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Google Calendar Coming Soon?

mcpastore writes "Blogs have recently been buzzing over the possibility of seeing a Google Calendar popping up soon. Dave bases his prediction on the fact that one of his sites has been getting a tremendous amount of hits from GoogleBot ever since he added the iCal calendar. It makes perfect sense Google would try to go after the calendar market as it is their last big missing piece of the portal puzzle."

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  1. Ads by fembots · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So when your, or someone else's birthday's coming, you might see more gift-related ads?

  2. I don't buy it by moofdaddy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A calendar seems pretty clearly not to be in google's long term strategy. Everything they do they do because they can using their searching technology to make the way things are done even better. Be it email with searches, almost all the projects in google labs, etc. Search functions don't really fit all that well into a calendar, at least nothing that is goign to be improved by their algorithms.

    Second the whole calendar thing has been kind of done to death already. Outlook does a pretty decent job on the PC and iCal does an amazing job on the mac. When Google moved into email they did so because the current web based emails sucked, there was major room for imporvement. There really ins't much else you can do with the calendar.

    In the end it really just doesn't make sense.

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    1. Re:I don't buy it by Statecraftsman · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I disagree with the idea that there's not much more to be done with calendars. If they could just port over that scrolling effect of maps to multiple calendar day views I'd use it...they can even keep it beta forever, I don't mind.

      One of the main benefits of their apps is that they are accessible from anywhere...only a modest improvement is needed to make people switch and they are clearly trying to innovate.

    2. Re:I don't buy it by galaga79 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Second the whole calendar thing has been kind of done to death already. Outlook does a pretty decent job on the PC and iCal does an amazing job on the mac.

      If Google did produce a web based calendar service, it would augment the capabilites of iCal on the Mac not replace it. As far as I am aware iCal lets you upload your calendars to the web, and view them online but I don't think you can change them online. If Google Calendar existed then you could update your calendar using just a web browser, and then keep it up to date on your desktop using an iCal remote subscription.

      The whole iCal file format is very cool, and no where used to its full potential. Sunbird uses it too.

    3. Re:I don't buy it by supmylO · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't know if I buy the whole "there really isn't much else you can do with the calendar" thing. Looking back on what google has done for searching and web based e-mail it seems so OBVIOUS there was major room to improve, but no one had done it. These guys see things in a different way and make improvements that no one else saw before them. Sure, nothing you can imagine can be added to a calendar, but I'm not so sure that they can't think something up.

    4. Re:I don't buy it by larkost · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think there is some real room for Google to offer a new service, or rather to provide a high-profile better-interfaced offering just like they did with gmail. Namely I could see them offering WebDAV-based iCal (the format) hosting with a web interface. That way people using Apple's iCal and Mozilla's calendaring applications would have a place to publish their calendars to...

      Apple does this with .Mac, so there is precedent, but there is a lot of room for improvements. And google can be a lot higher profile than .Mac. And with iCal rumored to have bi-directional syncing in 10.4 and Sunbird's ability to do some of that, the time is just about ripe for this type of service.

      There is the little problem of how to make it pay for itself, but google seems to be very creative about how to use this sort of information for marketing purposes, and if they allowed people to link in commercial calendars (for example your favorite TV programs new shows, or the local rock climbing club, etc...) I could see this being a very viable advertising targeting tool.

    5. Re:I don't buy it by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Are you kidding? Outlook does a poor job on the PC, and iCal does a passing job on the Mac, but neither of them sync with each other and neither of them are web based. Hell, you should be able to syndicate a calendar with RSS feeds.

      If their calendar works as well as iCal, but brings it to the rest of the planet, that would be a complete coup.

      I hope you're trolling. Sure, I don't see that it's the most groundbreaking thing Google will ever do, but you're crazy if you don't think they have a team or three working on calendar solutions. They have a lot of people.

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  3. Re:speaking of portals... by moofdaddy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The whole idea of google is against portals They are minimalists, they would think that a portal is silly, that google.com is as much of a portal as you need.

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  4. Re:Too much Google? by puiahappy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    NO ! I think that google is just starting to grow and still have a long way to walk, just think about Yahoo how many features they have ...

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  5. Re:Too much Google? by hammurderer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I really dont see this as a bad thing. Google is a good company. I like google and gmail its hot. Sp34k l33t

  6. Could be useful by teslatug · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It'd be nice if they really integrated it into gmail. Yahoo already has such a feature, and it's not horrible, but I'm sure gCal could be much better.

  7. Re:Doesn't add up to anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Yeah, this sounds just about as trustworthy as all those predictions that Google would soon be offering VOIP. Remember that? We're still waiting...

    I prefer to go crazy over the products *after* Google has released them. Mmmmm, google maps... *drools*

  8. I'd pay for this by Azureflare · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I use gmail via the webclient all the time now, and I really want a calendar to be integrated with it so I can access all my important times/dates/todos in one place anywhere I am, not just at home. My Corp has outlook webmail but I HATE HATE HATE the user interface. Gmail has probably the best interface I've ever used, and if they added a calendar to that...

    I'd be willing to pay money for that.

  9. Probably not a calendar by ballwall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My guess is they want to search events. It would be cool to google "concerts in denver" at calendar.google.com and get something meaningful back. It's all about searching, and storing your events in google doesn't really accomplish anything.

    Makes much more sense for them to add the time element to searches, not a calendar function similar to Outlook or Lotus Notes.

    1. Re:Probably not a calendar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I think you're right. I've noticed calendars and such being very up to date in google. Some of my sites that don't have such time-sensitive info don't get updated in google for weeks or months.

