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Galactica Commentary Podcast Available

Kichigai Mentat writes "Apparently SciFi channel is pushing the bounds of your average TV viewing experience with "Battlestar Galactica." First came a full, uncut stream of the first episode, now a full episode commentary podcast available as a Podcast stream, episode-length MP3 file for download, or invividual MP3 files for each "Act." The podcasts are released a week in advance, and listeners are warned about spoilers."

147 comments

  1. spoilers? by blackomegax · · Score: 0

    spoilers? what spoilers? i've already seen the entire 1st season. on topic: this is very very cool. :)

    1. Re:spoilers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      then it cannot be spoilt for you.

      as for others....

  2. podcast... by AmigaAvenger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ok, nothing annoys me more then someone renaming a technology, and then everyone jumping on the bandwagon of this new and great thing! it is called a webcast. as in broadcast combined with the web. there is no (i)pod in this stream whatsoever...

    1. Re:podcast... by erick99 · · Score: 1

      I don't think it's "pod" as in "ipod" but more like a peapod - something encapsulated. That said, it is still a webcast by a different name.

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    2. Re:podcast... by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      ok, nothing annoys me more then someone renaming a technology,

      What is it? Prince 'o Darkness -casting?

      Your host tonight is none other than Lucifer himself!

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    3. Re:podcast... by ckemp.org · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's a term coined by Adam Curry of iPodder. He developed the technique for downloading webcasts/interenet radio shows into iTunes and subsequently onto his iPod for later listening. Of course, the casts are not limited to iPods.

      See Wired's article.

    4. Re:podcast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's not streaming, so webcast really isn't the right term for it. Podcasting is RSS with downloaded MP3 enclosures. IMO, podcasting is a fine term, much better than "blog", at any rate.

    5. Re:podcast... by yotto · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think you have to be one of the Pod People to listen to it. I guess I'll have to wait until after I've been taken.

    6. Re:podcast... by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Insightful

      well.. it's not a stream. just a file that gets synched to your mp3 player(be it ipod or whatever). conviently and semi-automatically.

      in other words.. it's just an audio track.

      can't blame them though, just by going with the podcast trend they'll get shitloads of (podcasting)bloggers to mention it.

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    7. Re:podcast... by node+3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      everyone jumping on the bandwagon of this new and great thing

      I get the notion, AmigaAvenger, that it takes a while for you to warm up to new technologies...

    8. Re:podcast... by ExampleUserAccount · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, webcast could be used to describe these audio RSS enclosures but that term is really too broad. There are distinct properties of something labeled a "podcast" which make the term useful. Podcasts are always downloadable in a format you can use on most MP3 players. Webcasts are usually streamed with in a format to prevent you from downloading them. It's difficult to listen to a webcast if there isn't a computer nearby. Webcasts are often low quality audio due to bandwith constraints. Podcasts currently use higher bitrates more often. Podcasts have special RSS feed reader software that automatically downloads the 'casts and adds them to a playlist on a digital audio player. The 'casts are always waiting for you so you don't have to visit a bunch of different sites to listen. The best podcast clients manage disk space like a Tivo. They delete older files according to rules like max number of files or max drive space. Podcast is handy shorthand for these properties. I would hate to have to wade through hundreds of webcasts to try and discern which could easily be added to my RSS MP3 enclosure feed reader.

      On topic -- The Battlestar Gallactica commentary feeds are a great use for podcasts. I'd love to see someone add support for these to Tivo and MythTV. I eagerly look forward to someone using this to add MST3K type commentary to state of the union addresses.

    9. Re:podcast... by Darth+Maul · · Score: 1

      It's not just a webcast, really. It has some extra mojo. It also has an RSS XML file that has entries for new audio tracks. That way you can have this little 'podcasting' client that can check feeds for new tracks and download them automatically and have them put right on your portable MP3 player. It's a great new way of using existing technology, so the new name is fine IMHO.

      The 'pod' part of the name is indeed from iPod, as that is the most popular MP3 player out there.

      Check out ipodder.org and podcastalley.com for more information.

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    10. Re:podcast... by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

      I know! Remember how firewire took off when they renamed it to IEEE-139.. uhh whatever..? ;)

    11. Re:podcast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because /. isn't enough?

    12. Re:podcast... by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      well. how many slashdotters are going to actually listen to it? not that many.

      but a gazillion podcasters/bloggers are going to - just so that they can tell of it on their next blog entry or podcast(yes, i am annoyed by blogs that mainly discuss blogging - at the same time i don't read books about writing).

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    13. Re:podcast... by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 2, Informative

      it is called a webcast.

      Um, no. That's not what this is. A podcast is an encoded audio file, MP3 or similar, that's delivered via an Atom feed as an enclosure. Your client program, if you choose to use one, downloads it straight into iTunes for syncing to your iPod. Hence "podcast." It's a very specific thing.

    14. Re:podcast... by xwizbt · · Score: 1

      No, but we're all listening to it on our iPods. Care to join us in the 21st century?

    15. Re:podcast... by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 1

      I said it was an Atom feed. I got too specific. In this particular instance, it's an RSS 2.0 feed. Whatever. Same thing, for all intents and purposes.

    16. Re:podcast... by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 1

      Seems a bit pointless.

      Why didn't they just link to the MP3? You have to download *yet another* frikkin app just to listen to it. Personally I'm not going to bother.

    17. Re:podcast... by AmigaAvenger · · Score: 1

      haha, now why would you think that!? (in all actually I gave up my amiga long ago, and just haven't given up the username.)

    18. Re:podcast... by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, they give you a choice, Tony. Download MP3s or subscribe to the Podcast. Nice to see you being so diligent.

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    19. Re:podcast... by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      Perhaps the fact that your sidekick is named CP/M boy is a bit of a give away.

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    20. Re:podcast... by MidnightBrewer · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's a podcast if the person who posts it on their web page chooses to call it such. I differentiate the two by the fact that a podcast doesn't leave me tied to the computer the whole time, but rather lets me take it with me for later viewing. Do you refer to recorded shows on Tivo as broadcasts, even though they're recordings?

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    21. Re:podcast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, because "we" don't all own fucking iPods. There ARE other players out there, and some of us consider them to be superior to Apple's offering.

    22. Re:podcast... by __aamkky7574 · · Score: 1

      That's funny - when I heard the name, I thought "hey, same name as that Euro VJ from the 80s". Then I Googled and, holy shit, it _is_ the Euro VJ from the 80s.

