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Samsung Cell Phone Features 3GB Hard Drive

An anonymous reader writes "Samsung will be showing off a new cell phone which runs on Microsoft's Windows Mobile operating system which features a built-in hard drive. The SGH-I300 will offer 3GB of storage which allows you to store up to 1,000 songs on it for playback through the music player. The 3GB hard drive is similar to the type of hard drive that is found in Apple's Mini iPod. These 1-inch drives with very low power requirements, are ideal for cell phones and other mobile devices."

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  1. More Details by fembots · · Score: 5, Informative

    The friendly article is pretty light on details, given it's overclockerclub.com.

    Engadget stated that the phone supports MP3, WMA, AAC, and AAC+ audio files, and a plug-and-play drag-and-drop no-brainer way of transferring files as you please.

    1. Re:More Details by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 2, Informative

      1) Go with Spring PCS and get the Unlimited Vision package for $10 per month for all you can eat internet access on your phone - then you don't have to worry about it. I have a Treo 600 with Sprint and I can download a whole lot o' data for only $10 per month.

      2) The only way most people are going to be able to get one of these phones is to buy it through their cellular provider - almost every (if not every) smart phone out there is carrier specific and has custom firmware that ties it to the carrier. Most carriers are not going to enable features that allow their users to get free access to anything that they could be selling them instead. Sure, a lot of these phones can be unlocked and used on another carrier using the same cell technology, but only if they install the custom firmware for that provider. Very few people buy an unlocked phone directly from the manufacturer (with no discount) and use it this way.

      3) There are alternatives to having 802.11 built in that make better sense to the manufacturer/retailer of the phone. Building it into the phone increases the cost of the phone and if the phones are too expensive, noone will buy them, thus reducing possible profits. Either add a WiFi SDIO card (like the Treo 650 allows) or other WiFi accessory (the Treo 600, for example, has a WiFi Sled available) that gives you 802.11 connectivity.

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  2. Amazing how far things have come by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That's amazing how far things have come. I remember only ten years ago we were lucky to have 3GB in a desktop computer let alone something like a phone :lol:. then again most of us didn't have or need cellphones :shakehead:

    Makes you wonder if we'll have 120 and 200GB drives in our cell phones in 2015 :worry:

    1. Re:Amazing how far things have come by Golias · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Makes you wonder if we'll have 120 and 200GB drives in our cell phones in 2015 :worry:

      You worry about that?

      Luddite.

      By 2015, I want a cell phone with a 200GB HD installed sub-dermally in my jaw!

      And where's my damn flying car!?!?!?

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    2. Re:Amazing how far things have come by servognome · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Makes you wonder if we'll have 120 and 200GB drives in our cell phones in 2015 :worry:
      Why would a phone need a hard drive in the future? I would imagine you could have an advanced wi-fi type internet phone, that does VOIP, and allows you to access your home network to allow you to stream music and movies directly to your phone. It would also be able to take pictures/video and stream them directly to your computer at home.

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  3. now featuring Spyware on your Phone by jephthah · · Score: 2, Insightful


    yay. thanks.

  4. Maybe I should just RTFA... by pjt48108 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...but how long do you think it will be, before this opens up the door to massive conversation-recording? All it needs is an ambitious hacker, right? You have the phone, and you have an integrated audio storage device. Oy, the possibilities...

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    1. Re:Maybe I should just RTFA... by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Informative
      > It could come as an option out of the box. Recording conversations in which you're involved is NOT illegal (as far as i know) - and it could actually be very useful in certain situations.

      That depends on what state (of the US) you're in.

      In some states, both parties have to consent to the call's being recorded, and/or an audible "beep" has to play at specified intervals as a reminder that the call is being recorded.

      You could actually do this in firmware; cell phones have locator technologies, and are theoretically capable (over the data stream as a back channel) of exchanging information regarding in which state each party to a call is physically present.

