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Microsoft Research Showcase Explored

prostoalex writes "Every year Microsoft Research scientists show their achievements and developments at Redmond campus. Seattle Post-Intelligencer reports from Techfest, a number of other news resources and blogs are covering it. Read about network-enabled bear that allows parents to communicate with the kids, a mobile phone applications that not only checks, but predicts traffic conditions, and surface computing for digital homes." From the article: "The project isn't fully developed, but the ultimate vision is to have the stuffed animal interact with a child, doing such things as playing games and reading stories. Because the bear is on a network, a parent could also use it to interact with a child remotely -- communicating or even taking snapshots through an embedded camera."

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  1. A number of other news resources and blogs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You mean like Slashdot?

    Zonk, do you even read Slashdot? Or just when you cash the paycheck?

  2. Coolest stuff not mentioned... by moofdaddy · · Score: 4, Informative

    A friend of mine who works on the redmond campus we telling me about one of the neatest things that they were showing off which seemed to get less attention from the media and others then the rest of the products. These were more pure concept items, things that were not really going to be marketed any time soon but wanted to show off where microsoft was heading. These were networked enabled appliances. While other companies have showed these off before this was the most comphrensive I had heard of.

    Among the products included a microwave, fridge, coffee maker, toaster, dishwater and washer drier. These all tied into a control panel which could be accessed from a household computer which showed the status of each item. So if you had a load of laundry going you could see how much longer it had till it was completed. Or you could set the intensity of your toaster, etc. The neatest was the implimentation of RFID with the fridge. Using RFID tags which they believe will be on all products in the next 5 - 10 years you can look up exactly what products are left and get a full inventory. You can also set up triggers which will text your phone, send you an email, or something of that nature which will tell when something is empty or near empty.

    It appears that Redmond is looking at taking over not just your computer some day but your life as well.

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    1. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by idlake · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Among the products included a microwave, fridge, coffee maker, toaster, dishwater and washer drier. These all tied into a control panel which could be accessed from a household computer which showed the status of each item.

      Lots of companies are working on that. The thought that it is all run by software from a single company is scary. It would be even scarier if that company were Microsoft, given their track record on reliability, safety, and security.

      The neatest was the implimentation of RFID with the fridge. Using RFID tags which they believe will be on all products in the next 5 - 10 years you can look up exactly what products are left and get a full inventory.

      Again, obvious idea that lots of people have been working on.

    2. Re:Coolest stuff not mentioned... by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So if you had a load of laundry going you could see how much longer it had till it was completed. Or you could set the intensity of your toaster, etc.

      Isn't it easier just to walk up to the washer and look at the time left? Or adjust your old fashioned toaster by twisting the little nob? What's the point of placing these guys on a network?

      How much extra will this network-ability cost you?

      Can you imagine the nightmare of configuring these devices to work with your computer? MS and the vendors will claim that the configuration will be simple, but it will always be more complicated then they claim. For mp3 players and digital cameras, notice how stupid the upload/download GUIs are, when I should just be able to drag & drop the files to and from the device?

  3. Scary... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Years ago there was a component of a popular entertainment show in the UK called "My Little Friend" (I think), basically the producers would set up a soft toy (eg, teddy bear) with a speaker and place haiiden cameras in the room, then leave a child alone with the toy to draw a picture or something...when the adult was out of the way, the shows producers would sit behind the scenes and talk through the bear to the child...the children would often totally accept that the toy could speak without shock or anything, as if it were totally normal...the child would then be encouraged to have humourous conversations with the bear....hilarity ensued.

    I never really liked the segment, I often wondered if the child would be damaged by this...enough people in the world already believe in rubbish like psychics, spirits, acupuncture, homeopathy and so on, is this just going to make the situation worse? letting kids use their imaginations is one thing, helping blur the line between imagination and reality is just going to make more gullible victims for people like Sylvia Browne and her friends.

  4. Great, lets parents get more detached by moofdaddy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because the bear is on a network, a parent could also use it to interact with a child remotely -- communicating or even taking snapshots through an embedded camera.

    Great, allow parents to get even more detached from their kids. Instead of playing with their kids now a parent can sit at their computer while looking at internet porn and paying their taxes and watching their kid through the creepy bear.

    We need products that are going to allow for a more personal connection then we are doing now, not a more remote one. Vidoe conferencing and all that is great but what kids need is real connection, they need to see and play with their parents, not the bear with a camera and potentially a detached voice in it.

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  5. Surveilance anyone? by vidarlo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do we even want a device that can take a picture of children from remote? First, shoudn't we trust our kids enough to leave them in a private situation, when they think they are? Trust is basic in inter-human relationships.

    And then you can think what would happend if someone discovered a security hole in this. If it is accessible remotely, anyone could take that pic, without anyone knowing possibly. Think about kiddie porn. Would you like your kids to carry a network-enable camera all day? No? Thought so!

