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Build Your Own Bluetooth Sniper Rifle

Jim Buzbee writes "I don't think I'd do it, but these guys built a Bluetooth Sniper rifle, went to the roof of a downtown Los Angles skyscraper and pointed it at nearby buildings. See what they found, and if you're so inclined, they'll show how to build your own and maybe, just maybe, you too can snag Paris Hilton's address book." (Which was not snagged via Bluetooth snooping, as the article points out.) This version looks a bit more polished than the one mentioned last August.

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  1. Frightening, ? by fembots · · Score: 4, Interesting

    After the DC Sniper incident, this gave me a fright as I thought someone has built a bluetooth-guided sniper rifle, which indicates when your bullet is aligned perfectly with your target's bluetooh tag, and those who auto-accept Bluetooth pairing are in trouble.

    Seriously though, I wonder how many people do auto-accept BT connections? My PDA only accepts known pairs, so you need to physically talk to me to pair you up for the first time.

    The friendly article seems to mentioned the "success" in BT detection, but didn't go in details of successful connection. It's like car thieves claim to detect 20,000 cars in the city centre, but didn't say how many were unlocked.

    1. Re:Frightening, ? by YetAnotherAnonymousC · · Score: 4, Informative

      Fear not. Perfectly aligned in the EM wave sense does not equal correct alignment in the mass/bullet sense. One must adjust for windage, for one thing. For another, even if you could get the range via bluetooth, the parabollic trajectory of the bullet (some calibres are 'flatter' than others, and even different manufacturers) must be taken into account based on that range.

    2. Re:Frightening, ? by dirvish · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Seriously though, I wonder how many people do auto-accept BT connections? My PDA only accepts known pairs, so you need to physically talk to me to pair you up for the first time.

      I imagine most people just use the default setting...

    3. Re:Frightening, ? by back_pages · · Score: 4, Funny
      Fear not. Perfectly aligned in the EM wave sense does not equal correct alignment in the mass/bullet sense. One must adjust for windage, for one thing. For another, even if you could get the range via bluetooth, the parabollic trajectory of the bullet (some calibres are 'flatter' than others, and even different manufacturers) must be taken into account based on that range.

      Yeah, no kidding! Gosh, if someone aimed EXACTLY at my blue-tooth cell phone, held up to my ear, by the time the bullet traveled 300 yards it would be AT LEAST 12 inches lower and 2 or 3 inches to either side! HA! The joke is on them!

      Eh..

    4. Re:Frightening, ? by andkaha · · Score: 2, Funny

      ... until someone builds a easy-to-carry and effective laser/microwave-based weapon...

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    5. Re:Frightening, ? by Bilestoad · · Score: 2, Funny

      It certainly looks menacing. I would not stand on top of a building and point it at windows in downtown L.A. if you paid me. A lot.

    6. Re:Frightening, ? by Pepsi__Blue · · Score: 4, Informative

      Don't say at least, ecause some sniper rifles are capable of much better performance, although they are very costly. For example, the Barrett M82A1 has an MOA of 1.5-2.0 or about 4.5"-6" drift at 300 yards. Additionally, the drift depends on the angle at which the rifle is fired, even if it is aimed directly at your phone. If you're shot at from above or below there will be an additional downwards component of the bullet's velocity working with the force of gravity causing the bullet to fall faster, whereas if you are up high and shot from below there will be an upwards component of the bullet's velocity working with gravity to decrease the drift of the bullet.

      just a remiander (in the absence of air resistance, and bullets are designed for minimal air resistance)

      Dy = 0.5(-32 ft/s/s)(Dt)^2 + v*sin(a)(Dt)
      Dt = (Dx)/(v*cos(a))

      so:
      Dy = 0.5(-32 ft/s/s)((Dx)/(v*cos(a)) + (Dx)tan(a)

      where:

      a=angle
      v=inital velocity
      Dt= change in time
      Dx= change in horizontal position
      Dy= change in vertical position

      therefore, if a is between 0 and 90 degrees there will be less drift than if a is between -90 and 0 degrees.