      From that, it's a small set of if/then logic to work out whether the "beep" comes on automatically, and/or whether consent is required ("Press 'GO' to consent to monitoring") of more than one party to the call.

      There lots of legitimate (banking/finance) commercial applications where users (both clients and brokers, for instance) might want their calls recorded.

      Of course, real men don't need recording devices to back up their phone conversations. They just casually mention materials that have high neutron cross sections, mention the curve of binding energy a few times, and NSA records their calls for them.

  5. Apple vs Microsoft by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "The 3GB hard drive is similar to the type of hard drive that is found in Apple's Mini iPod."

    But Apple has the good sense not to try to cram OS X-mini onto the iPod hard disk. Instead a much simpler, special purpose OS does the job simply and well. But cram Windows-mini onto a hard disk, and well, you've wasted a lot of space for no real valid reason.

    Plus the delicious treat of viruses headed your way as a brand new target sits there and says, "Attack me, please."

    Why can't people realize that special-purpose devices work best with special-purpose OSes?

    1. Re:Apple vs Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Except that Windows Mobile *is* a special-purpose OS. Are you actually trying to say that it's some kind of subset of XP? Wrong.

      Anyone out there who has done some development on Windows Mobile ... what is your estimate of the size of the OS? 64 MB maybe?

      Oh noes, 64 MB taken on a 3 GB drive!!!11

    2. Re:Apple vs Microsoft by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's interesting how everyday devices are getting less and less stable. My new DVD drive has locked up on me several times. My PVR/cable box has unceremoniously virtual-BSOD and restarted several times, cars electronics are crashing, and soon cell phones. Progress?
      It's progress for the following people:

      - the manufacturer who gets to sell you another one
      - the shipping carrier who couriers the RMA package from
      - the retailer who gets to sell you another one or maybe something else while you're there
      - the tech support rep who gets to log another call
      - the manufacturer again when they refurb your device and sell it to a bargain basement OEM
      - the OEM who makes a tidy profit on the refurbed parts sold as new

      The disposable culture is a huge step backward for society, but because so many people can make money off of it, it's considered progress, at least in legal terms.

    3. Re:Apple vs Microsoft by brer_rabbit · · Score: 2, Funny
      Except that Windows Mobile *is* a special-purpose OS.

      Windows Mobile certainly is special, kind of like how the short school bus is special.

  6. In related news... by bartyboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Samsung announced today their new line of hernia belts and corsets. "These will keep our customers from injuring themselves when they have to lift our new phone," said the CEO of Samsung.

  7. When did the 'song' become the standard... by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...unit of memory? I guess we can blame it on Apple. How long before we start seeing hard drives advertised as storing megasongs or gigasongs? My first computer didn't even hold a millisong!

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    1. Re:When did the 'song' become the standard... by Mantorp · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think that's when feature length dvds and libraries of congress take over.

    2. Re:When did the 'song' become the standard... by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm using the classic system, how many songs to the midi?

    3. Re:When did the 'song' become the standard... by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 2, Funny

      More importantly, how many station wagons full of tapes is that? And, if I try to figure out how many of those phones will fit in a station wagon, will that result in the formation of a black hole?

  8. Re:My cell phone... by generic-man · · Score: 5, Informative

    So get a Nokia 6010, T-Mobile's bottom of the line, and quit your bitching.

    There are plenty of cheap, boring phones that work primarily as phones. They don't get much attention from the tech press because they don't have any useless whizbang features.

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  9. Over 1,000 songs...blah blah blah. by vidarlo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I never tought I was gonna see this at slashdot, it is mainly marketing buzzwords. How many songs depends on bitrate! If they by this means that the FS only can handle 1,000 files (I guess not), then this is bad.

    1. Re:Over 1,000 songs...blah blah blah. by jxyama · · Score: 2, Insightful
      indicating the capacity with the number of songs may have started as a marketing tool, but it is increasingly becoming popular. the main memory consuming use of these HD is for music anyway.

      car's gas milage depends heavily on the driving condition/pattern. so what? it's still a fairly useful metric. same thing here.