      Maybe they can get Pat Sharp to be the next HP CEO...

      P.

    23. Re:podcast... by Don'tTreadOnMe · · Score: 1
      Yeah, I know what you mean.

      These things get named, and you think, "Wow, someone is broadcasting from their iPod, that's cool!" [Reads article] "WTF? Why do they call it a Podcast?"

      I remember when I first heard of 'bots, your friendly little program buddy that will go wandering around the 'net, doing little things, then coming back with information, or whatever. I thought, "Cool! I'll start one of these 'bot things going, log off, come back in the morning, and see what it's found!" [Reads more about 'bots...] "Oh. So it's just a program that you run on your machine that scans IP addresses. w00t."

  3. Isn't it great... by anti11es · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't it great when somebody actually get's it...unlike some people.

    1. Re:Isn't it great... by mboverload · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Scifi and esp Comedy Central are the only real innovators in cable television. I'm glad we have at least 2...out of the clonecast 400 others.

    2. Re:Isn't it great... by jnmontario · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think it's fantastic that there's finally a decent sci-fi show on (no offense to the trekkies but since TNG they've all sucked). Not since Firefly has a show had 'the big three'(good cinematography, great scriptwriting and good acting). Before that, Space Above and Beyond. Kudos to Micheal Rymer (sp?) for making a mediocre (at best) original series and making it compelling. Scratch that, addicting. After watching the first few here on the space channel (CAN) I had to watch the rest within that week *cough* emule. Can't wait for next season.

    3. Re:Isn't it great... by Minwee · · Score: 4, Informative
      Yes, it is.

      In any field.

    4. Re:Isn't it great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scifi is owned by NBC Universal.

      NBC Universal was formed last year when GE bought Universal Studios and merged it with NBC.

      Universal Studios is probably being the most litgious studio of all the MPAA members.

      Scifi is beholden to the same masters, you just haven't seen them act on TV piracy yet.

    5. Re:Isn't it great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's a sad comment when this passes for "getting it." Yeah, it's a cool idea and I applaud SciFi for doing it, but if they truly did get it, they'd be offering all the episodes for download already.

      I caught an episode of Galactica a few weeks ago, enjoyed it, and decided to scour around BitTorrent sites so I could catch up and view the episodes I had missed. To my surprise I was able to not only get those episodes but also the rest of the first season which hadn't aired here in the States yet. I would have gladly paid SciFi for this, but now I probably won't even tune-in when the show airs because I've already seen them. I can't be the only one who this is true of. So, not only are they missing out on charging me for downloads, but they're also missing out on me increasing their viewership so they can charge more for commercials and make money that way.

      When are TV stations going to face the realities of the market place? There's a reason why PVRs and BitTorrent are so popular: there's a demand for time-shifted viewing as well as ownership. SciFi, whose viewership is geekier than most, should realize they're not doing nearly as well as they could be by not offering a product their consumers are demanding. The only logic I can see is that they're counting on DVD sales as being their cash-cow and feel downloads will result in a net loss because of decreased DVD sales.

    6. Re:Isn't it great... by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh, I don't think that Sci Fi and Comedy are the only real innovators in Cable, at least in North America. HBO reinvented the miniseries, Discovery-History reinvented the documentary/educational series and later on the whole home and auto improvement genre. ESPN totally redid sports reporting and news as well as creating events like the NFL draft which had gone from a non-event to 3-4 day round the clock event with very high ratings for cable.

      And of course Cinemax created a whole new market for softcore porn at all hours.

    7. Re:Isn't it great... by magarity · · Score: 1

      Not since Firefly has a show had 'the big three'(good cinematography, great scriptwriting and good acting)

      For me, it's the scriptwriting and the acting that make the new BSG. I really dislike the drunken-cameraman style of cinematography. I don't find it "realistic" since I don't wobble half that much when standing around talking to people. And while Firefly had a few quick-change focal lengths that would fuzz the focus on CG shots and it was a cool effect, BSG does it constantly. It seems every CG shot has focusing problems, even on a simple pan to the Galactica, which isn't known for quick manuevering. It's very distracting.

    8. Re:Isn't it great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love the new BSG, but come on...the writing is just plain sloppy. It's rife with inconsistencies.

    9. Re:Isn't it great... by squiggleslash · · Score: 1
      The RIAA and MPAA are industry associations. They do not produce content directly.

      Sci-fi is owned by Universal, who are (ultimately) members of both the MPAA and RIAA.

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    10. Re:Isn't it great... by M1FCJ · · Score: 1

      It is sad that the publishing house is not a decent one but Baen... When was the last time I read a good Baen book? I have to sit here and think a while, go and grab a cup of coffee, this might take some time.

    11. Re:Isn't it great... by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      This new-fangled BSG is IMO total rubbish.

      I saw '33' and found it irritating and boring.

      I just downloaded episode 11 and found it exactly the same, or maybe worse.

      The wobbly, nausiating camera isn't half of it; they may as well call the Galactica 'Spaceship One' because its just yanks in space. Ms President... ewwww

      The imaginary 'cylon' girlfriend is really stupid; that guy would have been spotted as unstable in the first episode and put away or maybe just drugged and allowed to perform janitorial duties.

      The cylons being created by humans and rebelling is just the matrix and terminator again.

      And if you actually *liked* 'Space Above and Beyond' well that explains *everything*

      I suppose you liked 'Earth Two' as well?

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    12. Re:Isn't it great... by ivano · · Score: 1
      the only thing that Discovery-History have done is to lower the quality of the documentary. In fact there style is now being copied by the BBC (esp Horizon). This thing of making every documetary a tug-of-war between two ideas with every scene a cliff-hanger ("will the neutrions be discovered in time...or will slip pass his detectors" Dun dun daaaaaaaa)

      Ciao

    13. Re:Isn't it great... by ivano · · Score: 1
      totally agree (no mod pts sorry).

      In fact, i just stopped watching Enterprise altogether. I suddenly found out what a *good* SF series feels/tastes like. For me this is better than ALL the Star Trek TV series. Imagine actually having real actors (Patrick Stewart not included) on an SF show? Shock, horror. I think BSG05 is more like West Wing (seasons 1-4) and Six Feet Under than a typical SF show.

      Ciao

    14. Re:Isn't it great... by jnmontario · · Score: 1

      You've got to be kidding me! Space A&B was a fantastically conceived & implemented show (mind you the first episode or two were poorly acted but then again so was TNG and Firefly) . Simple, yet great acting. It's only fault is that it was developped on Fox, the antichrist of good quality entertainment.