    7. Re:Frightening, ? by pi_rules · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Yeah, no kidding! Gosh, if someone aimed EXACTLY at my blue-tooth cell phone, held up to my ear, by the time the bullet traveled 300 yards it would be AT LEAST 12 inches lower and 2 or 3 inches to either side! HA! The joke is on them!
      You're pretty close actually, accoding to Sniper Central typical .308 168 grain bullets when zeroed at 100 yards will drop about 16" and have a drift of about 7" in a 10mph crosswind.

      Now if you were to go with the .223 cartridge as the DC "Sniper" did you're looking at about 10.5" of drop and 14 inches of drift in 10mph crosswinds.

      Just an FYI.
    8. Re:Frightening, ? by node+3 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, the parabolic issue is just math, so that's no problem.

      As for the issue of wind--you could use the cell phone's internet connection to check the weather.

      And if you miss? Have the camera snap a photo so you can see where the bullet hit, and compensate for the next shot.

      This could be a movie...

      The trailer:

      [fade in, city street scene, zoom in on businessman's cell phone, it reads 'accessing weather net...']

      Raspy Voice Guy: "In a high tech world gone mad, your cell phone can kill you..."

      [fast fade out with gunshot sound]

      RVG: "From 200 yards away."

      [abrupt music 'attack', then fast and disconcerting drums, lot's of quick shots of a normal city street life interspersed with people looking up from their phones to some distant skyscraper window]

      RVG: "This summer, in theaters everywhere, your phone bluetooths you."

    9. Re:Frightening, ? by Aranwe+Haldaloke · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Fear not"? While a disregard for ballistics might make the sniper miss your head, the bullet could as well end up going through your torso or legs or what-have-you.

      It's like saying, "dude, I'm gonna die," and someone quickly correcting you, "no, you'll just be lethally wounded with an actual chance of survival."

    10. Re:Frightening, ? by Taladar · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or you could just sell it to the theaters as a solution for cell phone users in the theater annoying other customers.

    11. Re:Frightening, ? by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Insightful
      You're proud to be a fucking murdering bastard ?

      Though you've been modded down for the flamebait monger you are, and I know I shouldn't feed trolls, I feel compelled to address this idiocy. First, murder is a legal term, roughly defined as "the unlawful taking a human life". Now, since hunting animals is neither unlawful nor taking human life, you're an idiot (actually the correct conclusion is that it's not murder, but I like the idiot one better). Second, even if we ignore the misuse of the word murder and get to the premise of your position, i.e. that killing animals is a bad thing, this leads to other flaws in your position. Are coyotes "bad" for killing rabbits? Are house cats "bad" for killing birds? Humans hunt ungulates like deer and elk to keep their populations down. If we didn't, they'd overpopulate and starve to death in the winter. But I guess sensitive people like you would rather see hundreds of deer die of malnutrition and those that survive suffer the pain of hunger, rather than hunt enough of them to keep there numbers stable.

      Moron.

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    12. Re:Frightening, ? by strider44 · · Score: 3, Funny

      remind me not to piss you off.

    13. Re:Frightening, ? by mollymoo · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Basically, humans should not mess with nature, let it be itself.

      What are we, aliens? No, we're animals from the planet Earth. By far the best damn animals the planet has ever seen, but still animals. We evolved. We are part of nature. The Interweb is just as natural as a beaver's dam.

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    14. Re:Frightening, ? by 1u3hr · · Score: 3, Funny
      Bluetooth is a short-range protocol. It doesn't transmit but, what, 20 feet at max?

      The whole point of TFA is that the "rifle" can connect to bluetooth devices up to 1 km away.

      Unfortunately, the gun nuts are all talking about muzzle velocity, flash suppressors, one bullet one kill, etc, and starting brush wars about the 2nd amendment, as is their wont, so no one is actually discussing TFA anyway...

    15. Re:Frightening, ? by Dun+Malg · · Score: 3, Insightful
      No offense, but your viewpoint is missing a key piece because you chose to ignore it, i.e. human have been on Earth for approxamatly 10,000 years,

      Ten thousand? Try 2 million.