  10. Re:Perhaps... by BarryNorton · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Every time there's an article on mobile phones on Slashdot, there's some smug little luddite like yourself posts: why isn't a phone just a phone and a word processor just a typewriter? Why does it need a hard drive? Because I carry a HDD-based music player and a phone and I'd rather just carry one device that dips the volume on my music when the phone rings, like the mp3 players in phones used to, but with more storage. Who are you to tell me I shouldn't have that? Who are you to say a very successful company hasn't done their market research? Just go back to sleep...

  11. Re:My cell phone... by PopeAlien · · Score: 5, Funny

    I want a cell phone that doesnt recieve calls.

    I want it to take good pictures, check my email, sync to my server, play music, browse the web and have a fold out QWERTY keyboard.. I want a big color screen, weeks of battery life, kinetic charging, and it needs to fit in my pocket and be very light.

    but it should NEVER recieve incoming calls, thats just a nuisance and needless distraction.

  12. Your needs do not govern anybody else by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is silly. Every time a new cell phone appears which has features somebody doesn't like, they post another ridiculous rant like yours, as if nobody should ever manufacture something YOU don't want.

    Did Jesus die and leave you in charge? Is your name GW Bush by any chance?

    And some other idiot moderated your post as insightful. Yeh, right.

    1. Re:Your needs do not govern anybody else by Mantorp · · Score: 5, Funny
      Did Jesus die...

      That sounds familiar, let me google it, I'll let you know.

  13. Battery life by ColonelFubster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Those hard drives must be hell on battery life, low-power or not.

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  14. And if you have US Cellular... by Overzeetop · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...you still won't be able to get anything onto or off of that drive without paying for both a monthly subscription and a per-file fee.

    (USCC will sell you a camera phone, but thy have disabled the phone to disallow the use of a local connection cable to upload or download any audio or graphics. Nice, huh.)

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  15. this Sparc... by J_Omega · · Score: 2, Funny

    3GB?!? That's 3x more HD space than this Sparcstation5 I'm trying to install linux on. Cripes!

  16. Mod parent up! by Local+ID10T · · Score: 2, Informative

    Exactly.

    Make my phone a phone. I already have a laptop. Just make the phone work more reliably and for longer periods at a time.

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    1. Re:Mod parent up! by mattyrobinson69 · · Score: 2, Informative

      nokia 1100 - great phone.

  17. Re:My cell phone... by Dejohn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Then this is probably not the device for you. Don't buy it?

  18. What I'm looking for by gillbates · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is a cell phone that does everything. Yes, I've heard the whining from people who just want a cell phone to be a phone, but from my perspective, the fewer devices I have to manage, the better.

    Imagine you're going on vacation. You could pack:

    • Your camcorder
    • MP3 player
    • digital camera
    • PDA
    • Personal video player
    • Personal tv
    • Cellphone
    Or, you could just take your:
    • Cellphone

    Right now, we do have the technology to incorporate all of these features into one device with the form factor of a small notebook or PDA. Instead, people spend 5 times the amount of money on discrete appliances, and then have the added burden of having to carry them all. And then they whine because their phone isn't just a phone - as if they enjoy having dozens of electronic gadgets lying around the house, waiting to get lost, stolen, forgotten, etc...

    I'm tired of using a dozen different gadgets to do what could easily be integrated into one. If cellphone manufacturers are going to break into new markets, their phones are going to have to be more than just phones.

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    1. Re:What I'm looking for by goldspider · · Score: 5, Funny
      Why stop there? Here's what I expect in a cell phone (one that weighs less than 6 oz. too):

      camcorder

      MP3 player

      digital camera

      PDA

      Personal video player

      Personal tv

      Cellphone

      toothbrush and toothpaste

      shampoo AND conditioner

      toilet paper

      hairbrush

      credit cards

      week's worth of clothing

      golf clubs

      my car

      Chinese hooker

      Anyone who doesn't think these belong in a phone is simply a luddite who resists technological evolution.