    15. Re:Isn't it great... by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

      Even if much of it is lower quality, and really, filmed documentaries usually aren't very high quality in terms of documentation or peer reviewing like a book or journal does. However a filmed documentary does allow accessability to a subject for someone that might not know about something, and that accessability allows more people to become exposed to the subject.

      In allowing accessabiliy and exposure, I'd say the Discovery-History arc of channels and programing are doing a good thing.

    16. Re:Isn't it great... by NaruVonWilkins · · Score: 1

      But... you *do* wobble that much when you're holding a camcorder. :) I'm not a big fan of the wobbly camera action either, but it is accurate in terms of someone who'd be holding a camera.

    17. Re:Isn't it great... by magarity · · Score: 1

      you *do* wobble that much when you're holding a camcorder

      Look, I can understand they don't allow computer networks so the Cylons can't infiltrate the entire ship at once but outlawing Steadi-Cams???

    18. Re:Isn't it great... by NaruVonWilkins · · Score: 1

      That's hilarious. :) Maybe it's like in submarines - the extra space or weight would be unacceptable?

    19. Re:Isn't it great... by Blackjax · · Score: 1

      Baen serves a very specific market, and in my opinion serves it quite well. I can't recall ever reading anything from them that I'd call 'highbrow' but then I can't recall them ever pretending that their material was. They produce some very satisfying pulp, for someone who wants some good fun material to relax with. David Weber, David Drake, John Ringo, etc. are all solid military scifi writers who turn out just that sort of thing and publish it through Baen. Baen is the M&M Mars of mind candy, it's comfort food. :-)

    20. Re:Isn't it great... by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      people differ so much... for me the first episodes of firefly were the best; the last three episodes sucked. Maybe it was because the actors could see the writing on the wall and acted accordingly.

      But it seems that one mans poor acting is another mans good acting; I thought the acting in Space A&B was appaling. As were the plots, the props, the backstory... you get the idea.

      I think the animated 'roughnecks' series had better acting...

      Just one mans opinion, mind.

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  4. Podcast? by Svenne · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wtf is a podcast?

    Ah, Wikipedia to the rescue!

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    1. Re:Podcast? by Spoing · · Score: 1, Interesting
      1. Wtf is a podcast?

        Ah, Wikipedia to the rescue!

      To add to that, (and re-using a previous post of mine);

      1. 1. Blog/show format vs. radio. While podcasting is referred to as a type of radio...it's not. It's an audio blog. If you don't like blogs, and could care less about talk radio or public radio, podcasting is a waste of time for you. NPR btw has a few podcasts. I suggest listening to IT Conversations as well...even has non-IT specific content that I haven't heard elsewhere.

        2. You can take podcasts with you. That's the design. OK, you can also take shoutcasts with you though it's not as easy. Shoutcasting is designed for streaming and you can't stream if you're not connected to the source. The associated tags tend to make more sense with OPML/XML and embedded in the audio files themselves.

        3. Podcasting is like a magazine or newspaper subscription. You pick what you want and it comes to you.

        4. Podcasts can be fetched at odd hours of the day. While I have cable internet, I don't like to bog the connection down while playing Savage...so I schedule Bashpodder to fetch the podcasts before I wake up in the morning.

        5. Podcasts do not require a high speed link. Got a modem and 'unlimited internet', fetch podcasts when you aren't there or late at night.

        6. Podcasting is not limited to audio. Any data can be embedded in the RSS feed including video. I subscribe to Rocketboom this way.

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    2. Re:Podcast? by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

      It's an XML file that you can extract urls from and feed to wget ;D

    3. Re:Podcast? by ExampleUserAccount · · Score: 1
      Great post, Spoing. I think you just have one glitch in there.
      If you don't like blogs, and could care less about talk radio or public radio, podcasting is a waste of time for you.
      My two favorite podcasts are music shows and they don't sound like talk radio at all. I highly recommend Coverville and The Sounds In My Head. Both are very well produced and showcase fantastic music with very little talk between songs.
    4. Re:Podcast? by Spoing · · Score: 1
      1. My two favorite podcasts are music shows and they don't sound like talk radio at all. I highly recommend Coverville and The Sounds In My Head. Both are very well produced and showcase fantastic music with very little talk between songs.

      Agreed. For a while I listened to the 250 Million radio show -- http://www.acmenoise.com/temp/250millionradio.xml -- though it seems to have slowed down or has been cancled (or maybe I'm impatient).

      If you dig through everything I wrote, there are quite a few other errors and/or overstated points.

      After seeing how people here don't seem to 'get it' as far as audio blogs / podcasts, I didn't want to focus on all the details.

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    5. Re:Podcast? by ExampleUserAccount · · Score: 1

      You nailed the idea, that's what's important. The talk/NPR quote stood out to me because that's how I felt about podcasting when I first started listening. There are a ton of boring blah-ggers in this stone-age of podcasting.

      I subscribe to the $250 Million Radio Show, too. A new show just popped up about a week ago.

    6. Re:Podcast? by Dominic_Mazzoni · · Score: 1

      I like the idea of Podcasting, but it doesn't seem to be automatic enough yet.

      Is there any Podcasting software (ideally for Mac OS X) that will automatically download new podcasts, transfer them to iTunes with special tags of my choosing (so that I can filter them and put them in a special playlist), and then automatically tell iTunes to initiate an iPod sync? Without those features, I'm not totally sold on Podcasting...

    7. Re:Podcast? by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't mean to be snide, but I'm pretty sure all podcast client software does what you describe. That's exactly what podcasting is all about.

      I use NetNewsWire 2, personally. (It's in public beta.) There are other clients, but this is the one I'm familiar with. Under the preferences are settings related to feed enclosures. You can tell NetNewsWire to automatically download audio enclosures and load them into iTunes. You can have it add them to a named playlist, or to put them in their own playlists corresponding to the feed from which they came. You can also set the genre; I have NetNewsWire set the genre of all podcasts to "Podcast" for easy sorting.

      As for having it automatically trigger an iPod sync, no, but for good reason: What if your iPod isn't plugged in? No matter; when next you plug it in, your podcasts will be downloaded.

    8. Re:Podcast? by jlewin · · Score: 1

      There's some good info at the Podcasting News site.

      Includes a what is podcasting article, along with info on using RSS in the context of a podcast.

  5. That is a bad name by AtariAmarok · · Score: 3, Interesting
    That IS a bad name, considering that the vast majority of those who would listen do not even have iPods (those with PCs or Macs with sound cards and MP3 player software, or those with non iPod portable digital sound file players).