      Animals in general have been around a lot longer, so you need to consider that animals clearly can take care of themselves

      We're animals too. Us hunting is as natural as a coyote hunting. We do not exist outside of nature. We are part of nature.

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    16. Re:Frightening, ? by Almost-Retired · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bah, go study up on exterior balistics my friend. Gravity, acting on the bullet is straight down, but if the bullet isn't traveling perfectly horizontal, then the gravity vector of 32 feet per second per second isn't being applied at right angles to the path, but at a vector.

      So if you are shooting downhill at a 45 degree angle, then that 300 yards you mentioned must be multiplied by the sin of the downward (or upward, they are in fact interchangeable) angle which for 45 degrees is .707 in round terms, making the true horizontal distance traveled only 212 yards, so the fall is proportionatly reduced and the bullet will hit a wee bit higher than the 300 yards over level ground math would indicate. Just a very few inches at 300 yards depending on just how far your piece can reach out and touch someone, but a much larger difference will be seen at the longer ranges and at even higher angles from level.

      There are other effects to figure in, such as the distance for the air to slow it down remains at the line of site measured distance of 300 yards so the loss of velocity remains at the 300 yard figure. So does the effect of a crosswind in the drift.

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    17. Re:Frightening, ? by juhaz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Anatomically modern humans have been on the planet for AT LEAST 100000 years, possibly even double, and hominids for several million. That is clearly long enough time for foodchain to adapt to presence of humans, to a level that abruptly removing them from equation would cause huge changes.

      How did you think "animals clearly took care of themselves"? Herbivores decided that their population got too large and dropped dead? Well, Sherlock, they were killed, much more brutally, by other animals. Other large predators, be it wolves or cave lions or sabertooth tigers were dealing with the population problems of herbivores, we have diminished their number to so low as to be irrelevant in that role any more, and taken the place they previously inhabited as the top of the foodchain, which clearly includes keeping populations manageable as well.

  2. I guess by varmittang · · Score: 2, Funny

    I guess we will see some more Paris Hiltin porn very soon.

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    1. Re:I guess by ThreeE · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually no.

      You will hear a sonic boom anytime something travels faster than the speed of sound at your location. Typically, this means an aircraft must travel abut Mach 1.15 above you for you to hear the boom on the ground. An aircraft travelling Mach 1 will typically not produce a boom on the ground as the speed of sound is greater on the ground than it is at altitude. And, of course, anything travelling faster (i.e. Mach 4) will cause a boom as well.

      Back to our program.

    2. Re:I guess by ThreeE · · Score: 3, Interesting

      To add the parent's correct posting, sonic booms do occur subsonically local to the aircraft. The airflow is often accelerated to sonic levels as it travels over portions of the aircraft wings. This is actually one of the major causes of the "sonic barrier." These local sonic exceedences can screw with the lift, causing the aircraft to lose control.

      A gentleman by the name of Chuck knew this and said, "So what. It's worth the risk."

  3. Not wise... by lga · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article:

    We decided to quickly conclude the scan, given police activity in the area earlier in the day from a bomb scare.

    You too can get shot for looking like a terrorist!

    1. Re:Not wise... by pete6677 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For this reason, it would be an excellent idea to make the thing NOT look like a gun at all, even if it is unidirectional. People tend to get suspicious of strangers pointing gunlike objects around their neighborhood.

    2. Re:Not wise... by Eminence · · Score: 2
      • People tend to get suspicious of strangers pointing gunlike objects around their neighborhood.

      And for a very good reason. How probable it is that the thing that looks very much like a custom-built RPG launcher or high powered riffle is in fact a piece of harmless radio equipment? Just compare the number of Bluetooth and "traditional" riffles out there.

      So it was outright stupid to design it in this way, although arguably riffle design has it's advantages - it's probably the best, evolved over time, layout of a device that has to be long and its operator is supposed to point it accurately without a support (tripod etc.).

    3. Re:Not wise... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      DARWIN AWARD CANDIDATE 1: Hmm...I wonder if Airforce One has BlueTooth vulnerabilities.
      DARWIN AWARD CANDIDATE 2: Hey yeah! Get out your nifty BlueTooth detector thingie!