  10. Re:speaking of portals... by generic-man · · Score: 2, Insightful

    More and more of Google is benefiting from registration. Google Answers requires that you register to create a question or answer one. Google Groups BETA lets you add groups to My Groups and post. GMail BETA, of course, requires a login to use. Froogle BETA lets you add products to "My Shopping List."

    About the only product Google has that doesn't benefit from registration (but should) is Google News BETA. I would use it a lot more often if I could customize the types of stories I want to see more or less frequently -- like Yahoo News lets me do.

    Portals are not a bad thing. My Yahoo is my home page and it works great for everything I use it for: news, stock quotes, weather, sports, and a few RSS feeds from other sites including Slashdot.

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  11. Re:Google on the brain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Goodles!

  12. Re:Too much Google? by idlemachine · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It seems like Google is trying to control every aspect of the internet/computer.

    By providing people with free tools that they can choose not to use if they don't want them?

    That doesn't really fit with any definition of "control" that I'm familiar with.

  13. Calendar is the last slot in an enterprise package by zipwow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've been saying this for weeks now. Actually, ever since the first time I said, "Wow, I love g-mail, I wish I could use it for work."

    If Google has calendaring and mail, with interfaces that are both simple and intuitive (obviously a strength of Google) then they can bundle that with their Enterprise search functionality and have a heck of a package.

    They can sell it service-based like Microsoft dreams about, or they can ship it out on the little yellow boxes. Users are freed from installation hassles, and in the subscription package, IT departments from management hassles.

    It seems like the next logical step to me.

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  14. Calendar must sync to swim by gregorious · · Score: 3, Insightful

    GoogleCal, Sunbird or any other calendar must syncronize with PDAs, cellphones, iPods, ... to be more than yet another groupware programming exercise. Would not going below the desktop be new ambitiously new territory for Google? The time to enter that wild territory is ripe.

  15. Two things... by Sheepdot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It makes perfect sense Google would try to go after the calendar market as it is their last big missing piece of the portal puzzle.

    This is simply not true. There are an unlimited number of things they could implement. IMHO, perhaps the biggest "missing piece" is an IRC search, of which they were rumored to be creating, but then the buzz died off. However with the success of sites like isoHunt and Packetnews (even with all its friggen ads) Google is missing out on probably a quarter of the searches I do while online.

    Second, it's a wellknown fact that the more often your website is updated, the more often that Google checks it. If he recently added a CMS, blog, or iCal, then it is likely Google is just coming back because he's updating a whole lot more.

  16. Another calendar...grrr... by Spoing · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I'd like to see the vendors PICK ONE PROTOCOL/FORMAT and USE IT. So far, iCal has the best coverage, though it's not universal and can have problems between implementations.

    (Current problem: Syncing calendars in Lotus Notes and Niku Clarity or Openworkbench. An iCal extention is available for Notes ($900 for 75 licences), but AFAICT none for Clarity or Openworkbench.)

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  17. WTF by adeydas · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Dave bases his prediction on the fact that one of his sites has been getting a tremendous amount of hits from GoogleBot ever since he added the iCal calendar."

    Why is that? Can't Google just install its own iCal and test it out?! Besides, even if it wants to see how many people are using Calendars on their websites, isn't indexing them once is enough?!

  18. Lotus Notes or Outlook by pablonhd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They need to target Loutus Notes and Outlook by offering the ablity to share calender events and send calendar details via gmail. This would blow yahoo and hotmail out of the water. Right now the hotmail and yahoo calendars are only useful to the one user.

  19. Lamity by Woodblock · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Since when is a handful of bloggers saying "Wouldn't it be cool if..." news?

    Wouldn't it be cool if blogging crashed like the dot-com boom? Just think:
    • we'd be free of such english language monstrosities as "blogosphere"
    • 15 year old nerds would be far more productive
    • we wouldn't have to read the same tired, uninformed navel gazing presented as valuable contributions to human knowledge
  20. Re:speaking of portals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    http://www.google.com/options/index.html

    Looks like a portal to me. All they have to do is slap some ads on the left side.

  21. Calendar integration is time based searching by xixax · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Everything they do they do because they can using their searching technology to make the way things are done even better.

    There's heaps that Google could do with calendars.

    For some time now I have been thinking how cool it would be to integrate text, spatial and temporal searching. For example, "tell me when any of my favourite musicians will be performing within a 2 hour drive of my current location" or "I will be visiting these cities on these dates, tell me about these sorts of events occuring while I am there". Google is rapidly building up enough data to let people add time and space dimensions to their searches.

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  22. Re:speaking of portals... by trekstar25 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Google News BETA does benefit from registration - you can create News Alerts that let you know whenever a topic you choose pops up in the news.

  23. outlook-b-gone by powdered+toast+dude · · Score: 2, Insightful
    As the CTO of a very small tech company, I wear hats from strategist to manager to coder to sysadmin to level 1 tech support. I happily welcome any alternative that obviates MS Outlook. So far I have successfully upheld my corporate ban on that pst-file wielding blister, but it is a continuous challenge to keep at bay those who say "but it works and it's handy and swanky, and clippy is cute."

    If google can provide corporate accounts on calendaring and gmail that makes it feel seamless and functional, while maintaining an agnostic view on platform and browser deployment, many of us would applaud and consider signing up.

    As long as they don't become evil, I guess.

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  24. I'll pin my hopes on sunbird by NoMercy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    With a lot more development, it could turn into a decent program, having it work out of the box and intergrate with all the commercial systems out there would be a killer feature for it though.

    Google... the only calendar I can see them keeping is a public events calendar, who wants to put in 'Appointment with dentist' and have an advert pop up next to it 'Low cost dental insurance' :/