    The iPod sure is popular, but it does not dominate everything.

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    1. Re:That is a bad name by TomHandy · · Score: 4, Informative
      The reason for the name is that the original Podcasting software was designed with the idea of synching the files to your iPod. Of course, it works with other mp3 players, but that is where the original name comes from, and it's just happened to stick.

      And re: the first person's comment, this isn't a webcast. A webcast would be the idea of something broadcast over the web. The "unique" aspect of the podcasting stuff is supposed to be using the iPodder software to automatically subscribe to podcasts and sync them up to your portable mp3 player to listen to whenever. Which is different than just listening to a webcast online.

      -Tom

    2. Re:That is a bad name by AtariAmarok · · Score: 1
      Mod that parent informative!

      "Of course, it works with other mp3 players, but that is where the original name comes from, and it's just happened to stick. "

      Apple might eventually get uneasy more and more references to ANY portable sound/music players use the term "pod" or "ipod". They could conceivably end with with the brand name going soft. It has happened before: "While you are at the store, pick me up some coke. Pepsi-brand coke might be ok. Also, a box of kleenex. Puff brand kleenex will do just fine. Also, stop off at the library and xerox our tax forms on that nice new Canon photocopier they have."

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    3. Re:That is a bad name by op00to · · Score: 1

      Yes. And the people who talk like that are morons.

    4. Re:That is a bad name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i must be an oldtimer.

      in my day, we called this "downloading"

      i downloaded a zip file.

      i automatically downloaded a movie to my ipod.

      What's next?

      i performed a divxcast to my irivercast, because i'm gaycast.

      everyone in this thread who thinks podcast is a good and legit name.

      can die.

  6. MOD PARENT UP!!!! FUNNY!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The song is actually referring to the CEO of SciFi which is Gavrilo Principe, and his wife Sophia Principe. The song is about Gavrilo shooting us because we have to listen to an annoying cast of commentary on national tv.

  7. Great stuff! by agentZ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've watched the episode with the Podcast and it was great! I had already seen the episode, and seeing it again with the Director's Commentary definitely added to the experience. I've seen the Director's Commentary for other television shows like CSI, but then I had to pay upwards of $60US per season for the privildge. Giving this kind of material away is fantastic and I applaud the SciFi channel for doing it! Granted, I'm sure this promotion is designed to get me hooked so that I end up buying the $60 DVD set when it comes out, but so be it. I'd like to know that I'll like it before I buy it!

    1. Re:Great stuff! by STrinity · · Score: 1

      I've seen the Director's Commentary for other television shows like CSI, but then I had to pay upwards of $60US per season for the privildge.

      Upwards of $60? Jeez are you ever watching the wrong shows. Most Fox owned series top out at $60 MSRP, and retail for $10-15 less than that.

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    2. Re:Great stuff! by jjr23 · · Score: 1

      Anyone have any idea when it does come out on DVD? I don't have cable and so can't see the show :( Note: if sci-fi were to stream the show on-line, I'd pay the associated fee (so long as the feed was TV quality.) They can put whatever DRM software they like at my end (linux version of course), I don't mind that. I do mind paying vast sums of money to a cable company for 399 channels that I don't watch. Instead, let me pay the one tv channel directly for the stuff I want to watch and I'll stream it over my broadband connection to my PC. I guess that wont happen soon :( ... so back to the original question: when is the DVD box set coming out?

    3. Re:Great stuff! by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      I just BTed the 2003 miniseries/pilot and I liked it so much I'm going to buy the DVD this afternoon.

      Check that. Just ordered it.

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  8. LOL good one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    This forum is like the Special Olympics of computing.

    1. Re:LOL good one by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 1

      Even if you win, you're still retarded?

  9. Podcast = download. Doesn't even stream by Animats · · Score: 1, Insightful
    The actual MP3 is here. It's not even on a streaming server; you have to download the whole thing. This is a step backwards to 1999 technology.

    It's one guy, talking. And he's boring. This isn't Mystery Science Theater 3000. It's more like "shut up, I'm watching the show".

    Incidentally, if you're shipping out voice recorded with one microphone, both channels are the same and there's no reason to send it in stereo. Just bloats the file.

  10. Battlestar Galatica icon by minairia · · Score: 3, Insightful
    We've seen lots of BSG stories lately on Slashdot,and with the quality of the show plus forward thinking initiatives on that part of the producers such as this "podcast", there will likely be many more stories to come. So, when will BSG gets it's own icon ?(Instead of that StarTrek TOS looking bumpy headed alien.)

    There really hasn't been anything like it on TV in a while, and it is obvious that the producers pay attention to what fans think. I rememeber last year, there were postings on Slashdot about why after all the nuking Caprica didn't have nuclear winter effects, radiation. Now, 2nd season, the characters need radiation shots and the weather is awful (although shouldn't it be cold and icy instead of rainy?)

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    And the Baltar character is hilarious. Like last episode when Starbuck caught him and his imaginary(?) cylon GF doing it doggy style. It was sexy without being UPNish and funny without being stupid and, well, UPNish. I like how they introduce an edgy, troublesome character like commander Ty's wife and don't just send her off at the end of the episode StarTrek syle. Or it was cool when Boomer started getting hot and bothered over the Cylon fighter ship. I could go on and on. I wish the people who were doing Enterprise had had 1/10nth of the creativity. The one episode where they came close to the human level BSG gets is when they had shoreleave on that one planet, and Hoshi got bent over by that big alien guy. It was funny, totally unexpected from that particular character and made them seem like real people.

    1. Re:Battlestar Galatica icon by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      Dont worry, the series just gets better and better.

    2. Re:Battlestar Galatica icon by ezzzD55J · · Score: 2, Funny

      - - --POTENTIAL SPOILER ALERT -- - - My favourite line in the entire series.. "No more Mr. Nice Gaius!"

    3. Re:Battlestar Galatica icon by cdcarter · · Score: 1

      I believe the Star Trek head is used, because it is of the Aliens on Menagerie(season 1), which is based off the pilot. I cannot remember if they used that same head in "The Cage" though.

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    4. Re:Battlestar Galatica icon by hey+hey+hey · · Score: 1

      I KNOW I'm gonna regret posting this, but the "head" is from the episode 'The Corbomite Maneuver'. It is the puppet head of Balok, who turn out to be Clint Howard...

