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Face Recognition Comes to Cameraphones

An anonymous reader writes "If you have a camera phone, you may soon have to take a picture of yourself before making a call or accessing data stored on the device. A Japanese company has developed face recognition software for camera phones that it says can authenticate users within one second of clicking the shutter. Omron (Japanese) will demonstrate its Okao Vision Face Recognition Sensor at tomorrow's Security Show Japan in Tokyo."

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  1. Secure? by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
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    You'd think they'd avoid visible light and use IR or a combo to pull this off, though in IR we can also look different depending which end of the ski run we are on ...

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  2. How particular is the software? by erick99 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am wondering how particular the recognition software is. There could be some considerable day-to-day differences in a face if, say, one was ill, or had a bad fall, etc. Could I, for example, take a friends camera, take a pic of a good photo of my friend and then gain access to his phone/pda/device? The article didn't really address that though I don't think it was intended to be within it's scope. Still, it's something to think about.

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    1. Re:How particular is the software? by MyLongNickName · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yea. Those muggers always take the time to analyze your technology, realize that you need facial-recognition, then say "cheese, sucker".

      No security technology is foolproof. None. However, if it works as advertized, it is a nice security feature.

      Not that I use a cell phone... I don't want people to find me at the drop of a hat :)

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  3. Emergency Calls? by Fez · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But what if you have to call an ambulance after getting into a car accident that damaged your face? :)

  4. Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    What if you are having a 'bad face day'?

    1. Re:Hmmm by ThatsNotFunny · · Score: 3, Funny

      Shouldn't you be in court, Mr. Jackson?

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  5. Tinfoil by Crash24 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe it won't recognize me when I'm wearing my tinfoil hat...

  6. What about emergencies? by digitalvengeance · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is great - until you are in a car accident and are bleeding from the face.

    "I need to call [insert japanese equivelent of 911]."
    "Sorry sir, facial recognition failed."
    [Insert slow painful death]

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  7. Yeah! More Crap 4 My Phone! by geomon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I equivocate over the added features for cell phones. This is one that I can't see having too much impact here in the US. Face recognition for your phone? What for? To use my phone?

    What if I lose or gain a few pounds? What if I grow or cut my beard? What if I get a new girlfriend and she changes my "look" with a new 'dew?

    It is hard enough to get customer service for my phone as it is. I don't need to be locked out of my phone because I changed my diet.

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  8. Skeptical by Ironsides · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Omron claims that the camera need not be held in the same position each time, and that the sensor will detect the owner regardless of the location of the user's face in the frame.

    Given the current state of computers, I wonder how they can do this. If I take a picture of my face from the front right as a reference, and the next time from the front left, how will it stil recognize me? Same goes for a number of different angles. I'd also think that haircuts, glasses and a few other things could mess this up.

    Be interesting to see how well it works in the field instead of in the lab. Anyone here have access to Akibahara for when this is released?

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    1. Re:Skeptical by lacheur · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, they forgot to mention you have to tattoo a barcode on your forehead for this to work...

  9. 1 Megapixel by steve6534 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Considering that most camera phones are 1 MP, How accurate could this possibly be ?

    1. Re: 1 Megapixel by biglig2 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Perhaps they use that technology they have on CSI.

      You know the one, where they take a frame from a liquor store's video surveillance camera and blow up a reflection in the suspect's eye so much they can see a fingerprint on the hood of a car two blocks away.

      Man, I want some of that technology in my cellphone.

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  10. the failure of face recognition by andrewzx1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Face recognition has been tried in various places for law enforcement, Tampa Florida in particular. The cameras and recognition software failed to assist in a single crimimal being identified from 10'000's of images. This was a multi-year trial. This crap might work under ideal conditions but it fails utterly under any real world conditions.

  11. This is easy to hack... by stubear · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...and use someone elses cell phone. All you need to do is lob of their head and carry it around in a sack with you. When you need to make a call, pull out the head and snap a picture; free cell phone minutes.

  12. Tammy Faye Baker by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Or what if you are tammy fey? do you have to put on the same face every day?

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    1. Re:Tammy Faye Baker by mobby_6kl · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or what if you're Michael Jackson, and your nose just fell off?

  13. What they really need.... by GillBates0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    is Fist Recognition - to warn their owners of an incoming punch when they engage in obnoxious cellphone abuse in my presence.