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    2. Re:What I'm looking for by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Right now, we do have the technology to incorporate all of these features into one device with the form factor of a small notebook or PDA. Instead, people spend 5 times the amount of money on discrete appliances, and then have the added burden of having to carry them all. "

      Well... I think you're both getting the point and then missing it at the same time.

      A lot of Slashdotters in a rush to get the first +3 Insightful are quick to poo-poo integration. They don't care about a camera in a cell phone because it only does 640 by 480 and they've got some whiz-bang digital camera that does 5 megapixels. They paid considerably more for that camera, and they also got considerably better quality out of it. The point has been made ad-nauseum here that the more something can do, the less competent it is at doing it. It's a valid point. However, this is where they miss they miss the point entirely: That 5 megapixel camera is only good when you have it on you to use. Common sense, right? You'd think so, but when people poo-poo phones with cameras built in, they suddenly forget this point. (Race to get that +3 Insightful?) A cell phone is a nice convergence device because it stays with people at all times. I go to work: There's my cell phone. I go to an arcade: There's my cell phone. I take my family out to dinner: There's my cell phone. I take a dump: There's my cell phone. (yeah yeah, I know that'll attract smart ass comments, oh well.) Would I take my 5mp camera to an arcade? Dinner with the family? Not likely. While I'm taking a... err. Okay, that was a really bad example. I was actually thinking more about cell phone with built in games/internet etc. You get the point. Value. My cell phone does MORE. It may not be perfect, but it's better than nothing. I have photos of my nephew being silly at dinner that I simply would not have captured if my phone didn't have a camera. (I could keep going but I think the point was made right there.)

      I mentioned before that you got the point and then missed it. I think you get what I just said above. I think you understand why having this stuff in a cell phone is cool for a lot of people. But what I'm really replying to is "you're going on vacation". Ugh. That wouldn't be my first example. A stronger example would have been "going on a spontaneous trip". The "master of none" point still very much applies. You want a 5 megapixel photo of the Grand Canyon.

      So, yes, I agree: Cell phone convergence == generally good. Moaning about new features in cell phones == generally obnoxious.

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    3. Re:What I'm looking for by Rocko's+Modurn+Life · · Score: 3, Insightful
      So that when I lose my phone on my vacation, or it drops and breaks into 5 million peices I also lose my:
      • Camcorder
      • mp3 player
      • digital camera
      • PDA
      • personal video player
      • personal tv (??!)
      • cellphone
      or I could just lose my:
      • cellphone
      All this consolidation isn't a boon. I don't have masses of electronic items lying around waiting to get lost and honestly the only thing a phone should have in addition to the phone is the pda feature, since it can tell time and has a calendar. Everything else is extravagance that only adds to the price the manufacturer can charge. Better make sure to get that extended warranty/replacement plan!
    4. Re:What I'm looking for by NeMon'ess · · Score: 2

      An Apple Shuffle is $99. If a cellphone can duplicate that simple functionality and only cost $50 more than a similar model that does everything but mp3s, that would be a good deal to me.

      If I wanted a low-end, HD-based camcorder which used the same HD to playback video, and could use a TV module for playing and saving TV, even better. Yeah it might get lost, stolen, or crushed, but if it costs $700 instead of $400 + 400 + 100(TV), I might think it's worth it.

      Combine all of the above in one device for considerably less than the individual parts, and it might be worth the risk, depending on my lifestyle and plans for using it.

  19. Swiss-Army Phones by bigtallmofo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Do you think in some secret lab somewhere deep within the walls of a mobile phone company there are prototypes of cell phones with all sorts of things attached to them?

    Things to Try Mounting on Phone:
    Philips-Head Screwdriver
    Can Opener
    Scissors
    Deathray

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  20. Yay for Single Point Of Failure! by simetra · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Now there's a way to lose your phone and mp3 player at the same time!