    5. Re:Battlestar Galatica icon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      it was cool when Boomer started getting hot and bothered over the Cylon fighter ship ... and Hoshi got bent over by that big alien guy

      wow, that's quite a kinky fetish you got there pal.

    6. Re:Battlestar Galatica icon by Fishstick · · Score: 1
      mine too, up until Friday.

      So, you've invented a Cylon detector that always results green?

      Yes, avoids too many awkward questions. A time saver, really.

      ...or something along those lines. He has completed two tests, both positive for Cylon. Both times he has lied about the results.

      --

      There is much cruelty in the universe, John.
      Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.

    7. Re:Battlestar Galatica icon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We don't know the result for the second test (Ellen's).

  11. Re:Reminds of of this song: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ironically enough it was the band Franz Ferdinand

  12. Re:Podcast = download. Doesn't even stream by PatrickThomson · · Score: 2, Informative

    Have you even the faintest idea what joint stereo is? The difference between left and right is encoded seperately, and last I checked, zero compresses quite well.

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  13. pushing the boundaries by dean.collins · · Score: 3, Insightful

    this is a great idea, and I do think it's pushing the boundaries. Cheers, Dean

  14. Re:Podcast = download. Doesn't even stream by imroy · · Score: 1

    Stereo? mpg123 reports this when playing:

    Playing MPEG stream from bsg_ep109_FULL.mp3 ...
    MPEG 1.0 layer III, 64 kbit/s, 44100 Hz mono

    Doesn't look stereo to me.

  15. I hope this works out for them by Starji · · Score: 1

    I really hope these extras SciFi is providing pays off for them in the end. This sort of thing is exactly what so many people have been asking for, the fact they are willing to take the risk and go for it is very impressive. I hope it generates some profit for them and they can take it to the next level and maybe influence how every channel does TV.

    My personal hope is they end up allowing downloads for all the previous season's episodes. Maybe in a lower resolution and without extras to provide incentive for people to buy the DVDs when they come out. It's probably a pipe dream, but it seems more likely given what SciFi has already done.

    1. Re:I hope this works out for them by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What they're doing is smart, and I think it will pay off for them. A TV program lives and dies by ratings, which determine the price for advertising for the network or channel. BSG is attempting to grow a fan base to insure that they get high rating. They've already succeeded enough to get a second season.

      The little extras they're giving us are just part of their overall campaign. It's a small part, but the attention to detail (such as the behind the scenes interviews with cast and crew) definitely adds to my enjoyment.

      I join you in your hope that they will continue to release online versions of all the episodes, but I don't think it will happen beyond a very limited basis. FWIW, I got the miniseries off of BT and watched it last night and ordered the DVD from Amazon about 15 minutes ago. I don't like to think of myself as a pirate, but I'll accept the title of "illegal previewer". =)

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      It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
    2. Re:I hope this works out for them by ivano · · Score: 1
      ditto. Just ordered the Season 1 DVD from Amazon.co.uk.

      Ciao

  16. Re:Who cares by repetty · · Score: 3, Funny

    >> Is it just me, or is this one of the most boring shows on television today??

    Yep, you nailed it right on the head. It's you.

    One of the other networks is broadcasting Three's Company re-runs. You oughta check'em out. You'll like it.

  17. Grrrrrr. Flash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now if they'd only dispense with the Shockwave Flash menus all over the place so people who either choose not to use flash (perhaps because of the flash "pop up" ads that aren't in new windows but run over the top of existing windows), or run OSs that don't have native flash players, can use the site I'd be much more impressed.

  18. SciFi Channel creativity by fm6 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I often think that the people who run the SciFi Channel are more creative and imaginative than most of the programs they air. The cute little CGI-intense promos are a lot of fun. (Though they tend to get worn out by overuse.) And their web site never fails to impress.

    I was never a fan of Sliders (corny and illogical), but the SciFi web site tie in was a true gem, with its clever contests and imaginative episode tie-ins. My favorite was the tie-in for the ep where the good guys are captured by the evil Cromags and thrown in a prison camp. The tie-in for that ep was the camp newsletter. Great stuff!

    1. Re:SciFi Channel creativity by ben184 · · Score: 1

      I remember how they treated MST3K before it was canceled. Unlike Comedy Central, they seemed to know the audience.

      The write-your-on-caption feature on the Sci-Fi website was very cool.

  19. Torrent by TorrentNinja · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here is a torrent of the Full PodCast. It's 20MB.

    bsg_ep109_FULL.torrent
    1. Re:Torrent by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 1

      Hmm. Methinks maybe you're not quite wrapping your head around the whole "podcast" idea.

      Here is the podcast URL:

      http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcas t/ podcast.xml

      I'm not making a hyperlink out of that because it doesn't point to a Web page. It points to an RSS feed. You copy and paste that URL into your podcast client. Once subscribed, your client downloads each new audio file as it's available (in this case, each Friday) and sticks it straight into iTunes, where it automatically syncs to your iPod. Hence the name, see?

      If you don't have an iPod ... well, join us in the 21st century. But until you do, I'm sure there are podcast clients out there that will do other things with the audio file. Though I'm not quite sure what good they'll do you in this particular case. The commentary track is scene-specific, meaning it's meant to be listened to while you sit on your couch with the TV show on. I guess you could do it with a laptop, but it would be annoyingly cumbersome. Using an iPod works better.

    2. Re:Torrent by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 0, Troll

      Still sounds like a silly idea.

      Firstly you have to have an Ipod... probably a lot of slashdotters do... they don't seem to be that common in 'the big blue room' (I know one other person with one out of maybe 200 I deal with in a week).

      Secondly that Ipod needs to be constantly connected to the PC - which *completely* defeats the object of the ipod. The point is you load your music collection onto it then you're sorted unless you buy some more albums (rare for me).. Hell, mine has only seen a dock twice since I bought it.

      Thirdly it's not any easier than providing a web page with the MP3 files on it, except now you have to download some software to parse the XML first, then download it into itunes and sync. A lot of extra effort for no gain.

    3. Re:Torrent by TorrentNinja · · Score: 1

      Sure, I get the idea. I just wanted to mirror the conent so when 10,000 people hit the site all wanting to listen we all can.

    4. Re:Torrent by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 0, Redundant

      But all you're "mirroring" is an MP3 file. That's not what people are going to want. What people are going to want is access to the RSS feed in which the MP3 file is enclosed. What good is that?

      Besides, the Sci Fi server cluster that hosts both the feed and the enclosures can handle the traffic with aplomb. Your help was (1) not needed and (2) not remotely helpful.

