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Ultimate RPG Gaming Table

Nyrath the nearly wise writes "RPGs like Dungeons and Dragons are traditionally played on a tabletop using miniatures. The problem is that the players are only supposed to see those parts of the map that they have explored. Gamemasters are reduced to drawing explored sections of the map on the playing surface with dry-erase markers or using cardboard tiles representing stretches of corridor. Some fellows have an expensive but elegant solution. They map out the playing area in a laptop using software such as Tabletop Mapper, which allows to game master to dynamically hide and reveal sections of the map. The laptop is attached to a 1600 lumen DLP projector mounted on the ceiling and projecting an image of the visible map onto the tabletop. The miniatures can then be moved on a dynamic map. The eye candy factor is vastly increased, gamemaster labor is reduced, and the players have more fun. The elegance is that this is an intuitive enhancement of the traditional gaming experience, instead of an unfamiliar new user interface to be mastered."

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  1. Table? by Anonymous+Crowhead · · Score: 5, Funny

    We played on the floor.

    1. Re:Table? by Clock+Nova · · Score: 5, Funny

      Luxury.

      We used to dream about playing on floor. We had to play on damp carpet on top of garbage heap.

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  2. but what about... by eobanb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    a DLP rear-projection system. Doesnt't that make a little more sense, in a way? Then you won't have shadows over everything from people's hands. It'd look a bit better overall anyway.

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    1. Re:but what about... by Josuah · · Score: 5, Funny

      The kicking feet might damage the projector under the table. Like when someone decides to die a dramatic death and act it out because they are being "in-character". Or all the boys are playing footsie with the one girl they managed to con into playing with them. Or the fans in the projector get gunked up with all the Cheetos that fall on the floor.

    2. Re:but what about... by Nyrath+the+nearly+wi · · Score: 5, Informative

      The trouble is that most projectors require a minmum distance of five feet between the lens and the screen. If the projector was on the floor, the tabletop would have to be five feet off the ground. And of course the closer the projector is to the tabletop, the smaller the image, which is the exact opposite of what you want.

      I suppose one could have the projector in the tabletop, bouncing the beam off a mirror on the floor, but now things are getting complicated.

      There are more details here and here

  3. A better way to do it? by DianeOfTheMoon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wouldn't a better way of doing this (though probably much more expensive) be to mount a projector in the bottom center of the table with a screen, so that reaching across it doesn't blank out the map?

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  4. Immediate Impression by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting
    [There are of course drawbacks.]

    1) Cost. The equipment and software necessary for this setup are beyond many gamers' means.

    The software isn't so bad, if it's the mentioned dunjinni package @ ~$40, but that projector is the backbreaker. Even lores projectors are a chunk of change. I know, as I've looked at them for a variety of causes, but just can't muster the green, yet.

    2) The task of scanning and editing printed maps is labor and skill intensive.

    My hope is that you could help me and any others that wish to use this technique by publishing this letter or similar instructions and by making high-resolution maps, which do not contain DM-only information, available for download.

    Ok, the map drawing/editing thingie doesn't strike me as bad, so long as you're a coder like me. I've already done a few simple applications which can paint hexes (so cartesian should be less difficult) any color and anywhere I like, I could even map brushes to create furniture or terrain. (the worst part would be shelling for the package I delveloped it in, which I have no intention of leaving it in, for what should be obvious reason.)

    Back in the day, though, for RPG's we didn't even use maps, but had the DM describe where we were and what we were to see. Kept it simple, so long as you remembered.

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  5. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your parents sure let you do a number on your basement. It'll be a shame when they kick you out.

  6. Miniatures? by cranos · · Score: 5, Funny

    The last time I played D&D we didn't need no stinking miniatures, just some paper, dice and a shit load of caffinated beverages.

    Imagination is a wonderful thing.

  7. Floor... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    We played on the floor.

    "Your party has left the linoleum plains and come to an area of deep pile shag ..."

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    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  8. Computer Graphics? by coopaq · · Score: 5, Funny
    projector mounted on the ceiling and projecting an image of the visible map onto the tabletop.

    Cool... so with the projector you also get realtime shadows!

    And the DM can have the Dragon's shadow show up via hand puppet gestures!

    Of course the Raging One Finger of Darnisus will probably be the most popular creature shadowed on the board.

  9. How about this... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 5, Interesting
    How about this...
    1. Take your projector, set it on the floor, pointing up.
    2. Put a clear glass table over it
    3. lightly grease the glass. You want to be able to see shapes through it.
    4. Think about laying another sheet of glass or clear plastic over the grease.

    Voila! You've got a rear-projection system you can set things on.

    If the grease is light enough, your gameboard will also be projected onto the ceiling.

    Variations on a theme:

    • Instead of grease, get a sheet of clear plastic and rub down one side of it with steel wool until it's thoroughly scratched. A little cleaner, and you won't get Crisco all over your notes and miniatures.
    • Point a webcam at the table, or the ceiling projection. Keep a visual record of moves. (Audio commentary might be neat, too.)
  10. Actually, front projection isn't so bad. by dlleigh · · Score: 5, Informative
    I've worked a lot with multi-user front-projection table displays (see here and here). People think that the shadowing caused by hands, etc. will be a big problem, but we've found that, in practice, it isn't. Many first-time users of our table believe that it is rear-projected, despite the bright projector hanging over their head.

    In fact, the shadowing can sometimes be an advantage since you can often see things projected on top of your hands, which would be blocked in the rear-projection case.