up'dom.

Of course this is old as hip-hop itself. Dancehall exists on the idea of a riddim becoming popular itself and multiple deejays rap/sing over it. Now hip-hop, R&B and Reggeton artists get in on it. An example from '04: Pitbull "Culo", Mr Vegas "Pull Up", Nina Sky "Move Ya Body" and many others all used the Coolie Dance Riddim.

The pop culture clash of using a very recognizable outer-genre instrumental (the "mash-up") got big in clubs two years ago (making this Wire award a bit like John Wayne's Oscar). A popular one was Whitney Houston ("I want to dance with somebody") over Kraftwerk ("Numbers") forming ala Voltron to Girls on Top's "I Want to Dance with some Numbers". Nigh unreleasable due to copyright considerations but interesting none the less.

Of course now MTV is in the Official Mash-up business by creating things that aren't Mash-ups at all (that Jay-Z and Linkin Park thing is, due to original parts by both artists, a collaboration).

I still think Chopped and Screwed is going to hit the mainstream consciousness soon as T.I.'s disc just got the treatment and it sold amazingly. And kids are chop n' screwing all sorts of tracks now. Many on laptops and then distributed into the public conscious via P2P (so Wired could give it an award and be a bit ahead the bellcurve). Of course this is a decade old style too.

Penfold, shush!

[RatBastard]

I prefer my Dangermouse to be animated and British, thank you very much.