    5. Re:Torrent by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 1

      they don't seem to be that common

      They are by far the most common music player in the world. Something like nine out of ten music players sold is an iPod.

      Secondly that Ipod needs to be constantly connected to the PC

      No, that's not how an iPod works. If you don't own one, it's understandable that you should be confused about this, but it's really very simple. You plug in the iPod, iTunes syncs either your entire music library or a subset of it, depending on how big your library and your iPod are. You go away, come back, plug in again, and any new content (such as podcasts) is automatically downloaded.

      Hell, mine has only seen a dock twice since I bought it.

      You don't charge your iPod?

      Thirdly it's not any easier than providing a web page with the MP3 files on it

      It is, in fact, much easier. Once you've subscribed to the podcast feed with an appropriate client, the podcasts will be automatically downloaded to your iTunes library without your intervention whenever they're available, and from there synched to your iPod. See? All without your having to actually do anything.

      Your alternative suggestion -- "a Web page with MP3 files on it" -- is, by comparison, massively inconvenient. One must remember to check the page periodically for new content, then download the content to one's computer, then load the content into iTunes. Not a ton of work, but more than it should be. With a podcast, the amount of work required, after initially subscribing to the feed, is precisely zero.

    6. Re:Torrent by ivano · · Score: 1
      can you tell me why you think you need an iPod for a podcast?

      Ciao

  20. Re:Who cares by samdu · · Score: 0

    (I'm actually replying instead of moderating because I've seen a number of spammy posts like the recently.)

    Apparently the show has your attention enough to bother responding to this thread. Seriously, dude, if it doesn't interest you, why waste time and bandwidth replying? Why bother even reading the thread? Do you need a life that badly?

  21. Re:Podcast = download. Doesn't even stream by samdu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Some valid points. However, I think I'd rather see both a streaming AND a downloadable version. Some of us prefer to download the entire thing so we can listen to it whenever. Being downloadable != backward technology, just a different choice.

  22. Re:Podcast = download. Doesn't even stream by K8Fan · · Score: 1

    Yeah, every single person downloading the entire file from a single server? Bleagh! Cross this with Bittorrent, and you'll have something worthwhile.

    --
    "How perfectly Goddamn delightful it all is, to be sure" Charles Crumb
  23. Re:Podcast = download. Doesn't even stream by node+3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The actual MP3 is here. It's not even on a streaming server; you have to download the whole thing. This is a step backwards to 1999 technology.

    Dude, you got this so wrong.

    A 'podcast' is where you have a program which automatically downloads mp3's by checking an RSS feed, and copies them over to iTunes for your iPod (you don't actually have to have an iPod, but the whole experience is designed with the iPod in mind, hence the name). This is like TiVo for your Internet broadcasts, this is far superior to streaming audio. Streaming is so Marconi!

    It's one guy, talking. And he's boring. This isn't Mystery Science Theater 3000. It's more like "shut up, I'm watching the show".

    This is like another modern technology you appear to be unfamiliar with--the DVD. Once you've watched a show, you can watch it again with commentary, that's what this commentary is for. Again, via a podcast this is vastly superior to the DVD method (omigod, imagine if this had been around when B5 was on!).

    Incidentally, if you're shipping out voice recorded with one microphone, both channels are the same and there's no reason to send it in stereo. Just bloats the file.

    Oh so true. Fortunately the guys at SciFi know this (not terribly surprising that a television network would understand the 'vagaries' of audio channels, lol), and made the file mono.

    There's absolutely no way I haven't just been trolled...

  24. Re:Podcast = download. Doesn't even stream by outcast36 · · Score: 1

    marconi = ankle-biter
    tesla = visionary

    got it?

  25. While we are on the subject of the Sci-Fi Channel by KrancHammer · · Score: 1

    Did anyone else see that "IF" promo last Friday during BSG with the guy blowing into the dog's ass? That was a serious 'WTF? Did that really happen?' moment. I generally like the Sci-Fi channel's little promo spots, but geez... they need to change dealers or something. That, and those "Mansquito" ads...

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  26. Re:Podcast = download. Doesn't even stream by bigbigbison · · Score: 1

    But you aren't supposed to stream it. This was realeased earlier this week so that in the US you could download it before the show was on. Maybe I'm just have slow reaction times but I had to pause and fast forward the mp3 a few time to get it in sync with the episode, especially after commercials. With a streaming mp3 that wouldn't really be practical with buffering and such especially since there are part where you can hear the show in the background of the mp3 and so being off by a fraction of a second is irritating.

    As far as boring, well, it is just as interesting as most other commentary tracks on DVD's. I taped the show, watched it and then rewatched it Saturday morning with the commentary and enjoyed it a lot. I think it is even better than most dvd commentaries because I haven't seen the next episode unlike most commentaries where presumably you have either seen the film or watched the entire season of the show.

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  27. WOW!!! by brokencomputer · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is phracking awesome!

  28. Re:Reminds of of this song: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Irony is when the intended meaning is different from the literal meaning.

    Franz Ferdinand, the band with the song "Take Me Out" ("I'm just a crosshair.."), is not ironic. They are just referring to a guy none of our postliterate Eloi know about any more. That is not irony.

    Examples:

    Hearing GWB lecture Syria about the injustice of occupying a sovereign country -- irony.

    Black fly in chardonnay -- not irony.

  29. Re:Grrrrrr. Flash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ...and javascript! All i see here is:
    • SCIFI banner
    • "click to watch" banner
    • "exclusive podcast" banner
    • space
    • mini/classic series banner
    and I just looked at a gallery that's totally blank. Kudos to the webmaster, your site is as worthless as the rest of the mainstream web, even if it is the official site for the only show I bothered to watch in over 5 years.
  30. Who cares about terminology. WAS: Re:podcast... by EnderWigginsXenocide · · Score: 1

    Who cares what it's called, I just want to know where get it for all the past episodes. 109 is currently available, but I can't find 101 to 108.

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    1. Re:Who cares about terminology. WAS: Re:podcast... by EnderWigginsXenocide · · Score: 1
      PS, you can't just change the URL from

      http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/ mp3/109/bsg_ep109_FULL.mp3

      to

      http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/ mp3/108/bsg_ep108_FULL.mp3

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    2. Re:Who cares about terminology. WAS: Re:podcast... by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 1

      Listen to the track. Moore says specifically that this is the first one made.