    Personally, I don't even want a portable phone, as people tend to annoy me.


    When will this end? What's next, a pacemaker with built-in mp3?

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  21. Re:My cell phone... by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "I just want a phone."

    Whoop-de-shit. Why'd you even read the article to begin with?

    I wouldn't mind, but this exact same stupid comment keeps getting modded up in every single "coooool cell phone!" story. Frankly, it's getting old, and it's really starting to smell like a cheap "gimme karma" comment.

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  22. Re:Perhaps... by Urkki · · Score: 3, Interesting
    • ...but first you need to convince me why a cell phone needs a hard drive to begin with.

    Nah, it's not about if you need one or not (of course you do). What I'd need to be convinced about is, will the hard drive survive when I drop the phone while riding a bicycle and it hits the pavement and it's parts are thrown all around. Any current phone can handle that kind of repeated abuse pretty well (well, at least my Nokias have...).

    No, mobile phone isn't a place for moving parts... Solid state all the way is the only way.
  23. The real question is... by cybrthng · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can you play the MP3's as hold music?

  24. SMS and phone call saved on HD ? by aepervius · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I mean, it is rather ralatively lackluster on detail, but if the HD is only for song and photo snapshot this is a utter waste. It would be interresting if this can also be used to save SMS data (and on 3 gb you can save a lot) or phone call... THAT last feature would be rather nice. There is a lot of phone call I would wish I had a way to save it ...

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  25. I know this is touted as "convergence"... by jpellino · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...but come on - I guess I could conceivably end up with an uber-gadget that is my phone, gps, iPod, PDA, universal remote, pedometer, Speedpass, web browser, biometric verifier, flash drive, camera, pager, video player, voice activated game console, garage door opener, pill timer, and nose hair trimmer, but do I want it?

    It's pretty much the current definition of jack of all trades, master of none. The browsers all suck wind from the first click. No way the phone camera matches the 4MP with optical zoom and full controls. With my luck, I'd go to open the garage door and dial the Pentagon, who'd read the fix from my GPS and catch me screaming "Attack! Attack! - No, use the sniper rifle!" in the middle of a Halo session...

    So it's really just a away of any one manufacturer making sure you buy the whiz-bangiest phone instead of someone else's.

    What if I lose it? Right now I keep track of my GPS, iPod, camera and cell phone. Suppose I lose one device. I'm either out a copy of my music, or my most recent photos, or a location fix, or my phone. Lose the uber-device and I'm out all of them at once.

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  26. Re:Don't drop it by hsmith · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just dropping? What about getting pissed off and throwing it across the room. Or what about drunken stoopers where you drop it in the toilet! hasn't happened to me, but many a friend. cell phones now can dry and and be usable, but what about ones with a disk drive?

  27. Re:Perhaps... by BarryNorton · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Why is it that whenever someone suggests that any technology might be excessive, they are met with such angry retribution?
    ... because they ask stupid questions like "why is it needed?"?

    It's not needed - none of it is needed. The questions are: is it possible? is there a market? is there a reason not to?

    It's hypocritical reading this site then not allowing the same enthusiasm that applies to computers, software, television etc. to be expressed about mobile phones just because they're not as popular in America as in Europe and Japan.

    We Europeans don't jump on the HDTV stories as soon as there posted and say 'why's that needed?'... even if we do think it ;)

  28. Re:My cell phone... by LucidBeast · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thats how my Nokia 9500 Communicator gets when I don't pay my phone bill

  29. Re:My cell phone... by mgranit11 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I agree. Cameras are the worst thing that has ever happened to the cell phone industry. I wish the companikes would concentrate on the phone part, and once we matered that, then move to new things.

  30. Re:Perhaps... by ncc74656 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Every time there's an article on mobile phones on Slashdot, there's some smug little luddite like yourself posts: why isn't a phone just a phone and a word processor just a typewriter? Why does it need a hard drive?