    4. Re:Not wise... by OverlordQ · · Score: 4, Informative

      Image of the gun. Imo somebody could easily mistake that for a homebrew silencer on the end.

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  4. Bluetooth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Snoop my Apple Bluetooth wireless mouse and switch the button (singular) to right-click.

  5. Bluetooth by SteelV · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It seems like Bluetooth is in almost EVERYTHING these days (the Power Book I recently ordered, my new cell phone, etc. all are enabled). Is this merely an extention of the ubiquitousness of the technology? Or is there some inherent flaw that makes Bluetooth vulnerable? I'm inclined to believe the former -- that a properly secured Bluetooth system would be safe -- but I don't know much about the technology.

    Any experts in the house (of course there are, we're on Slashdot!).

  6. The Jackal could have used it... by NightWulf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This way the secret service could have identified him, he's the guy with the annoying blue spotlight shining out of his ear while yelling "Can ya shoot her now?"

  7. See what they found by KinkifyTheNation · · Score: 5, Funny
    See what they found...
    You mean other than a dozen FBI agents bursting down their door?
  8. Uh Oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think the server just got headshot.

  9. The inherent Bluetooth flaw... by lxt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...is human curiosity. Yes, there are many dangers from snooping, and there have been recent reports of prototype Bluetooth viruses - but even upgraded and securer versions of the protocol won't stop the fact that you just won't be able to refuse opening that interesting looking picture somebody is trying to send you.

    I've seen it a lot at my school, whereby a particularly dodgy or deprecating picture (no goatse yet, but can't be long) is passed along in the lounges by somebody simply searching for Bluetooth phones and sending a pic, which simply can't be refused ("because it might be something important!!!"). I'd say it's even more tempting to accept a Bluetoothed file than an email attachment, because in Bluetooth you're only getting the bare information about a file (ie, the size of it and file type), whereas you can generally filter out automatically generated email viruses with ease...

    The solution is to turn Bluetooth off all the time except when you want to use it (something I do anyway, since it conserves battery power), but a surprisingly large number of people seem to have it on all the time.

  10. Happy hunting by k.ovaska · · Score: 5, Funny

    Site is dying. Now they're facing the real test: can you use a Bluetooth rifle against a Slashdot attack? There's one Slashdotter... another one... look, over there! But the battle is hopeless, most Slashdotters are secure in their parents' basement.

  11. ObMirrorDot by semaj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not even funny any more how fast these sites go down. It doesn't do the site owner or us any good - once again, what will it take for Slashdot to implement a mirror system?

    For example... this one.

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    1. Re:ObMirrorDot by baadger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wish mirrordot would cache linked pages. A depth of 1 within the same domain would do wonders.

  12. Re:Slashdotted by lmalmeida · · Score: 2, Informative

    Shouldn't that be http://www.tomsnetworking.com.nyud.net:8090/Sectio ns-article106-page2.php instead? And from here, I can't connect..

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  13. Yeah, especially since... by evolutionaryLawyer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They made the think look like a rifle with collapsing stock etc... A kid almost got killed outside detroit about a year ago for hanging around on a roof with a paintball gun.

    So let me get this straight, if you have your device always on and discoverable you are vulnerable? Jesus, I would never expect that. Next thing you know it will be dangerous to be connected to the web without a firewall installed.

    Bluetooth is nice, but the security measure do seem pretty weak, no minimum pin length etc.

  14. google cache by chevman · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:RUM0Y5_0xhEJ: www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article106.php+&hl =en&client=safari

  15. a better use by Sv-Manowar · · Score: 4, Funny

    how about instead of sniper rifles in a city, binoculars on a nudist beach ?

    why do the best inventions always need to be modified to be better.

  16. How to deal with that? by Eminence · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It's not a trivial question. On one hand airwaves are free for anyone to receive. On the other if someone would steal data from my BT enabled device and went to publish it on the web (Paris Hilton case) I would very much like to get him punished for that.