  31. Re:Podcast = download. Doesn't even stream by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 1

    If they want commentary like that why not broadcast it one one of the other language tracks? Sure, those with analogue TV wouldn't get it but as slashdotters keep telling people on this forum 'this is the 21st century dude'.

    Seems a bit strange offering an MP3 (downloadable via another app... I can't say this enough... WHY????) - I mean who has an MP3 player on when watching the TV???

  32. Good idea, but... by uhlume · · Score: 1

    I eagerly look forward to someone using this to add MST3K type commentary to state of the union addresses.

    Those are, uh ... live. Allegedly.

    Adding commentary to a live-broadcast television event via (what I understand to be) a pre-recorded, non-streaming technology might prove just a little difficult to effect.

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    1. Re:Good idea, but... by ExampleUserAccount · · Score: 1

      Little late to reply, but you record the event with your DVR and then it would sync the commentary later. I never watch live TV anymore.

  33. Re:Podcast = download. Doesn't even stream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems a bit strange offering an MP3 (downloadable via another app... I can't say this enough... WHY????) - I mean who has an MP3 player on when watching the TV???

    I have an Audiotron sitting on top of my DVD player, so I can use my remote to switch back and forth between the broadcast audio and the mp3 commentary. The new episode commentary will be downloaded automatically during the week to be available whenever I feel like replaying the show. All modes of access are as one. This is, after all, the 21st century, dude.

  34. Re:Battlestar Galactica icon by Illix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In a nuclear winter, the first effect of multiple detonations would indeed be a ton of rain, as all the fallout in the air seeds tons of rainclouds. Then, as the dust blanket spreads around the planet, temperatures would plummet and the ozone layer would disintegrate due to the effects of the nitrous oxides released in the explosions. I'm fairly certain most of that constant rain has cleared up, so it should get very dark and cold soon.




    -SPOILERS-


    Baltar really is great. He's a perfect example of a character who toes the line between the "good" and "evil" sides, without committing too much to one or the other. Unlike a lot of "renegade" characters who never do anything truly objectionable, even though they might work for the other side, Baltar does things we like and things we hate.

    I also like the fact that the Cylons are monotheistic and the humans are polytheistic, insofar as they are religious. There's a tendency in our society to see monotheism as a more sophisticated or advanced philosophy, and usually when we see a polytheistic society fighting a monotheistic one, the monotheistic one is the more advanced and "good" side. Mixing it up like this really gives one an insight into how we unconsciously bias towards societies with religions similar to our own.

  35. frakking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    There is no P or C in frak, and H is right out.

  36. Overacted melodramatic tripe. by glrotate · · Score: 0, Troll

    How can anyone stand these Sci-Fi channel series?

  37. Re:While we are on the subject of the Sci-Fi Chann by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

    If you think that one was bad, you should have seen the reject (A highlander giving a sheep a reach-around).

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  38. New Behind the Scenes Video by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

    If anyone is interested, there's also a new behind the scenes video.

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  39. Re:Podcast = download. Doesn't even stream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's been a long time since I actually watched TV on a TV.

    On my computer I can easy. Mute the TV audio stream if its on and play another in its place. Or have both on at the same time. Of course the only thing that bugs me now is that I deleted that episode after I re-watched it yesterday. Guess its time to get a new HD.

  40. podcast network by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are lots of podcasts worth checking out. And there are other applications besides iPodder to subscribe with. Try Doppler. Try The Podcast Network for a range of podcasts.

  41. Re:Podcast = download. Doesn't even stream by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 1

    There's this neat new gadget. You might have heard of it. It's called an iPod. You should check it out.

    And as for why the commentary isn't included in the broadcast, the answer is obvious: Because the episode was shot and finished months ago, while the commentary was recorded Thursday.

  42. Re:Battlestar Galactica icon by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 1

    I'm fairly certain most of that constant rain has cleared up, so it should get very dark and cold soon.

    It's not widely known, I guess, but the breathless predictions of nuclear winter in the 1980s have been called into question by new simulations. While nuclear detonations certainly would put a lot of dust into the air, it's not at all clear that a full-scale nuclear war would result in the kind of planet-altering catastrophe predicted by Sagan and others. The planet is big, bigger than most folks realize, and even a full-scale superpower nuclear war between the US, the USSR and China would have resulted in detonations over only a tiny fraction of the planet's surface. If you lived in Argentina, for instance, odds are fair that you'd never even notice any change at all.

    But of course, all we have is speculation. There's no way to ever test a theory like this one experimentally. At least, no good way.

  43. Re:Battlestar Galactica icon by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

    I haven't seen the whole series yet, but I think part of what makes Baltar so compelling is that he is very human. He's not sympathetic as he's a pathological egoist (not an egotist, mind you, but an egoist), yet his frailties makes him strangely approachable.

    I think the Baltar character is evidence both of the sophistication of the writers and their belief that their audience is sophisticated enough to appreciate such a three dimensional ambiguous character.

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    It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
  44. Re:Grrrrrr. Flash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    your site is as worthless as the rest of the mainstream web

    Heh. Best comment ever. I love irony.

  45. Just the MPAA, no RIAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When Universal was bought by GE last year from Vivendi and merged with NBC to create NBC Universal, the music division stayed with Vivendi.

    The "Universal" (Studios) that owns Scifi, no longer has an interest in the "Universal" (Music Group) that is owned by Vivendi and is part of the RIAA.

  46. Re:Podcast = download. Doesn't even stream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some of us capture the program on our computers, and can switch the audio tracks quite easily. You know, in he 21st century. Dude.

  47. similarity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you mean nobody here has noticed that the "new" BSG is a very very thin propaganda vehicle that nicely parallels current american attitudes and behaviour in the light of the "war on terror" - particularly iraq? for g's sake, here in australia they are even promoting it as quote battles against "the AXIS OF EVIL" unquote (Ch. 10 yesterday). does anyone notice that the characters and plots are one dimensional, that the bad guys are completely not developed in terms of personality, motivation or belief system (to make em easier to kill, just like towelheads right?) does anyone care?

    i thought not. move along, no brain cells required here, just fan gush.

    1. Re:similarity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      does anyone notice that the characters and plots are one dimensional, that the bad guys are completely not developed in terms of personality, motivation or belief system (to make em easier to kill, just like towelheads right?) does anyone care?

      I agree, Moore should've written it so that we learned everything there is to know about Cylons, their social hierarchy, their belief system, and their relationship with humans all in the pilot. Then we could've dispensed with crap like suspense, mystery, dramatic irony, and episodes 2-13. And this business about slowly revealing the characters' personalities through their actions is complete bullshit. I need instant depth; give me a checklist or something so I can see how multidimensional everyone is.