    1. Re:Surveilance anyone? by nkh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's the worst part of it: if I discovered that the parents I was supposed to trust were spying what I was doing, I would either have freaked out and turned into some kind of "doing nothing all day long" autist or I would have escaped from my home... What the fuck is this world I'm living in? (and don't tell me that you don't have time to raise your kids ;)

  6. Reports initially stated.. by peculiarmethod · · Score: 4, Funny

    that the original version of the beloved teddy bear was, in fact, a small wooden horse. Details at 10.

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  7. Great news by earthforce_1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Until you go into your toddlers room late one night and find the MS teddy bear repeating submliminal messages while they sleep:

    "Don't steal software"
    "Only communists use open source"
    "Support software patents"

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    1. Re:Great news by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Scream for new toys even though you have a room full of 'em"
      "Your Cell Phone needs a camera"
      "Upgrade your computer every 2 years. Buy a new car every 3 years"

  8. Proposed product name by TimmyDee · · Score: 5, Funny

    Creepy Ruxpin.

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  9. Bleurgh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One of the most scary sci-fi short stories I remember reading is about a dystopian society where children are given talking teddy bears at a young age to indoctrinate them. As a result of this conditioning, the populace doesn't act against the dictatorship. A rebellion attempt is made over the course of 20 years by a group who manages to delete some of the "never kill, even in self-defence" moral messages the teddy spouts for one young boy. But the coup fails because the young boy still believes all the rest of the crap, and kills the group instead.

    1. Re:Bleurgh by yotto · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nope, it was Asimov. The name of the story was "Robbie" and is the first in the anthology "I, Robot" which was stol^H^H^H^H used as inspiration for the movie of the same name.

      iirc, it was also the first robot story Asimov wrote.

    2. Re:Bleurgh by northcat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Great. Thanks for spoiling it for us by telling us the ending.

  10. Crappy Idea #234506 by catisonh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because the bear is on a network, a parent could also use it to interact with a child remotely -- communicating or even taking snapshots through an embedded camera.

    Here's an idea: interact with your child in person. It works better.

    I am so tired of crap like this being developed which will have absolutely no good impact on anyone. Don't you think a child can tell the difference between a stupid bear toy and his/her parents? Who is it that comes up with this crap?

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  11. The Wired Home by newdamage · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This isn't a new concept by any means. Back in the summer of 2001 I had an internship with Whirlpool working on their wired home project. We had a table PC with a web based interface that would allow us to remotely control the fridge, washer/dryer, oven, microwave, etc. It had a "cool" factor to it, but I don't think it ever made it out of R&D just because it wasn't practical at the time.

    The best implication I saw was being able to use it in conjunction with an oven that could refrigerate as well as cook, that way you could put whatever in it before you left for work, and then start it remotely from work so it'd be ready when you arrived home.

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  12. network enabled bear?? by brokencomputer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Damnit, at first i thought that said network enabled beer. :(

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  13. parenting by Quixote · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The project isn't fully developed, but the ultimate vision is to have the stuffed animal interact with a child, doing such things as playing games and reading stories. Because the bear is on a network, a parent could also use it to interact with a child remotely -- communicating or even taking snapshots through an embedded camera

    When will parents stop relegating their childrens' upbringing to toys (including TV) and start giving the children what is rightfully theirs: a human touch? If you can't be bothered to play a central role in your child's life, then don't have a child!

    1. Re:parenting by ergo98 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When will parents stop relegating their childrens' upbringing to toys (including TV) and start giving the children what is rightfully theirs: a human touch? If you can't be bothered to play a central role in your child's life, then don't have a child!

      What a load of shit. I'm speaking in generalities as that's how your painted with your righteous brush, rather than specifically about this rather dubious bear.

      Perhaps I'm a little sensitive about this given that I actually have a child with another on the way shortly, compared to the countless armchair parents out there espousing their great views on parenting.

      This toy, like television, video games, books, puzzles, or whatever, is a part of the complex environment that you can immerse your child in so that they can get the most out of life, learning while enjoying the ride. This absurd ideology that True Parenting(TM) means sitting interacting with your child every waking minute of every day is the height of idiocy, not only psychologically unreasonable but not being based in anything close to reality. Children seek out and love independent play, and it's a critical element of their upbringing.

  14. Stuffed Animal != Good Parent by reporter · · Score: 3, Insightful
    From the article: "The project isn't fully developed, but the ultimate vision is to have the stuffed animal interact with a child, doing such things as playing games and reading stories. Because the bear is on a network, a parent could also use it to interact with a child remotely -- communicating or even taking snapshots through an embedded camera."


    Anyone who thinks that a stuffed animal is a good substitute for the presence of a parent is bonkers. Imagine this scenario. The father is too obsessed with working at his startup company, so he buys one of these stuffed animals, say, a bear with network-control capability. He puts the bear in the kid's room and heads off to work. At the office, he activates his Web browser and remotely controls the bear with a Web form. Now, imagine the father acting in this way for a year.