    In other words, users are generally right in their expectance of some form of protection of their privacy. You could argue that BT devices should have been built in a way that would prevent any of that from happening, but it's easy to criticize with hindsight. I think some line in the sand would have to be drawn on this one too, the problem is that it would be technologically ignorant lobbying-prone politicians who would do the drawing. It's enough to look at the case of good, old-fashioned radio scanners to foresee results.

    1. Re:How to deal with that? by cowboy76Spain · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is not a matter of hindsight. You can say that if you are talking of SMTP or something alike. When BT was developed, it should have known that allowing any device to connect to yours is a security risk. And it should have been known that 90% of the users won't RTFM if its device just works. So, by default, BT devices should have been set by default to connect only to known devices. Or, at least, the first time a customer uses it, he should be asked. The reason it was not done was probably it would make easier for John Doe to connect his devices without really knowing not even the most basic things about them, and to make people think that the technology was "easy to use" and "secure" ("if I do not need to do anything to keep my BT configured to be safe, then it must be safe, isn'it?")

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    2. Re:How to deal with that? by Eminence · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You are right, of course. However, I believe BT designers were not geeks and their thinking was not twisted enough. The were operating within the "very very local connections" mindset - I'm totally sure no one even considered the possibility of any sort of attack on such device coming from a mile away or so. BT was supposed to create the "PAN" or Personal Area Network - in other words to communicate within few feet.

      Now, I wonder if designers of the Zigbee would pay attention.

    3. Re:How to deal with that? by theLOUDroom · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I beg to differ. I can't agree with the view, that people who don't know how a thing technically works should not expect protection of their privacy, property or other reasonable rights.

      That's a REALLY silly idea.
      So I go out and buy a gun, and I bear no responsibility for what happens with it?
      How am *I* supposed to know that I shouldn't jerk the steering wheel to one side while doing 90 on the freeway?
      You mean I'm not supposed to reach inside the toaster and grab the bread with my bare hands?

      Maybe manufacturer or seller of the device should be bothered with "why it is broadcasting personal info", but certainly not the end user.

      The consumer should have gone out and read a product review. If they can't be bothered to do even the slightest research, they're asking for trouble and they need to learn that.


      The end user has a right to be technologically ignorant and still have his privacy protected.

      If you were actually arguing for a fundamental right to privacy, I'd agree with you, but you're not. You're arguing for some crazy restriction of others rights. One much, much worse than current cellphone laws.

      You have a really messed up view of what "rights" are:
      • Our society has agreed that this little chunk of wireless spectrum will be like a public sqaure, open to all. Sing, dance, play music, make deals, whatever.
      • All of a sudden some idiot comes along, yelling his private information for all to hear.
      • Now we're all supposed to stop paying any attenion to what happens in the square until he decides to stop being an idiot. He's using a precious, public resource unwisely, but rather than face the consequences of those actions and hopefully be improved as a result of them, we're supposed to loose a valuable resource.
      • Since it's now illegal to even tell this guy he's actively being an idiot, things will never get better.


      What's even better is that a non-idiot can take advantage of this new law to start what look to the other party like regular, consensual communications and then later claim they we're.

      If you really get into it, thinking like yours would actually destroy the whole damned internet, since it would no longer be safe to connect to public servers, as the server could later claim you "violated it's privacy".
      Never mind the fact that they obviously were actively making the information availible to anyone who wanted it, and have absolutely NO security measures in place, we're now supposed to be mind readers and guess whether they "really, really mean to".
      After all, what if I actually WANT to give you my phone number?
      How are you going to prove that in court when you piss me off later and claim I "stole" it?
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  17. Re:Slashdotted by darkonc · · Score: 3, Funny

    If I build the rifle, can I read their site by bluetooth?

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  18. I'm sorry, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...this is idiotic. Not their little invention (which is pretty slick), but their test on top of a skyscraper. Are you really that fucking stupid? A couple of guys with a sniper rifle sitting on top of a tall building is just asking for trouble. Probably doesn't even have a license for it. This is even more stupid than that guy who shined a laser into an airplane cockpit on more than one occasion. I've done some dumb things in my life, but Jesus Fucking Christ. Cops have killed people for less than that.

    1. Re:I'm sorry, but... by cgenman · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's LA. They'll probably just think he's looking for the freeway.