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  14. Begins with 'G' ends in about 6 months by t_allardyce · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is such a pathetic gimmick, in 6 months no one will care about about it or be using it - how many people here even use voice dial? It doesn't even have a use to it, there is simply no problem with entering a pin number and facial recognition is simply not that good, even in good fixed lighting conditions with a good camera and lots of computing power its bad enough to be annoying, for security i give this about 3/10 - its better than setting your pin number to all zeros, usefulness is around 4/10 - maybe you could find some kind of novelty application for it? why wait 1 second when your pin number is checked instantly? why bother taking a picture when you can often tap yor keypad without even looking, why waste R&D on this when people really just want flat-rate fast net-access on their phones, to be honest.

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    1. Re:Begins with 'G' ends in about 6 months by QMO · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think that you're not understanding the market.
      The cell phone market isn't driven by utility. It's driven by gimmicks. There is no other way to explain people buying $20 (or more) worth of ring tones.

      The majority pay more for the new gimmick on the phone than they do for more bandwidth. The gimmicks are cheaper to develop. They are cheaper to introduce. And they are easily replaceable by the next gimmick, since they have no actual usefulness that needs to be maintained.

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  15. What? by KillerDeathRobot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do phones suddenly need biometric security devices?? As far as I'm aware, security isn't that big of a problem concerning cell phones. None or close to none of the current generation (or previous) of phones has much of any security like that, nor do many pda's I've seen.

    Most people don't keep a lot of really sensitive data on their phones, and phones aren't really remotely hackable like normal computers. Why all of a sudden do we need face recognition on them??

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  16. Barcode? by suwain_2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do you need a barcode on your face for it to work?

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  17. SO... by Anonym1ty · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How would this help? If I stole someone's wallet with their family picture in it, could I not then use the cellphone?

  18. Hmmm.. Another idea... by Garion911 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I want the facial recon to filter out calls.. Kinda like the firefox cookie blocker:

    1. Ed calls John.
    2. John's phone asks Ed's phone for a picture
    3. Ed takes a picture of his face.
    4. Ed's phone sends it to John's phone.
    5. John's phone does facial recon to determine if his face is in the whitelist, if so, then it rings.
    6. Otherwise forward to voicemail automaticly

    You could have various settings, like "Theatre mode" where it only rings if that person is on the emergency list.. "Ex-Girl/Boyfiend" mode, where it just forwards to "this number has been disconnected"

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  19. How hard to fool? by Jtheletter · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article was extremely brief and didn't mention anything about how this software actually decides it's looking at the real user's face. what happens if I hold up a picture of the correct owner and snap a shot of that? I have a feeling the device will happily log me in unless it has some method of detecting 2D vs 3D.

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  20. Face Recognition Work by KingOfTheNerds · · Score: 5, Informative

    My friend here at PennState University is working on face recognition research. He and I were suprised that such a technology was announced without us hearing about it ahead of time. Normally face recognition would not be useful for this purpose (security clearance). It is either too sensitive (not shaving, wearing sunglasses, etc) screws it up, or it's not sensitive enough to make it secure. Research here at the university was trying to find ways to fix these downfalls, but research on the subject is not even close to complete yet. I can't see this in anyway being as useful or complete as promised.

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  21. Much worse! by r00t · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now they won't just steal you cell phone.
    They have to cut off your face too!

  22. Re:Presumably... by Lev13than · · Score: 4, Funny

    Personally I think the whole idea of password protecting my cell is ridiculous, but I suppose there are some people in sensitive places that need to have their phones protected against thefts and things. Like Paris Hilton.

    Of course, authenticating against a stock photo poses certain challenges for Paris. For example, every time she wants to make a call she'll have to whip off her top and make out with a brunette.

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  23. Killer feature by piltdownman84 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Forget using this for security. Can I use to this to get the phone to remember girls names for me?

    Just take a picture and up comes the girls name or it speaks it. Maybe even better if it reminds me where I know her from. Gone is the embarrassment of not remembering her name, leaving me only the embarrassment of trying to make conversation.

  24. IR is too transient by vortex2.71 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think IR light is too transient to use for recognition. Everytime you're face heats up you wouldn't get into the phone. UV might work better, but wouldn't work with sunglasses very well. I'm wondering why passwords have gone out of style? They only take about a second to enter in.

  25. Steve Martin's LA Story by addie · · Score: 3, Informative

    Does this remind anyone of the scene from the classic Steve Martin comedy "LA Story"? He is trying to call his mother on his voice activated phone, and has to continually say "Mom" louder and louder each time. The phone dials wrong numbers, dials no number, and generally doesn't work. The scene points out how ridiculous it is that we waste time on time-saving features; it would have taken seconds to dial the number.

    A time-saving appliance only makes sense if it:
    - Works reliably in real-life situations
    - Has no learning curve
    - Costs no more than the "time" you "get back" from it

    Face-recognition camera phones just don't fit these criteria.