    Do you think that such behavior is good parenting? Such parenting is probably the first step to child abuse.

    Perhaps, I am the oddball in this forum. I think that technology should facilitate the human experience instead of replacing it.

  15. Re:Why would I trust a Microsoft fridge? by bergwitz · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, you should probably go for the Fridgefox instead! No more spyfood and annoying pop-up vegetables.

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  16. Now... by EMIce · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...the bear wouldn't look anything like this, now would it?

    1. Re:Now... by Taladar · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, it wouldn't look like a 403 Forbidden Error.

  17. Animals, non-beleivers respond to accupuncture by xtermin8 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When doctors prescribe millions of people Vioxx, Prozac to teenagers, and countless medications without long term studies or independent monitoring, I think its ridiculous to criticize accupuncture. I you were a health professional, you would realize how little is known about the mechanisms of the 'chemical experiments' that pass for health care in the United States. Its interesting also how much health insurance companies pay for chiropractic care. Until Allopathic doctors have adequate scientific data for their treatments, I'll continue to go to my accupuncturist I formerly worked in "Western,"scientific health care myself- no longer.

  18. Timed to coincide with patent vote tomorrow? by NigelJohnstone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wonder if this 'MICROSOFT IS INNOVATIVE' story is time to conincide with the patent vote in Europe tomorrow.

    Lets see MSN Desktop search....
    http://desktop.google.com/

    Teddy bear running windows...
    http://www.aibo-europe.com/

    Navigating photo libraries....
    http://www.flickr.com/ ?

    TouchLight,
    http://www.minorityreport.com/ ..predicts upcoming traffic conditions..
    http://www.its.berkeley.edu/conferen ces/trb/00326. pdf

    1. Re:Timed to coincide with patent vote tomorrow? by BasilBrush · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, they got the Touchlight idea from Minority Report, and the computer teddy from AI. It seems Microsoft Researches technique to be innovative is to watch Sci-Fi movies and try to recreate what they see there using Windows. And why not? After all, they got their business model from Michael Douglas in Wall Street - the "Greed is Good" speech.

  19. Re:Why would I trust a Microsoft fridge? by kootsoop · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not to mention the Blue Quiche of Death.

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  20. Windows, lans and stuffed animals? by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The project isn't fully developed, but the ultimate vision is to have the stuffed animal interact with a child, doing such things as playing games and reading stories. Because the bear is on a network, a parent could also use it to interact with a child remotely -- communicating or even taking snapshots through an embedded camera."

    Can you say "Chucky"?????

    I can't envision a more terrifying concept...

  21. In the not-too-distant future by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Because the bear is on a network, a parent could also use it to interact with a child remotely -- communicating or even taking snapshots through an embedded camera."

    June 18, 2007
    Threat Advisory from McAfee AVERT

    Virus/Worm Identifier: W32/Bear.A

    Threat Level: Critical

    Threat Pathology
    After being infected, MS-Snoogums(TM) performs one of the following four tasks, chosen apparently at random.

    1) MS-Snoogums will attempt to strangle the nearest child.
    2) MS-Snoogums will begin swearing and berating any child in the room.
    3) If the child is identifiably female (using simple pattern-matching algorithms against three jpegs embedded in the code), MS-Snoogums will make choose lewd comments from a catalog of 47 built into its codebase.
    4) MS-Snoogums will attempt to persuade the child to transport him to the nearest Wells Fargo branch. If successful, MS-Snoogums will use built-in IrDA port to hack Diebold Windows XP Embedded cash machines. Records are altered to show withdrawal from account of one "I. P. Nightly".

    System Protection and Cure
    McAfee AVERT is currently tracking the vendor response. Vendor recommends all children be provided with MS-My-First-Shotgun immediately as a protective measure.

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  22. In geek terms... by hachete · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...none of this sems like real cutting-edge. None of this is going to change my world. How much do they spend on research?

    IMO, once you're hooked into some huge dinosaur like MS office, you don't let go until you or it dies. And you don't do any fancy research on the side. Take for example Longhorn. That's looking more like Duke Nukem every day. And mark my words, when that appears, it won't be as revolutionary as the spin makes out. It will still have to run MS Office so it can't be that revolutionary or one of the only products that makes a profit for MS will die. Therein lies the catch.

    I've heard the term roach motel applied to MS and this is it. All that expensive talent goes in and we get, what, a teddy-bear? Uh-uh. At least with google, expensive talent produces goods, things that make me go "ah". MSN makes stuff that makes me go "yuck". Amd I guess therein the difference lies.

    h

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    1. Re:In geek terms... by cgenman · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just so that people know, the bear idea is many years old, and was from Japan

      here is a practical application of it, note the date on the article. Here is another take. Note this was out in the field in 2000.

      There was also a great telepresence robot bear pair, whereby moving one robot bear would move the resultant other robot bear at the other end of the phone line, but I can't seem to find a link to it.