  19. I dont think Sniper Rifle is the correct term here by OverlordQ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really, they should of called it something besides a 'Sniper Rifle' I'm sure that'd go down well when the cops ask what you're doing.

    "Oh i'm just pointing my Bluetooth Sniper Rifle at that crowded building of . . ."

    *insert police beatdown here*

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  20. Re:is it just me? by C10H14N2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It would make interesting news if he tried this in, oh, say Washington, DC. He would been carried off the roof in a black rubber bag. I'm surprised downtown LA doesn't have better surveillance. However, I'm sure he'll be getting a visit from the FBI in 5..4..3...

    Crazy.

  21. No such thing as short range RF by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Informative

    This article shows that "short range" RF technologies such as bluetooth or RFID are only short range in the context of a particular transceiver. If someone wants to access an RF device from a greater distance, they need only build a high-gain antenna.

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    1. Re:No such thing as short range RF by C10H14N2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      True. Voyager 1 was on the order of 23 watts and the last signal was received from over 8 billion miles away. Meanwhile, agents on Proxima Centauri have already begun a global RFID inventory of Wal*Mart stores world-wide in preparation for the invasion. They should have the results sometime late summer 2013.

    2. Re:No such thing as short range RF by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 2, Informative

      No! RFID tags like those that Wal-Mart will be using are powered by the radio signal. It's not simply a matter of having enough antenna gain or a sensitive enough reciever - you need to produce enough power to activate the tag. It's hard enough to read them 3 inches away - and you need 64x more power to read them even two feet away. At 8ft, you need 1024x more power. Even a relatively low-power signal is now approaching the power range of a microwave oven.

      Remember, Bluetooth was designed to have 30+ foot range. You only need 16x more power - and a decent antenna gain - to increase that to 120ft - not a hard feat.

      Now, it *is* definately possible to 'snoop' on RFIDs being energized by another reader. That's why RFID credit cards would be a bad idea (and why current RF credit cards *aren't* RFID - they have two-factor authentication).

  22. updated link... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    www.tomsnetnotworking.com

  23. Re:is it just me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes it would. Actually it would be easier to buy a rifle

  24. Sunday Slashdotting by cheezus_es_lard · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know the Tom's Hardware web admin is sitting in a family room somewhere wondering why his pager keeps going off.... Sunday Slashdottings must be one of the most evil things inflictable on a person ;-)

  25. Re:Slashdotted by Misroi · · Score: 2, Funny

    readsite()
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    buildrifle();
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    readsite();
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    Report to slasdot? YES|NO

  26. for all you bluesnoopers.. by Keruo · · Score: 2, Funny

    if you snooped my slashdot login just now, I know you're within 30 meters

    you'll recognize me from my baseball bat and my tinfoil hat

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  27. *HEADSHOT* by HTL2001 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "slashdot" did 46723723346844684 damage to "innocent webserver" in 1 hit(s) with the "bluetooth sniper rifle"
    head: 46723723346844684
    body: 0
    arms: 0
    legs: 0

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  28. conneting to my phone by varmittang · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When connecting something to my phone, I have to enter a pin code. Like my PowerBook, I have to physically tell the phone to allow a contaction via bluetooth, then enter a pin code that the PB gives into the phone to have them conneted to eachother. I even had to enter a pin code into my phone when connecting my headset. So which providers just let anything connect via bluetooth, or am I still open to attack?

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  29. The courts have dealt with similar issues by evolutionaryLawyer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    True the airwaves are free and many times the courts have supported the rights of individuals to intercept open, unencrypted broadcasts. But the key is the unencrypted and the broadcast. Look at the old satelite dishes, you could latch on to most signals, but if they tried to scramble it then it was stealing.

    If it is encrypted, you cannot decrypt it, because it is obviously not yours. If it is not broadcast, i.e. you use RF to gain access to a system and gather information that is not being broadcast, in this case anything other than basic ID info, it is illegal.

    On the other hand, courts are also starting recognize leeching WiFi as theft as well, so who knows where this is gonna end up.