  48. What? by Alejo · · Score: 1

    I bet you don't read newspapers or watch the news.

  49. What 'What?'? by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

    what are you on about?

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    In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
  50. I couldn't disagree more.... by jjn1056 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Actually I thought quite the opposite, I really felt it was the first thing I've seen on TV that came close to expressing how I felt on 9/11 and the subsequent actions of President Bush.

    Think about it. The Cylons are made by humans who then return to destroy us. The US CIA made Bin Laden and built up Middle Eastern dictatorships to fight the USSR and now that has come back to haunt us.

    Some of the scenes in the show really brought back hard memories for me of 9/11. I could really connect with the characters sense of loss, frustration and anger. A lot of the chaos of the time, and of the strength of the people that I saw walking downtown NYC streets as well, seemed to be well reflected.

    Other scenes I could barely watch. There's one scene in the first episode where one of the characters goes down to submit photo's of her missing family and she walks down a corridor that is literally plastered with photo's of the missing. NYC streets were just like that. Whoever wrote that must have either lived in NYC or had been exposed to life there immediately post 9/11, because that scene had pictures and little shrines with candles set up in just the same way it was at the end of my block.

    Also in the first episode they have to destroy a passenger liner that is being used to carry a nuclear device to attack the fleet, and Apollo has to destroy it, even though he is not sure if there are over 1000 people still alive on it. Although that didn't happen on 9/11 it was in the realm of possibility.

    Anyway, as for the idea that is show is some sort of propaganda for current US policy, I would say that just because there is a show with a war in it, that doesn't mean it is pro President Bush.

    I think it's more like if we had decent leadership that was wise and level headed, not flag waving and bent on war maybe we could have gotten through this experience much better. I know not everyone will agree with what I just wrote, but I hope that as someone who actually lived through a bombing you would give my opinion some weight.

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    1. Re:I couldn't disagree more.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One hundred percent I agree with you. It's refreshing for me (as a Canadian) to see that there are people in the U.S. who are starting to look at the events around 9/11 critically, without the kneejerk reactions. This show is part of that introspection.

      Take the episode with Starbuck interrogating the cylon, and beating the crap out of him. Even though the president ordered them to interrogate him, she acts all shocked when she finds out the methods they've been using (reminiscent of anything?), but of course blasts him out an airlock anyway.

      Also, the fact that the cylons look like us, that's precisely the mentality since 9/11. How can we target the terrorist when they look exactly like us, and walk among us? People were/are wondering if the brown guy down the street is the next highjacker. At the same time we learn this is exactly what the cyclons want - to spread terror. This show mirrors the feelings everyone had after 9/11.

      I don't really see where they're going with the religious aspect of it, though I note they've got the cylons in a monotheistic religion and the humans in a polytheistic one. That's odd, kind of like the roman empire (polytheistic) and the Christian religion (monotheistic), and the 2 couldn't co-exist. Obviously any religious differences parallel the current state of world affairs too.

      But yeah, I totally agree with you. I think our mutual fried from down under is a little sensitive.

    2. Re:I couldn't disagree more.... by jjn1056 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I forgot about that interrogation episode. If I remember correctly, Starbuck even says "You're not human so you don't have any rights" or something like that. It is not dissimilar to the govt. redefining what it means to be a prisoner of war in order to skirt the intent of the Geneva Treaty.

      I just rewatched the miniseries with my friend last night. After the Galactica is nuked, they have to seal off some decks, sacrificing 85 people. They get blown out of the ship that really reminded me of those terrible videos of people jumping out of WTC buildings one and two. Even the damage control people that survived that were wearing uniforms that were almost identical to the types worn by NYC firefighters.

      Yes, it is not a one to one analogy, but it is something I really notice without having to look very hard.

      Not sure what to make of the religion issue. Yeah, the humans have a weird mix of Judeo-Polytheism (yeah I know that a misnomer but what else can I call it?) but that is inherited from the previous show, so I don't think they can muck with it too much. I guess they figured to give the Cylons a monotheism in order to add a deeper motivation to their actions and to account for the fact they don't always act like total machines, and since monotheisms historically have not worked well with polytheisms it was probably a no brainer for the writer to choose.

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  51. Re:Podcast = download. Doesn't even stream by bigbigbison · · Score: 1

    My tv is so ancient it doesn't handle secondary audio, so i'm glad they do it this was. I have a laptop and listened to it on my headphones while watching it on tv.

    The main advantage to having it being downloadable via another program is that it is kind of like the old push technology so that you can subscribe to it and forget about it so that next week's episode will be downloaded automatically.

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  52. Baltar not ratting out the Cylons he testing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok,

    Can ANYONE plz explain to me why Baltar does not rat out on the ppl that he tests and finds out are Cylongs, like the most obvious being the very first girl he tests, how come in da following episode he doesnt tell anyone?!

    really weird, he tests anyone and passes them all when its obvious at least one should be a Cylong. H e says its less fuss this way, wha? so why even bother testing them, argh.

    1. Re:Baltar not ratting out the Cylons he testing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well, when you are alone in the room with the cylon (Boomer) - you start to wonder, if you tell them and their cylon consciousness takes over now that its out that shes a cylon - whats to stop her from killing Baltar on the spot. But, yea, she should've told Adama

  53. bleh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    parent watches too much Joey.

  54. Re:Battlestar Galactica icon by Illix · · Score: 1

    A full-scale superpower war would probably only target cities in the superpowers, though. Did the Cylon invasion target all cities, or just the major strategic sites? I suppose they would have only targeted strategic sites, to preserve as much as possible for their own use...but if they're after extermination, they might have just carpet-bombed the place. In that case, it might be better to compare the Cylon invasion to the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs.

    I can't find a screenshot, but I do remember that in the set shots that signal a transition to the planet's surface (a little message flashes up saying "Cylon-occupied Caprica") the planet's atmosphere looks extremely yellow and cloudy.

  55. Re:Battlestar Galactica icon by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 1

    Did the Cylon invasion target all cities, or just the major strategic sites?

    We know that it didn't target all cities with heavy weapons. At least one (unnamed) city were left basically intact but for broken windows. Later, we'll see Delphi, a city that was attacked but clearly not hit with a large nuclear weapon.

    the planet's atmosphere looks extremely yellow and cloudy

    It looked like that before, I think. I think that's just the "Caprica look." I won't swear to that, however; it's just my impression.