    The question I've not seen asked yet is this:

    What happens when you drop it?

    Hard drives typically don't like being dropped. Cell phones, being handheld devices, stand a good chance of getting dropped. I fumblefingered my Ericsson T610 within 24 hours of getting it. It has a ding in the case where it hit the pavement, but it still works. A few years ago, I had a Motorola i1000 fly out the passenger window onto a freeway overpass. I parked my car, walked out onto the overpass, and retrieved the phone. It was a little bit scratched up, but it still worked. Will you be able to say the same for a hard-drive-equipped cell phone after it slipped and fell?

    Flash storage density is up to at least 4 GB now. (That's the largest CompactFlash card (not a Microdrive) I've seen at Fry's; there might well be something even larger on the market already.) That would be a better match for a cell phone than a hard drive. Flash doesn't suffer head crashes when it's dropped.

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  31. I'm not a fan of whizz-bang cellphones, BUT: by TexVex · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So, my phone is just about as basic as it could get, and most of the bare minimum features it came with, I'm just not using. I store about two dozen phone numbers on it, I call people, I accept incoming calls, and I use my voicemail. I've never used text messaging, or played a game on my cell phone. I don't want my phone to be a substandard camera; if I want to take pictures I want a multi-megapixel digital jobbie with real optics in it. I think pop music ringtones are just stupid; I keep my phone in my pocket on vibrate most of the time just so I don't come off as a giant anus every time someone rings me up when I'm in a public place.

    But, instead of just ranting about how I think all this extra whizz-bang is wasteful, stupid, and whatnot, I spent a couple minutes thinking about what I *would* like to have in my cellphone. What extra feature would I pay to have? I've got a good idea. A genius one:

    Television and Radio. Once, many years ago, I owned a handheld backlit LCD television. It was a thing of beauty; a few ounces of mass, a two-inch screen, and a telescoping antenna. It was great to have in lots of places. It had a 1/8" mono jack for plugging in headphones or an earpiece. Its integrated speaker was adequate as well.

    Now, this was about ten years ago. I know the technology for LCDs has come a long way. I know that device would easily fit into a cellphone today. So, do it. And add AM/FM radio. Then, give me TiVo functionality for the TV and radio (I'm sure the television video scaled down for the phone display would compress pretty damn well!). If my phone had all that, I could justify paying for a hard drive in it.

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  32. stability by Brandon+Dowell · · Score: 2, Funny

    Windows on a Cell phone? I can see it how: "Hey man, I lost you, did you drive under a tunnel or something?" "No... My phone just BSOD'ed."

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  33. Re:My cell phone... by generic-man · · Score: 2, Informative

    Go to any cell phone store and ask to see the least expensive phone they stock. Sure, companies will try to sell you a feature-packed phone, but there are always options that involve little cash for a very low-end phone.

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  34. "We're sorry... by suitepotato · · Score: 2, Funny

    ..but your call cannot be completed at this time. Please run a complete surface scan and try your call again. This is a recording."

    If the drives are modular and easily removable, I smell a great line of repair work to get into.

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  35. Get Cingular/AT&T... by WiseWeasel · · Score: 2, Informative

    I know Verizon does the same thing, so that they can sell you ringtones and graphics, and charge you for data transfers with the data plans. Since I got AT&T (now Cingular) I'm able to transfer sounds (ringtones) pictures and themes over BlueTooth (USB optional) to my computer without hassle. That alone is worth getting Cingular (the excellent nationwide coverage, kick-ass GSM phones and rollover minutes are also nice). The only thing you can't transfer directly to the computer is the games. US Cellular is quite possibly the most user-hostile provider in existence, not to mention being expensive and using the crappy CDMA network and phones.

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  36. A 3GB hard drive but it has windows.. by t_allardyce · · Score: 2, Funny

    ..its like putting a sexy thong on your granny.

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