  30. Why make it look like a rifle? by Mal-2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If they had made this look like a telescope rather than a weapon, and mounted it on a tripod, they could have pointed it just about anywhere they wanted and nobody would have paid a whole lot of attention to them. The rifle-like appearance only served to make the device look much more dangerous than it was.

    There are times when the form factor of a rifle makes perfect sense (rifle stocks for cameras, for example), but many others where it just DOESN'T. This is one of the latter group.

    Mal-2

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    How is the Riemann zeta function like Trump rallies? Both have an endless number of trivial zeros.
    1. Re:Why make it look like a rifle? by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Either way someone will notice. If you looked out your window and saw a bunch of nerds with a telescope looking back at you, you'd be pissed that people were spying on you.

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    2. Re:Why make it look like a rifle? by Mal-2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You can pay a quarter to use public telescopes in many parks and public attractions, and have been able to for many years, so I don't think anyone is all that concerned about telescopes pointed at downtown buildings, even if it's from the roof of another building. Besides, if there's a significant altitude difference, it's going to be craptacular seeing anyhow, as ceilings and floors are going to limit the view into any single window tremendously.

      The whole point of this was that they are far enough away that you WON'T see them staring back at you if you look out the window. If they were that close, they wouldn't need equipment this elaborate in the first place.

      Mal-2

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  31. Re:Not wise... neither illicit by JimmehAH · · Score: 2, Informative
  32. Darwin Award Candidate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It doesn't seem very bright to build a rifle-shaped device, and then test it by aiming it from the top of a tall building.

    Let me guess, it's powered by a bunch of large batteries, conspicuously wired together in a military-style vest.

    1. Re:Darwin Award Candidate by antispam_ben · · Score: 2, Funny

      According to the Darwin Awards rules page, the candidate must be dead first - though I guess we can wait a few days and see what happens...

      Go ahead and fill out the rest of the form, Name, Date Of Birth and all, just leave blank date and time of death, and for the description of death just leave a few sentences of white space then write "while holding a home-built Blutetooth Sniper Rifle."

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  33. Professional look? by Columcille · · Score: 4, Funny

    While the early version was held together with tie-straps and rubber bands, this newest version has a much more professional look.

    Yes, the professional hit man look is exactly what I'm trying to have when I'm searching for vulnerable bluetooth devices.

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  34. Why a gun by golfsportila · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I understand that using a gun stock makes it look "cooler", but the article makes it seem like it wouldn't work if you didn't put it together in the same way. You really only have to buy the antenna and a connector for your card in your laptop to get it to work fine, its not as mobile as with the gumstick computer, but you could probably mount that gumstick computer on the side of the antenna if you really wanted something that mobile.

  35. A Darwin award in the making... by Hartree · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, indeed! Let's make something that looks like a heavy rifle with a scope on it. Then climb up on a skyscraper in downtown LA and start pointing it round at other buildings and pedestrians down on the street, etc.

    Double bonus points if Schwarzenegger or some other high profile politician is in town that day.

  36. Our antenna thingy by po8 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For a different take on the antenna "gun", check out our "Trackmaster 2000" 802.11/ATV rocket tracking antenna for the PSAS launch vehicle.

  37. Spelling mistake! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's supposed to be a Bluetooth snooper rifle! Heh!

  38. what's in a name by idlake · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Guys, don't be stupid. When you call something like this a "sniper rifle" or "bluetooth sniping", then politicians will have an easy time walking all over our civil liberties and banning anything other than government or Microsoft-approved hardware and software. Names like "sniping" and "wardriving" just make political rhetoric too easy.

    Call it a "security enforcement sensor" or a "privacy alert device" or "child protection wand" and politicians will have a much harder time banning it and throwing you in jail for using it.

    1. Re:what's in a name by Zakabog · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's actually a good idea. Here are some things with updated names:

      P2P, File sharing == Freedom sharing.
      Wardriving, warflying, warjogging == Access Point Liberation.
      Bluetooth Sniper Rifle == Terrorist Locator.

      I think if we called the thing a Terrorist Locator they'd sell it at Walmart, and my grandmother would buy 9 of them.

  39. what's in a shape? by idlake · · Score: 4, Funny

    I forgot to add: make any such device look like a gigantic Christian cross, not like a sniper rifle. People have a hard time banning crosses and you have a God-given right to point crosses anywhere you please. If it has a Bluetooth antenna at its tip, well, that's just an expression of your religious commitment to communicating with God and your fellow man.

    And, whatever you do, don't make it shaped like a 4ft dildo. With sniper rifles, at least the powerful gun lobby will stand behind you. When someone stands behind you while you are pointing a 4ft dildo off a rooftop, it's probably not to protect your civil liberties.

    1. Re:what's in a shape? by DrStrangeLoop · · Score: 3, Funny

      I forgot to add: make any such device look like a gigantic Christian cross, not like a sniper rifle

      nice, this will also give you a +3 modifier vs undead ;)

  40. I saw the words Paris Hilton and Sniper Rifle... by AndyChrist · · Score: 4, Funny

    Imagine my disappointment.

  41. Re:is it just me? by Jurph · · Score: 2, Funny

    Step 1: Assemble Bluetooth "sniper rifle" according to instructions
    Step 2: Remove Bluetooth antenna from assembly.
    Step 3: Buy real, working, sniper rifle.
    Step 4: Cram Bluetooth antenna up Parent Poster's ass.
    Step 5: Use actual gun to shoot people.

    (Step 5 void where prohibited by law.)

  42. More stealth, and something to not get shot over by BiggRanger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If I were going to build on of those I'd do it in something a little less conspicuous, say maybe a pair of binoculars. A good pair can do range calculations, etch the lenses with cross hairs. You're less likely to get shot at looking someone through binoculars than a high powered rifle thing.

  43. LOL by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 2, Funny

    AWP whore!

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  44. Re:is it just me? by aaronl · · Score: 2, Informative

    I would hope there wouldn't being legal ramafications. You can kill someone with most things out there, but why should you be responsible for someone else's actions? We're not even talking about someone that purposefully designed a weapon for concealment and quite good ranged kills here. This is just a good antenna that some guy decided to make look like a rifle.

    The shape isn't too bad since it's easy to hold and aim that way if you want it to be portable and quick to use. The problem with it is that it does look like a lethal weapon, and that makes using it dangerous. Would've been a better idea to set it up like a telescope on a tripod. Then you still get good portability, but a more stable base.

    It may be irresponsible to build a device intended to get you surreptitious access to others people's mistakely considered private data, but no more than that. Perhaps he'll catch some hell for designing an electronic surveillance/eavesdropping device, but I would hope not.

    Someone would have to go through some lenghts to make that fatal, too. You would definitely have to pump out a *lot* more power. You'd need a fair bit more than 115VAC@20A(=2300W, 2000W radiant) to saturate a target to lethal exposure at 200m. Your components would all have to be replaced to handle the higher power. You could screw up someone's eyes quick, maybe their bladder over a little time, mess with some guys testes, etc., without much trouble, but near term death isn't likely.

    Then again, anybody that can get their hands on a Magnetron can build a more dangerous version of this. Step one: buy a microwave oven. Step two: take it apart for the Magnetron.

  45. Dangerous game by Peaceful_Patriot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is it just me, or does it seem a little dangerous to be lurking on city rooftops with a very realistic looking rifle, pointing it at nearby buildings? It seems like a good way to find yourself surrounded by very real rifles that fire very real bullets and they are not aiming at your Bluetooth!

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  46. Re:I dont think Sniper Rifle is the correct term h by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How about a "snooper rifle"?

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  47. Re:Pedantry by xgamer04 · · Score: 2, Funny

    My digital headphones go to 1010.

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  48. Where do you go with a Bluetooth sniper rifle? by merikari · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Library tower? Obviously the sixth floor window in the Book Depository was already taken.

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  49. Re:WTF is the US geek fascination with guns? by YetAnotherAnonymousC · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think, among other things, that guns are one of the few modern machines that you can cheaply (depending on model) tinker with/maintain/etc that don't involve electronics, computers, etc. You can't even do nearly as much on cars anymore without having to deal with electronics. It can be refreshing to deal with springs, latches, etc.